Why were the Red Sky seasons so short???

Brothaman · 12-30-2002, 03:11 PM

Ok I was looking at all the episode guide at tvtome.com. all the way from Season 8 to 10... the eps are so short. There had to be about 8 episodes a season where in the older episodes... there were like 20 to even 30 just about.

**Karpo_007** · 12-30-2002, 04:40 PM

I don't know. Well it is certain that the used much more time in amking those, The animation quality is in totally diffrent class. Think of it this way: The first season had only 5.

*Nickokapo* · 12-30-2002, 04:52 PM

My guess is because they worked more on the animation quality and also because the power rangers had more rating....it could be a totally different reason tho.
But the tmnt cartoon's like that, some seasons have very few episodes (like season 1) and another ones have a crapload of eps (like season 3)

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 12-30-2002, 05:02 PM

The reason I think the Red Sky episodes were so few in number is because there was only one writer for each season. David Wise wrote all the episodes for Seasons 8 and 9, and Jeffrey Scott wrote all the episodes for Season 10.

It wasn't like other seasons where there were multiple writers all contributing stories. Just look at Seasons 3 and 4, for example. There were many writers during those seasons; hence, that is why there were so many episodes.

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"I hope I am, too, my son."

Michaelangelo and Splinter, from "What's Michaelangelo Good For?"

*Deathknight* · 12-30-2002, 05:07 PM

Season 8 should've been longer but season 9 and 10 were painful to watch sometimes. I hate Dregg, always have, always will.

*Nickokapo* · 12-30-2002, 05:07 PM

I didn't know that

seems like a good reason to me.
And on second thought the ratings probably only stopped the cartoon from having any new seasons, not new episodes, so now i doubt it affected the lenght of the red sky seasons.

**Karpo_007** · 12-30-2002, 05:52 PM

Yeah the writher thing could be a part reason. But atleast there is a real story with continyity.

ChibiKasai · 12-30-2002, 06:19 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I most likely am), but weren't the other seasons made for/shown in syndication 5 days a week, where as the Red Sky eps were only on Saturday mornings?
That could be a good reason why there are so fewer episodes.

**Karpo_007** · 12-30-2002, 06:35 PM

I don'y know how they were aired in the Us, but that makes sense.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 12-30-2002, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChibiKasai

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I most likely am), but weren't the other seasons made for/shown in syndication 5 days a week, where as the Red Sky eps were only on Saturday mornings?
That could be a good reason why there are so fewer episodes.

I believe the first three seasons were continually shown in syndication on FOX and USA. After a while, the CBS episodes that aired weekly were eventually aired daily on the USA network, while new episodes were still being broadcast on CBS.

There could be many reasons why there were fewer episodes. Another theory that I've tossed around is that by the time the Red Sky episodes were airing, the Ninja Turtles were losing steam with viewers. The introduction of the Red Sky episodes brought back a little interest in Season 8, but then when Dregg and Company were brought in for Seasons 9 and 10, only the hardest of hardcore viewers continued to tune in every week.

"You foolish little beings have no concept of my power!" - Dregg, from "Divine and Conquer"

~~Reznorite420~~ · 12-30-2002, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Think of it this way: The first season had only 5.

Yes, but the first season didn't really start out as a "season" per se. It was supposed to end after that little 5-part miniseries. It only happend originally so that Playmates could sell the toys.

**Karpo_007** · 12-31-2002, 02:42 AM

Yeah, but it is the the best season of them all. 8 comes close, but nothing can beat the first one...

~~Reznorite420~~ · 12-31-2002, 01:23 PM

Personally, I think they're tied. The first season had that mood to it that only true TMNT fans (people like us) could understand. Season 8 had the right level of action and almost the same mood, but I liked it more on the basis that it was re-vamped and, to be honest, conformed more to the style of cartoons in that time period. That was a year where I watched cartoons like you wouldn't believe.

**Karpo_007** · 12-31-2002, 01:25 PM

Yeah I too think that the 8th season is great. I have heard bad things about 9 and 10, but I can't belive it could be that bad...

~~Reznorite420~~ · 12-31-2002, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Yeah I too think that the 8th season is great. I have heard bad things about 9 and 10, but I can't belive it could be that bad...

Believe it...they just don't seem like TMNT to me. Kinda boring IMO, but it won't hurt to see them for yourself at least once and make your own opinion.

**Karpo_007** · 12-31-2002, 01:29 PM

Yeah. Well once I have experience about them il probably post it.

Psycrow · 12-31-2002, 02:12 PM

Since I was an avid watcher of the TMNT for its whole continuity, the sole reason that the Red Sky episodes were so short was because of the dying fanbase the TMNT had. They had hit the end of the road by then, and the cartoon/writers kept trying new things that no one bought into.

**Karpo_007** · 12-31-2002, 02:58 PM

The sjow changed for the better, there was good plot and animation, But of course this just by judging few first eps of the 8th season. Well they are Written by David Wise, and so are all the best episodes of the series.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 12-31-2002, 03:00 PM

I read somewhere that the reason the Ninja Turtles cartoon show was scaled back to a half-hour instead of an hour on Saturday mornings was because Season 8 was too dark for Saturday morning TV.

CBS bigheads thought that little kids might be scared by the grimmer-looking Turtles and, thus, switch to another station altogether.

"How could you let that creep get the drop on you?" - Raphael, from "The Unknown Ninja"

the_minimizer · 12-31-2002, 03:39 PM

I saw a picture of the technodrome that was contributed by someone and it had the red sky on it. But the technodrome was brutally banged up, the eye was gone and it looked terrible. But it didn't even look like a ninja turtles cartoon. The dark branches in the picture and the red sky made it look eerie, like something more of a sci-fi/horror cartoon.

What the writers should've done was to have Shredder go solo for a while and do things without Krang. Like the two would go their own seperate ways.

12-30-2002, 03:11 PM	#1
Brothaman Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20	Why were the Red Sky seasons so short??? Ok I was looking at all the episode guide at tvtome.com. all the way from Season 8 to 10... the eps are so short. There had to be about 8 episodes a season where in the older episodes... there were like 20 to even 30 just about.

12-30-2002, 04:52 PM	#3
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,800	My guess is because they worked more on the animation quality and also because the power rangers had more rating....it could be a totally different reason tho. But the tmnt cartoon's like that, some seasons have very few episodes (like season 1) and another ones have a crapload of eps (like season 3) __________________

12-30-2002, 05:07 PM	#5
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	Season 8 should've been longer but season 9 and 10 were painful to watch sometimes. I hate Dregg, always have, always will. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

12-30-2002, 05:07 PM	#6
Nickokapo Emperor Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,800	I didn't know that seems like a good reason to me. And on second thought the ratings probably only stopped the cartoon from having any new seasons, not new episodes, so now i doubt it affected the lenght of the red sky seasons. __________________

12-30-2002, 06:19 PM	#8
ChibiKasai Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 126	Correct me if I'm wrong (which I most likely am), but weren't the other seasons made for/shown in syndication 5 days a week, where as the Red Sky eps were only on Saturday mornings? That could be a good reason why there are so fewer episodes. __________________ Have no fear of perfection- you'll never reach it. Salvador Dali www.kishiadesign.com

12-30-2002, 04:40 PM	#2
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I don't know. Well it is certain that the used much more time in amking those, The animation quality is in totally diffrent class. Think of it this way: The first season had only 5.

12-30-2002, 05:02 PM	#4
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	The reason I think the Red Sky episodes were so few in number is because there was only one writer for each season. David Wise wrote all the episodes for Seasons 8 and 9, and Jeffrey Scott wrote all the episodes for Season 10. It wasn't like other seasons where there were multiple writers all contributing stories. Just look at Seasons 3 and 4, for example. There were many writers during those seasons; hence, that is why there were so many episodes. "Sensei, I hope you're right." "I hope I am, too, my son." Michaelangelo and Splinter, from "What's Michaelangelo Good For?"

12-30-2002, 05:52 PM	#7
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah the writher thing could be a part reason. But atleast there is a real story with continyity.

12-30-2002, 06:35 PM	#9
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I don'y know how they were aired in the Us, but that makes sense.

12-31-2002, 02:42 AM	#12
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah, but it is the the best season of them all. 8 comes close, but nothing can beat the first one...

12-31-2002, 01:23 PM	#13
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Personally, I think they're tied. The first season had that mood to it that only true TMNT fans (people like us) could understand. Season 8 had the right level of action and almost the same mood, but I liked it more on the basis that it was re-vamped and, to be honest, conformed more to the style of cartoons in that time period. That was a year where I watched cartoons like you wouldn't believe.

12-31-2002, 01:25 PM	#14
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah I too think that the 8th season is great. I have heard bad things about 9 and 10, but I can't belive it could be that bad...

12-31-2002, 01:29 PM	#16
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah. Well once I have experience about them il probably post it.

12-31-2002, 02:12 PM	#17
Psycrow Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 435	Since I was an avid watcher of the TMNT for its whole continuity, the sole reason that the Red Sky episodes were so short was because of the dying fanbase the TMNT had. They had hit the end of the road by then, and the cartoon/writers kept trying new things that no one bought into. __________________ "Before you criticize others you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away... and you have their shoes."

12-31-2002, 02:58 PM	#18
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	The sjow changed for the better, there was good plot and animation, But of course this just by judging few first eps of the 8th season. Well they are Written by David Wise, and so are all the best episodes of the series.

12-31-2002, 03:00 PM	#19
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	I read somewhere that the reason the Ninja Turtles cartoon show was scaled back to a half-hour instead of an hour on Saturday mornings was because Season 8 was too dark for Saturday morning TV. CBS bigheads thought that little kids might be scared by the grimmer-looking Turtles and, thus, switch to another station altogether. "How could you let that creep get the drop on you?" - Raphael, from "The Unknown Ninja"

12-31-2002, 03:39 PM	#20
the_minimizer Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 230	Ugh I saw a picture of the technodrome that was contributed by someone and it had the red sky on it. But the technodrome was brutally banged up, the eye was gone and it looked terrible. But it didn't even look like a ninja turtles cartoon. The dark branches in the picture and the red sky made it look eerie, like something more of a sci-fi/horror cartoon. What the writers should've done was to have Shredder go solo for a while and do things without Krang. Like the two would go their own seperate ways.