Do you think the rating affected the show at all?

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 08-29-2011, 01:34 PM

I'm assuming the way that TMNT got it's TV-Y7-FV rating is because it was required to have that rating to air on FoxBox/KidsWB/CW4Kids on Saturday mornings. But if 4Kids had allowed it to get a higher rating, do you think this would have affected the show's general tone? Maybe a bit of cursing here and there. I for one would have replaced "shell" with "hell" in "Everything's going to shell!" sometimes. Maybe an overall darker tone of the show would have been used.

So, the question is: do you think if the show had been giver a higher rating (TV-PG, maybe) it would have been affected much in terms of tone and dialogue? And would you find the show as enjoyable if it took advantage of a higher rating by adding more violence or language?

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2011, 04:16 PM

The FCC don't allow Saturday morning cartoons to have a rating higher than Y7.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 08-29-2011, 05:25 PM

I figured it worked something like that. But just pretend the FCC could have let it slide for TMNT.

~~ABrown~~ · 08-29-2011, 06:21 PM

I was kinda shocked in one episode. I want to say that it might've been "Tales Of Leo." I think Mikey threw out a "It sucks being cold blooded."

I think the 2003 TMNT cartoon was easily good enough that it could've gotten prime time exposure. I remember Cartoon Network had it for a while. I could've seen it airing Saturday nights with the 2002 He-Man and Justice League/Justice League Unlimited.

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

I was kinda shocked in one episode. I want to say that it might've been "Tales Of Leo." I think Mikey threw out a "It sucks being cold blooded."

What's the big deal with that line?

*ToTheNines* · 08-29-2011, 09:00 PM

"Sucks" is kinda crass. You don't hear it on Jimmy Neutron.

Shreddhead · 08-29-2011, 09:14 PM

I agree about the "shell" lines. I get it, theyre turtles. that doesnt mean i wanna hear it every other episode. I dont mind it ever now and then, but i swear it got to a point where it really felt forced.

I would have loved to see a more mature version, but compared to what i remember aired along with it( various sonic incarnations and ultimate muscle) it was way above average.

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

"Sucks" is kinda crass. You don't hear it on Jimmy Neutron.

Meh, in today's world "sucks" is so tame. Its definitely not associated with what it once was decades ago.

~~ABrown~~ · 08-30-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What's the big deal with that line? in today's world "sucks" is so tame. Its definitely not associated with what it once was decades ago.

Personally, I was ok with it. But I could see some parents being upset hearing it on a Saturday morning cartoon.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 08-30-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shreddhead

I dont mind it ever now and then, but i swear it got to a point where it really felt forced.

Hun's occasional "Ah, crud." seemed forced in some cases too. Like when in SaiNW when he and Stockman were stepped on, and in Season 5 when the Tengu Shredder picked him up.

*Revan* · 08-30-2011, 01:25 PM

I always liked the "ah, crud" line. It felt more like legitimate comic relief than a way to express profane emotion to me.

*ToTheNines* · 08-30-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Meh, in today's world "sucks" is so tame. Its definitely not associated with what it once was decades ago.

Most people have become desensitized when it comes to the word, but it still comes from "sucks dick".

*CyberCubed* · 08-30-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Most people have become desensitized when it comes to the word, but it still comes from "sucks dick".

Even when I was a kid everyone meant sucks as "you're bad at something."

*ToTheNines* · 08-30-2011, 04:29 PM

Well yeah, but saying "Lebron James sucks" is the same as saying "Lebron James sucks dick". So "sucks" is an abbreviation.

The Big Bad · 08-30-2011, 06:12 PM

Hard to say. The few TV-PG-rated American cartoons that have been produced in the last year or two don't really seem go beyond what was shown in Seasons 3 to 5 of TMNT, and the various things which I think should have been changed, if possible--first and foremost the various restrictions around the words "death", "kill", and their variants--really had more to do with what 4Kids would allow than with the rating. In any case, any changes would have probably been very minor.

*Xav* · 08-31-2011, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The FCC don't allow Saturday morning cartoons to have a rating higher than Y7.

So how is Cartoon Network able to air Generator Rex, Sym-Bionic Titan, and the Clone Wars on saturday morning? All those shows have a TVPG rating.

*Slap-Happy* · 08-31-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav

So how is Cartoon Network able to air Generator Rex, Sym-Bionic Titan, and the Clone Wars on saturday morning? All those shows have a TVPG rating.

Well, it's a cable network.

~~ABrown~~ · 08-31-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav

So how is Cartoon Network able to air Generator Rex, Sym-Bionic Titan, and the Clone Wars on saturday morning? All those shows have a TVPG rating.

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer

Well, it's a cable network.

I'm pretty sure that cable has different rules than the ABC, NBC, CBS's, etc.

08-29-2011, 09:14 PM	#7
Shreddhead Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,470	I agree about the "shell" lines. I get it, theyre turtles. that doesnt mean i wanna hear it every other episode. I dont mind it ever now and then, but i swear it got to a point where it really felt forced. I would have loved to see a more mature version, but compared to what i remember aired along with it( various sonic incarnations and ultimate muscle) it was way above average. __________________

08-30-2011, 01:25 PM	#11
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	I always liked the "ah, crud" line. It felt more like legitimate comic relief than a way to express profane emotion to me. __________________

08-30-2011, 04:29 PM	#14
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,211	Well yeah, but saying "Lebron James sucks" is the same as saying "Lebron James sucks dick". So "sucks" is an abbreviation. Last edited by ToTheNines; 08-30-2011 at 04:37 PM.

08-30-2011, 06:12 PM	#15
The Big Bad Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 653	Hard to say. The few TV-PG-rated American cartoons that have been produced in the last year or two don't really seem go beyond what was shown in Seasons 3 to 5 of TMNT, and the various things which I think should have been changed, if possible--first and foremost the various restrictions around the words "death", "kill", and their variants--really had more to do with what 4Kids would allow than with the rating. In any case, any changes would have probably been very minor. __________________ Monsters of New York, my TMNT/Gargoyles Blog Avatar artwork by Madseason. Previous avatar artwork by Lorna-ka.

08-29-2011, 04:16 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,795	The FCC don't allow Saturday morning cartoons to have a rating higher than Y7.

08-29-2011, 06:21 PM	#4
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	I was kinda shocked in one episode. I want to say that it might've been "Tales Of Leo." I think Mikey threw out a "It sucks being cold blooded." I think the 2003 TMNT cartoon was easily good enough that it could've gotten prime time exposure. I remember Cartoon Network had it for a while. I could've seen it airing Saturday nights with the 2002 He-Man and Justice League/Justice League Unlimited.

08-29-2011, 09:00 PM	#6
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,211	"Sucks" is kinda crass. You don't hear it on Jimmy Neutron.