An original, unpublished TMNT story by Dan Berger?

*Andrew NDB* · 02-22-2012, 09:37 PM

Well, not exactly, but close.

Good friend Angie Sternitzke clued me into this little gem from well over a decade ago on www.ninjaturtles.com back when Dan was doing the letters pages for each Turtle. There was one that was unlike other letters... for one, it had the distinction of apparently being the only "letter" that introduced a wholly original character. For another, it was long as hell, full story length.

Give it a read and share your thoughts. It's a cool blast from the past that I'd never read until now:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/j...ers/993don.htm

*oldmanwinters* · 02-22-2012, 09:39 PM

Interesting. I never even knew Dan wrote those "Turtle-grams" on the website. I guess I should have guessed since he was the web-master for all those years. That was an odd era for the ol' NT.com site!

*gobo* · 02-22-2012, 09:46 PM

Yay, Danny Burger! ^_^

*Samhain* · 02-23-2012, 04:35 AM

Dan ''The Man'' Berger is a BOSS. Simple as that.

**Jester** · 02-23-2012, 04:51 AM

This is a very odd mingling of Mirage, Image, NM, and FW (or is that Archie)...but sure is fun.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-23-2012, 10:26 AM

I loved those old tales but never saw this one before.
Wow a very fitting end/beginning for those characters.
I won't lie I shed a little tear reading about Savanti.

There are some other really great stories that Dan had done on the old site.
Some one should collect them in a book or something.
I believe at one point they even had Venus meeting the Mutanimals or something like that.

*CyberCubed* · 02-23-2012, 10:42 AM

Dan Berger did many of these letters pages during the "Dead period" between Next Mutation and Volume 4.

It was basically fanfiction to keep the Turtle stories somewhat moving when there was no show on TV and no comics.

I remember reading these when I was like 12.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-23-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I remember reading these when I was like 12.

So just last year then? I keed I keed!

*Andrew NDB* · 02-23-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It was basically fanfiction to keep the Turtle stories somewhat moving when there was no show on TV and no comics.

I'm sure it's not canon, but "fanfiction" certainly doesn't seem like the right term at all. I'm pretty sure that's an oxymoron if it's a creator writing the "fanfiction."

**Venom** · 02-23-2012, 12:27 PM

I *loved* these things back then, my favorite being the one where the rumblings in the underground about the son of Oroku Saki.

They felt like TMNTA 2.0, melding the different continuities like he did.

*Ninjinister* · 02-23-2012, 02:00 PM

Well they certainly are "canon" to something, y'know, their own little universe. If there were distinct images for these stories, they would've showed up on Turtles Forever.

*Donnie* · 02-23-2012, 02:10 PM

I remember reading these as a kid and loving them. I never saw this one, and even now I find myself not wanting to read that incredibly long story, haha but I don't doubt it's awesome. Read the first few paragraphs. Really cool stuff.

Do you guys have links to the other Turtles as well?

**Venom** · 02-23-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie

I remember reading these as a kid and loving them. I never saw this one, and even now I find myself not wanting to read that incredibly long story, haha but I don't doubt it's awesome. Read the first few paragraphs. Really cool stuff.

Do you guys have links to the other Turtles as well?

Go to http://www.archive.org and search the following URL:
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/letter.htm

That should lead you to the notes throughout the years.

Orrr hopefully Master Splinter can throw something together?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-23-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom

Go to http://www.archive.org and search the following URL:
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/letter.htm

That should lead you to the notes throughout the years.

Orrr hopefully Master Splinter can throw something together?

Awesome. It's like travelling backwards in time to the Internet's childhood. I know it's actually much older (starting 1969 in US military), but the Internet as we know it today isn't older than circa 1995 when it became a part of everyday life in the Western World.

*oldmanwinters* · 02-23-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom

Go to http://www.archive.org and search the following URL:
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/letter.htm

That should lead you to the notes throughout the years.

Orrr hopefully Master Splinter can throw something together?

Too bad I can't recover all the later TMNT comic strips through the internet archive. I think NT.com would only keep about 2 week's worth of strips on the site at one time before removing the old ones and uploading a new one.

wilddiverse · 02-23-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Too bad I can't recover all the later TMNT comic strips through the internet archive. I think NT.com would only keep about 2 week's worth of strips on the site at one time before removing the old ones and uploading a new one.

Oh, don't you hate that?

I spent a whole afternoon doing that with the internet archive, trying different month/year combos and changing the date in the URL to mine what I could-- wound up with 120 non-sequential strips for the effort and somehow that's even more frustrating...

I'd love to see an archive of these letters if someone else puts the time in.

*Master Splinter* · 02-23-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wilddiverse

I'd love to see an archive of these letters if someone else puts the time in.

Already in the process.

*edit - http://mutantooze.org/wiki/?page_id=3462

That is only the beginning, there are a lot more that I will have to dig out of the wayback machine.

-ms

*Andrew NDB* · 02-23-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Already in the process.

*edit - http://mutantooze.org/wiki/?page_id=3462

That is only the beginning, there are a lot more that I will have to dig out of the wayback machine.

-ms

Brilliant idea. I applaud this.

*sdp* · 02-23-2012, 09:51 PM

These are awesome.

Genesis · 02-23-2012, 10:13 PM

I have some political cartoons Berger has done, and I love them.

02-22-2012, 09:37 PM	#1
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Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	I loved these things back then, my favorite being the one where the rumblings in the underground about the son of Oroku Saki. They felt like TMNTA 2.0, melding the different continuities like he did. __________________

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Samhain Dare To Be Stupid! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 4,752	Dan ''The Man'' Berger is a BOSS. Simple as that.

02-23-2012, 10:26 AM	#6
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	I loved those old tales but never saw this one before. Wow a very fitting end/beginning for those characters. I won't lie I shed a little tear reading about Savanti. There are some other really great stories that Dan had done on the old site. Some one should collect them in a book or something. I believe at one point they even had Venus meeting the Mutanimals or something like that.

02-23-2012, 10:42 AM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,831	Dan Berger did many of these letters pages during the "Dead period" between Next Mutation and Volume 4. It was basically fanfiction to keep the Turtle stories somewhat moving when there was no show on TV and no comics. I remember reading these when I was like 12.

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Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Well they certainly are "canon" to something, y'know, their own little universe. If there were distinct images for these stories, they would've showed up on Turtles Forever. __________________

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Donnie Something from the Past Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,256	I remember reading these as a kid and loving them. I never saw this one, and even now I find myself not wanting to read that incredibly long story, haha but I don't doubt it's awesome. Read the first few paragraphs. Really cool stuff. Do you guys have links to the other Turtles as well?

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Genesis Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 624	I have some political cartoons Berger has done, and I love them. __________________ "Kage-Maru embodies the ninja philosophy through his elusiveness, deception, and mobility. A single false move can lose the game, and it is this knife-edge strategy that makes Kage exciting to play and fearsome to play against." Last edited by Genesis; 02-23-2012 at 10:19 PM.