Nintendo DS vs Sony PSP

[Shadow Leonardo]

there are two name gaming systems DS is already out PSP is coming soon here are the features:
Nintendo DS:
1.has good graphics for it's games
2.can draw on it
3.can play Game Boy games IDK if this is true
4.can chat wirelessly

Sony PSP:
1.can play MP3's
2.has the same graphics as the DS for it's games
3.rumored it can play DVD's but I doubt it

but I pick the DS slightly better

[Kid Icarus]

Few corrections here:

Nintendo's releasing a media player that's going to use SD cards. It'll be capable of DVD quality movie playback, along with MP3 playback. The media's also MUCH cheaper then the Sony Memory Stick (SMS's are about 60 bucks for 225 MB. For that price you can get a 1GB SD card).

You also have to take in to account the battery life of both systems. My DS lasts about 7 hours. Word is the PSP only lasts 2-3 hours, but Sony keeps dodging this question, and changing their answers to confuse the media.

Then the games. The PSP can play PS2 level games. The DS offers totally new games. Feel the Magic is a prime example of this. That game just is NOT possible on anything else. Also, because of the battery life, developers are going to make their games shorter on the PSP. I woulden't expect any 80 hour epics from Square anytime soon (hey, that'd be about 40 recharges).

Then you have the screens. The PSP wins in quality, but the DS out shines it in every thing else. First off, the system protects it's screens, something the PSP just doesn't do.

The PSP's out in Japan. The DS is outselling it 5:1. And note, thats ONLY in Japan. Add in the US sales, and the PSP looks like a flop.

[愛]

So in other words, PSP blows hard. DS wins my heart. I still need to get one...

[ThirdMarioBro]

And let me show the proof with this week's Japanese sales....

1. Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special (PS2, Square Enix) - 185,000 units
2. Super Mario 64 DS (NDS, Nintendo) - 125,000 / 366,000 units
3. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2, Konami) - 122,000 / 610,000 units
4. Dragon Quest VIII (PS2, Square Enix) - 118,000 / 3,281,000 units
5. Mario Party 6 (GC, Nintendo) - 104,000 / 373,000 units
6. Sawaru Made in Wario (NDS, Nintendo) - 100,000 / 350,000 units
7. Pokemon Emerald (GBA, Pokemon) - 84,000 / 1,335,000 units
8. Rockman EXE 5: Team of Blues (GBA, Capcom) - 83,000 / 204,000 units
9. Kessen III (PS2, Koei) - 78,000 / 78,000 units
10. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (GC, Nintendo) - 74,000 / 121,000 units

1. Nintendo DS - 252,000 units
2. PlayStation 2 - 145,000 units
3. GameBoy Advance SP - 111,000 units
4. PlayStation Portable - 92,000 units
5. GameCube - 54,000 units

Simple put, Nintendo is killing them hard. Just wait until Nintendo gets out some new games, or anything with the word Pokemon on it, and Sony may just as well slit they're wrists. Gwg covered all the main issues.

PSP is a poorly designed piece of junk. It overheats, and it's ability to play UMD mocies will cost a fortune. Nintendo's releasing a media addapter that will basically let you pirate your DVD collection and watch them in MPEG4 on your DS (mp3's too). Nintendo will win this by a big margin.

[Barkworm]

The sale numbers for the PSP are kinda misleading though. All the PSPs that are shipped sell out in no time but Sony can't produce enough systems. If Sony could ship as much units as Nintendo does, the sales would probably be higher.
Anyway, I wouldn't recommend a PSP to anyone. I'm not really interested in handhelds but the DS is so inventive that I'm going to buy one. The PSP on the other hand is way too generic, plus it breaks too easily. It also has no interesting games. I think the only really good thing about it is the way it looks.

[ThirdMarioBro]

And even it's looks are just a GBA streched out of porportion. It's a fragile paperweight. I bet kids over here will break the store demo units in a week.

[Spitfire]

Heres what Ive read on both and after playing the DS heres what I think

DS
Pros
Nice desgin
Touch screen!
Still uses good old carts
Has a memory stick thing
Is wireless
Nice button layout
Screens look nice
Picto-chat
wireless network!

Cons
Graphics arent as good as PSP but great for a handheld system, better then N64 if you ask me
Lack of really intresting titles, to me anyways

PSP
Pros
Also has a nice desgin...with a explosed screen
Lots of good titles, to me anyways
The widescreen is really nice
The graphics Ive read are better then a PS2 and Ive even read this in magazines
Can play Mp3s and all that nice stuff

Cons
EVen though Sony compressed the data on the discs to the battry life is longer its still pathicly low
Disks cant save on themselves like carts thus we have memory cards...yay Sony con more cash out of me
The joy stick is retarded
The screen can get damaged very easily, makes you wonder why Nintendo came out with the SP doesnt it Sony?
Disk = moving parts and when moving parts get dropped or just a bit out of place they break so I think you can break them easier. Kinda like if you drop a CD player

Though the PSP has a buttload more of games I would play I dont care. I never had a GBA so every GBA that intrests me I can still get, and thats quite a few, PLUS theres probly more DS titles comming out that will intrest me. Im sorry Sony you lose my buiness this time. Maybe PS3

Id also like to inform you all that the PSP has a Devil May Cry game comming out for it. That alone would make me want to buy one but Im still going with the DS. That should tell you something espcially people who know how much I like Devil May Cry

[Jonatello]

Originally Posted by TMNT Leonardo

there are two name gaming systems DS is already out PSP is coming soon here are the features:
Nintendo DS:
1.has good graphics for it's games
2.can draw on it
3.can play Game Boy games IDK if this is true
4.can chat wirelessly

Sony PSP:
1.can play MP3's
2.has the same graphics as the DS for it's games
3.rumored it can play DVD's but I doubt it

but I pick the DS slightly better

PSP cannot play DVDs. Only movies made for it like FF:AC

[ThirdMarioBro]

Sony probobly did this so they could pull a Nintendo and release a flip fold PSP in the future. NIntendo released the SP out of necessity because we'd been needing it for 12 damn years. Sony wants to find a way to milk us for more money in the future by making a flip top model....just in time for when the originals break down.

People can see through they're cheap techniques a lot easier now.

[Kid Icarus]

Barkworm: Lack of units is Sonys problem then. If they're having problems meeting demand, they should increase production.

And Spitfire, of course the PSP's going to have more games... it's the same thing developers have been programing for for years now. The DS pushes them to think diffrently, and to comeup with new games. When Animal Crossing DS, and Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, come out, we're going to see a HUGE sales boom.

Kinda makes me wonder why Nintendo doesn't make a full blown Pokemon RPG for a console, but that's for another discussion.

[Brodie]

TMB just pissed all over this thread.

I only give the PSP a week after the release before TMB finds someone who bought one and takes it away, throws it, then pisses all over that.

[Kid Icarus]

Please Brodie...













It'd only be a day, at most, before I'd do that. Then I'd slap them.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Gwgtrunks

And Spitfire, of course the PSP's going to have more games...

Are you sure? Last time I checked there was an awful lot of studios making games for the DS. I can't imagine the PSP will have a lot more.

[Kid Icarus]

aug, i ment more games that he'll like. I'm not making sense, even to myself. o.O.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Gwgtrunks

Barkworm: Lack of units is Sonys problem then. If they're having problems meeting demand, they should increase production.

And Spitfire, of course the PSP's going to have more games... it's the same thing developers have been programing for for years now. The DS pushes them to think diffrently, and to comeup with new games. When Animal Crossing DS, and Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, come out, we're going to see a HUGE sales boom.

Kinda makes me wonder why Nintendo doesn't make a full blown Pokemon RPG for a console, but that's for another discussion.

Haha theres more GBA games I want then PSP games anyways so the DS already wins and all the games for GBA are cheap now. Yes I would buy a DS just to play GBA games! You gots a problem!?

[ThirdMarioBro]

*unzips pants*

There are also way more developers making games for DS than PSP. THe reason is simple. To make a game for PSP requires the full amount of work, production time, money, and investment required for a modern PS2 title. Simple put, few developers can afford that kind of investment for a portable. That's not even mentioning how complicated the hardware is....just like that of PS2. The only non-port titles coming out for it in Japan are parlor games. There are going to be tons of PS2 ports.

Nintendo has created easy to use front end programs to make development easier for DS than even the GBA. Developers are happy because they get to be the first to think up new ideas. Touch screen are nothing new, but never has there been a device available to the general public that allows these new ideas to be available to everyone. The developers are running with it. You're just not seeing a lot of them now because NIntendo got the system out early for Christmas. Something Sony just couldn't pull off over here because NIntendo flogged the LCD companies. Sharp and Panasonic won't leave Nintendo simple because they know who will win. Gamers will see all kinds of original ideas next year, and we all know what will happen when they drop the Pokemon bomb. Pokemania slowed down, because Nintendo hasn't really done anything new with it. If they go MMORPG, they'll shut down the whole damn internet.

DS will win. Japan has already proven this. Final Fantasy movies don't garner as much attention as games do. DS has Final Fantasy games, PSP dosen't. Final Fantasy is the very reason Sony is where they are now.

Also keep in mind, SD flash cards are coming down in price, and going up in size every day. 8GB models are coming. As the DS's life goes on, these cards will become accessable to developers. PSP's UMD discs are about 1.5GB. Discs can't be upgraded in size. SD cards can. Theoretically, once the approiate size card becomes available, they could port a full size Final Fantasy game from PS1, FMV's intact, to the DS and upgrade the graphics to they systems potential. Or they could just make new games. Hell, the Metroid demo proved it can do super compressed FMV right now. We don't know half of this system's potential yet. They've hidden little secrets they intend to unleash every time Sony gains a little ground, the first of which will be online/noline gaming right at the thing's launch. PSP is doomed. I rest my case.

[Spitfire]

Even though you pretty much Hate PSP dont you think maybe if they take another shot at it they might get it right the 2nd time around? I think they could. I mean it is their first shot at a handheld

[ThirdMarioBro]

They might do better next time, but I hope Nintendo crushes the hell out of them the first time so all those damn magazines will shut up saying that they're days of producing hardware are over just because Sony decided to raise they're hand.

I hate Sony mostly because of the image they've placed on gamers. Hardcore gamers are now considered rejects to the public. Basically, if you don't play Madden and GTA, you're not a "real gamer" anymore. It makes me want to vomit. That, and everyone in the US seems to feel they must go with whatever the general public decides is mainstream. If you don't, you're a reject. That is why I hate PSP. They want to force the handheld gamers to believe that if they own a Game Boy or DS, they're a kiddy nerd, and if you want to be cool, you must own a PSP. That is they're only option, and they run it full force. They have the power to do so, and I'm afraid the American public is stupid enough to go for it. We live for hype over here.

Also, there's the fact that if the PSP bombs, it'll wreak the Playstation brand. Thet'll hurt them in the next console battle, and at least level the field and let the world see a real console war, and you know with Reggie's marketing, Nintendo will go for Sony's blood.

[Spitfire]

Thats so true. Im always whats against style anyways. I hate everything mainsteam. From music to movies. I like alot of movies that the general public as you put it dont like. The general public to me is stupid and cant comprehend something intelligent like Hero because it has subtitles so they go watch something like Day After Tommrow and think its the greateat film ever. Most people are just fanboys. Everyone assumes if you have a certin system you need a certin game. Everyone thinks because I have a GC and a PS2 I have to have GTA games and Super Smash Brothers Melee. And everyone thinls because my Dad has a Xbox that he needs Halo he doesnt even like FPS games. Plus everyone just buys what magazines tell them to and everyone on gamer forums are just a bunch of 13 year olds who like to start fights and try to make themselves look cool. They think if the game had a M rating its instantly better then anything without a M rating. They also act like Gamecube is the outcast kiddy system because of games like Pikmin yet they ignore games like the RE series and Metal gear Twin Snakes. Hell Eternal Darkness too! But the rating doesnt make the game. Companys like Rockstar just make M rated games so pre-teenagers will buy them. They market them that way. I thought State Of Emergency and Man Hunt sucked but every 13 year old I talked to loved it just as much as they loved their Budokai which they think is the best fighting game ever made

Unless PS3 has Devil May Cry titles, and rumor has it 3 is the last game, or it has Zone Of The Enders titles Im no buying it. And rumor has it ZOE is no longer going to be made. If they make it they should make it for the Revolution because it would look so awesome and the controls would fit perfectly I bet

[ThirdMarioBro]

All that needs to happen is for Square to dump Sony, and they're bridge will crumble. But we all know how much Square is in bed with Sony.