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Part of the reason they had such freedom is because Wonder Woman film was something that had never been done before. The TMNT have had five theatrical films. Their base personalities are ingrained in the public eye now. Not to mention that the film portrays the classic Wonder Woman known and loved by people for decades. It’s the pretty much the same Wonder Woman that people have seen since her inception. Yes, the character has evolved since Lynda Carter, but there is a consistency there that allows for her success. And am I saying that the only chances of success for the Turtles is mainting the status quo? Of course not, we need something new and different for them in film. However, I don’t think just simply adapting Mirage stories is going to be good enough. Last edited by Slap-Happy; 12-16-2017 at 04:16 AM. |
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12-16-2017, 04:11 AM | #42 | |
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I mean, hell, at this point... at least give that a chance to fail on its own right. If it does, at least they actually tried.
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12-16-2017, 04:22 AM | #43 | |
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You can get genuine pathos from these characters if you try. The closest we have gotten to that is the first movie, nearly 30 years ago. If a new movie can give me characters that I have an emotional connection to, it can do whatever it wants. If that means a complete Mirage adaptation then so be it, but the idea of Mirage being the franchise’s only saving grace is flawed. |
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12-16-2017, 04:48 AM | #44 | |
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Worries about "wh-wh-what about the Fred Wolf fans that want a metric ton of mutants and Beebop?" shouldn't even factor into the equation. They didn't even show up for the last movie anyway, which was made for them.
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12-16-2017, 05:35 AM | #45 |
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Seeing how Bebop and Rocksteady weren't really relevant from 1994 to 2013 (and how they're more or less back to irrelevance at the moment, due to the canning of the Nick show and their removal from IDW's main story), I'd say it's kind of odd how that was ever a concern.
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12-16-2017, 08:48 AM | #46 |
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If we're going big, its gonna be big.
Three different visions of how it could happen: First Vision: Live action with PD quality CGI, but mirage style aesthetics. I am imagining in the style of Logan or maybe Sin City. With B/W Bluray DVD edition release. Seriously, this would be an awesome way to set off ... a legit universe Where different animated/comic counterparts of TMNT ... become a live action movie. Second Vision: Extension of Turtle's forever version of 2D Mirage TMNT. Personally, I like the aesthetic of the animation and I would mind seeing a full adaptation of the Mirage Comics in that style. Third Vision: You know what would be amazing. An adaptation of the first comic.... with different aesthetics. Kind of like an anniversary "series". Since we got Things Change, I will exclude 2k3 Turtles. But wouldn't it be awesome to see the FW Turtles and the Nick Turtles... go through the story of the Mirage comics (just issue #1). What if we got it in the PD Turtles, Imagi Series, etc. If not that, I'd like to see the First Movie Jim Henson Turtles - reimagined into CGI style and with a really close adaptation. |
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Barron recognized the early Mirage issues as perfect storyboards. It's a shame no other filmmaker has. |
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12-20-2017, 12:35 PM | #48 |
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frankly speaking.
I see the mirage comics being more of like the visual comic "movie", kind of movies. Similar to the smash up game had, or even the 2012 TMNT series cross over. That would keep the gritty tone, atmosphere, and black and white art style. A big budget movie with CGI and actors - I think should remain as an evolution of TMNT |
12-20-2017, 03:23 PM | #49 |
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I say just do it. No excuses. Just make a full animated Mirage issue 1 movie as an anniversary special or something. If you attach TMNT to the title, they will watch. Gather news and hype that 'whaaat?? This isn't the Cowabunga pizza eaters?' and people will watch out of curiosity alone.
We all loved campy Batman back then and noone would have complained if they made a camp Batman movie sequel back in 88. But instead Burton decided to take a more serious route. But can Batman be taken seriously? Will this non-Adam West Batman succeed?? Burton said '**** it' and just made it and here we are, who cares if the Camp Batman surfing Joker fans would love it or not. Someone needs to say '**** it' and just make an animated Mirage movie and see what happens.
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12-20-2017, 03:43 PM | #51 | |
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Plus, its not like Mirage is so distant off till the point where casual tmnt fans wont recognize anything about it.
Most of the basic points about the tmnt will still be present in an issue 1 adaptation. 1. The turtles are mutant ninjas who live in New York and have to hide in the shadows? Check 2. Splinter is their sensei and has japanese roots? Check 3. Their enemies are the Foot Clan, led by the Shredder? Check The only things people would be slightly off put by is maybe No April but she appears later on in issue 2 of Mirage anyway. The Gritty tone won't be polarizing in my opinion.
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Casual fans might be confused when they see the TMNT actually behaving as ninja. That's OK.
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12-20-2017, 04:14 PM | #53 |
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considering that the Nick Turtles are 10x more ninja then the Mirage Turtles, casual fans that didn't stop with the Turtles post 90's shouldn't be too confused about the Turtles ninja-ing.
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Real Ninja, Ninja Turtles. LOL
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I love the Mirage-series, but there is only one issue I really-really-really want to see in a pitch perfect live action or animated adaptation: the Leonardo micro. Christmas preparations included and the action scenes in great samurai movie style.
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