TMNT comics

*Mr. Snackpants* · 12-27-2002, 08:51 PM

If I were to start collecting comics, which should I buy? Aren;t the Mirage ones the originals and better ones? If someone could help thatd be great. And if someone has a link to a list of all the comics that'd help to. Thanks.

Apple Cat · 12-27-2002, 09:12 PM

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Shellfox · 12-28-2002, 05:16 AM

What you want to get is relitive to who you are
M- Good stories, but the art can be a turn off
A- Loosly based off the toon, but with more adult overtones, and better art work
I- No rules, guys go in, and get put through a meat grinder

**Karpo_007** · 12-28-2002, 06:18 AM

If you want the best stories and more mature TMNT go with Mirage. It'd the original Form of TMNT and the best too. It's true that all don't like the black & white style. If you like Goofy TMNT, this one is probably not for you.

Archie is for the younger audience, but it's much better than the cartoon. In the later issues the artwork gets pretty good.

Image... Well I can't say I like it. I have read only one issue but I have heard that the rest goes with the same line. The TMNT gets mutilated a lot, and Splinter turns into a bat...

Sparvid · 12-28-2002, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shredhead13

If I were to start collecting comics, which should I buy?

My advice would be The Collected Books 1 and 4.

Quote:

Aren;t the Mirage ones the originals and better ones?

Correct

Greed · 12-28-2002, 08:24 AM

Get Mirage and Archie that way you can't lose don't get Image it sucks

MzTheInsomniac · 12-28-2002, 09:15 AM

no offense BUT GO MARVEL even though its not the TMNT

Aztec General · 12-28-2002, 11:05 AM

Mirage is really the way to go. It has deep storylines that cover mature subjects and are filled with action and drama. Check out the Collected books 1-4 which are issues #1-21, Tales of the TMNT, Veitch's Old Man River which I believe is 24-6, 28 (very sad), 48-62 (City At War). Then Vol. 2 #1-13 and Vol. 4 #1-7 (ongoing). Also be certain to check out Michael Zulli's 3 parter mid-30s issues, it's amazing but not part of TMNT canon.

Many of the events in the Archie series are bizarre or fairly uninspired: a dimensional transporting cow head, a cowboy, mutant animal/men galore, and Shredder is almost non-existent as a villian. Although there were some good stories, and some of the later issues (which I don't have) looked interesting. Overall I would not suggest collecting this series. Speaking of which one of these days I'm going to sell my issues...

As for Image Shellfox put it best the TMNT go through the meat grinder. The idea as Rapheal moonlighting as Shredder was cool, but otherwise the series seemed to serve only as a vehicle to disfigure the turtles. It's hard to believe that Erik Larsen still defends the series to this day.

~~PWDESAI~~ · 12-28-2002, 12:40 PM

i was thinking of scanning in the first comics collected series, cuz it has color, has anyone scanned that in yet?

xZAOx · 12-28-2002, 12:40 PM

if we had to pick sides, id pick erik's. at first, i was like...man, those are gonna suck. but i got a few, and they really get ya hooked. i dont think he meant the mutilations to be the big focus, but more as ways to get the turtles to face different challenges. there were some awesome storylines, that i really enjoyed. its a shame it ended when it did! there was a LOT left to tell. you can definately see the series wasnt done with what they wanted, there was a lot of unanswered questions...not to mention, mikey wasnt deformed yet, haha =)

as for my opinion on the original mirage series, its a potluck. i liked the first 3 or 4. im not to big on the whole space thing though, but they are definately worth reading at least once. the river story, and mike zullis story (and especially his art!) are outstanding. i wanna see mike do a whole series =). the city at war (50-62) is great, as are the rest of the 40s. the return to new york (19-21 i think) stuff is great, alot of it was used in the first movie, and is i think the best lawson art. the tales of the tmnt are good stuffs too.

Aztec General · 12-28-2002, 12:48 PM

I forgot to mention each individual Turtle's one shot. Those were great especially Leo and Raph's (both of which appeared in the first movie in some form), also Don's will be an episode in the new cartoon.
Also here's to hoping Dreamwave provides some great new material.

**Karpo_007** · 12-28-2002, 02:45 PM

I heard that the new comic won't necessarily be a children's version of TMNT like archie, it could become another universe like Ultimate Spider-Man. I really hope that would happen. I read both Amazing Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man and I think that if they would do something like that with TMNT, it would be cool.

Aztec General · 12-28-2002, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

I heard that the new comic won't necessarily be a children's version of TMNT like archie, it could become another universe like Ultimate Spider-Man. I really hope that would happen. I read both Amazing Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man and I think that if they would do something like that with TMNT, it would be cool.

Sounds good. If it's anything like the Transformers comics I've seen from Dreamwave then I'm game.

ChibiKasai · 12-28-2002, 03:20 PM

According to the January 2003 issue of Wizard, the TMNT series coming from Dreamwave will be based on the cartoon, and aimed at a younger audience. Suppossedly it'll start with a 5 issue limited series written by Peter David, and drawn by Pat Lee.

IMO, this is certain to ROCK.
Pat Lee is one of the best artists out there. His Transformers are awesome, and I'm sure his Turtles will be too.
And Peter David is one of my favorite authors. I love his work on Captain Marvel...some moments made me laugh out loud, others made me hold back tears...just great stuff. And he knows how to write teens: Just look at Young Justice and SpyBoy.

I think the TMNT are good hands.

**Karpo_007** · 12-28-2002, 03:30 PM

Oh... well thats kind of disapointment. Well if it's based on the cartoon, Im not sure if there is enough reason to start buing it.

Greed · 12-28-2002, 04:57 PM

Just hope they'll do what they did with Transformers Armada for TMNT

12-27-2002, 09:12 PM	#2
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12-28-2002, 08:24 AM	#6
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	Get Mirage and Archie that way you can't lose don't get Image it sucks __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

12-28-2002, 09:15 AM	#7
MzTheInsomniac Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Daaaaaaayton O hi O Posts: 680	no offense BUT GO MARVEL even though its not the TMNT __________________ www.wheeljack.com BEETCH GO THERE!!!!

12-28-2002, 11:05 AM	#8
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	Mirage is really the way to go. It has deep storylines that cover mature subjects and are filled with action and drama. Check out the Collected books 1-4 which are issues #1-21, Tales of the TMNT, Veitch's Old Man River which I believe is 24-6, 28 (very sad), 48-62 (City At War). Then Vol. 2 #1-13 and Vol. 4 #1-7 (ongoing). Also be certain to check out Michael Zulli's 3 parter mid-30s issues, it's amazing but not part of TMNT canon. Many of the events in the Archie series are bizarre or fairly uninspired: a dimensional transporting cow head, a cowboy, mutant animal/men galore, and Shredder is almost non-existent as a villian. Although there were some good stories, and some of the later issues (which I don't have) looked interesting. Overall I would not suggest collecting this series. Speaking of which one of these days I'm going to sell my issues... As for Image Shellfox put it best the TMNT go through the meat grinder. The idea as Rapheal moonlighting as Shredder was cool, but otherwise the series seemed to serve only as a vehicle to disfigure the turtles. It's hard to believe that Erik Larsen still defends the series to this day. __________________

12-28-2002, 12:48 PM	#11
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	I forgot to mention each individual Turtle's one shot. Those were great especially Leo and Raph's (both of which appeared in the first movie in some form), also Don's will be an episode in the new cartoon. Also here's to hoping Dreamwave provides some great new material. __________________

12-27-2002, 08:51 PM	#1
Mr. Snackpants Keep cool my babies! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mount Pleasant Posts: 2,239	TMNT comics If I were to start collecting comics, which should I buy? Aren;t the Mirage ones the originals and better ones? If someone could help thatd be great. And if someone has a link to a list of all the comics that'd help to. Thanks.

12-28-2002, 05:16 AM	#3
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	What you want to get is relitive to who you are M- Good stories, but the art can be a turn off A- Loosly based off the toon, but with more adult overtones, and better art work I- No rules, guys go in, and get put through a meat grinder

12-28-2002, 06:18 AM	#4
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	If you want the best stories and more mature TMNT go with Mirage. It'd the original Form of TMNT and the best too. It's true that all don't like the black & white style. If you like Goofy TMNT, this one is probably not for you. Archie is for the younger audience, but it's much better than the cartoon. In the later issues the artwork gets pretty good. Image... Well I can't say I like it. I have read only one issue but I have heard that the rest goes with the same line. The TMNT gets mutilated a lot, and Splinter turns into a bat...

12-28-2002, 12:40 PM	#9
~~PWDESAI~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,873	i was thinking of scanning in the first comics collected series, cuz it has color, has anyone scanned that in yet?

12-28-2002, 12:40 PM	#10
xZAOx Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TN Posts: 842	if we had to pick sides, id pick erik's. at first, i was like...man, those are gonna suck. but i got a few, and they really get ya hooked. i dont think he meant the mutilations to be the big focus, but more as ways to get the turtles to face different challenges. there were some awesome storylines, that i really enjoyed. its a shame it ended when it did! there was a LOT left to tell. you can definately see the series wasnt done with what they wanted, there was a lot of unanswered questions...not to mention, mikey wasnt deformed yet, haha =) as for my opinion on the original mirage series, its a potluck. i liked the first 3 or 4. im not to big on the whole space thing though, but they are definately worth reading at least once. the river story, and mike zullis story (and especially his art!) are outstanding. i wanna see mike do a whole series =). the city at war (50-62) is great, as are the rest of the 40s. the return to new york (19-21 i think) stuff is great, alot of it was used in the first movie, and is i think the best lawson art. the tales of the tmnt are good stuffs too.

12-28-2002, 02:45 PM	#12
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I heard that the new comic won't necessarily be a children's version of TMNT like archie, it could become another universe like Ultimate Spider-Man. I really hope that would happen. I read both Amazing Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man and I think that if they would do something like that with TMNT, it would be cool.

12-28-2002, 03:20 PM	#14
ChibiKasai Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 126	According to the January 2003 issue of Wizard, the TMNT series coming from Dreamwave will be based on the cartoon, and aimed at a younger audience. Suppossedly it'll start with a 5 issue limited series written by Peter David, and drawn by Pat Lee. IMO, this is certain to ROCK. Pat Lee is one of the best artists out there. His Transformers are awesome, and I'm sure his Turtles will be too. And Peter David is one of my favorite authors. I love his work on Captain Marvel...some moments made me laugh out loud, others made me hold back tears...just great stuff. And he knows how to write teens: Just look at Young Justice and SpyBoy. I think the TMNT are good hands. __________________ Have no fear of perfection- you'll never reach it. Salvador Dali www.kishiadesign.com

12-28-2002, 03:30 PM	#15
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Oh... well thats kind of disapointment. Well if it's based on the cartoon, Im not sure if there is enough reason to start buing it.

12-28-2002, 04:57 PM	#16
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	Just hope they'll do what they did with Transformers Armada for TMNT __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)