Do you prefer the VHS or DVD copy of Secret of the Ooze?

*Jephael* · 11-19-2012, 08:49 AM

Ordinarily I prefer to watch both the original and third films on DVD, but when Secret of the Ooze was released, they made a small goof with the DVD conversion. Orignally in the scene where Rahzar is twirling Michaelangelo around he calls out "Hey, Leo!", though for some dumb reason the line got muted out. Due to that little snafu, I tend to rely more on my VHS copy of that film than the DVD. Does anyone else feel the same way?

*chrisdude* · 11-19-2012, 10:49 AM

I guess if there's an error, there's an error. That one, I never noticed. But there really aren't any advantages to VHS. They have to be rewound and they degrade over time. I'm sure my TMNT tapes are collecting dust in the attic.

*Drose18* · 11-19-2012, 10:57 AM

I just bought the blu ray version.

*gobo* · 11-19-2012, 12:42 PM

Can't say I've ever noticed. I just got the Bluray too, so I'll be checking on that later.

zodiac brave · 11-19-2012, 12:57 PM

i just watched my secret of the ooze dvd last night and, yeah, mikey doesn't say the line. doesn't really bother me as its a totally inconsequential "mistake". until i get the blu-ray, i'll keep watching the dvd as its too much trouble hooking up the vcr and dragging out my vhs from storage.

*CyberCubed* · 11-19-2012, 04:13 PM

After watching it on blu-ray I can't go back, the quality of the video is just so awful even on the DVD version.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 11-19-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

After watching it on blu-ray I can't go back, the quality of the video is just so awful even on the DVD version.

I found the BR quality to be so-so. While film grain is normal is most movies, it was monstrous in the TMNT films. The company didn't even bother to ink in the blacks during Splinter's flashbacks in the first film.

LeoNerdo · 11-19-2012, 08:08 PM

Yeah the Blu-ray is as good as it has looked on home video. It could be so much better though if it had a little restoration work done. I thought the 5.1 audio tracks were great though for being as old as the movies are.

*Drose18* · 11-19-2012, 08:26 PM

My blu ray just shipped from Best buy ill probably get it soon. One question does blu ray have any special features?

sgtfbomb · 11-20-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeoNerdo

Yeah the Blu-ray is as good as it has looked on home video. It could be so much better though if it had a little restoration work done. I thought the 5.1 audio tracks were great though for being as old as the movies are.

I thought that the movies looked better than they have ever looked. Yes, they could look better. However, I do think that a lot of the grain from the first film comes from either stylistic choices (the flashbacks), film stock, and lighting. If you take a camera, and shoot something with limited lighting, you will get a lot of gain. The problem is, if you take out grain, you actually lose detail, which is why people make a big deal about DNR, which tends to make for an unnatural, glossy look. However, besides the flashback scenes, the grain in the first movie isn't nearly as bad as it used to be. I recall that scene where Casey runs up to the warehouse looking worse on the VHS and DVD than the TV broadcasts. The grain was still there.

I don't know what people are talking about with the other two films. They look good, though I do think that there were some instances of EE, digital sharpening, and contrast. Granted, I don't have the sharp eye that many of HD enthusiasts have, but I think it is fair to say that these films do look better than they did on DVD. Just look at these screenshots!

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Teenag...6/#Screenshots

Frankly, this is probably the best these films are ever going to look. I hope not. I would love to see an awesome restoration of the first film.

*pannoni1* · 11-20-2012, 07:15 AM

VHS for the sake of nostalgia. It was the TMNT movie I watched most on VHS, and despite the degraded quality, I still have and is my preference. Let's not forget the Burger King commercial, too.

d_osborn · 11-20-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sgtfbomb

However, I do think that a lot of the grain from the first film comes from either stylistic choices (the flashbacks), film stock, and lighting.

it was a combination of style and budget. the film was also supposed to be a darker (photographic exposure, not tone). golden harvest requested that the film stock be pushed during processing, or lightened up, which also adds grain.

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Originally Posted by Jephael

Ordinarily I prefer to watch both the original and third films on DVD, but when Secret of the Ooze was released, they made a small goof with the DVD conversion. Orignally in the scene where Rahzar is twirling Michaelangelo around he calls out "Hey, Leo!", though for some dumb reason the line got muted out. Due to that little snafu, I tend to rely more on my VHS copy of that film than the DVD. Does anyone else feel the same way?

What you gain in the audio snafu, you lose drastically in 4:3 pan & scan. unless you're a nostalgia nut or haven't upgraded, I can't imagine a good reason why someone would want to watch VHS over DVD/BR. The BR especially looks gorgeous.

*Jephael* · 11-20-2012, 09:04 AM

To be fair my VHS copy is still in pretty good shape. Maybe someday it'll wear out, but as long as it's still viewable I can enjoy it. As I said earlier I do prefer the DVD copies of the other two live action films.

Turns · 11-20-2012, 10:15 AM

I don't usually watch either since the 2nd movie was my least favorite but when I do its DVD all the way.

Rise1184 · 11-20-2012, 11:25 AM

Interesting.. I never noticed that. I have both, so regardless, I'm happy with any quality.

Ravenxl7 · 11-21-2012, 03:55 AM

I have to admit, I never noticed that. I have both a DVD and a VHS copy. I'm actually rather proud of the fact that the VHS still works, given how much I watched it growing up.

I might even end-up having two copies of it on DVD. When I bought the copy I have now I could only find the SotO DVD, and it's still the only one I have. I'm considering buying the 4-pack Walmart has for thirteen bucks. Anyways, getting off topic, so I'll be going...

Bob · 11-21-2012, 12:14 PM

I will rather superior picture quality to one worthless little line any day of the week.

alliance · 11-30-2012, 12:39 AM

I gotta ask this...in your VCR Copy did it start getting alil fuzzy right after when Mikey kissed the manhole cover after saying "man im so glad to see you" during the tokka razar fight??

tmntpower1988 · 11-30-2012, 02:53 AM

So I wasn't imagining things when I didn't notice the line in the DVD version

It doesn't bother me if the line is missing though, it's one of those lines that gets stuck in my head and keeps repeating over and over again about a million times. The DVD version gets my vote.

eoireitum7 · 12-02-2012, 02:24 AM

Ah, VHS! Maybe they will correct it at some point. At least they aren't drastically changing the originals like they did with the star wars trilogy. I cringe every time I see spirit scene now on DVD. Bah

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11-19-2012, 08:49 AM	#1
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Do you prefer the VHS or DVD copy of Secret of the Ooze? Ordinarily I prefer to watch both the original and third films on DVD, but when Secret of the Ooze was released, they made a small goof with the DVD conversion. Orignally in the scene where Rahzar is twirling Michaelangelo around he calls out "Hey, Leo!", though for some dumb reason the line got muted out. Due to that little snafu, I tend to rely more on my VHS copy of that film than the DVD. Does anyone else feel the same way? __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

11-19-2012, 10:49 AM	#2
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	I guess if there's an error, there's an error. That one, I never noticed. But there really aren't any advantages to VHS. They have to be rewound and they degrade over time. I'm sure my TMNT tapes are collecting dust in the attic. __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

11-19-2012, 12:42 PM	#4
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Can't say I've ever noticed. I just got the Bluray too, so I'll be checking on that later. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

11-19-2012, 12:57 PM	#5
zodiac brave Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: san antonio, tx Posts: 822	i just watched my secret of the ooze dvd last night and, yeah, mikey doesn't say the line. doesn't really bother me as its a totally inconsequential "mistake". until i get the blu-ray, i'll keep watching the dvd as its too much trouble hooking up the vcr and dragging out my vhs from storage. __________________ what we were after, was lashings of ultra-violence.

11-19-2012, 10:57 AM	#3
Drose18 The Catalina Wine Mixer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,865	I just bought the blu ray version.

11-19-2012, 04:13 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,824	After watching it on blu-ray I can't go back, the quality of the video is just so awful even on the DVD version.

11-19-2012, 08:08 PM	#8
LeoNerdo Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 872	Yeah the Blu-ray is as good as it has looked on home video. It could be so much better though if it had a little restoration work done. I thought the 5.1 audio tracks were great though for being as old as the movies are.

11-19-2012, 08:26 PM	#9
Drose18 The Catalina Wine Mixer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,865	My blu ray just shipped from Best buy ill probably get it soon. One question does blu ray have any special features?

11-20-2012, 07:15 AM	#11
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	VHS for the sake of nostalgia. It was the TMNT movie I watched most on VHS, and despite the degraded quality, I still have and is my preference. Let's not forget the Burger King commercial, too. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

11-20-2012, 09:04 AM	#13
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	To be fair my VHS copy is still in pretty good shape. Maybe someday it'll wear out, but as long as it's still viewable I can enjoy it. As I said earlier I do prefer the DVD copies of the other two live action films. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

11-20-2012, 10:15 AM	#14
Turns Thug Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ottawa Posts: 75	I don't usually watch either since the 2nd movie was my least favorite but when I do its DVD all the way. __________________ T-U-R-T-L-E Power!

11-20-2012, 11:25 AM	#15
Rise1184 Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The Great Valley Posts: 260	Interesting.. I never noticed that. I have both, so regardless, I'm happy with any quality. __________________ "He's wrong.. We're NOT wearing costumes."

11-21-2012, 03:55 AM	#16
Ravenxl7 Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 488	I have to admit, I never noticed that. I have both a DVD and a VHS copy. I'm actually rather proud of the fact that the VHS still works, given how much I watched it growing up. I might even end-up having two copies of it on DVD. When I bought the copy I have now I could only find the SotO DVD, and it's still the only one I have. I'm considering buying the 4-pack Walmart has for thirteen bucks. Anyways, getting off topic, so I'll be going... __________________

11-21-2012, 12:14 PM	#17
Bob Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: UK, England Posts: 546	I will rather superior picture quality to one worthless little line any day of the week.

11-30-2012, 12:39 AM	#18
alliance Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 328	I gotta ask this...in your VCR Copy did it start getting alil fuzzy right after when Mikey kissed the manhole cover after saying "man im so glad to see you" during the tokka razar fight?? __________________ 80's TURTLES MUCH COOLER THAN FORGOTTEN 4KIDS

11-30-2012, 02:53 AM	#19
tmntpower1988 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ireland Posts: 793	So I wasn't imagining things when I didn't notice the line in the DVD version It doesn't bother me if the line is missing though, it's one of those lines that gets stuck in my head and keeps repeating over and over again about a million times. The DVD version gets my vote.

12-02-2012, 02:24 AM	#20
eoireitum7 Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 22	Ah, VHS! Maybe they will correct it at some point. At least they aren't drastically changing the originals like they did with the star wars trilogy. I cringe every time I see spirit scene now on DVD. Bah