Did the backlash cause them to backtrack on aliens Turtles and white Shredder?

[CyberCubed]

Does anyone else think the fandom backlash actually made a difference this time?

The Turtles were clearly planned to be aliens from the beginning, as seen in the original scripts and Bay's comments, where the Turtles were actually from an alien Turtle race. But thankfully that alien angle seems to have been dropped, (or so we hope).

Then we had white Eric Sachs announced to be Shredder, and now all of a sudden we have indication that Sachs isn't Shredder after all, and that Asian Oroku Saki is indeed in the film. White Shredder caused almost as big a backlash as alien Turtles, and it was reversed.

Now obviously stuff like Megan Fox April didn't cause as much an uproar and it was probably too late to recast her role. The only other backlash is against the nostrils and humanoid faces for the Turtles, but the CG was probably too far in production to change it. So do you think fandom backlash made a difference?

If this is the case, its proof internet uproar can sometimes makes a change and cause studio execs to backtrack. Never doubt the power of online message board ranting!

[ctt4lfecw]

without a doubt, I think the fans put a hell of a dent in this movie's production

[Jester]

Yes...Cubed it was all you. Pat yourself on the back.

[Gimme_Three]

absolutely and thankfully they went back to the drawing board and changed it.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by ctt4lfecw

without a doubt, I think the fans put a hell of a dent in this movie's production

Now, wasn't Kevin Eastman hired as a consultant for the movie? If the studio is starting to have doubts of the production due to some of the fans distaste, doesn't that make Eastman look kind of bad? Like, he really doesn't know what clicks and doesn't click with the fans, of a property he helped create nonetheless?

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The only other backlash is against the nostrils and humanoid faces for the Turtles, but the CG was probably too far in production to change it.

Yeahhhh....that's not true. At least for me anyway. My problem with the designs isn't the fact that they have nostrils, because that makes sense. My problem is all the unnecessary stuff they put on them, when the simple bandanna, knee and elbow pads would have worked fine, as well as making them so large and bulletproof.

I will admit though, Leo is the best looking Turtle out of the four. If face wise Donnie, Mikey, and Raph looked like Leo, and they got rid of some stuff they had on, I'd be more open to the movie and the designs.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Jester

Yes...Cubed it was all you. Pat yourself on the back.

Hey, the cat sent like a billion emails asking for a couple episodes of the OT, once upon a time, didn't he? At some point, I could actually see a network or studio saying, "Fine, FINE, whatever, do whatever, just get RID of that guy!"

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Does anyone else think the fandom backlash actually made a difference this time?

The Turtles were clearly planned to be aliens from the beginning, as seen in the original scripts and Bay's comments, where the Turtles were actually from an alien Turtle race. But thankfully that alien angle seems to have been dropped, (or so we hope).

This yes THis was changed but this was change so early in production(comparatively) that it doesn't matter

Then we had white Eric Sachs announced to be Shredder, and now all of a sudden we have indication that Sachs isn't Shredder after all, and that Asian Oroku Saki is indeed in the film. White Shredder caused almost as big a backlash as alien Turtles, and it was reversed.

No this was not changed they filmed this whole movie Last Year in full Minus Two months worth of Reshoots, Which were mostly caused by Megan fox and her pregnancy,

Shredder is and has been whats in the movie Since before they filmed, You think the Fans had a hand is shredder you just try to justify Why you feel for the whole thing I will say this the misdirection they were going for was changed because of fans IE the decided not to keep the new shredder(Japanese actor) a secret, because fans were impatient, and could not wait till the movie released to find out.

Those who think other wise are just lying to themselves,

Adding a whole new character with a whole new story arc Isn't as easy
Most certainly could not have been done in two month worth of reshoots.

Now obviously stuff like Megan Fox April didn't cause as much an uproar and it was probably too late to recast her role. The only other backlash is against the nostrils and humanoid faces for the Turtles, but the CG was probably too far in production to change it. So do you think fandom backlash made a difference?

If this is the case, its proof internet uproar can sometimes makes a change and cause studio execs to backtrack. Never doubt the power of online message board ranting!

Sorry its not Likely alot of fan outcry can do more harm them good, Masseffect anyone

[graphic_content]

as much as we think studios like to check these boards, my guess is, nobody with any money/creative pull does. and by extension, they will do what they think is 1) in the best interest of the property (assuming they are actually fans, and 2) what will net the most profit (sometimes that means staying true to the property, other times it may mean deviating from it entirely)

sorry 'Cubed, we all have opinions here, but i doubt anyone outside these forums care what we all think.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Sorry its not Likely alot of fan outcry can do more harm them good, Masseffect anyone

have you ever played mass effect? have you played it before and after,,,,,fan out cry lef to a more solid ending the the original ambiguous one

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

have you ever played mass effect? have you played it before and after,,,,,fan out cry lef to a more solid ending the the original ambiguous one

One that fans hated And still complain about to this day
So yeah Fan out cry isn't always something to be listened to

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by Jester

Yes...Cubed it was all you. Pat yourself on the back.

hahaha....made my night

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

One that fans hated And still complain about to this day
So yeah Fan out cry isn't always something to be listened to

Where have you hears this? Fans didn't hate the revised endings they hated the originals that's why there was out cry

Bioware went back and added more finalized endings...again did you actually play them or are you just going off what you heard.

The only current "controversy" is which ending is the real one

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

Where have you hears this? Fans didn't hate the revised endings they hated the originals that's why there was out cry

Bioware went back and added more finalized endings...again did you actually play them or are you just going off what you heard.

The only current "controversy" is which ending is the real one

Ive played all of them but never finished the 3rd

http://kotaku.com/5898743/mass-effect-3s-ending-disrespects-its-most-invested-players

Ive heard it From tons of different people From several different Game sites i fallow, and different video game developments constantly bring up the ending.

[Barkworm]

Sachs was never supposed to be the Shredder, this was just a marketing thing similar to the the last Star Trek film. No whiny fanboy idiot caused the studio to "backtrack" on anything.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Sachs was never supposed to be the Shredder, this was just a marketing thing similar to the the last Star Trek film. No whiny fanboy idiot caused the studio to "backtrack" on anything.

Agree. They're on tight budget, ain't nobody got the time and money to waste on re-doing the story and scenes.

[CyberCubed]

William Fitcher seemed to think he was playing Shredder.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Sachs was never supposed to be the Shredder, this was just a marketing thing similar to the the last Star Trek film.

Please. No studio in their right mind is going to mislead their potential audience about something that would cause negative feedback and harm the financial return. Sachs was definitely Shredder when they started filming and probably still is at some point in the movie.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Please. No studio in their right mind is going to mislead their potential audience about something that would cause negative feedback and harm the financial return. Sachs was definitely Shredder when they started filming and probably still is at some point in the movie.

Sachs better never wear the Shredder armor in the film.

[Powder]

In the Visual History book he talked about having a stunt double, so there was definitely some shreddin' going on at some point. Or something.