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*Candy Kappa* · 06-26-2010, 03:45 PM

saying you hate CGI covers a lot of stuff, more then just animated films. Most Hollywood movies got CGI in them one way or the other, everything from crowds to extra landscape.
many movies got CGI you wouldn't at first glance notice.

like the entire scene from matrix reloaded, where trinity falls from the window, 100% CGI even the actor is replaced with a 3d model.

*Sage Ninja* · 06-26-2010, 05:44 PM

I understand that. But i also eleborated on how I mostly dislike fully animated CGI movies with a few execptions.

*Candy Kappa* · 06-26-2010, 07:21 PM

I see many CGI movies copying a mix of Pixar and Dreamworks human design, which they often don't get quite right, seen it in some indie films as well.

but that particular style is easy to animate, and might also be based off a animator rigg called Lowmax and MAX.

A link whit some lip sync made by a guy I know, he's a amazing 3D artist, and are top in class. he even excel the teachers, and make 3D characters so real it's awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_o1YKxK6zM

Dragon Turtle · 06-26-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

I see many CGI movies copying a mix of Pixar and Dreamworks human design, which they often don't get quite right, seen it in some indie films as well.

I believe it has more to do with many animators being influenced by the designs of older animators and cartoonists such as Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, ect.

Those who are impressed by the Dante game trailer should check Blur Studios other works especially their Star Wars cinematic trailers.

*Redeemer* · 06-26-2010, 11:28 PM

Hey Has Bay even said what direction they are going with the reboot?

*Krutch* · 06-27-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Clearly. TMNT Part 4 was a critical flop and a (deservedly) financial letdown.

You'll never see another full-on TMNT CGI movie. Ever.

I wouldn't say never. CGI wasnt TMNTs problem, it was pretty much everything else. And the future is a very very long time. If the turtles survive long enough, I'm pretty sure someone out there will give it another go. Plus, there's a chance that the CGI turtle series comin out might do some direct to DVD movie.

*Brodie* · 06-27-2010, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

Hey Has Bay even said what direction they are going with the reboot?

No. This is because Bay ISNT in charge of the movie, but rather his production company.

Someone change the title of the ****ing thread.

*Candy Kappa* · 06-27-2010, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle

I believe it has more to do with many animators being influenced by the designs of older animators and cartoonists such as Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, ect.

with many newer 3d movies it doesn't feel like that

TheShowstoppa · 06-27-2010, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

No. This is because Bay ISNT in charge of the movie, but rather his production company.

Someone change the title of the ****ing thread.

I'm so glad someone else agrees with me finally.

Dragon Turtle · 06-27-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

with many newer 3d movies it doesn't feel like that

I believe most seem to be influenced by the need to display some exaggerated caricature, which seems popular with many animators, as well as being clean and simplified for animation purposes.

*Sage Ninja* · 06-27-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle

I believe most seem to be influenced by the need to display some exaggerated caricature, which seems popular with many animators, as well as being clean and simplified for animation purposes.

except that they look like ass even more so in CGI form than in hand drawn form.

*The Stryker* · 06-27-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

except that they look like ass even more so in CGI form than in hand drawn form.

Opinion. I liked the designs in the CG movie over some of the stuff in the live action movies and especially anything in the 2k3 show.

Shellsweet · 06-29-2010, 12:32 PM

ok, Well, Live Action Turtles, There's something about it that works with that incredibly well.

But CGI is especially hard on the Turtles, I think so anyways, Only because I can only imagine in any style, it will still make the turtles look awkard, It's especially the faces, and especially since they were trying to keep the "Mirage comic" Style to it.
Which is why from what I herd that Nick is going to do a Computer animated TMNT series, and that I'm not look too forward to because of that reason.

(And their Computer Animated series arent that...good. But their 2d shows are great! like Wolverine and the X-men and Avatar: The Last Airbender, which I hope they will change their minds to switch to 2d cuz it works well with the turtles better)

So, 2d you can DEFENITLY get away with. But computer animation makes it a little harder.

But to defend 07, I did like the character designs a lot, it was an interesting style.

But live action still owns. But 2d would be nice too, in my opinion, even though if they're going to make a movie like that I'm sure it'd just go straight to DVD. :/

I mean, Even Disney is straying away from 2d and doing computer animated movies.

*The Stryker* · 06-29-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shellsweet

But CGI is especially hard on the Turtles, I think so anyways, Only because I can only imagine in any style, it will still make the turtles look awkard, It's especially the faces,

Serious? The faces and expressions on the Turtle's faces in the live action movies were almost always off.

"Good! Go! WE DON'T NEEEEEED YA." All with a blank face and a barely moving mouth.

Shellsweet · 06-29-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Serious? The faces and expressions on the Turtle's faces in the live action movies were almost always off.

"Good! Go! WE DON'T NEEEEEED YA." All with a blank face and a barely moving mouth.

LOL! dude, now that you mention it, your totally right

I completely forgotten that! But that's the 90tys for you. but considering what they could do today would be amazing.

*The Stryker* · 06-29-2010, 02:52 PM

And CG effects today are where it's at.

Look at District 9. They had a somewhat limited budget and the effects looked great.

*ToTheNines* · 06-29-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shellsweet

But CGI is especially hard on the Turtles, I think so anyways, Only because I can only imagine in any style, it will still make the turtles look awkard, It's especially the faces, and especially since they were trying to keep the "Mirage comic" Style to it.

Ok, you have a banner of the TMNT07 CGI turtles in your sig... but I'll move on...

It's your opinion that they didn't look good for the 2007 movie, but you can't just say the entire medium of CGI doesn't work for Ninja Turtles.

*Spitfire* · 06-29-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Look at District 9. They had a somewhat limited budget and the effects looked great.

D9 got freebies from Peter Jackson's production company. That's the only reason it looks that good for so cheap.

*Slap-Happy* · 06-29-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle

It sounds like you have more of a problem with the designs themselves then the medium. Much of the designs for today's CGI animated movies are still rooted in 2D caricatures.

That's so they don't have to worry about the uncanny valley (which is actually something studios care about.)

*Sage Ninja* · 06-29-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Opinion. I liked the designs in the CG movie over some of the stuff in the live action movies and especially anything in the 2k3 show.

I'm talking about hand drawn animation vs. CGI animation when they use typical cartoon styling for characters.

06-26-2010, 03:45 PM	#401
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06-26-2010, 07:21 PM	#403
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I see many CGI movies copying a mix of Pixar and Dreamworks human design, which they often don't get quite right, seen it in some indie films as well. but that particular style is easy to animate, and might also be based off a animator rigg called Lowmax and MAX. A link whit some lip sync made by a guy I know, he's a amazing 3D artist, and are top in class. he even excel the teachers, and make 3D characters so real it's awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_o1YKxK6zM __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

06-29-2010, 12:32 PM	#413
Shellsweet Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sewers of South Carolina. :P Posts: 126	ok, Well, Live Action Turtles, There's something about it that works with that incredibly well. But CGI is especially hard on the Turtles, I think so anyways, Only because I can only imagine in any style, it will still make the turtles look awkard, It's especially the faces, and especially since they were trying to keep the "Mirage comic" Style to it. Which is why from what I herd that Nick is going to do a Computer animated TMNT series, and that I'm not look too forward to because of that reason. (And their Computer Animated series arent that...good. But their 2d shows are great! like Wolverine and the X-men and Avatar: The Last Airbender, which I hope they will change their minds to switch to 2d cuz it works well with the turtles better) So, 2d you can DEFENITLY get away with. But computer animation makes it a little harder. But to defend 07, I did like the character designs a lot, it was an interesting style. But live action still owns. But 2d would be nice too, in my opinion, even though if they're going to make a movie like that I'm sure it'd just go straight to DVD. :/ I mean, Even Disney is straying away from 2d and doing computer animated movies. __________________ Check me out on DeviantART and Tumblr!: www.shellsweet.deviantart.com/ http://www.shellsweet.tumblr.com/ Ask me about Commissions!

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06-26-2010, 11:28 PM	#405
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Hey Has Bay even said what direction they are going with the reboot?