Old or new Turtles?

[Splinter Jr]

Hello all,

Im new to this forum, im 24 & live in Dublin. I joined this forum cause as a kid i loved the Turtles as did we all on here. But recently on youtube i was watching some of the old cartoons the ones i used to watch in the 80s & the memories came flooding back to me. I have even bought all the action figures again & i bought VOL 1,2,3,4,5 & 6 of the old series on DVD.

I just wanted to get peoples intake on which they prefare the new or old Turtles? Me i personally do NOT like the new ones, just not the same feeling watching them.

Turtles from the 80s have so much more meaning to me, every morning before i would go to school i would grab a bowl of Frosties jump up on the sofa & watch the Turtles, Good times ( not for my sister when i thought i was Leonardo haha i used to batter her)

So ya which one do you people like better new or old?

Regards: TT.

[Jon]

Well... heck, I can't really choose. As I think both shows are great.

The Classic TMNT has it's action and was packed with humor. While the 2K3 TMNT is more on action, with a little humor.
Both blends (of action and humor) are good stuff.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Tarantulatom

I just wanted to get peoples intake on which they prefare the new or old Turtles? Me i personally do NOT like the new ones, just not the same feeling watching them.
Regards: TT.

That's a shallow approach, both shows are damn good. Granted, the original is far superior, but the new series is amongst the best you'll see presently.

[Scandia]

I like them both very much:

- The OT was hysterical, had awesome character designs for the Turtles and April, and was a big staple of my tween and early teen years.

- The NT has awesome storylines and is very engaging.

They both have their time and place. They are both fantastic.

[ToTheNines]

Both. I say I like the new show better, but looking at my viewing habits I'm constantly watching the original toon. I do have alot more OT episodes than I do NT, but still.

[Bry]

I prefer the new series overall, as it's very closely based on the original source material and feels a lot more like the "real" Turtles to me. There are some stinkers in there (anything with the Garbageman and a lot of the superhero stuff), but the major story arcs are really very well done and quite engaging. I just watched "Return to New York" again the other day - there's really nothing in the old cartoon that can even touch that.

I still love the old cartoon, but a lot of my fond feelings for it mostly stem from nostalgia. Unfortunately, a lot of its run really doesn't hold up after re-watching them now as an adult.

The old show is still entertaining and plenty amusing, but it's a lot harder for me to get into it now. The new show has much stronger storylines, hands-down better action, and, y'know, actual character development. It's really a much stronger show overall, but at the same time it's hard to directly compare them, as they're so different by nature.

[triplexxx]

Originally Posted by Jon

Well... heck, I can't really choose. As I think both shows are great.

The Classic TMNT has it's action and was packed with humor. While the 2K3 TMNT is more on action, with a little humor.
Both blends (of action and humor) are good stuff.

I like them both very much:

- The OT was hysterical, had awesome character designs for the Turtles and April, and was a big staple of my tween and early teen years.

- The NT has awesome storylines and is very engaging.

They both have their time and place. They are both fantastic.

Fine enough words to sum up my own thoughts. Only difference is the OT years were my early years.

[Turtleman100]

I like them both. You know most of us on here like the Turtles because of the old cartoon. Welcome Tarantulatom

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Bry

I just watched "Return to New York" again the other day - there's really nothing in the old cartoon that can even touch that.

That's why no sensible fan even compares them. It'd be like saying the Adam West Batman movie is NOT one of the best adaptations of the Batman mythos established in the 1960s because the DCAU films are an example of the characters return to darker roots and beyond what was established by Bob Kane and Finger. Never mind the fact the film is hilarious, fun, enjoyable, and has enough great in-jokes and set-peices to be acclaimed as a product of it's time.

Really, who the heck cares what's better than what? Only modernists spoiled rotten by the 1990s resort to comparisons just to put themselves on some brokebacked horse and think there better than people who enjoy the original. Don't hold up? Bulls*it, you are obviously not watching the original TMNT for what it really is, not what it ISNT.

This is called THE TECHNODROME forums, that's not exactly a reason to start saying "Old toonz doesnt holdz upz".

[Bry]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

That's why no sensible fan even compares them. It'd be like saying the Adam West Batman movie is NOT one of the best adaptations of the Batman mythos established in the 1960s because the DCAU was superb.

Really, who the heck cares what's better than what? Only modernitsts resort to comparisons just to put themselves on some brokebacked horse and think there better than people who enjoy the original. Don't hold up? Bulls*it, you are obviously not watching the original TMNT for what it really is, not what it ISNT.

These threads are nothing but trouble, they really are.

This is called THE TECHNODROME forums, that's not exactly a reason to start saying "Old toonz doesnt holdz upz".

Easy, cowboy, all I'm doing is stating my preference. And note that I did say "but at the same time it's hard to directly compare them, as they're so different by nature."

[ZariusTwo]

I'm married, have a son, I've rewatched the original cartoon, I still find it better than the new series for reasons attributing to my enjoyment of Futurama and the earlier Simpsons

We dont need modernists trolling threads with "it doesnt hold up", there's no need for it. No need. What does it accomplish? Intentional or not, it's still a form of elitism and flamebait, it INSULTS fans who still think it holds up and has elements that put it above the present series.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I'm married, have a son, I've rewatched the original cartoon, I still find it better than the new series for reasons attributing to my enjoyment of Futurama and the earlier Simpsons

We dont need modernists trolling threads with "it doesnt hold up", there's no need for it. No need.

It's a thread asking which series we prefer of the two. How on earth can responding to that query and explaining ones' opinions on the matter be considered "trolling"?

If you're really going to get so riled up over one person stating their personal preference, then I don't know what to tell you, but I don't think the problem really lies with me. Chill out, please. It's really not a big deal.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Bry

It's a thread asking which series we prefer of the two. How on earth can responding to that and explaining ones' opinions be considered "trolling"?

"It doesnt hold up", I ellaobrated a little more above. Put that into consideration next time. No other person was using that card in here, and THAT says something about the respect other fans of both series have for each other.

You're the one who started the problem, not me.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

"It doesnt hold up", I ellaobrated a little more above. Put that into consideration next time. No other person was using that card in here, and THAT says something about the respect other fans of both series have for each other.

Again, I'm just stating my personal preference. That's all it is, and no disrespect was intended. There's really no need to take it so personally. It's really not a big deal, man.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

You're the one who started the problem, not me.

I didn't start this pointless argument, so I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

[ZariusTwo]

I'm not dragging this thread down arguing with a modernist. Matter closed. You're entitled to the opinion of the current series being "better" than the original, but try and avoid using that stupid card next time.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I'm not dragging this thread down arguing with a modernist.

...what?

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

You're entitled to the opinion of the current series being "better" than the original, but try and avoid using that stupid card next time.

I shouldn't even bother replying to this, but really, there's no reason for you to take this so seriously. I did say that I enjoy both series. I enjoy the new one more for the reasons I provided, and I feel a lot of the old series doesn't hold up as well as it did when I saw them as a kid. This is just my personal opinion, and I'm sorry if it offends you, but it really shouldn't. Please just accept it for what it is and move on.

[VaughnMichael]

shesh..
Anyways I enjoy them both I enjoy some episodes more than others.
I can say that I like at least one or more episodes from every version of the turtles that have been on tv and yes even the next mutation.

[Sage Ninja]

shouldn't this thread go in the general tmnt section?

I love both series very much, I like the new series for the more serious plot elements and fighting and dramatic settings. I'm also a sucker for the emphasis on the family the new series has and the close brotherly bond the turtles have with each other. I also enjoy the maturtiy of the story telling and how the plots (well at first) pushed the evelop of whats allowed in saturday cartoon programming. I also like the more ninja-esch feel of the New toon and how the the turtles seem more like they have to "live in the shadows".

However I like the classic series because it is clever and breaks away from the mold of the standard that the more "serious" mudiums of the turtles have. I like how the classic series can shuffle personal relationships, interaction and personalites with the turtles and other characters into something fresh. And even though many people might say that the old toon turtles had no depth I really disagree. Even though they where portrayed in a very light hearted way there where times of emotion and feeling from the turtles that came off as very heart warming and genuane with out being forced, that I enjoyed it all the more because it came as a suprise, since the show was mostly comedy based. I actually enjoy some times the way the OT characters act and behave a bit better than how they do in the new toon. Plus it was just funny and amusing and pure enteratainment. I don't expect anything out of it except for what it is and that why enjoy it so much even now as an adult.

[Spawn Guy]

This sounds familiar.

New Toon. It's not that I didn't like the Old Toon, it's just that the red sky stuff appealed to me more.

[Spitfire]

I love both, their totally different shows if you ask me they have nothing in common other then character names. All the characters act totally different from each other.

Honestly I like the old toon a bit more simply because the new toons comic adapted episodes let me down and with the old toon I had no expectations really. It didn't try and re-do a story that was written for adults and watered down for kids.