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*Cowabung-Gal* · 02-28-2023, 10:46 AM

Guess who will be at Little Rock Comic Con?

William Shatner himself.

I made the mistake of not meeting Kevin Conroy before his death. I ain’t making the same mistake with Shatner. We’ll have to get there EARLY though. The line will definitely be crazy.

P.S. We did in fact stand in line for 275 minutes to meet Kevin Eastman.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-28-2023, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Guess who will be at Little Rock Comic Con?

William Shatner himself.

I saw him like 12 years ago.

He's always sitting and he always smells a little of booze.

*Cowabung-Gal* · 02-28-2023, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

he always smells a little of booze.

Better than smelling like weed, which a lot of comics customers tend to smell like.

*oldmanwinters* · 02-28-2023, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

He's always sitting and he always smells a little of booze.

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Better than smelling like weed, which a lot of comics customers tend to smell like.

ROTFL!

**Jester** · 02-28-2023, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Guess who will be at Little Rock Comic Con?

William Shatner himself.

I made the mistake of not meeting Kevin Conroy before his death. I ain’t making the same mistake with Shatner. We’ll have to get there EARLY though. The line will definitely be crazy.

https://resizing.flixster.com/C9uRgD...21_e_v8_aa.jpg

P.S. We did in fact stand in line for 275 minutes to meet Kevin Eastman.

Part of the reason I went to the Little Rock Anime Fest to meet Rob Paulsen earlier this month. I regret not going to see Kevin Conroy before he he passed.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-28-2023, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

"Ben Sisko's non-linear, non-binary arc in Deep Space Nine's 'Emissary' saved all my lives":

https://www.tor.com/2023/02/28/ben-s...TCvNlidFGZQoKQ

Is this satire or for real?
In a *CURRENT YEAR 2023* I can't tell anymore.

*CyberCubed* · 02-28-2023, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I saw him like 12 years ago.

https://i.ibb.co/mcFvFHL/bill.jpg

He's always sitting and he always smells a little of booze.

I'm surprise how young you look there, even if it is 12 years ago. You could pass for a college aged student here. I know you're 40+ so you were about 30 here I assume?

*IMJ* · 02-28-2023, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I saw him like 12 years ago.

https://i.ibb.co/mcFvFHL/bill.jpg

He's always sitting and he always smells a little of booze.

He's like the next Stan Lee. Even right now he's does these things out of his own desire at least, but who knows - anymore from the next convention season to any point in the future they could be wheeling him out and propping him up in a chair.

The booze thing was hysterical though..

*Roseangelo* · 03-01-2023, 02:13 PM

I saw Shatner at Comic-Con last year. He did a private signing off-site that you had to pre-register for. It was a simple but very nice little event. You were still herded through the line like cattle to get your autograph and/or picture (and there was a 10" plexiglass barrier between us because Covid...

), but it was quiet and I was able to linger a little bit in the back of the room to put my stuff away proper and chat with other fans.

He's definitely worth the price if you have the opportunity.

~~AquaParade~~ · 03-01-2023, 03:46 PM

Meet-and-greet with plexiglass is some of the funniest crap of our lifetime.

I'm being a little facetious. I'm sure it can still be an enjoyable experience. But you can't look at the situation and not just...

*Andrew NDB* · 04-15-2023, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Meet-and-greet with plexiglass is some of the funniest crap of our lifetime.

I'm being a little facetious. I'm sure it can still be an enjoyable experience. But you can't look at the situation and not just...

I would never agree to meet a celebrity through plexiglass. That is ridiculous.

Look, The Mary Sue did a ranking of the best captains. Of course Kirk is #9 and even Geordi's mom (and Burnham of course) rank higher:

https://www.themarysue.com/best-star...ptains-ranked/

*CyberCubed* · 04-15-2023, 06:16 PM

To get back to the title of this thread, I think if you didn't grow up or get into it during the 90's I can see why the younger generation isn't into Star Trek.
After the original series, Star Trek peaked from 1987-2000 when Next Gen, Deep Space Nine and Voyager were all airing. Enterprise didn't do as well and by then a lot of fans were also feeling franchise fatigue.

Anyone who grew up in the 2000's is now in their early 20's, and they would have grown up with Star Trek being completely absent from the mainstream media. So if you were say 5 years old in 2005, you would not be into Star Trek and by the time you became a teen there would be nothing to watch. The 2009 movie did bring in some casual fans but I think they just watched the first movie or two and then dipped.

I don't know if Discovery brought in many new fans or not, but it's pretty obvious Star Trek had its second peak in the 90's and if you didn't grow up in that era it's not going to catch on with you. Even now Picard, Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks/Prodigy are all aimed at older fans who knows these characters or references than any new fans.

Star Trek is probably irrelevant to 2000's kids.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-15-2023, 07:30 PM

If Discuckery brought in any new fans it would be the wrong kind.

rav4ge · 04-16-2023, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

To get back to the title of this thread, I think if you didn't grow up or get into it during the 90's I can see why the younger generation isn't into Star Trek.
After the original series, Star Trek peaked from 1987-2000 when Next Gen, Deep Space Nine and Voyager were all airing. Enterprise didn't do as well and by then a lot of fans were also feeling franchise fatigue.

...

Star Trek is probably irrelevant to 2000's kids.

Yup. Can confirm. Growing up, we millennials recognized Star Trek's prestige, but the franchise was relatively inaccessible to us in its various forms. If you were lucky, maybe an older family member or friend would introduce you to the series and catch you up with DVRs or the movies. Thankfully, streaming has changed all that, and I'm trying to get into it now, but I think it's safe to say we largely missed the boat as a generation.

*CyberCubed* · 04-16-2023, 12:55 PM

Yeah, I can definitely see why Star Trek is irrelevant to anyone born after the year 2000. It was absent on TV all those years too (technically it still is since it's on streaming) and from 2005+ onward it was dead besides the occasional movie.

Star Trek probably struggles to bring in new fans at this point, which is why all the new shows feel like legacy shows now focusing on the past characters.

tokki.kier · 04-19-2023, 10:23 PM

I'm a big fan of TOS and the films, and the NuTrek films. It was after seeing the 2009 film that I went back and watched the series. I've seen a bit of Next Gen and Discovery, but nothing has grabbed me so much as the original. I even named my old cat Tiberius.

Hamato Yoshi · 04-20-2023, 04:15 PM

Dont buy from Hollywood Show , they sell fake autographs : Meriwethers on ebay are autopenned junk and Stan Lee funko fake too

HS is doing a con with Shatner

*Andrew NDB* · 01-10-2024, 10:21 AM

*triplexxx* · 01-11-2024, 12:30 PM

At Fan Expo a couple months back, Barry Gordon told me he likes Wars a little more than Trek, despite being cast in Trek. Maurice LaMarche told me he preferred Trek a little more; he liked the old Wars stuff from the 1970s-1980s, but didn't care for the newer stuff and didn't like when they killed off the classic characters.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-11-2024, 12:45 PM

Things to like about modern Star Trek since 2005:

* Leonard Nimoy's part in ST 2009.
* Star Trek: Picard season 3.

And no, Strange New Worlds is utter crap, with a fanfic-like group of characters (a Khan descendant on the bridge who kept the last name? Uhura years before she's supposed to be there? a eugenics superwoman first officer? singing and dancing Spock with a wife he shouldn't be spending any time with since TOS said they hadn't seen each other since they were kids?) none of which are played as competent Starfleet officers with all of it written by a group of CW writers who've never written any sci-fi.

Things to like about modern Star Wars since 2012:

* Star Wars: Rogue One. Arguably.
* Star Wars: Rebels.
* The Mandalorian.
* The final slew of Star Wars: Clone Wars.
* Star Wars: Ahsoka.
* Star Wars: Obi-Wan (I guess? Mostly?).
* Star Wars: Andor (I still haven't seen it beyond the first episode but I still see a lot of people saying they dig it).

So yeah, I guess Star Wars, in spite of some real crap is still in way, way better condition than where Star Trek is right now.

02-28-2023, 10:46 AM	#101
Cowabung-Gal The Party Dudette Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: U-S-A!! Posts: 2,216	Guess who will be at Little Rock Comic Con? William Shatner himself. I made the mistake of not meeting Kevin Conroy before his death. I ain’t making the same mistake with Shatner. We’ll have to get there EARLY though. The line will definitely be crazy. P.S. We did in fact stand in line for 275 minutes to meet Kevin Eastman. __________________ Totally Interstellar

03-01-2023, 02:13 PM	#109
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 8,982	I saw Shatner at Comic-Con last year. He did a private signing off-site that you had to pre-register for. It was a simple but very nice little event. You were still herded through the line like cattle to get your autograph and/or picture (and there was a 10" plexiglass barrier between us because Covid... ), but it was quiet and I was able to linger a little bit in the back of the room to put my stuff away proper and chat with other fans. He's definitely worth the price if you have the opportunity. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

03-01-2023, 03:46 PM	#110
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Meet-and-greet with plexiglass is some of the funniest crap of our lifetime. I'm being a little facetious. I'm sure it can still be an enjoyable experience. But you can't look at the situation and not just... Last edited by AquaParade; 03-01-2023 at 03:53 PM.

04-15-2023, 07:30 PM	#113
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,345	If Discuckery brought in any new fans it would be the wrong kind. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

01-10-2024, 10:21 AM	#118
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04-15-2023, 06:16 PM	#112
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,112	To get back to the title of this thread, I think if you didn't grow up or get into it during the 90's I can see why the younger generation isn't into Star Trek. After the original series, Star Trek peaked from 1987-2000 when Next Gen, Deep Space Nine and Voyager were all airing. Enterprise didn't do as well and by then a lot of fans were also feeling franchise fatigue. Anyone who grew up in the 2000's is now in their early 20's, and they would have grown up with Star Trek being completely absent from the mainstream media. So if you were say 5 years old in 2005, you would not be into Star Trek and by the time you became a teen there would be nothing to watch. The 2009 movie did bring in some casual fans but I think they just watched the first movie or two and then dipped. I don't know if Discovery brought in many new fans or not, but it's pretty obvious Star Trek had its second peak in the 90's and if you didn't grow up in that era it's not going to catch on with you. Even now Picard, Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks/Prodigy are all aimed at older fans who knows these characters or references than any new fans. Star Trek is probably irrelevant to 2000's kids.

04-16-2023, 12:55 PM	#115
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,112	Yeah, I can definitely see why Star Trek is irrelevant to anyone born after the year 2000. It was absent on TV all those years too (technically it still is since it's on streaming) and from 2005+ onward it was dead besides the occasional movie. Star Trek probably struggles to bring in new fans at this point, which is why all the new shows feel like legacy shows now focusing on the past characters.

04-19-2023, 10:23 PM	#116
tokki.kier Mouser Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: TX, USA Posts: 5	I'm a big fan of TOS and the films, and the NuTrek films. It was after seeing the 2009 film that I went back and watched the series. I've seen a bit of Next Gen and Discovery, but nothing has grabbed me so much as the original. I even named my old cat Tiberius.

04-20-2023, 04:15 PM	#117
Hamato Yoshi Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 931	Dont buy from Hollywood Show , they sell fake autographs : Meriwethers on ebay are autopenned junk and Stan Lee funko fake too HS is doing a con with Shatner

01-11-2024, 12:30 PM	#119
triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,599	At Fan Expo a couple months back, Barry Gordon told me he likes Wars a little more than Trek, despite being cast in Trek. Maurice LaMarche told me he preferred Trek a little more; he liked the old Wars stuff from the 1970s-1980s, but didn't care for the newer stuff and didn't like when they killed off the classic characters. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

01-11-2024, 12:45 PM	#120
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,345	Things to like about modern Star Trek since 2005: * Leonard Nimoy's part in ST 2009. * Star Trek: Picard season 3. And no, Strange New Worlds is utter crap, with a fanfic-like group of characters (a Khan descendant on the bridge who kept the last name? Uhura years before she's supposed to be there? a eugenics superwoman first officer? singing and dancing Spock with a wife he shouldn't be spending any time with since TOS said they hadn't seen each other since they were kids?) none of which are played as competent Starfleet officers with all of it written by a group of CW writers who've never written any sci-fi. Things to like about modern Star Wars since 2012: * Star Wars: Rogue One. Arguably. * Star Wars: Rebels. * The Mandalorian. * The final slew of Star Wars: Clone Wars. * Star Wars: Ahsoka. * Star Wars: Obi-Wan (I guess? Mostly?). * Star Wars: Andor (I still haven't seen it beyond the first episode but I still see a lot of people saying they dig it). So yeah, I guess Star Wars, in spite of some real crap is still in way, way better condition than where Star Trek is right now. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]