"Finkle is Einhorn, Einhorn is Finkle"

*VaughnMichael* · 09-26-2008, 06:43 PM

Today in an environmental post on his blog Steve Murphy admitted that he is none other than Archie TMNT Adventures writer Dean Clarrain!
http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2...and-waste.html
Dean Clarrain is Steve Murphy, Steve Murphy is Dean Clarrain!

*oldmanwinters* · 09-26-2008, 06:50 PM

Dang. Why didn't this cover get blown sooner?

BTW, Murph is pretty broken up about the environmental crisis. I know we have a big problem on our hands due to decades of human irresponsibility, but he seems absolutely devestated. That video is pretty disturbing.

*VaughnMichael* · 09-26-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Dang. Why didn't this cover get blown sooner?

BTW, Murph is pretty broken up about the environmental crisis. I know we have a big problem on our hands due to decades of human irresponsibility, but he seems absolutely devestated. That video is pretty disturbing.

Which is odd because I spoke with him earlier and he seemed fine, and yes that video is a huge wtf moment.

PAAATE · 09-26-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

but he seems absolutely devestated.

Well, he isn't the only one

**Machias Banshee** · 09-26-2008, 06:55 PM

Well dang... this was a shock.

I liked "Dean"'s drawing style, and even the storylines with the travelling to South America and all those characters..

I just hope he doesn't get suicidal on us with all this environmental stuff that he posts in his blogs..

*oldmanwinters* · 09-26-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

Well dang... this was a shock.

I liked "Dean"'s drawing style, and even the storylines with the travelling to South America and all those characters..

I just hope he doesn't get suicidal on us with all this environmental stuff that he posts in his blogs..

Amen. We need a new Mutanimals instead of despair. Get kids thinking about eco-friendliness at a young age!

*VaughnMichael* · 09-26-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

I just hope he doesn't get suicidal on us with all this environmental stuff that he posts in his blogs..

Writting style, and I'm with you I don't think he would he's to smart for that.
I hope he takes this in another direction and does something about it, killing yourself isn't doing anything.

**Jester** · 09-26-2008, 07:00 PM

As I said else where:

What a twist! It's worthy of M. Night!

and I too wish him the best...Dean's art you say, Machi?

*Roseangelo* · 09-26-2008, 07:08 PM

Come on, I can't be the only one who figured this out before today?

*oldmanwinters* · 09-26-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Come on, I can't be the only one who figured this out before today?

I'm much too naive.

Here's one other person who put the pieces together:
http://www.blogger.com/profile/04052981421298174847

From Ryan Brown's blog:
"Holy cowlick!!!!...

...

I am still a little surprised that so few people realized it before Murph «went out» with it. I myself made a few tongue-in-cheek comments about "Dean Clarrain" (on this and Murph's blog.

To be honest, the fact that Clarrain didn't own a single character from the comic he was supposed to write always bugged me, even as a kid (and who was that Murphy guy creating all the characters?!?). I didn't put too much thought into it for a long time, but when Murph started his blog, I quickly became convinced that Clarrain didn't exist at all.

Plus, you guys made a few mistakes... Like that Ninjara ad in Furrlough where Murphy & Allan were credited, instead of Clarrain & Allan. Or TMNTA #26, with edits by Murphy.

Not to mention the stylistic similarities between Murph's writing style in Puma Blues or Sons of the silent ages, and some of «Clarrain's» writing in some of TMNTA more serious issues."

*VaughnMichael* · 09-26-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Come on, I can't be the only one who figured this out before today?

I never thought about it to be honest.

**Jester** · 09-26-2008, 07:23 PM

I'm actually shocked I never put 2 and 2 together.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-26-2008, 07:26 PM

Does this mean Ryan Brown is Chris Allan, Clarrain's "Partner in Crime"?

I know both their art styles well enough to answer NO! on that one. Too bad I'm not so discerning with writing style.

But could Brown be Steve Lavigne? I don't remember Lavigne's style since he mostly does lettering.

*Roseangelo* · 09-26-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

But could Brown be Steve Lavigne? I don't remember Lavigne's style since he mostly does lettering.

No. Ryan and Steve are most definitely different people. There's endless evidence of that.

However, there's zero evidence of Dean Clarrain existing beyond the pages of Archie.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-26-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

No. Ryan and Steve are most definitely different people. There's endless evidence of that.

However, there's zero evidence of Dean Clarrain existing beyond the pages of Archie.

Yeah, I didn't really think Lavigne=Brown. I believe I have seen some of Lavigne's art. But thanks for clearing that up, Rose. I'd love to see that rare one of a kind photo of "Clarrain" that you said you have.

*Roseangelo* · 09-26-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Yeah, I didn't really think Lavigne=Brown. I believe I have seen some of Lavigne's art. But thanks for clearing that up, Rose. I'd love to see that rare one of a kind photo of "Clarrain" that you said you have.

I still have to dig out the book it's in, but I'll definitely get it posted sometime tonight. The photo looks like it's from the same photo shoot as the "Butterdog" photos Murph (and Ryan?) posted earlier this year/late last year (I ferget when exactly).

**Machias Banshee** · 09-26-2008, 07:42 PM

gahddamn computer... *throws it out the window*

Writing style, I meant... I looked back at the digests I had (#4 and 5), and the pencils were done by Ken Mitchroney. See how good my memory is...?

But all those stories... the mutated birds that put waste into the town's water, South America with Jagwar and Dreadmon, the Southern fisheries with Manray and Glublub - Maybe if Murph could talk with Mirage about doing some sort of revival of some sort (TBP? TPB?)... It'd be a small step towards Murph's original mission, even if HE may not believe there's any hope..

((Edit: Blasted typos!))

*oldmanwinters* · 09-26-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

But all those stories... the mutated birds that put waste into the town's water, South America with Manwar and Dreadmon

Manwar? You mean Jagwar?

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

Maybe if Murph could talk with Mirage about doing some sort of revival of some sort (TBP? TPB?)... It'd be a small step towards Murph's original mission, even if HE may not believe there's any hope..

I agree. I'd loved to see those characters back and fighting the good fight of environmental responsibility.

**Machias Banshee** · 09-26-2008, 07:56 PM

Yeah, Jagwar... this was the third attempt to write the post after two BSOD's...

And I think with the fervor about climate changes and cycles, there'd be a BIG market for those stories.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-26-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

Yeah, Jagwar... this was the third attempt to write the post after two BSOD's...

And I think with the fervor about climate changes and cycles, there'd be a BIG market for those stories.

Yeah, it'd sell like hot cakes. It was way ahead of its time back in the early 90s. TMNT/Mirage properties has been one of the few franchises which has pushed environmental responsibility and accountability almost almost 20 years non-stop since it's inception.

Examples:
"Turtle Tips"
Mighty Mutanimals
Conservation Corps

09-26-2008, 06:43 PM	#1
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	"Finkle is Einhorn, Einhorn is Finkle" Today in an environmental post on his blog Steve Murphy admitted that he is none other than Archie TMNT Adventures writer Dean Clarrain! http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2...and-waste.html Dean Clarrain is Steve Murphy, Steve Murphy is Dean Clarrain! Last edited by VaughnMichael; 09-26-2008 at 06:50 PM.

09-26-2008, 07:00 PM	#8
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	As I said else where: What a twist! It's worthy of M. Night! and I too wish him the best...Dean's art you say, Machi? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

09-26-2008, 07:08 PM	#9
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09-26-2008, 07:23 PM	#12
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	I'm actually shocked I never put 2 and 2 together. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

09-26-2008, 07:26 PM	#13
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,439	Does this mean Ryan Brown is Chris Allan, Clarrain's "Partner in Crime"? I know both their art styles well enough to answer NO! on that one. Too bad I'm not so discerning with writing style. But could Brown be Steve Lavigne? I don't remember Lavigne's style since he mostly does lettering. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

09-26-2008, 06:50 PM	#2
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,439	Dang. Why didn't this cover get blown sooner? BTW, Murph is pretty broken up about the environmental crisis. I know we have a big problem on our hands due to decades of human irresponsibility, but he seems absolutely devestated. That video is pretty disturbing. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

09-26-2008, 06:55 PM	#5
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Well dang... this was a shock. I liked "Dean"'s drawing style, and even the storylines with the travelling to South America and all those characters.. I just hope he doesn't get suicidal on us with all this environmental stuff that he posts in his blogs..

09-26-2008, 07:42 PM	#17
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	gahddamn computer... throws it out the window Writing style, I meant... I looked back at the digests I had (#4 and 5), and the pencils were done by Ken Mitchroney. See how good my memory is...? But all those stories... the mutated birds that put waste into the town's water, South America with Jagwar and Dreadmon, the Southern fisheries with Manray and Glublub - Maybe if Murph could talk with Mirage about doing some sort of revival of some sort (TBP? TPB?)... It'd be a small step towards Murph's original mission, even if HE may not believe there's any hope.. ((Edit: Blasted typos!))

09-26-2008, 07:56 PM	#19
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Yeah, Jagwar... this was the third attempt to write the post after two BSOD's... And I think with the fervor about climate changes and cycles, there'd be a BIG market for those stories.