Did 2K3 borrow from Mirage Vol. 4?

*gobo* · 05-31-2011, 07:57 PM

Or was it the other way around? The concepts that weren't in the franchise before the 4kids series, were they in 2K3 or Mirage Vol. 4 first? Aside from asking Laird directly, this is the best way to determine the answer.

*Revan* · 05-31-2011, 08:32 PM

The big brawl aired may 15 2004 and Leo visited the battle nexus in vol 4 in 2005.

I would say vol 4 borrowed the battle nexus from the 4kids series. Though vol 4's version of the nexus is a bit confusing

And I remember reading one of PL's replies in vol 4 regarding vol 4's version of the nexus and the 4kids version. I think PL specifically said vol 4's version has some subtle differences. Though we probably won't ever get a conclusion to the mystery behind Splinter's presence there

FearlessLeader · 05-31-2011, 09:31 PM

Considering how creatively involved Peter was with the 2k3 series it wouldn't surprise me to see that he planned things to correspond at times. For the Battle Nexus, he has said in a couple of different interviews or around his blogs, (as I often don't recall where I read/see things) how much he enjoyed that arc in the TV series so the fact it made it's way into the comic doesn't surprise me.

k_lala · 06-01-2011, 07:35 AM

Didn't Vol 4 also focus on an older set of turtles? Like in their 30's?

*Revan* · 06-01-2011, 07:53 AM

Yes, many years have passed between volume 2 and volume 4. They are no longer teenagers. I think I remember one of the turtles comment that fighting isn't as easy as it used to be. However, the triceratons later comment that Mike is possibly a better fighter than he was as a teenager. I got mixed messages from PL regarding their physical conditioning but they all still seem quite capable.

The turtles are much older and apart for most of volume 4 off each having a separate adventure. Raph, Don, and Leo meet up briefly towards the "end" but Mike has yet to return

*gobo* · 06-30-2011, 10:03 AM

Aha! Raptarr! That's what inspired me to make this thread. He was in volume 4 before he was in the show. So, my question was: which borrowed from the other first? And, I'm only concerned with V4, not the previous Volumes. Otherwise, you could say it got its main characters from V1.

*CyberCubed* · 06-30-2011, 11:01 AM

PL put the Battle Nexus in Vol. 4 because he liked it in the 4kids cartoon, so it originated there first.

However I do think the aliens walking around in Fast Forward on Earth might have been influenced by Vol. 4. Perhaps PL suggested that.

*PizzaPower* · 07-01-2011, 09:19 AM

yea peter laird has this weird thing with monsters, lol.

*gobo* · 07-01-2011, 09:52 AM

Can I get some confirmation that the winged guy in issue (I think it was) 2 was actually Raptarr or at least a prototype?

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 07-01-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Can I get some confirmation that the winged guy in issue (I think it was) 2 was actually Raptarr or at least a prototype?

What do you mean?

*gobo* · 07-01-2011, 12:37 PM

The 'angel' that saved Mikey.

FearlessLeader · 07-01-2011, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobo

Can I get some confirmation that the winged guy in issue (I think it was) 2 was actually Raptarr or at least a prototype?

Well they refer to him as Raptarr in the comics, is that what you mean? I don't believe he is ever given a back story the same as the character on the 4Kids show. In the comic we just know he is a winged super hero.

05-31-2011, 07:57 PM	#1
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Did 2K3 borrow from Mirage Vol. 4? Or was it the other way around? The concepts that weren't in the franchise before the 4kids series, were they in 2K3 or Mirage Vol. 4 first? Aside from asking Laird directly, this is the best way to determine the answer. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

05-31-2011, 08:32 PM	#2
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	The big brawl aired may 15 2004 and Leo visited the battle nexus in vol 4 in 2005. I would say vol 4 borrowed the battle nexus from the 4kids series. Though vol 4's version of the nexus is a bit confusing And I remember reading one of PL's replies in vol 4 regarding vol 4's version of the nexus and the 4kids version. I think PL specifically said vol 4's version has some subtle differences. Though we probably won't ever get a conclusion to the mystery behind Splinter's presence there __________________

05-31-2011, 09:31 PM	#3
FearlessLeader Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Watching Space Heroes Posts: 1,048	Considering how creatively involved Peter was with the 2k3 series it wouldn't surprise me to see that he planned things to correspond at times. For the Battle Nexus, he has said in a couple of different interviews or around his blogs, (as I often don't recall where I read/see things) how much he enjoyed that arc in the TV series so the fact it made it's way into the comic doesn't surprise me. __________________ Artwork by Jim Lawson

06-01-2011, 07:53 AM	#5
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Yes, many years have passed between volume 2 and volume 4. They are no longer teenagers. I think I remember one of the turtles comment that fighting isn't as easy as it used to be. However, the triceratons later comment that Mike is possibly a better fighter than he was as a teenager. I got mixed messages from PL regarding their physical conditioning but they all still seem quite capable. The turtles are much older and apart for most of volume 4 off each having a separate adventure. Raph, Don, and Leo meet up briefly towards the "end" but Mike has yet to return __________________

06-30-2011, 10:03 AM	#6
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Aha! Raptarr! That's what inspired me to make this thread. He was in volume 4 before he was in the show. So, my question was: which borrowed from the other first? And, I'm only concerned with V4, not the previous Volumes. Otherwise, you could say it got its main characters from V1. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

06-01-2011, 07:35 AM	#4
k_lala Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 413	Didn't Vol 4 also focus on an older set of turtles? Like in their 30's?

06-30-2011, 11:01 AM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,804	PL put the Battle Nexus in Vol. 4 because he liked it in the 4kids cartoon, so it originated there first. However I do think the aliens walking around in Fast Forward on Earth might have been influenced by Vol. 4. Perhaps PL suggested that.

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PizzaPower Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pizza Parlor Posts: 3,200	yea peter laird has this weird thing with monsters, lol. __________________ https://www.twitch.tv/turtlepizzapower

07-01-2011, 09:52 AM	#9
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Can I get some confirmation that the winged guy in issue (I think it was) 2 was actually Raptarr or at least a prototype? __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-01-2011, 12:37 PM	#11
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	The 'angel' that saved Mikey. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.