Pattinson/Reeves Batman Movie (Formerly Affleck Stand-Alone Film)

[AquaParade]

I honestly would not mind if the MCU explained Don Cheadle taking over for Terrance Howard as a "rift in the universe". I don't care how dumb it is, Pandora's Box has been opened and re-casting is a bitch on my suspension of disbelief.
And it isn't worse than them retroactively claiming Peter Parker is the small boy w/ the Iron Man helmet in Iron Man 2, so the bar has been set.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I honestly would not mind if the MCU explained Don Cheadle taking over for Terrance Howard as a "rift in the universe". I don't care how dumb it is, Pandora's Box has been opened and re-casting is a bitch on my suspension of disbelief.
And it isn't worse than them retroactively claiming Peter Parker is the small boy w/ the Iron Man helmet in Iron Man 2, so the bar has been set.

They intentionally address it in a one off line of dialog in the Iron Man 2 court scene. Tony makes a quip and Cheadle replies "I'm here, it's done, get over it". It's a reply to Tony's surprise in-story but it's also meant as a wink to the audience.

[MikeandRaph87]

It reads like The Holiday Killer is The Riddler in this film. I don't know how to feel about it because I like Riddler not being a killer.
https://gamerant.com/the-batman-ridd...ac-killer/amp/

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

It reads like The Holiday Killer is The Riddler in this film. I don't know how to feel about it because I like Riddler not being a killer.
https://gamerant.com/the-batman-ridd...ac-killer/amp/

Didn't Batman: Hush have Ridder be a killer also?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Didn't Batman: Hush have Ridder be a killer also?

He was a behind-the-scenes mastermind in Hush.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by IMJ

He was a behind-the-scenes mastermind in Hush.

I meant the animated adaptation, where he WAS Hush

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I meant the animated adaptation, where he WAS Hush

Ohhhh.....
Yeah. That.

[Leo656]

Modern-day writers have more or less openly admitted that while they like the name "Riddler" and the question mark motif insofar as a gimmick, they can't figure out how to tell stories with him or make him a compelling character without turning him into Jigsaw from the "Saw" movies. That's where he is, there's no going back. "Classic Coke" Riddler is extinct.

I think it's bullsh*t, it's lazy, it's hack-ish, and as I've said a million times "If you change everything about a character except the name, it's NOT the same character anymore". But hey, not my circus, not my monkeys.

"Just make up your own sh*t and slap a familiar label on it to make a few more bucks" is what passes for "creativity" nowadays. It is what it is.

[AquaParade]

I'm so damn excited for this movie. As far as another "grounded" take goes, I'm loving the look and feel of this film.

That said, I'm also sort of ready to lean back into the more fantasy and gothic-like aspects of the franchise. I wouldn't mind a film inspired by Morrison's Arkham Asylum, at least in the way it is a bit gothic, cerebral, and a bit heightened in terms of reality.

An Alex Proyas-Batman film could have been really great during his peak. I'm thinking of the vibe he captured in Dark City. Sure, it wouldn't work for everyone - That's because it is interesting.

[ZariusTwo]

You can't make s*it like this up

Catwoman Zoe Kravitz will make her directorial debut in "Pussy Island"

https://deadline.com/2021/06/zoe-kra...ge-1234775409/

[Sumac]

Wow! So empowering! Much Feminism!

I wonder how come that women who technically should be aware of what Feminism is, manage to made it a laughingstock and essentially play of role of handmaidens to men?

[ZariusTwo]

Reshoots are underway

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batma...5802#gs.3wac4k

[ZariusTwo]

A leaked hype package

https://streamable.com/ve0oum

[AquaParade]

"I have no clue what I’m going to do," Gunn said. "For me, Guardians 3 is probably the last one. I don’t know about doing it again. I do find, because of the ability to do different stuff in the DC multiverse, it’s fun. They’re starting to really resemble their comic books. The Marvel Universe has always been a little more cohesive, and DC has always had more great single runs. They had The Dark Knight Returns. They had Watchmen. They had The Killing Joke. They had Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing. The fact that they did Joker, which is a totally different type of movie, that to me is cool. I’m very excited about Matt’s movie [Matt Reeves' The Batman]. They’re getting some really good filmmakers involved. They’re always going to be hit or miss — I just don’t want them to get boring."

Totally agree with James Gunn on all the above. I know it's not a popular opinion around here, but I'm loving the difference in approach between DC and Marvel movies of late, and it is quite true to the source material from this perspective.

That's why I chuckle when people get all up in arms about Batman or whoever being different from the comics version. Staying true to the comics version is an impossibility when the most beloved versions are all radically different interpretations from each other. It's like that old line "the only constant is change."

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

Totally agree with James Gunn on all the above. I know it's not a popular opinion around here, but I'm loving the difference in approach between DC and Marvel movies of late, and it is quite true to the source material from this perspective.

That's why I chuckle when people get all up in arms about Batman or whoever being different from the comics version. Staying true to the comics version is an impossibility when the most beloved versions are all radically different interpretations from each other. It's like that old line "the only constant is change."

Not only this but no one ever seems to bring up or talk about the Batman comics from 1939, the 40s, 50s, or 60s. Like the only aspect from his earliest issues that some may bring up is how he used to kill ("A fitting end to his kind"). His stories after those decades like Dark Knight Returns, Killing Joke, etc are all fans ever talk about.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Not only this but no one ever seems to bring up or talk about the Batman comics from 1939, the 40s, 50s, or 60s. Like the only aspect from his earliest issues that some may bring up is how he used to kill ("A fitting end to his kind"). His stories after those decades like Dark Knight Returns, Killing Joke, etc are all fans ever talk about.

Golden Age and many Silver Age comics are a real slog in the mud to get through when reading them, man. There were a lot of concepts introduced in those periods (obviously) that had merit and clearly survived 90 years of publishing, but the majority of it was conceptual and not really narratively captivating or executed well.

Golden age and a lot of the Silver age creativity was conceptually brilliant but low-level in execution. There are obviously a few earlier exceptions, but generally speaking it was the Bronze Age material that really gave a wider breadth to captivating story telling in execution.

[The Deadman]

Years after people flipped out over Ben Affleck being cast as Batman, the neckbeards on Twitter now want the standalone movie he walked away from director, writer and whatever else from

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Make...ertical=trends

[sdp]

Those are the same neckbeards that gave us the Snyder cut of JL, are fighting for the #ayercut of Suicide Squad and generally understand the characters better than DC. Based neckbeards

[ZariusTwo]

Poor timing seeing as DC are currently trying to phase Bruce out of the comics entirely

Originally Posted by sdp

Those are the same neckbeards that gave us the Snyder cut of JL, are fighting for the #ayercut of Suicide Squad and generally understand the characters better than DC. Based neckbeards

DC heroes are not edgelords and the general audience do not think of them as such. That was very much the cause for Didio's downfall at DC as well. Snyder's vision is unique and works in it's own world, but it should not be the standard bearer for the whole line.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by sdp

Those are the same neckbeards that gave us the Snyder cut of JL, are fighting for the #ayercut of Suicide Squad and generally understand the characters better than DC. Based neckbeards

i'm pointing out the hypocrisy in what these fans on social media are doing. They hated Ben Affleck as Batman so much that he drove himself into depression....now they want him back? It doesn't work that way.