4kids is clearly up to something with the Lost Season.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 12-21-2006, 09:11 PM

Okay....4kids is obviously trying to confuse us all with what they want to do.

First off, they retool TMNT into this kid-friendly "spin-off" called Fast Forward. Bascially ignoring the foundations they set in stone in the season 4 finale 'Ninja Tribunal'.

Next, they actually reveal that animation and work has been done on the Lost Season episodes and will be completed. A DVD set of the episodes is announced. They end up putting some of the episodes On Demand. Turtles fans rejoice! 2k3 isn't dead...or is it?

Then, they stop putting the Lost Season episodes On Demand. The DVD set is officially postponed in the US to get ready for the Fast Forward release. So is that "postponed" or "cancelled"? Well, actually it's coming in March....in Austraila and New Zealand. Oh no! Will 4kids actually finish the Lost Season episodes for us to see?

Then, we hear that the first season of Fast Forward get's broken into two parts. (The first half just finished airing.) The DVD set is forthcoming. What's going on?

Well, 'The Journal' comes along and shakes EVERYTHING up. With some things that actually tie into the Lost Season episodes we already seen but not everyone has! (Remember, the Lost Season episodes were not aired like any other TMNT 2k3 episodes were. So not everyone saw them.) My point is that if they were actually going to complete can the Ninja Tribunal episodes, then why would they show stuff that obviously take place afterwards in an episode of Fast Forward?

My theory is this. And their are probably a few who share this. Since season one of Fast Forward got hacked into two pieces, perhaps 4kids WILL air all the Lost Season episodes sometime early next year. It adds up! This episode gives that theory more juice than ever before! I mean, just add up the math! The probability just skyrocketed! Maybe we don't have to wait for March to import after all. Could the Lost Season be heading our way starting in January? This episode clearly points us into that distinctive direction.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 12-21-2006, 11:05 PM

Or they could just be assholes who dont know whwat to do with a great property.

Still, your views are nice.

*Spitfire* · 12-22-2006, 04:02 AM

Well when they made the 100th episode the Don Monster one and not Tales Of Yoshi like it was supposed to be I figured they had their head up their asses. The the order of DVD episodes suggests so as well.

*gobo* · 12-22-2006, 08:30 AM

But, all the anti-4Kids sentiments will only make them less willing to cooperate with the fans. Don't you think?

*CyberCubed* · 12-22-2006, 11:15 AM

I'm still amazed that people think 4kids won't want to make money off the Lost season.

Do you know how much money they spent on the animation, scripts and editing on those 12 episodes? Why in the world would they waste that money if they didn't want to sell them?

They'll be released eventually on a DVD boxset, (along with the finale of Season 4 since that's not on DVD yet), or aired on TV, or both.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 12-22-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

But, all the anti-4Kids sentiments will only make them less willing to cooperate with the fans. Don't you think?

It's not like they're gonna come in here and see this, they're too afraid of the fans.

*gobo* · 12-22-2006, 12:58 PM

Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*

*iris* · 12-22-2006, 02:04 PM

Leo Warrior Turtle, I had thought of that too, since it would be a waste to have made the episodes and not market it to the 'States in some way, but 4Kids is very unpredictable.

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Originally Posted by gobo

Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*

Wait, if you're not at your own desk, whose computer are you using? LOL

I really wish they hadn't named their company "4Kids". That name really aggravates me-- and no, it's not because I'm a so-called adult. [/random complaint]

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It's not like they're gonna come in here and see this, they're too afraid of the fans.

Nah, companies often pay attention to forums, but they tend not to look too far past their own. If ninjaturtles.com had its own forums, they'd look at that too. The reason they pay more attention these days? In addition to market research, journalists look at forums, and sometimes quote them in their articles.

*Spitfire* · 12-22-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm still amazed that people think 4kids won't want to make money off the Lost season.

Do you know how much money they spent on the animation, scripts and editing on those 12 episodes? Why in the world would they waste that money if they didn't want to sell them?

They'll be released eventually on a DVD boxset, (along with the finale of Season 4 since that's not on DVD yet), or aired on TV, or both.

I thought Laird sprung the bill for TLS because 4Kids wouldn't

*gobo* · 12-22-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by iris

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Originally Posted by gobo

Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*

Wait, if you're not at your own desk, whose computer are you using? LOL

*Warhorse* · 12-22-2006, 09:14 PM

You think 4kids is waiting to see what the release of the new movie will do to the TMNT franchise?

*iris* · 12-22-2006, 09:57 PM

I think they'd be stupid not to-- if they're thinking of dropping TMNT.

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Wha... er... what I meant to say was... um... boy you really must have a lot of offices and computers to go with your high-level position at 4KE!

*gobo* · 12-22-2006, 10:16 PM

tortugapower · 12-22-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

It's not like they're gonna come in here and see this, they're too afraid of the fans.

HA! Nope!

There are probably a number of 4Kids people who look at these boards - and they may even post once in awhile!

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Originally Posted by gobo

Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*

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Originally Posted by gobo

HA! Jokes! I get jokes!

Spoiler:

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

You think 4kids is waiting to see what the release of the new movie will do to the TMNT franchise?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

Okay....4kids is obviously trying to confuse us all with what they want to do.

My theory is this. And their are probably a few who share this. Since season one of Fast Forward got hacked into two pieces, perhaps 4kids WILL air all the Lost Season episodes sometime early next year. It adds up! This episode gives that theory more juice than ever before! I mean, just add up the math! The probability just skyrocketed! Maybe we don't have to wait for March to import after all. Could the Lost Season be heading our way starting in January? This episode clearly points us into that distinctive direction.

They are not trying to confuse us, their plate is full with a number of other things right now (other shows, Fast Forward and the movie to start...) and these episodes were written before the decision to pull the "Lost Season" was made final.

It will not be out in January. It will get released one way or another though.

I think there is a much larger issue at hand here however:

They should re-release TMNT cereal. Picking out all the marshmellows in a box of lucky charms and mixing them with chex is not the same (and a hassle).

Also ninja turtle pies. DELICIOUS!

*gobo* · 12-23-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tortugapower

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Originally Posted by gobo

Point taken...
*heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment*

HA! Jokes! I get jokes!

Spoiler:

"Why y'all gotta waste my flava? Damn!"
Let's play 'guess the quote'! ^_^

X · 12-23-2006, 01:21 PM

Gobo that would be from Can't Hardly Wait. Seth Greens line. Pretty funny line, don't know if I like the movie as much as I did when it first hit theatres when I was 18 or 19.

-X-

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 12-23-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tortugapower

HA! Nope!

There are probably a number of 4Kids people who look at these boards - and they may even post once in awhile!

Oh, well, um, did I call you guys assholes? Well, uh, what I meant was....that you guys are........eh, I got nothing. Sorry.

clockstomper · 12-23-2006, 02:52 PM

If they do end up using the Lost Season the show is over. It'll be a free way to milk the franchise for 6 to 8 months. They probably won't pay for further production of the series.

It's for the best I guess...after a season of pastel colors and censorship, there's no way they'd be allowed go back to the way things were.

As for 4Kids, they've made it clear from the other shows they've ruined that they only care about the bottom line. If you want to save the show, write to Peter Laird and tell him the show is worth fighting for! Also, make sure the movie succeeds...show 4Kids this is a profitable franchise when done right!

*MrPliggins* · 12-26-2006, 05:59 PM

It's true they care about the bottom line. It's a pretty simple idea really. New episodes aren't being produced at the moment. They aren't ready to produce new episodes because they are still unsure whether they want to cancel or not.
Hey wait- they can split the FF season...that'll give 'em another year to decide...or wait- they can cancel the release of TLS... which they could use if they need even more time to decide. Yeah, good idea...

*Chris* · 12-30-2006, 11:36 PM

I think that Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle is right.

I've said it before but I think 4Kids could have split Fast Forward and pulled Lost Season from DVD so they can air the LS episodes next year to coincide with the new movie.

If they don't do this then there will be a LOT of repeats between now and the start of Season 6/FF Season 2.

I'm thinking something like this;
Sept-Dec 06 - FF Season 1
Feb 07 - FF Season 1 DVD
Mar 07 - TMNT Movie
Mar-Apr 07 - Lost Season
Sept 07 - Lost Season DVD (or earlier or later depending on when Movie DVD released)
Sept-Dec 07 - FF Season 2
Feb 08 - FF Season 2 DVD

12-21-2006, 09:11 PM	#1
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	4kids is clearly up to something with the Lost Season. Okay....4kids is obviously trying to confuse us all with what they want to do. First off, they retool TMNT into this kid-friendly "spin-off" called Fast Forward. Bascially ignoring the foundations they set in stone in the season 4 finale 'Ninja Tribunal'. Next, they actually reveal that animation and work has been done on the Lost Season episodes and will be completed. A DVD set of the episodes is announced. They end up putting some of the episodes On Demand. Turtles fans rejoice! 2k3 isn't dead...or is it? Then, they stop putting the Lost Season episodes On Demand. The DVD set is officially postponed in the US to get ready for the Fast Forward release. So is that "postponed" or "cancelled"? Well, actually it's coming in March....in Austraila and New Zealand. Oh no! Will 4kids actually finish the Lost Season episodes for us to see? Then, we hear that the first season of Fast Forward get's broken into two parts. (The first half just finished airing.) The DVD set is forthcoming. What's going on? Well, 'The Journal' comes along and shakes EVERYTHING up. With some things that actually tie into the Lost Season episodes we already seen but not everyone has! (Remember, the Lost Season episodes were not aired like any other TMNT 2k3 episodes were. So not everyone saw them.) My point is that if they were actually going to complete can the Ninja Tribunal episodes, then why would they show stuff that obviously take place afterwards in an episode of Fast Forward? My theory is this. And their are probably a few who share this. Since season one of Fast Forward got hacked into two pieces, perhaps 4kids WILL air all the Lost Season episodes sometime early next year. It adds up! This episode gives that theory more juice than ever before! I mean, just add up the math! The probability just skyrocketed! Maybe we don't have to wait for March to import after all. Could the Lost Season be heading our way starting in January? This episode clearly points us into that distinctive direction. __________________

12-22-2006, 04:02 AM	#3
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12-22-2006, 08:30 AM	#4
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12-22-2006, 12:58 PM	#7
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Point taken... heads back to his desk at 4Kids Entertainment __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell. Last edited by gobo; 12-22-2006 at 01:05 PM.

12-22-2006, 10:16 PM	#13
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12-21-2006, 11:05 PM	#2
~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Seventh Layer of Hell Posts: 1,929	Or they could just be assholes who dont know whwat to do with a great property. Still, your views are nice.

12-22-2006, 11:15 AM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,814	I'm still amazed that people think 4kids won't want to make money off the Lost season. Do you know how much money they spent on the animation, scripts and editing on those 12 episodes? Why in the world would they waste that money if they didn't want to sell them? They'll be released eventually on a DVD boxset, (along with the finale of Season 4 since that's not on DVD yet), or aired on TV, or both.

12-22-2006, 09:14 PM	#11
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	You think 4kids is waiting to see what the release of the new movie will do to the TMNT franchise?

12-23-2006, 01:21 PM	#16
X Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 767	Gobo that would be from Can't Hardly Wait. Seth Greens line. Pretty funny line, don't know if I like the movie as much as I did when it first hit theatres when I was 18 or 19. -X-

12-23-2006, 02:52 PM	#18
clockstomper Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 116	If they do end up using the Lost Season the show is over. It'll be a free way to milk the franchise for 6 to 8 months. They probably won't pay for further production of the series. It's for the best I guess...after a season of pastel colors and censorship, there's no way they'd be allowed go back to the way things were. As for 4Kids, they've made it clear from the other shows they've ruined that they only care about the bottom line. If you want to save the show, write to Peter Laird and tell him the show is worth fighting for! Also, make sure the movie succeeds...show 4Kids this is a profitable franchise when done right! Last edited by clockstomper; 12-23-2006 at 02:58 PM.

12-26-2006, 05:59 PM	#19
MrPliggins Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,050	It's true they care about the bottom line. It's a pretty simple idea really. New episodes aren't being produced at the moment. They aren't ready to produce new episodes because they are still unsure whether they want to cancel or not. Hey wait- they can split the FF season...that'll give 'em another year to decide...or wait- they can cancel the release of TLS... which they could use if they need even more time to decide. Yeah, good idea...

12-30-2006, 11:36 PM	#20
Chris Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	I think that Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle is right. I've said it before but I think 4Kids could have split Fast Forward and pulled Lost Season from DVD so they can air the LS episodes next year to coincide with the new movie. If they don't do this then there will be a LOT of repeats between now and the start of Season 6/FF Season 2. I'm thinking something like this; Sept-Dec 06 - FF Season 1 Feb 07 - FF Season 1 DVD Mar 07 - TMNT Movie Mar-Apr 07 - Lost Season Sept 07 - Lost Season DVD (or earlier or later depending on when Movie DVD released) Sept-Dec 07 - FF Season 2 Feb 08 - FF Season 2 DVD