I don't like that Karai it's Miwa

MaximeLoonatic · 08-20-2013, 05:08 PM

In my opinion the plot that Karai it's Splinter's daughter it broke her character; if at the ence she found out about it, how she would react? It would mean that she's good? Neutrual? She supposed to be one of the most dangerous and meanest villians of the turtles; there's shouldn't be any chance for her to be good

*ObiWanFan4life* · 08-20-2013, 05:09 PM

How does that ruin her character?

*PApagreg* · 08-20-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

In my opinion the plot that Karai it's Splinter's daughter it broke her character; if at the ence she found out about it, how she would react? It would mean that she's good? Neutrual? She supposed to be one of the most dangerous and meanest villians of the turtles; there's shouldn't be any chance for her to be good

Well most incarnations make her neutral not really full blown evil

Bossa Nova · 08-20-2013, 05:23 PM

Karai tends to be most interesting when she's a conflicted, somewhat "neutral" character. If she's a full-blown villain or pure evil she runs the risk of becoming as flat as the Shredder. I'm not crazy about Karai being Miwa either, for a whole slew of other reasons, though I do admit it does amuse me on the whole LeoxKarai front.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-20-2013, 06:28 PM

The original Karai also had honor and had a truce with the turtles, and kept that truce. So she wasn't exactly 'pure evil' then either.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-20-2013, 06:56 PM

Are you one of those LeoxKarai shippers?

*Electric* · 08-20-2013, 07:50 PM

it keeps her interesting. karai as a character who's more interesting when shes neutral. for example, 2k3, karai was interesting when she was conflicted, but then in season 4 became flat when she had a weak motive to just be evil. (still havent finished season 5 yet)

its also ironic for us, since from now on, karai scenes will have us viewing her as splinters daughter, while she has no clue, and while shredder avoids telling her

*snake* · 08-20-2013, 07:51 PM

It makes her a better character, and it could lead to some interesting development, such as her questioning herself.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 08-20-2013, 07:59 PM

the character is still fairly new to me. My first exposure to her was the 2007 film.
I hadn't watched the 4Kids show, really, and I didn't see her in the comics ('cus the comics were hard to find and I didn't know to look for them 'cus the local shops didn't really have TMNT titles).

It's interesting all the different takes on the characters there have been.
Saki/Shredder, Splinter/Yoshi, who the Turtles are, Karai/Miwa.
Almost everytime a new cartoon or comic launches, something changes. Right now in IDW, Splinter and the Turtles are reincarnated from previous lives.

But I do like the dynamic of Karai really being Yoshi's daughter, raised by Shredder to use against her own father. That's just... dark.

*Electric* · 08-20-2013, 08:06 PM

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the character is still fairly new to me. My first exposure to her was the 2007 film.

in my opinion, that was the most boring karai ive ever seen. since she wasnt the main villain in the movie her character kinda got a "backseat". You dont really get to see her neutral side, of walking the line with the turtles. instead she just rides in a van with casey and april
you should really consider watching 4kids sometime! im not saying it will be incredible, some people like it, some dont, but if nothing else it gives you a different version of each character

*PApagreg* · 08-20-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

the character is still fairly new to me. My first exposure to her was the 2007 film.

in my opinion, that was the most boring karai ive ever seen. since she wasnt the main villain in the movie her character kinda got a "backseat". You dont really get to see her neutral side, of walking the line with the turtles. instead she just rides in a van with casey and april
you should really consider watching 4kids sometime! im not saying it will be incredible, some people like it, some dont, but if nothing else it gives you a different version of each character

She was also the Yamcha of Karais since she got her a$$ kicked by April

*Eiko* · 08-20-2013, 08:34 PM

I love that Karai is Miwa in the nick show. To me she has always been a quite boring character this time around tho she is more interesting plus it gives the Shredder/Splinter rivalry more of a story.

ShellCast · 08-20-2013, 10:27 PM

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I love that Karai is Miwa in the nick show. To me she has always been a quite boring character this time around tho she is more interesting plus it gives the Shredder/Splinter rivalry more of a story.

I agree with this too. I thought it was a great spin on what we already know (or don't really know) about her. Like others here said, she has never really been nailed down as this or that, the character has differed quite a bit through the mediums. To me, the reveal of her as Splinters daughter just...works.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 08-21-2013, 03:19 AM

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She was also the Yamcha of Karais since she got her a$$ kicked by April

Yamcha's my favorite

*PApagreg* · 08-21-2013, 03:32 AM

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Yamcha's my favorite

Somethings tell me you are not gonna like tfs abridge

*BubblyShell22* · 08-21-2013, 07:56 AM

I like that Karai is Miwa as it gives her more of a backstory and more character development as she questions who she really is. 2K3 Karai was interesting until after Shredder was exiled and then she just took his place and did a horrible job of trying to be her father all over again. At least this Karai doesn't totally blindly follow Shredder and now she has even more reasons to really think about where her loyalties lie.

I really think that once Leo finds out about her, he's going to try and persuade her to join them and Splinter so he can have his daughter back.

pingclang · 08-21-2013, 09:55 AM

You kidding me? The Kirai/Miwa reveal was awesome. Predictable, but awesome. Instead having her as just another ninja daughter for Shredder, she's a brainwashed Miwa? Badass. Nothing disappointing about it.

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I really think that once Leo finds out about her, he's going to try and persuade her to join them and Splinter so he can have his daughter back.

That will be a lot of fun to watch.

~~ABrown~~ · 08-21-2013, 02:30 PM

I kinda like the whole Miwa/Karai bit. I'll take her story over a mutant-of-the-week story any day.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-21-2013, 04:33 PM

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You kidding me? The Kirai/Miwa reveal was awesome. Predictable, but awesome. Instead having her as just another ninja daughter for Shredder, she's a brainwashed Miwa? Badass. Nothing disappointing about it.

That will be a lot of fun to watch.

Yes, it will, and I'll enjoy watching it if it happens.

*Powder* · 08-21-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eiko

I love that Karai is Miwa in the nick show. To me she has always been a quite boring character this time around tho she is more interesting plus it gives the Shredder/Splinter rivalry more of a story.

This sums it up perfectly.

08-20-2013, 05:08 PM	#1
MaximeLoonatic Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 285	I don't like that Karai it's Miwa In my opinion the plot that Karai it's Splinter's daughter it broke her character; if at the ence she found out about it, how she would react? It would mean that she's good? Neutrual? She supposed to be one of the most dangerous and meanest villians of the turtles; there's shouldn't be any chance for her to be good

08-20-2013, 05:09 PM	#2
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	How does that ruin her character? __________________ "The force will be with you, always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

08-20-2013, 05:23 PM	#4
Bossa Nova Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States, California Posts: 592	Karai tends to be most interesting when she's a conflicted, somewhat "neutral" character. If she's a full-blown villain or pure evil she runs the risk of becoming as flat as the Shredder. I'm not crazy about Karai being Miwa either, for a whole slew of other reasons, though I do admit it does amuse me on the whole LeoxKarai front. __________________ Nova's TMNT Fanfics

08-20-2013, 06:28 PM	#5
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,693	The original Karai also had honor and had a truce with the turtles, and kept that truce. So she wasn't exactly 'pure evil' then either. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

08-20-2013, 07:50 PM	#7
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	it keeps her interesting. karai as a character who's more interesting when shes neutral. for example, 2k3, karai was interesting when she was conflicted, but then in season 4 became flat when she had a weak motive to just be evil. (still havent finished season 5 yet) its also ironic for us, since from now on, karai scenes will have us viewing her as splinters daughter, while she has no clue, and while shredder avoids telling her __________________

08-20-2013, 06:56 PM	#6
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Are you one of those LeoxKarai shippers?

08-20-2013, 07:51 PM	#8
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	It makes her a better character, and it could lead to some interesting development, such as her questioning herself.

08-20-2013, 07:59 PM	#9
FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,229	the character is still fairly new to me. My first exposure to her was the 2007 film. I hadn't watched the 4Kids show, really, and I didn't see her in the comics ('cus the comics were hard to find and I didn't know to look for them 'cus the local shops didn't really have TMNT titles). It's interesting all the different takes on the characters there have been. Saki/Shredder, Splinter/Yoshi, who the Turtles are, Karai/Miwa. Almost everytime a new cartoon or comic launches, something changes. Right now in IDW, Splinter and the Turtles are reincarnated from previous lives. But I do like the dynamic of Karai really being Yoshi's daughter, raised by Shredder to use against her own father. That's just... dark.

08-20-2013, 08:34 PM	#12
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	I love that Karai is Miwa in the nick show. To me she has always been a quite boring character this time around tho she is more interesting plus it gives the Shredder/Splinter rivalry more of a story. __________________

08-21-2013, 07:56 AM	#16
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I like that Karai is Miwa as it gives her more of a backstory and more character development as she questions who she really is. 2K3 Karai was interesting until after Shredder was exiled and then she just took his place and did a horrible job of trying to be her father all over again. At least this Karai doesn't totally blindly follow Shredder and now she has even more reasons to really think about where her loyalties lie. I really think that once Leo finds out about her, he's going to try and persuade her to join them and Splinter so he can have his daughter back. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-21-2013, 02:30 PM	#18
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	I kinda like the whole Miwa/Karai bit. I'll take her story over a mutant-of-the-week story any day.