Anime, Turtles Forever Continuity

Enscripture · 07-27-2013, 01:03 AM

So, ignoring Crys Mu, japanese language, the Shredders armour and the idiot Turtles Forever turtles, plus the Technodrome, for someone whom hasn't seen it from start to finish, using clues from the episodes and movie, where would they slot into the original series?

- OVA 1 of the anime has the Technodrome Float to the top of the water but it's not shown exactly where it was before.
- OVA 2 could be placed anywhere before Season 8
-Turtles Forever has the Technodrome running around on the streets of New York so maybe somewhere in "The Big" trilogy?

Ignoring the continuity hiccups, of course

*CyberCubed* · 07-27-2013, 07:47 AM

Turtles Forever probably took place during Season 3, which was the most popular era-ratings wise of the OT.

TurtleFan2012 · 07-28-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Enscripture

So, ignoring Crys Mu, japanese language, the Shredders armour and the idiot Turtles Forever turtles, plus the Technodrome, for someone whom hasn't seen it from start to finish, using clues from the episodes and movie, where would they slot into the original series?

- OVA 1 of the anime has the Technodrome Float to the top of the water but it's not shown exactly where it was before.
- OVA 2 could be placed anywhere before Season 8
-Turtles Forever has the Technodrome running around on the streets of New York so maybe somewhere in "The Big" trilogy?

Ignoring the continuity hiccups, of course

The OT and the anime are from different universes. Think of the anime as a "what if" story. The archie comics also used the OT turtles and villains, but they are not our OT characters from the show.

Cryomancer · 07-28-2013, 08:54 PM

Having seen the OVA and read one of the manga adaptations, I think you could throw the Japanese material in pretty much anywhere. The Super Turtles stuff introduces new characters, but they are also gone by the end of it, especially in the manga. The episode where they go to Japan can just be a vacation.

Probably the biggest hurdles of fitting it into the OT is the city being flooded.

Enscripture · 07-28-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomancer

Having seen the OVA and read one of the manga adaptations, I think you could throw the Japanese material in pretty much anywhere. The Super Turtles stuff introduces new characters, but they are also gone by the end of it, especially in the manga. The episode where they go to Japan can just be a vacation.

Probably the biggest hurdles of fitting it into the OT is the city being flooded.

lol That's why the went to Japan!

I'm looking at clues, the main one's being where the Technodrome is. It's riding around on the streets in Turtles Forever, and possibly underwater in the first OVA1? I'll have to rewatch them again.

*ToTheNines* · 07-28-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Enscripture

-Turtles Forever has the Technodrome running around on the streets of New York so maybe somewhere in "The Big" trilogy?

Not that they tried really hard to rip the OT turtles right out of any particular episode, but if anything that "branch off event" was during "Shredder Triumphant" from season 7.

However, I like to believe that Turtles Forever is post-season 10. I used to have a whole check list of reasons why, but mainly it just feels right for it to be a double finale. Also, if you pay attention, the Chanel 6 building isn't on the corner of that fork in the road, meaning it was rebuilt after Shredder blew it up.

Enscripture · 07-29-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Not that they tried really hard to rip the OT turtles right out of any particular episode, but if anything that "branch off event" was during "Shredder Triumphant" from season 7.

However, I like to believe that Turtles Forever is post-season 10. I used to have a whole check list of reasons why, but mainly it just feels right for it to be a double finale. Also, if you pay attention, the Chanel 6 building isn't on the corner of that fork in the road, meaning it was rebuilt after Shredder blew it up.

That ... Wouldn't work. That would mean Krang and the Shredder rebuilt the Technodrome and Krang's android and somehow got the energy to go back to Earth, right? Channel 6 is okay, and April went back to her stupid jumpsuit

*ToTheNines* · 07-29-2013, 05:14 AM

Because all of that is completely impossible...

*gobo* · 07-29-2013, 05:43 AM

As well as getting rehired by Channel Six.

I've noticed people claiming before that Channel Six was at a new location, but I just never saw any such landmarks. Where were they hiding? O_o

*sdp* · 10-17-2015, 11:59 PM

Sorry to bump this old thread but I was going to make a similar one with the new so why not?

As far as the OVAs while I guess we could fit them somewhere in the OT I feel it just makes things more convoluted. However we know there was a Manga that followed the OT but umm japanese style and I think they even had the same power ups of the OVA in one of the mangas so it fits better as a different turtleverse just how the Archie universe started as a re-telling but became its own thing.

Now turtles Forever has to take place after the Lotus Blossom episode but before the Red-Sky seasons. Now the techondrome was attacking the city right? This doesn't mean it has to take place during the Big Blow Out or whatever, I mean we have to remember that the technodrome was often re-powered and even sent back to the exact same location as before so no reason why it couldn't have been powered up off-screen and attacked the city (hitting the OT turtles with a test version of the giggle ray) and after the event the turtles fight the drome and send it back to whatever location it was in. Of course Krang being as picky as he is he rebuilds the technodrome to his liking since he doesn't like the Chrell version of it

Enscripture · 10-18-2015, 04:13 AM

Why Lotus Blossom episode (don't remember right now)? And while we're talking about it, what about the 2012 series cameos? I was thinking about that today. I'm pretty sure those could happen anywhere after OT Casey Jones is introduced.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-18-2015, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Enscripture

Why Lotus Blossom episode (don't remember right now)?.

Due to the nose sniffer machine.

Enscripture · 10-18-2015, 05:01 AM

Oh okay. Well obviously lol I was thinking maybe Turtles Forever might actually happen during season 1, cause human Bebop and Rocksteady, but that proves it happens later. What about European vacation for anime OVA 2 where they travel to Japan. Is that possible during that side-season?

Enscripture · 10-20-2015, 05:03 AM

I'd say Turtles Forever happens after S03 The Big Rip Off, because The Big Break In seems to take place WAY after The Big Rip Off. I think that's a good placement. They repower the Technodrome, then nothing happens (let's say they got it up and running on the streets then Turtles Forever) then The Big Break In takes place obviously a lot later, so they remodeled the Technodrome back and went underground into hiding -> The Big Break In.

*Icebot* · 10-20-2015, 04:03 PM

Bebop and Rocksteady weren't actually human, their human forms were animated in error.

I think Turtles Forever takes place after Divide And Conquer. I believe the Technodrome was rebuilt by Lord Dregg's microbots and that's why it worked well after being shown to be destroyed in Divide And Conquer.

*Wesley* · 10-20-2015, 04:30 PM

I assume Turtles Forever takes place sometime in season 3 in an alternate continuity. However, I think the writers probably didn't pay too much attention as to when TF could have taken place in the OT.

*Ninjinister* · 10-20-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleFan2012

The OT and the anime are from different universes. Think of the anime as a "what if" story. The archie comics also used the OT turtles and villains, but they are not our OT characters from the show.

I never saw it as such. I always assumed it was "canon".

*Xav* · 10-20-2015, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebot

Bebop and Rocksteady weren't actually human, their human forms were animated in error.

I'm pretty sure it was more of an Easter egg then an error.

*Powder* · 10-20-2015, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

I never saw it as such. I always assumed it was "canon".

The tone is a little odd, & Shredder's got some new digs, but it does fit in just fine otherwise.

At the same time, it's fun to think of there being an alternate universe based on the Japanese turtle media. Whatever floats your boat.

Cryomancer · 10-20-2015, 08:14 PM

I suppose Turtles Forever implies the Japanese stuff is separate just because they see it in the scene full of different universes yeah?

07-27-2013, 01:03 AM	#1
Enscripture Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 257	Anime, Turtles Forever Continuity So, ignoring Crys Mu, japanese language, the Shredders armour and the idiot Turtles Forever turtles, plus the Technodrome, for someone whom hasn't seen it from start to finish, using clues from the episodes and movie, where would they slot into the original series? - OVA 1 of the anime has the Technodrome Float to the top of the water but it's not shown exactly where it was before. - OVA 2 could be placed anywhere before Season 8 -Turtles Forever has the Technodrome running around on the streets of New York so maybe somewhere in "The Big" trilogy? Ignoring the continuity hiccups, of course

07-28-2013, 08:54 PM	#4
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Having seen the OVA and read one of the manga adaptations, I think you could throw the Japanese material in pretty much anywhere. The Super Turtles stuff introduces new characters, but they are also gone by the end of it, especially in the manga. The episode where they go to Japan can just be a vacation. Probably the biggest hurdles of fitting it into the OT is the city being flooded. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

07-29-2013, 05:43 AM	#9
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	As well as getting rehired by Channel Six. I've noticed people claiming before that Channel Six was at a new location, but I just never saw any such landmarks. Where were they hiding? O_o __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-17-2015, 11:59 PM	#10
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,185	Sorry to bump this old thread but I was going to make a similar one with the new so why not? As far as the OVAs while I guess we could fit them somewhere in the OT I feel it just makes things more convoluted. However we know there was a Manga that followed the OT but umm japanese style and I think they even had the same power ups of the OVA in one of the mangas so it fits better as a different turtleverse just how the Archie universe started as a re-telling but became its own thing. Now turtles Forever has to take place after the Lotus Blossom episode but before the Red-Sky seasons. Now the techondrome was attacking the city right? This doesn't mean it has to take place during the Big Blow Out or whatever, I mean we have to remember that the technodrome was often re-powered and even sent back to the exact same location as before so no reason why it couldn't have been powered up off-screen and attacked the city (hitting the OT turtles with a test version of the giggle ray) and after the event the turtles fight the drome and send it back to whatever location it was in. Of course Krang being as picky as he is he rebuilds the technodrome to his liking since he doesn't like the Chrell version of it __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server Last edited by sdp; 10-18-2015 at 12:06 AM.

10-20-2015, 04:03 PM	#15
Icebot Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 3,225	Bebop and Rocksteady weren't actually human, their human forms were animated in error. I think Turtles Forever takes place after Divide And Conquer. I believe the Technodrome was rebuilt by Lord Dregg's microbots and that's why it worked well after being shown to be destroyed in Divide And Conquer. __________________ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Icebot7/videos Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Icebot251

07-27-2013, 07:47 AM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,798	Turtles Forever probably took place during Season 3, which was the most popular era-ratings wise of the OT.

07-29-2013, 05:14 AM	#8
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,214	Because all of that is completely impossible...

10-18-2015, 04:13 AM	#11
Enscripture Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 257	Why Lotus Blossom episode (don't remember right now)? And while we're talking about it, what about the 2012 series cameos? I was thinking about that today. I'm pretty sure those could happen anywhere after OT Casey Jones is introduced.

10-18-2015, 05:01 AM	#13
Enscripture Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 257	Oh okay. Well obviously lol I was thinking maybe Turtles Forever might actually happen during season 1, cause human Bebop and Rocksteady, but that proves it happens later. What about European vacation for anime OVA 2 where they travel to Japan. Is that possible during that side-season?

10-20-2015, 05:03 AM	#14
Enscripture Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 257	I'd say Turtles Forever happens after S03 The Big Rip Off, because The Big Break In seems to take place WAY after The Big Rip Off. I think that's a good placement. They repower the Technodrome, then nothing happens (let's say they got it up and running on the streets then Turtles Forever) then The Big Break In takes place obviously a lot later, so they remodeled the Technodrome back and went underground into hiding -> The Big Break In.

10-20-2015, 04:30 PM	#16
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	I assume Turtles Forever takes place sometime in season 3 in an alternate continuity. However, I think the writers probably didn't pay too much attention as to when TF could have taken place in the OT. __________________ Donatello: The tracker! It might work. Donatello goes to the back of the Turtle Van Raphael: Shrewd move, Donatello. If we ignore the problem, it might go away by itself. (from The Mean Machines)

10-20-2015, 08:14 PM	#20
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	I suppose Turtles Forever implies the Japanese stuff is separate just because they see it in the scene full of different universes yeah? __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/