Favorite Fast Forward Villain?

*Powder* · 07-20-2010, 01:08 AM

This is a pretty self-explanitory thread. Viral, Torbin Zixx, Sh'Okanabo, Darius Dunn, Jammerhead, Triple Threat, The Dark Turtles & I suppose (even though they later became good guys) The Inuwashi Gunjin- were the cast of villains.

Who do you like best & why?

My vote goes to the Dark Turtles. More often then not, the 5th (or more) turtle concept can be played out by fan fictions & other sources of media (TNM, obviously), but I liked what these guys added to the show. Each turtle got to see some of their own qualities in those they faced & the episode "DNA is Thicker than Water" showed that given the chance they weren't merely ignorant beasts. I dug the dudes.

909 Turtle Fan · 07-20-2010, 01:19 AM

jammerhead, cause he keeps it gangster.

i really like the dark turtles though, just wish they could have developed em a bit more.

*Luzmagica* · 07-20-2010, 01:47 AM

I like a lot Dark Turtles but I dont actually see them as villains..only like victims..(maybe that the reason that they become good ones....)

I had vote Torbin Zixx, I really enjoy how he manipulated the good feelings of the turtles in his own benefice!!! one and again...using the honor sense of TMNT against them!!! ...I love the chapter where it seems he sacricife his life and saves the day..

If only Raphael could put his hands on this guy for just one time!!!!

*Redeemer* · 07-20-2010, 03:43 AM

None really stick out to me I think either Dunn or sh'kinabo and yes I butchered it!LOL
and poweder nobody but u would start a thread at 3 in the morning. ROFL

*Luzmagica* · 07-20-2010, 04:07 AM

^ 3 in the morning???? Wow...for me its 12.00 am right now... sometimes I forget the horary diference!!! ...

*Powder* · 07-20-2010, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeemer

None really stick out to me I think either Dunn or sh'kinabo and yes I butchered it!LOL
and poweder nobody but u would start a thread at 3 in the morning. ROFL

Lol well I'm an insomniac of sorts.
I usually wake up at 4PM & go to bed at 8AM.

*Redeemer* · 07-20-2010, 05:05 AM

Powder! The turtle of the night!

*Cipher* · 07-20-2010, 11:02 AM

Finally an actual discussion thread back on this board.

Anyway, this is tough. I loved Fast Forward's rogues gallery; one of the few times in any version of TMNT where that was a selling point.

I liked Viral a lot when it looked like she was destined for bigger things in Back to the Sewer, but we know how that ended up. Oh well. Sh'Okanabo was a suitably creepy villain, and I enjoyed all his appearances. I also really enjoyed Jammerhead. He started out as a fairly standard gangster, but his later episodes, especially "Body Jackers" won me over.

But the best? Torbin Zixx and Zukko, no questions. A hilariously duplicitous mercenary and a Triceraton mob boss? Yes please. More of these two. Zukko gets no love. Triple Threat got onto the poll while he was left off?

*Ninjinister* · 07-20-2010, 12:56 PM

Triple Threat should have been on the list due to the fact that he's a villain. The Gunjin? Not a chance. The only time they were antagonistic was in their first appearance, and that's just because they were forced into it by Darius. They became friends with the Turtles after that.

*Turo602* · 07-20-2010, 04:01 PM

It's a tie between Torbin Zixx, Dark TMNT, and Sh'Okonabo. But I chose The Dark Turtles, four in one.

*BubblyShell22* · 07-20-2010, 04:37 PM

The Dark Turtles were the best villains for me. "DNA Is Thicker Than Water" really showed their potential and was a turning point for Dark Leo as well. Darius comes in second, but the others just weren't that good.

*Spitfire* · 07-20-2010, 05:15 PM

Shoko was my favorite. Just the idea behind him was awesome. He didn't get to fully implement his plan but it made for some of the best episodes of the season. I did like the entire rogues gallery though.

Also IMO the Gunjin were not villains. They had no control over their actions. It's also hard to consider Zixx a villain. I look at him as more of a Han Solo type.

*Eiko* · 07-20-2010, 05:26 PM

The Dark Turtles are my fav no idea why really guess they just look pretty cool. I didn't really like Fast forward that much.

*shuriken* · 07-20-2010, 07:32 PM

I liked the idea of the TMNT having Dark clones that had similar personalities but were ya know evil. I think there was a lot of wasted potential there though because it would have been cool for them to have a more similar body and build to the real TMNT and not be different colors( I know the TMNT were different shades of green but purple, red, yellow and blue green turtles just seemed s bit lame) as well as giving them similar weapons. Dark Don was also not given much air time as opposed to Dark Mikey and Dark Leo. Zixx wasn't a villain so much as a guy who helped or hurt the TMNT depending on how it suited his interests. Shoko was a close second. Never realy like Jammerhead or Triple threat though, always saw those two as strictly filler.

*Scandia* · 07-20-2010, 07:58 PM

I put the Dark Turtles because at least Dark Leo is dynamic. Most of the FF villains are one-dimensional.

**Venom** · 07-20-2010, 09:55 PM

Was Torbin Zixx really a bad guy? He seemed to walk the fine line of moral ambiguity; more of an anti-hero of sorts, rather than flat-out villainy.

*Cipher* · 07-21-2010, 12:12 AM

Zixx was a villain in that he was a member of the Turtles' rogues gallery. Regardless of his motives, he played the Turtles' antagonist every single time they interacted.

The Gunjin weren't really villains though. Zukko was. Get Zukko the hell up there.

*Icebot* · 07-21-2010, 01:54 PM

I chose Torbin Zixx. He was always unpredictable and really knew how to trick the turtles.

*Jephael* · 07-21-2010, 07:02 PM

I loved Jammerhead and his band of phantoms!

Vivi · 07-22-2010, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cipher

But the best? Torbin Zixx and Zukko, no questions. A hilariously duplicitous mercenary and a Triceraton mob boss? Yes please. More of these two. Zukko gets no love. Triple Threat got onto the poll while he was left off?

Agreed. Zixx got my top vote. His are the best episodes of the season, and contenders for the series.

View Poll Results: Who's your favorite Fast Forward villain?
Viral	2	7.69%
Sh'Okanabo	4	15.38%
Torbin Zixx	5	19.23%
The Dark Turtles	10	38.46%
Jammerhead	3	11.54%
Darius Dunn	2	7.69%
The Inuwashi Gunjin	0	0%
Triple Threat	0	0%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

07-20-2010, 01:08 AM	#1
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Favorite Fast Forward Villain? This is a pretty self-explanitory thread. Viral, Torbin Zixx, Sh'Okanabo, Darius Dunn, Jammerhead, Triple Threat, The Dark Turtles & I suppose (even though they later became good guys) The Inuwashi Gunjin- were the cast of villains. Who do you like best & why? My vote goes to the Dark Turtles. More often then not, the 5th (or more) turtle concept can be played out by fan fictions & other sources of media (TNM, obviously), but I liked what these guys added to the show. Each turtle got to see some of their own qualities in those they faced & the episode "DNA is Thicker than Water" showed that given the chance they weren't merely ignorant beasts. I dug the dudes.

07-20-2010, 01:47 AM	#3
Luzmagica A Magic Light Dudette! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Spain. Posts: 3,878	I like a lot Dark Turtles but I dont actually see them as villains..only like victims..(maybe that the reason that they become good ones....) I had vote Torbin Zixx, I really enjoy how he manipulated the good feelings of the turtles in his own benefice!!! one and again...using the honor sense of TMNT against them!!! ...I love the chapter where it seems he sacricife his life and saves the day.. If only Raphael could put his hands on this guy for just one time!!!! __________________

07-20-2010, 03:43 AM	#4
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	None really stick out to me I think either Dunn or sh'kinabo and yes I butchered it!LOL and poweder nobody but u would start a thread at 3 in the morning. ROFL __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

07-20-2010, 04:07 AM	#5
Luzmagica A Magic Light Dudette! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Spain. Posts: 3,878	^ 3 in the morning???? Wow...for me its 12.00 am right now... sometimes I forget the horary diference!!! ... __________________

07-20-2010, 01:19 AM	#2
909 Turtle Fan Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2008 Location: Eastbound & Down Posts: 477	jammerhead, cause he keeps it gangster. i really like the dark turtles though, just wish they could have developed em a bit more.

07-20-2010, 05:05 AM	#7
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Powder! The turtle of the night! __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

07-20-2010, 11:02 AM	#8
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	Finally an actual discussion thread back on this board. Anyway, this is tough. I loved Fast Forward's rogues gallery; one of the few times in any version of TMNT where that was a selling point. I liked Viral a lot when it looked like she was destined for bigger things in Back to the Sewer, but we know how that ended up. Oh well. Sh'Okanabo was a suitably creepy villain, and I enjoyed all his appearances. I also really enjoyed Jammerhead. He started out as a fairly standard gangster, but his later episodes, especially "Body Jackers" won me over. But the best? Torbin Zixx and Zukko, no questions. A hilariously duplicitous mercenary and a Triceraton mob boss? Yes please. More of these two. Zukko gets no love. Triple Threat got onto the poll while he was left off?

07-20-2010, 12:56 PM	#9
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Triple Threat should have been on the list due to the fact that he's a villain. The Gunjin? Not a chance. The only time they were antagonistic was in their first appearance, and that's just because they were forced into it by Darius. They became friends with the Turtles after that. __________________

07-20-2010, 04:01 PM	#10
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	It's a tie between Torbin Zixx, Dark TMNT, and Sh'Okonabo. But I chose The Dark Turtles, four in one. __________________

07-20-2010, 04:37 PM	#11
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	The Dark Turtles were the best villains for me. "DNA Is Thicker Than Water" really showed their potential and was a turning point for Dark Leo as well. Darius comes in second, but the others just weren't that good. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

07-20-2010, 05:15 PM	#12
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Shoko was my favorite. Just the idea behind him was awesome. He didn't get to fully implement his plan but it made for some of the best episodes of the season. I did like the entire rogues gallery though. Also IMO the Gunjin were not villains. They had no control over their actions. It's also hard to consider Zixx a villain. I look at him as more of a Han Solo type. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

07-20-2010, 05:26 PM	#13
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	The Dark Turtles are my fav no idea why really guess they just look pretty cool. I didn't really like Fast forward that much. __________________

07-20-2010, 07:32 PM	#14
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	I liked the idea of the TMNT having Dark clones that had similar personalities but were ya know evil. I think there was a lot of wasted potential there though because it would have been cool for them to have a more similar body and build to the real TMNT and not be different colors( I know the TMNT were different shades of green but purple, red, yellow and blue green turtles just seemed s bit lame) as well as giving them similar weapons. Dark Don was also not given much air time as opposed to Dark Mikey and Dark Leo. Zixx wasn't a villain so much as a guy who helped or hurt the TMNT depending on how it suited his interests. Shoko was a close second. Never realy like Jammerhead or Triple threat though, always saw those two as strictly filler. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

07-20-2010, 07:58 PM	#15
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I put the Dark Turtles because at least Dark Leo is dynamic. Most of the FF villains are one-dimensional. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

07-20-2010, 09:55 PM	#16
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Was Torbin Zixx really a bad guy? He seemed to walk the fine line of moral ambiguity; more of an anti-hero of sorts, rather than flat-out villainy.

07-21-2010, 12:12 AM	#17
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	Zixx was a villain in that he was a member of the Turtles' rogues gallery. Regardless of his motives, he played the Turtles' antagonist every single time they interacted. The Gunjin weren't really villains though. Zukko was. Get Zukko the hell up there.

07-21-2010, 01:54 PM	#18
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	I chose Torbin Zixx. He was always unpredictable and really knew how to trick the turtles.

07-21-2010, 07:02 PM	#19
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I loved Jammerhead and his band of phantoms! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988