When Shredder says "I am your father" in the first movie

*CyberCubed* · 01-08-2012, 09:31 AM

When we see Shredder for the first time talking to all the kids he says, "You are here because the outside world rejects you. This is your family now. I am your father."

Did anyone else think he sounds like Darth Vader when he said that line? Was it an intentional homage?

Metropoliskid41 · 01-08-2012, 09:38 AM

Yeah I actually just rewatched the first movie last night and that instantly popped into my head as well. I think it could be an homage, I mean he's wearing a big metal helmet while he says it, its hard not to see the similarities

*Donnie* · 01-08-2012, 09:45 AM

I actually never drew the comparison because I saw Turtles way before I ever watched Star Wars. So to this day I don't make the connection. However, I have a feeling it was somewhat intentional - isn't Laird a Star Wars fan? Plus it's hard to escape the link when anybody says that line, haha!

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-08-2012, 11:40 AM

There is a youtube video suggesting that. I never made the connection even after I was the clip while I can see why others would and I doubt it was a reference to Star Wars. I don't know about Star Wars,but Peter is a big Star Trek fan.

rufus · 01-08-2012, 12:29 PM

He mentioned once on one of his blogs that he was a fan of Yoda. http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2009/...taun-taun.html I always to the "I am your father" Line as him furthering his grasp on the disillusioned and runaway kids that we see makes up a portion of his criminal empire.

*ToTheNines* · 01-08-2012, 01:58 PM

Yeah, the movie had a pretty strong family theme going on. It's necessary dialogue if you ask me.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-08-2012, 02:04 PM

Yes, there was definitely a conscious effort to "Vader him up" with the Shredder.

*Redeemer* · 01-09-2012, 09:59 AM

lol never even made the connection

~~AquaParade~~ · 01-09-2012, 10:48 AM

I'm a little surprised I never caught that, although I'm not a huge Star Wars fan.

Love the way they do the foot clan in the first film. I like legit ninja's too, but the way Steve Baron integrated the New York youth into the picture was really done and fitting with the themes of the movie.

*sdp* · 01-09-2012, 01:13 PM

The OT and 2k3 are also filled with references to SW's, they're usually done very well too.

*gobo* · 01-09-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp

The OT and 2k3 are also filled with references to SW's, they're usually done very well too.

Got any examples for the OT? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Trek: check. Wars? Not so much.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-09-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Got any examples for the OT?

There is the small matter of them kind of James Earl Jonesing Shredder for the Fred Wolf cartoon. Wonder where they got that idea.

*BubblyShell22* · 01-09-2012, 03:52 PM

I never really made the connection before, but now I sort of do. Then again, I just figured that he was trying to disguise the Foot as a family for kids who didn't have good relationships with their own families. He took in kids who felt they didn't have a family and tried to make the Foot into one, but it wasn't.

Shreddhead · 01-09-2012, 07:11 PM

Im a pretty big star wars fan, and i picked up on this the first time I ever saw the first turtles movie. Not sure if its an homage or just a line that ended up sounding a lot like its predecessor. But as a kid, i thought of Vader immediately when i saw the movie shredder.

someone put this voice/ image comparison up on youtube. pretty similar if you ask me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChdabkaQCk

*sdp* · 01-10-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Got any examples for the OT? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Trek: check. Wars? Not so much.

There's definitely a few, only one I can remember off the top of my head I think it's from the 5 part pilot a bunch of scenes reek of the Death Star including the Splinter/Shredder duel, it doesn't seem like a rip-off but a very well done homage.

*ToTheNines* · 01-10-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Got any examples for the OT? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Trek: check. Wars? Not so much.

"Return of The Technodrome" had a total "New Hope" vibe once they busted in the 'drome.

Other than that and a couple of sound effects, they never riffed off of Star Wars too much.

Logan · 01-18-2012, 01:59 PM

I've always noticed the similarity. The visiting spirit of Splinter even reminded me of Obi-Wan on Dagobah as well. Right down to the bluish color.

Hermano Dyvas · 02-14-2012, 10:31 AM

For some reason Shredder's always given me a Darth Vader vibe. Especially present in the OT with the technodrome reminding me of the death star.

Same as how Splinter gives off a Yoda vibe, this similarity is probably more obvious.

TonySiegel · 02-14-2012, 02:43 PM

This thread has ruined star wars and TMNT 1 for me, from here on til forever...

[never made this connection

]

*Xav* · 02-14-2012, 06:44 PM

I think it was Mad Magazine that did a spoof of the first TMNT movie and called Shredder a Darth Vader rip-off.

01-08-2012, 09:31 AM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,793	When Shredder says "I am your father" in the first movie When we see Shredder for the first time talking to all the kids he says, "You are here because the outside world rejects you. This is your family now. I am your father." Did anyone else think he sounds like Darth Vader when he said that line? Was it an intentional homage?

01-08-2012, 09:38 AM	#2
Metropoliskid41 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tundra Posts: 886	Yeah I actually just rewatched the first movie last night and that instantly popped into my head as well. I think it could be an homage, I mean he's wearing a big metal helmet while he says it, its hard not to see the similarities __________________ -------------------

01-08-2012, 11:40 AM	#4
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,187	There is a youtube video suggesting that. I never made the connection even after I was the clip while I can see why others would and I doubt it was a reference to Star Wars. I don't know about Star Wars,but Peter is a big Star Trek fan. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

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rufus Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Lawrenceville,Georgia Posts: 780	He mentioned once on one of his blogs that he was a fan of Yoda. http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2009/...taun-taun.html I always to the "I am your father" Line as him furthering his grasp on the disillusioned and runaway kids that we see makes up a portion of his criminal empire. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/edgartooms ^TMNT Stopmotions. Last edited by rufus; 01-08-2012 at 12:35 PM.

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,396	Yes, there was definitely a conscious effort to "Vader him up" with the Shredder. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

01-08-2012, 09:45 AM	#3
Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	I actually never drew the comparison because I saw Turtles way before I ever watched Star Wars. So to this day I don't make the connection. However, I have a feeling it was somewhat intentional - isn't Laird a Star Wars fan? Plus it's hard to escape the link when anybody says that line, haha!

01-08-2012, 01:58 PM	#6
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,208	Yeah, the movie had a pretty strong family theme going on. It's necessary dialogue if you ask me.

01-09-2012, 09:59 AM	#8
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01-09-2012, 10:48 AM	#9
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I'm a little surprised I never caught that, although I'm not a huge Star Wars fan. Love the way they do the foot clan in the first film. I like legit ninja's too, but the way Steve Baron integrated the New York youth into the picture was really done and fitting with the themes of the movie.

01-09-2012, 01:13 PM	#10
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01-09-2012, 03:52 PM	#13
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I never really made the connection before, but now I sort of do. Then again, I just figured that he was trying to disguise the Foot as a family for kids who didn't have good relationships with their own families. He took in kids who felt they didn't have a family and tried to make the Foot into one, but it wasn't. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

01-09-2012, 07:11 PM	#14
Shreddhead Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,470	Im a pretty big star wars fan, and i picked up on this the first time I ever saw the first turtles movie. Not sure if its an homage or just a line that ended up sounding a lot like its predecessor. But as a kid, i thought of Vader immediately when i saw the movie shredder. someone put this voice/ image comparison up on youtube. pretty similar if you ask me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChdabkaQCk __________________

01-18-2012, 01:59 PM	#17
Logan Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 483	I've always noticed the similarity. The visiting spirit of Splinter even reminded me of Obi-Wan on Dagobah as well. Right down to the bluish color. __________________ We're a team; and as a team let's go kick some ass! -Leonardo Logan the Layman Critic, a youtube channel for movie reviews and animation appreciation. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjn...xrKPml1WlYh6Mw

02-14-2012, 10:31 AM	#18
Hermano Dyvas Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 355	For some reason Shredder's always given me a Darth Vader vibe. Especially present in the OT with the technodrome reminding me of the death star. Same as how Splinter gives off a Yoda vibe, this similarity is probably more obvious.

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TonySiegel Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Worldwide Posts: 638	This thread has ruined star wars and TMNT 1 for me, from here on til forever... [never made this connection ] __________________ "...Color or creed, is no need for a man to bleed/ I believe, we all breathe the same seed/ Unless it's diluted, for somethin to intrude it..." - Kool G. Rap

02-14-2012, 06:44 PM	#20
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,040	I think it was Mad Magazine that did a spoof of the first TMNT movie and called Shredder a Darth Vader rip-off.