The Flash tv series on CW

[Andrew NDB]

Wally and Diggle also:

https://tvline.com/2023/01/03/the-fl...un8hRhZRpvAE08

Also one of the dumbest villains yet, Bloodwork. And I guess the villain is a gender-swapped Red Death. So far all of the female big bads they've rolled out have been abysmally terrible and I wouldn't expect this to be an exception.

[Vegita-San]

the first gender swap was mirror master. could have been a fun villain, but turned into 'man stole everything, now revenge' standard. ugh.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

the first gender swap was mirror master. could have been a fun villain, but turned into 'man stole everything, now revenge' standard. ugh.

Exactly. Warping Flash villains to suit the writers' revenge fantasies on the patriarchy.

[Andrew NDB]

OK, I'm watching the next few episodes. Huh. This stuff with Ronnie Raymond and Deathstorm is actually pretty interesting. The emotional hook with Caitlin is the first time I've felt anything for the character in many seasons. And they're actually making good use of her and Frost.

Is this some setting up of a Green Lantern-less Blackest Night event?

Wow, Cecile is really bad in this.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh god, an actual line of dialogue from season 8, episode 17:

"Man, Allegra really showed some Janeway, AOC-type leadership last night!" Of the AOC lookalike.

Shesus, man...

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Wow, Cecile is really bad in this.

THey have no idea what to do with the character. she was there too give joe an arc. then they thought people liked her, so they kept her around. first she was supposed to have temp powers, then the powers stuck around...now I don't know what is goin on.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

THey have no idea what to do with the character. she was there too give joe an arc. then they thought people liked her, so they kept her around. first she was supposed to have temp powers, then the powers stuck around...now I don't know what is goin on.

She's like a superhero patrolling now. But they're just making it up as they go and nothing about her remotely is working.

Also, it's a little creepy they never show this baby her and Joe just had. Like ever, anymore. It's like this inconvenient thing for them to even so much as bring up.

[ZariusTwo]

There were plans to have a finale to Legends of Tomorrow in the season but they had to scrap them due to low episode count

https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2023/02/...the-the-flash/

[Andrew NDB]

https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/the...gs.0c2c.p3ud0b

Grant Gustin is "Ready for it to be over."

https://movieweb.com/grant-gustin-goodbye-to-the-flash/

Good. So am I.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

There were plans to have a finale to Legends of Tomorrow in the season but they had to scrap them due to low episode count

https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2023/02/...the-the-flash/

Good. Doesn't deserve one. That was a show that hadn't managed to not be all-out terrible for quite a few seasons.

[Andrew NDB]

Episode 2 of the new/final season should be taught as a writer's class as to what not to do. Egads. So horrible. So boring. Like something buddies might churn out if given the chance in the 10th grade.

[Autbot_Benz]

They really had Batwoman Red Death do the Kevin Conroy I am Vengeance I am The Night line. That really pissed me off .

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

They really had Batwoman Red Death do the Kevin Conroy I am Vengeance I am The Night line. That really pissed me off .

To borrow a line from Codenamesuper, somebody tell her "you ain't him."

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

They really had Batwoman Red Death do the Kevin Conroy I am Vengeance I am The Night line. That really pissed me off .

Batwoman Red Death also did the Keaton you wanna get nuts come on lets get nuts line

Her Iron Man suit up moment was kinda cool

[ZariusTwo]

The series is in the can

https://movieweb.com/the-flash-cw-wraps-forever/

[Andrew NDB]

Trudging on with this season. They really want to burn episodes of the final season with Caitlin struggling with her identity again, now with a third identity? What a bunch of bullsh**. These writers can't even do arcs anymore, just swap in new characters and play with identity crises. And where is the recast Ralph Dibney? We're OK with just trashing a season and a half worth of development?

More awful female villains, empty speechifying and wheels spinning. This is just the worst.

[Autbot_Benz]

early trailer for Amell's return

[ZariusTwo]

Well, the show is over.

Had an open ending though, with Barry choosing three new Speedsters

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

with Barry choosing three new Speedsters

Of course he did. Ugh...

[Vegita-San]

if it was totally random, how did he know their names?

the berlanti verse had great casting, poor writing and execution.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

the berlanti verse had great casting, poor writing and execution.

It's had great or at least very compelling writing at times. They just can't maintain it past two or three seasons, ever. It's like they'll take things seriously for a little while, then the good writers start hopping to new shows and then they start inviting the women writers with the one side of the head shaved types (or the feminine male equivalent) into the writer's room and then everything turns to poo.

For Flash in particular, I think we could almost trace the remarkable drop in quality to when showrunner Andrew Kreisberg was fired in 2017 for #metoo stuff. Unfortunately. Apparently he had been weeding the crap out of the writer's room pretty well.



Grant Gustin explaining why he ended the Flash. Um. It was him, huh? Not the flatlining ratings?