Do you suppose the IDW Ninja Turtles will be considered heroes?

*Jephael* · 03-13-2012, 06:50 AM

I know when it comes to labeling the TMNT as "heroes" or "vigilantes" there are two different camps. Some people prefer to see the Turtles as crime fighters who protect the innocent like every comic book character in spandex does, but then we got fans who see the Turtles as something else; which has me wondering which direction the new comics are going to take the green teens.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 03-13-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael

I know when it comes to labeling the TMNT as "heroes" or "vigilantes" there are two different camps. Some people prefer to see the Turtles as crime fighters who protect the innocent like every comic book character in spandex does, but then we got fans who see the Turtles as something else; which has me wondering which direction the new comics are going to take the green teens.

Most TMNT versions starts with the TMNT being considered evil freaks (except human friends from different versions like April, Irma, Casey Jones, Zack, Angel, Keno or whatever), then gradually being accepted as heroes and finally, when we se the future, entering society.

~~AquaParade~~ · 03-13-2012, 10:15 AM

The concept of the tmnt works best for me when they aren't necessarily "heroes". I like to know that they have a strong moral compass and will help when they can, but otherwise, their main priority is keeping their family safe. When you are out searching rooftops for "bad guys", you don't have your family's best interest in mind.

*CyberCubed* · 03-13-2012, 11:41 AM

I hope not. They should never get any recognition from the outside world.

Matches Malone · 03-13-2012, 11:43 AM

I started another thread along the same lines as this a while back:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=35759

It's definitely an interesting question because I think once Mirage started to license out the turtles, the concept got a bit muddled and started leaning a bit more in that direction. Perhaps not explicitly, but you could kind of sense it in the way they act and the way they are marketed. However, "heroes" and "crime-fighters" aren't necessarily the same thing. The turtles certainly are heroic in the sense that they try to do the right thing, but I don't think most people want to see them become professional crime-fighters, as that kind of goes against how they were initially established and what ultimately makes them interesting: living their lives while remaining complete outsiders.

*MikeandRaph87* · 03-13-2012, 12:10 PM

Any incarnation starts off they are not heroes but as it processes early on they become unsung heroes. They are heroes in a half-shell for a reason! Crimefighters is something else though as the turtles stop crime that comes to them and does not go out and look for it. If Shredder is a villain the Ninja Turtles are heroes. Cannot have one without the other!

*Cowabunga Carl* · 03-13-2012, 12:14 PM

To me they are just trying to live their lives. They stop people from doing bad things that could expose them or have an adverse affect on them. I don't like the idea that they go out looking for crime to stop. That would be counter productive to staying hidden.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-13-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

They are heroes in a half-shell

They are no such thing. And a "half shell" is a nonsense term... they are not missing their carapace or missing their plastron.

Matches Malone · 03-13-2012, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

They are no such thing. And a "half shell" is a nonsense term... they are not missing their carapace or missing their plastron.

It's probably a term they kept after the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Oysters" cartoon didn't pan out...

Toby Barrett · 03-13-2012, 12:33 PM

I think a more pressing concern at the moment is; will the turtle boys cut any slack once the evil Shredder attacks?

*Andrew NDB* · 03-13-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Barrett

I think a more pressing concern at the moment is; will the turtle boys cut any slack once the evil Shredder attacks?

One would hope not, I suppose... though come to think of it, that's probably a pretty good question since we still haven't seen the IDW Turtles involved in any ninja fighting at all yet. Are they just going to smack Foot Soldiers and/or Shredder around and occasionally graze them with their blades and, like, let them off with warnings at the end of the day? We have no idea yet.

Matches Malone · 03-13-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

One would hope not, I suppose... though come to think of it, that's probably a pretty good question since we still haven't seen the IDW Turtles involved in any ninja fighting at all yet. Are they just going to smack Foot Soldiers and/or Shredder around and occasionally graze them with their blades and, like, let them off with warnings at the end of the day? We have no idea yet.

I am still have the feeling that the Leo Micro-Series and the debut of the Shredder in #10 will be similar to what we got in IDW #5: That gritty ninja action we've been waiting for. If this is the format, I can get behind it; essentially delivering solid and serious storylines (with its occasional humorous moments) and saving the really gritty moments to make them really count and pack a punch. Here's hoping!

*ToTheNines* · 03-13-2012, 02:03 PM

Not unless Kevin Munroe takes over writing duties.

03-13-2012, 12:10 PM	#6
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,190	Any incarnation starts off they are not heroes but as it processes early on they become unsung heroes. They are heroes in a half-shell for a reason! Crimefighters is something else though as the turtles stop crime that comes to them and does not go out and look for it. If Shredder is a villain the Ninja Turtles are heroes. Cannot have one without the other! __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

03-13-2012, 06:50 AM	#1
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Do you suppose the IDW Ninja Turtles will be considered heroes? I know when it comes to labeling the TMNT as "heroes" or "vigilantes" there are two different camps. Some people prefer to see the Turtles as crime fighters who protect the innocent like every comic book character in spandex does, but then we got fans who see the Turtles as something else; which has me wondering which direction the new comics are going to take the green teens. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

03-13-2012, 10:15 AM	#3
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	The concept of the tmnt works best for me when they aren't necessarily "heroes". I like to know that they have a strong moral compass and will help when they can, but otherwise, their main priority is keeping their family safe. When you are out searching rooftops for "bad guys", you don't have your family's best interest in mind.

03-13-2012, 11:41 AM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,831	I hope not. They should never get any recognition from the outside world.

03-13-2012, 11:43 AM	#5
Matches Malone Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: California Posts: 954	I started another thread along the same lines as this a while back: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=35759 It's definitely an interesting question because I think once Mirage started to license out the turtles, the concept got a bit muddled and started leaning a bit more in that direction. Perhaps not explicitly, but you could kind of sense it in the way they act and the way they are marketed. However, "heroes" and "crime-fighters" aren't necessarily the same thing. The turtles certainly are heroic in the sense that they try to do the right thing, but I don't think most people want to see them become professional crime-fighters, as that kind of goes against how they were initially established and what ultimately makes them interesting: living their lives while remaining complete outsiders. __________________ "Baxter, you slime puppy!"

03-13-2012, 12:14 PM	#7
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	To me they are just trying to live their lives. They stop people from doing bad things that could expose them or have an adverse affect on them. I don't like the idea that they go out looking for crime to stop. That would be counter productive to staying hidden.

03-13-2012, 12:33 PM	#10
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	I think a more pressing concern at the moment is; will the turtle boys cut any slack once the evil Shredder attacks?

03-13-2012, 02:03 PM	#13
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,270	Not unless Kevin Munroe takes over writing duties.