Proper endings if had that been the final episode

*pannoni1* · 11-29-2011, 05:28 AM

Similar to what is being discussed on the General forum, let's describe some places in the 4kids series where had that been the final episode, it would still have been a fitting end to the series. My choices are:

1. Return to New York, Part 3- Ends with the Shredder killed, The Foot Headquarters destroyed, and the Foot Clan disorganized.
2. Exodus, Part 2- Ends with defeat of the Shredder in space, and given the next episode's intro stated "We Shredded Shredder!", it would have been a fitting finale.
3. Enter The Dragons, Part 2- Ends with defeat of the Shredder and would had been great not realizing there was FF and BTTS.

*ToTheNines* · 11-29-2011, 08:58 AM

1. Absolutely not, Splinter was still missing at the end of the episode.

2. Yes. There was a few loose plot lines, but that one would have been a fine finale (glad it wasn't though lol).

3. Fair enough, except I really liked Fast Forward and a small handful of BttS episodes. Plus there was the one Turtles Forever thingy... remember?

~~ABrown~~ · 11-29-2011, 09:26 AM

Enter The Dragons or Turtles Forever were both very good ways to end the show. Exodus or Wedding Bells And Bytes both could've worked, but they weren't quite as good as ETD or TF.

*gobo* · 11-29-2011, 09:58 AM

"The Shredder Wars" Part Thirteen

*CyberCubed* · 11-29-2011, 12:21 PM

The series could have easily ended at the end of Season 3, or Season 5.

Those are really the only two big stopping points that could have been viewed as the ending.

*Icebot* · 11-29-2011, 03:05 PM

I think Secret Origins would work too. The Utroms finally go home after 1,000 years, the Shredder's secret is revealed, he is supposedly destroyed when the TCRI building implodes.

I don't know about Turtles Forever since the turtles lost their lair again and didn't get a new one.

Definitely Exodus and Enter The Dragons.

k_lala · 11-30-2011, 06:57 PM

the end of Ninja Tribunal was the perfect ending. Everything after that other than the movie we can forget that happened.

Hermano Dyvas · 12-11-2011, 03:46 PM

Even though I'm not a big fan of the ninja tribunal season I always felt it's final episode worked great as a series finale.

I'm gonna go on a limb here though and say I actually liked fast forward, especially the later episodes.

I would've prefered a second season of it wrapping up the dark turtles and Darius Dun over Btts any day.

Did they ever wrap up their stories in those UK fast forward comics anyway?

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 12-11-2011, 06:12 PM

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Did they ever wrap up their stories in those UK fast forward comics anyway?

Huh? Comics? What the hey are you talking about?

*Spitfire* · 12-12-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Huh? Comics? What the hey are you talking about?

In the UK there was a TMNT magazine that had a FF comic in it. I have a few issues of it.

I wouldn't call TF an ending for 2K3. It doesn't really fit into any set continuity for the 2K3 turtles. Couldn't be during BTTS because Splinter is missing, can't be during FF because they're in the future, and it couldn't really be during S4 because they didn't have that lair yet.

Anyways I think besides "Enter The Dragons", "Tale of Master Yoshi" would have made a good series closer. Maybe a little bit of restructuring would be necessary. Wouldn't have been the most awesome explosive ending but if placed after a huge event it could have worked well.

Hermano Dyvas · 12-12-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

In the UK there was a TMNT magazine that had a FF comic in it. I have a few issues of it.

Exactly

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

I wouldn't call TF an ending for 2K3. It doesn't really fit into any set continuity for the 2K3 turtles. Couldn't be during BTTS because Splinter is missing, can't be during FF because they're in the future, and it couldn't really be during S4 because they didn't have that lair yet.

It fits right after BTTS ended though.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-13-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

In the UK there was a TMNT magazine that had a FF comic in it. I have a few issues of it.

I wouldn't call TF an ending for 2K3. It doesn't really fit into any set continuity for the 2K3 turtles.

What the f*ck are you talking about? It's clearly set straight after BTTS, and Splitner was succesfully recovered before the finale of that season.

*Spitfire* · 12-13-2011, 01:28 PM

I don't see how that is. Serling was living with them, as I recall he's used to defeat Cyber Shredder. I guess you could assume he went back with Cody but it was never addressed. Also if it takes place after BTTS why is it Karai who saves Shredder and not Khan? Khan was the one running the Foot in Shredder's stead at that point not Karai.

*CyberCubed* · 12-13-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

I don't see how that is. Serling was living with them, as I recall he's used to defeat Cyber Shredder. I guess you could assume he went back with Cody but it was never addressed. Also if it takes place after BTTS why is it Karai who saves Shredder and not Khan? Khan was the one running the Foot in Shredder's stead at that point not Karai.

Its pretty obvious Serling when back to the future in between the span. They obviously didn't want to take up time out of the movie to show a detail like that. Cody was shown watching April/Casey's wedding in the finale.

Khan was also arrested at the end of BTTS when Silver Sentry rounded him up.

I think you're the only person to claim it doesn't fit in after the end of BTTS.

*Spitfire* · 12-13-2011, 02:32 PM

Characters being arrested has hardly ever stopped them in any cartoon. Either way TF to me exists in it's own timeline that pulls from the parts of continuity it needs to in order for the story to play out. It takes place during the first season of the OT and yet is never mentioned in the OT, for obvious reasons. It takes place during the first issue of the Mirage comic yet is never mentioned again in it, for obvious reasons. Pretty big event to never be spoken of again. So why should it have a set place in the 2K3 continuity either?

*CyberCubed* · 12-13-2011, 02:50 PM

OK. Its pretty much common sense to everyone else that it takes place after BTTS and acts as the series finale.

*ToTheNines* · 12-13-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

Characters being arrested has hardly ever stopped them in any cartoon. Either way TF to me exists in it's own timeline that pulls from the parts of continuity it needs to in order for the story to play out. It takes place during the first season of the OT and yet is never mentioned in the OT, for obvious reasons. It takes place during the first issue of the Mirage comic yet is never mentioned again in it, for obvious reasons. Pretty big event to never be spoken of again. So why should it have a set place in the 2K3 continuity either?

What are you smoking dude? You can't just say Khan wasn't wrapped up because of a TV trope. Not only are all your points out of left field, literally no one else agrees with you.

On top of all that, how in the hell does it take place during the first season of the OT? I know there's plenty of references to that season, but it takes place mid-season 3 at the absolute earliest (probably later). I mean, there's the "scent analyzer" from season three, the quote of "we battle Shred-head over that stuff all the time", the exploding throwing stars from season two, and the lair they're in is the one from after season 2.

*Spitfire* · 12-13-2011, 06:49 PM

They're referred to as the 1988 turtles in the credits, so season 1/2. The fact things from later seasons show up further proves my point it takes place in no set continuity for any of the 3 series. You can try and place it if you want I just don't see a logical way to do so given what I mentioned before. I doubt the creators had a place in mind for it either. They're not even done in the BTTS style. It's its own thing.

If to you it's the finale for the 2K3 series then cool, to me it doesn't work. If that view bothers you so much then that's really quite sad.

*CyberCubed* · 12-13-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

If to you it's the finale for the 2K3 series then cool, to me it doesn't work. If that view bothers you so much then that's really quite sad.

I don't think it bothers him, its just that this logic (at least in regards to where it takes place in the 4kids universe), is ridiculous.

Back in 2009 when the movie came out, I didn't see any "confusion" from fans as to where it took place in the 4kids universe. The fact that in the nearly 3 years that this movie existed, you're the only one to try and claim its not in continuity after BTTS is absurd.

I honestly wonder if you're even being serious here, it almost sounds like subtle trolling.

*Spitfire* · 12-13-2011, 07:22 PM

I just rewatched it recently and I have a different view on it. It's not confusion on my part. I know exactly what I'm saying and it makes perfect sense. I see it more as a finale for 25 years of TMNT owned by Mirage, not 2K3. The 2K3 series ended when BTTS did. This movie was a little bonus made by the creators for fans of turtles as a whole not as just part of 2K3.

11-29-2011, 05:28 AM	#1
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	Proper endings if had that been the final episode Similar to what is being discussed on the General forum, let's describe some places in the 4kids series where had that been the final episode, it would still have been a fitting end to the series. My choices are: 1. Return to New York, Part 3- Ends with the Shredder killed, The Foot Headquarters destroyed, and the Foot Clan disorganized. 2. Exodus, Part 2- Ends with defeat of the Shredder in space, and given the next episode's intro stated "We Shredded Shredder!", it would have been a fitting finale. 3. Enter The Dragons, Part 2- Ends with defeat of the Shredder and would had been great not realizing there was FF and BTTS. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

11-29-2011, 09:58 AM	#4
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12-13-2011, 01:28 PM	#13
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I don't see how that is. Serling was living with them, as I recall he's used to defeat Cyber Shredder. I guess you could assume he went back with Cody but it was never addressed. Also if it takes place after BTTS why is it Karai who saves Shredder and not Khan? Khan was the one running the Foot in Shredder's stead at that point not Karai. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

12-13-2011, 02:32 PM	#15
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Characters being arrested has hardly ever stopped them in any cartoon. Either way TF to me exists in it's own timeline that pulls from the parts of continuity it needs to in order for the story to play out. It takes place during the first season of the OT and yet is never mentioned in the OT, for obvious reasons. It takes place during the first issue of the Mirage comic yet is never mentioned again in it, for obvious reasons. Pretty big event to never be spoken of again. So why should it have a set place in the 2K3 continuity either? __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

12-13-2011, 06:49 PM	#18
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	They're referred to as the 1988 turtles in the credits, so season 1/2. The fact things from later seasons show up further proves my point it takes place in no set continuity for any of the 3 series. You can try and place it if you want I just don't see a logical way to do so given what I mentioned before. I doubt the creators had a place in mind for it either. They're not even done in the BTTS style. It's its own thing. If to you it's the finale for the 2K3 series then cool, to me it doesn't work. If that view bothers you so much then that's really quite sad. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

11-29-2011, 08:58 AM	#2
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,227	1. Absolutely not, Splinter was still missing at the end of the episode. 2. Yes. There was a few loose plot lines, but that one would have been a fine finale (glad it wasn't though lol). 3. Fair enough, except I really liked Fast Forward and a small handful of BttS episodes. Plus there was the one Turtles Forever thingy... remember?

11-29-2011, 09:26 AM	#3
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	Enter The Dragons or Turtles Forever were both very good ways to end the show. Exodus or Wedding Bells And Bytes both could've worked, but they weren't quite as good as ETD or TF.

11-29-2011, 12:21 PM	#5
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,814	The series could have easily ended at the end of Season 3, or Season 5. Those are really the only two big stopping points that could have been viewed as the ending.

11-29-2011, 03:05 PM	#6
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	I think Secret Origins would work too. The Utroms finally go home after 1,000 years, the Shredder's secret is revealed, he is supposedly destroyed when the TCRI building implodes. I don't know about Turtles Forever since the turtles lost their lair again and didn't get a new one. Definitely Exodus and Enter The Dragons.

11-30-2011, 06:57 PM	#7
k_lala Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 413	the end of Ninja Tribunal was the perfect ending. Everything after that other than the movie we can forget that happened.

12-11-2011, 03:46 PM	#8
Hermano Dyvas Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 355	Even though I'm not a big fan of the ninja tribunal season I always felt it's final episode worked great as a series finale. I'm gonna go on a limb here though and say I actually liked fast forward, especially the later episodes. I would've prefered a second season of it wrapping up the dark turtles and Darius Dun over Btts any day. Did they ever wrap up their stories in those UK fast forward comics anyway?

12-13-2011, 02:50 PM	#16
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,814	OK. Its pretty much common sense to everyone else that it takes place after BTTS and acts as the series finale.

12-13-2011, 07:22 PM	#20
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I just rewatched it recently and I have a different view on it. It's not confusion on my part. I know exactly what I'm saying and it makes perfect sense. I see it more as a finale for 25 years of TMNT owned by Mirage, not 2K3. The 2K3 series ended when BTTS did. This movie was a little bonus made by the creators for fans of turtles as a whole not as just part of 2K3. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/