Theory: Why aren't there any mutant allies in this show yet?

*CyberCubed* · 11-25-2013, 11:30 AM

With the exception of possibly Pigeon Pete who for some reason completely disappeared after episode 10, as well as the classic Leatherhead, the Turtles have not had any mutant allies in this show. Virtually every mutant has become their enemy in this series.

The Turtles used to have a ton of mutant allies like Mondo Gecko, Man Ray, Merdude, The Punk Frogs, Mona Lisa, etc.

This show has Leatherhead, but with him lost in Dimension X there isn't much to say. Pigeon Pete never returned either.

Why do you think they aren't giving the Turtles any mutant friends?

*miru* · 11-25-2013, 11:36 AM

Maybe because they're emphasizing the instability of the mutagen, and a mutant ally that can actually fight is going to be a surprise to the children.

Foot Soldier Clang · 11-25-2013, 11:58 AM

Like Miru said, maybe the writers are focusing more on the negative side of mutation through Mutagen. In another thread, somewhere, I brought up the idea that a proper mutation needed a balance of different conditions that ended with a "healthy" mutation. Maybe those conditions are rarer to come by in this new series. I would love to see more ally mutants team up with the turtles, and Pigeon Pete should return, if only as an informant.

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 11-25-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Foot Soldier Clang

Like Miru said, maybe the writers are focusing more on the negative side of mutation through Mutagen. In another thread, somewhere, I brought up the idea that a proper mutation needed a balance of different conditions that ended with a "healthy" mutation. Maybe those conditions are rarer to come by in this new series. I would love to see more ally mutants team up with the turtles, and Pigeon Pete should return, if only as an informant.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...20#post1109520

I think this is the post you're talking about.

*Refractive Reflections* · 11-25-2013, 12:22 PM

Meh, give it some time. If there's still nothing by season 3, and definitely nothing by season 4, then yeah it would be unusual.

I mean we're still getting introduced to Casey Jones, so... just give it some time.

Kevin G · 11-25-2013, 12:25 PM

Were there any mutant allies in the Mirage comics ?

*Electric* · 11-25-2013, 01:09 PM

Slash is coming next episode, and from what I understand he'll be an ally

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 11-25-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin G

Were there any mutant allies in the Mirage comics ?

Other than Leatherhead, i don't think there were...

*BubblyShell22* · 11-25-2013, 03:38 PM

Yes, I believe Slash will be an ally for a time. I also thought there was talk that Newtralizer would eventually become an ally for the Turtles.

*Metalwolf* · 11-25-2013, 04:17 PM

Plus they should develop the few mutants they have, instead of having mutants just to have mutants.

Megchan · 11-25-2013, 08:47 PM

What about ICK? Wouldn't he/she count as an ally? I mean ICK will be helping the turtles fight the Rat King.

*Electric* · 11-25-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Yes, I believe Slash will be an ally for a time. I also thought there was talk that Newtralizer would eventually become an ally for the Turtles.

i wonder if slash will stay as an ally. and i hadnt heard that about newtralizer, but i could see it. right now hes kinda just on his own though.

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Originally Posted by Metalwolf

Plus they should develop the few mutants they have, instead of having mutants just to have mutants.

i think theyll start to. we've almost got every mutant that was said to be added, with the exception of the owl. so there may be another suprise one or two, but then i think the old ones will come back.

from the intro, spiderbytes, snakeweed, newtralizer and rat king are all going to be in this season at some point

*Papenbrook* · 11-28-2013, 09:09 AM

How will Spiderbytes be introduced in this season?

DarkLightDragon · 11-28-2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

How will Spiderbytes be introduced in this season?

He might still hold a grudge against the Turtles since he probably still blames them for his mutation.

It'd be way too far-fetched and contrived to have him suddenly make a heel-face turn and be an ally especially if it'll happen upon his second appearance.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 11-28-2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

How will Spiderbytes be introduced in this season?

Ok, 2 things :

1.) Spiderbytes is a villain. (Not a very good one though)

2.) Spiderbytes appeared in the FIRST Season.

*Papenbrook* · 11-28-2013, 09:24 AM

I already know that. Thank you for informing me.

Since this season already has many plot points/ story arcs that need to be covered, how will this season have time to introduce Spiderbytes again?

*ObiWanFan4life* · 11-28-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

I already know that. Thank you for informing me.

Since this season already has many plot points/ story arcs that need to be covered, how will this season have time to introduce Spiderbytes again?

What possible reason would they have for bringing him back?

*Papenbrook* · 11-28-2013, 09:31 AM

That is what I am trying to ask.
What excuse do the producers have for bringing Spiderbytes back?

*Coola Yagami* · 11-28-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

That is what I am trying to ask.
What excuse do the producers have for bringing Spiderbytes back?

Oh... I don't know... angry at the Turtles because thanks to them he's a friggin mutant spider?????? Why wouldn't he come back?

*BubblyShell22* · 11-29-2013, 08:34 AM

I think it would be cool if he came back in the newest episode since it's Raph centric, and I think Vic would have beef with him since he's now a mutant spider. It would really be cool.

11-25-2013, 11:30 AM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,825	Theory: Why aren't there any mutant allies in this show yet? With the exception of possibly Pigeon Pete who for some reason completely disappeared after episode 10, as well as the classic Leatherhead, the Turtles have not had any mutant allies in this show. Virtually every mutant has become their enemy in this series. The Turtles used to have a ton of mutant allies like Mondo Gecko, Man Ray, Merdude, The Punk Frogs, Mona Lisa, etc. This show has Leatherhead, but with him lost in Dimension X there isn't much to say. Pigeon Pete never returned either. Why do you think they aren't giving the Turtles any mutant friends?

11-25-2013, 11:36 AM	#2
miru Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,874	Maybe because they're emphasizing the instability of the mutagen, and a mutant ally that can actually fight is going to be a surprise to the children. __________________ Proud Digimon nut.

11-25-2013, 11:58 AM	#3
Foot Soldier Clang Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Big Apple, 3am Posts: 456	Like Miru said, maybe the writers are focusing more on the negative side of mutation through Mutagen. In another thread, somewhere, I brought up the idea that a proper mutation needed a balance of different conditions that ended with a "healthy" mutation. Maybe those conditions are rarer to come by in this new series. I would love to see more ally mutants team up with the turtles, and Pigeon Pete should return, if only as an informant. __________________ My Collection

11-25-2013, 12:22 PM	#5
Refractive Reflections Mad Scientist $Refractive Reflections's Avatar$ Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,371	Meh, give it some time. If there's still nothing by season 3, and definitely nothing by season 4, then yeah it would be unusual. I mean we're still getting introduced to Casey Jones, so... just give it some time.
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11-25-2013, 01:09 PM	#7
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	Slash is coming next episode, and from what I understand he'll be an ally __________________

11-25-2013, 12:25 PM	#6
Kevin G Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 417	Were there any mutant allies in the Mirage comics ?

11-25-2013, 03:38 PM	#9
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yes, I believe Slash will be an ally for a time. I also thought there was talk that Newtralizer would eventually become an ally for the Turtles. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

11-25-2013, 04:17 PM	#10
Metalwolf Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,563	Plus they should develop the few mutants they have, instead of having mutants just to have mutants.

11-25-2013, 08:47 PM	#11
Megchan Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: California Posts: 122	What about ICK? Wouldn't he/she count as an ally? I mean ICK will be helping the turtles fight the Rat King.

11-28-2013, 09:09 AM	#13
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	How will Spiderbytes be introduced in this season?

11-28-2013, 09:24 AM	#16
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	I already know that. Thank you for informing me. Since this season already has many plot points/ story arcs that need to be covered, how will this season have time to introduce Spiderbytes again?

11-28-2013, 09:31 AM	#18
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	That is what I am trying to ask. What excuse do the producers have for bringing Spiderbytes back?

11-29-2013, 08:34 AM	#20
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I think it would be cool if he came back in the newest episode since it's Raph centric, and I think Vic would have beef with him since he's now a mutant spider. It would really be cool. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.