Was there anything from the 87 toon Laird liked?

*NinjaMan* · 08-29-2013, 03:42 PM

I know he didn't like most of it but was there anything he did like?

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 08-29-2013, 03:44 PM

Let me ask Siri...

*Xav* · 08-29-2013, 03:46 PM

I know he liked the first season. There was someone on here claiming he liked, fly Baxter, the Technodrome, and Mutagen Man.

**Jester** · 08-29-2013, 03:47 PM

The $$$.

*miru* · 08-29-2013, 04:05 PM

The fact it made his babies famous to begin with

**Jester** · 08-29-2013, 04:09 PM

Emily?

Technogeek29 · 08-29-2013, 05:29 PM

He did at times like the humor, I think he hated the direction.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 08-29-2013, 07:27 PM

Remind me again which one wanted the show/comics/ to go in what direction?

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-29-2013, 07:46 PM

I still can't believe he hated the '87 cartoon and phenom it spurred never adapting anything in the comics. Asking him in person he told me he liked the Technodrome, Baxter Stockman as a fly, and the sculpts of the original set of 10 figures from Playmates. Not much else aside from the different mask colors to further identify the turtles from one another outside the black and white comics and he enjoyed the voice cast. I do not think anything else from the Ninja Turtles masterpiece. Its a shame he feels like this aside from the fact Emily loves it which he appreciates.

Technogeek29 · 08-29-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

Remind me again which one wanted the show/comics/ to go in what direction?

Show, maybe wish it had its light hearted moments but was still overall serious, so yeah like previously said 1st season.

*Luckyday* · 08-29-2013, 08:33 PM

He like anything that either he or Eastmen came up for the OT series. Thats how Bebop and Rocksteady were created.

**Jester** · 08-29-2013, 08:57 PM

Must have had a falling out, because I remember hearing he loathed those two.

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-29-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Must have had a falling out, because I remember hearing he loathed those two.

It was the execution of the characters not the characters themselves. The fact potential powerhouses with cool designs demoted to idiotic comic relief to fit the code of tv of the time and keep the series running for awhile. Tom Waltz and company I believe see it that way nd want to erase the concept that became stuck with them. Peter could not bring himself to revamp them. Its quite possible the direction the characters took Bebop and Rocksteady to be what they are remembered for took hold specifically to Peter and dissuaded him from incorporating other media characters into the black and white comics. A side effect that causes my limited interest.

*Galactus* · 08-29-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

I know he liked the first season. There was someone on here claiming he liked, fly Baxter, the Technodrome, and Mutagen Man.

I remember he stated that on the comments section when he did a the kast q & a on his blog. It seems he's said similar things elsewhere.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-29-2013, 09:59 PM

aww....the co-creator of TMNT didn't like the 80's turtles???

I didn't know....does he like any of the other versions?
2003? 2012?

*Galactus* · 08-29-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

aww....the co-creator of TMNT didn't like the 80's turtles???

It's pretty common knowledge though I think it gets way exaggerated. He's said more than once that he does not hate or even dislike it nor does he deny it was hugely successful as mentioned on here there were aspects of it he liked and I do think he had some indirect influence on the show. Of course the way it developed wasn't really his thing.

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I didn't know....does he like any of the other versions? 2003? 2012?

He was quite involved in the 4Kids show and it's safe to say he likes it. I don't think he's watched the Nickleodeon show but someone sent him some short youtube clips and he gave a positive opinion on what he saw.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 08-30-2013, 02:46 AM

He never said he hated the 87 toon, he probably didn't have that much of an attachment to it. I did read that the different colored headbands didn't really bother him. At least not nearly as much as the initialed belt buckles and multicolored wrist, elbow, and knee pads.

Do you have a link to his reaction to the Nick cartoon?

marcelangelo · 08-30-2013, 08:26 AM

galactus is hitting the nail on its head here....
leothelatebloomer:...you may not know that it was laird who came up with the idea of different colored bandanas when confronted of the 'problem' of the toy company(they were of the oppinion that it would be hard to sell four identical looking figures(turtles with all red bandanas) to parents)..and he even came up with the colors himself...

I agree very much with senior galactus here, it is generally exaggerated when people talk about peter lairds feelings for the ot...
I mean anybody who would spend a minute imagining his situation could easily see how stupid this notion is that laird simplay hated everything

...to see your creation in SUCH a SHORT time period wander from indie comic to hollywood and entertain so many AROUND THE GLOBE is just absurd if you think about it...theres the american dream for ya...

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 08-30-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Emily?

Who is she?

*pannoni1* · 08-30-2013, 11:41 AM

Peter's daughter.

I would think he would like Krang being based off the Utroms by having a nice twist; Dimension X would have its own characters instead of the Triceraton Federation/Fugitoid.

I'm curious if Peter likes Red Sky.

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Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Emily? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

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Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,045	I know he liked the first season. There was someone on here claiming he liked, fly Baxter, the Technodrome, and Mutagen Man.

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Technogeek29 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville Posts: 1,486	He did at times like the humor, I think he hated the direction.

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MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	I still can't believe he hated the '87 cartoon and phenom it spurred never adapting anything in the comics. Asking him in person he told me he liked the Technodrome, Baxter Stockman as a fly, and the sculpts of the original set of 10 figures from Playmates. Not much else aside from the different mask colors to further identify the turtles from one another outside the black and white comics and he enjoyed the voice cast. I do not think anything else from the Ninja Turtles masterpiece. Its a shame he feels like this aside from the fact Emily loves it which he appreciates. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

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Luckyday Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,292	He like anything that either he or Eastmen came up for the OT series. Thats how Bebop and Rocksteady were created.

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Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Must have had a falling out, because I remember hearing he loathed those two. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

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BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	aww....the co-creator of TMNT didn't like the 80's turtles??? I didn't know....does he like any of the other versions? 2003? 2012? __________________

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LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	He never said he hated the 87 toon, he probably didn't have that much of an attachment to it. I did read that the different colored headbands didn't really bother him. At least not nearly as much as the initialed belt buckles and multicolored wrist, elbow, and knee pads. Do you have a link to his reaction to the Nick cartoon?

08-30-2013, 08:26 AM	#18
marcelangelo Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,471	galactus is hitting the nail on its head here.... leothelatebloomer:...you may not know that it was laird who came up with the idea of different colored bandanas when confronted of the 'problem' of the toy company(they were of the oppinion that it would be hard to sell four identical looking figures(turtles with all red bandanas) to parents)..and he even came up with the colors himself... I agree very much with senior galactus here, it is generally exaggerated when people talk about peter lairds feelings for the ot... I mean anybody who would spend a minute imagining his situation could easily see how stupid this notion is that laird simplay hated everything...to see your creation in SUCH a SHORT time period wander from indie comic to hollywood and entertain so many AROUND THE GLOBE is just absurd if you think about it...theres the american dream for ya...

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pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	Peter's daughter. I would think he would like Krang being based off the Utroms by having a nice twist; Dimension X would have its own characters instead of the Triceraton Federation/Fugitoid. I'm curious if Peter likes Red Sky. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!