Kill off Fishface, Rahzar and Tiger Claw

[neatoman]

With the introduction of Bebop, Rocksteady and Hun (not to mention what could be done with that mind control serum) I'd say there are too many henchmen for Shredder, things just sort of get clogged up. So I propose to kill off (or at least get rid of) Fishface, Tiger Claw and Rahzar. They have done very little so far, they're not very interesting right now and I don't see much future potential for them, just kill them.

[Amaranthus]

Rahzar is awesome, he has to stay.
Just get Fishface and Tiger Claw to leave Shredder or something.

[Ravenshell]

I agree that Shredder's got too many henchmen atm, but I rather get the feeling that B&R are going to be more rogue agents... they'll come to his side as long as something's in it for them. If not, well, there's bound to be more dissention in the ranks, and something's going to have to give eventually... Too many DJs, not enough mic's.

[AnarkyLantern]

Given that we've seen Fishface with the most sympathetic backstory among Shredder's mutants and having some sort of honor (when Raph saved his life, he returned the favor- something he had no other incentive in doing. And possibly some risk too- Can't imagine Shredder would have been happy with that.), I think he's the most likely to go good.

[Shark_Blade]

The more the merrier. You jelly?

[Amaranthus]

Holy sh*t I just realized.
What if Tiger Claw is Oroku Nagi?
Semi-relevant.

[marcelangelo]

Im STRONGLY opposed to your suggestion to kill of or get ridd of these three characters.I really enjoy their presence.love it when they are all on the move together!casey jones vs the underworld for example was fantastic!!also, what is your point?you don't want a rich cast of characters for the show, or what?this seems like a very poor proposition and based on your subjective viepoint, my friend...
here we have the chance to flesh out so many different angles it is great!I applaud them for creating that net of characters for this incarnation...
I cant wait to see fishface one day rebell against his treatment..maybe he#ll team up with or confront south american gangs in new york in some future episode to gather around some supprt for himself...he seems the one to be screwed the most by shredder (apart from basxter stockman perhaps).
LOVE tiger claw!!!!!!

[TigerClaw]

I disagree on killing off TigerClaw, Who is a cool character.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I disagree on killing off TigerClaw, Who is a cool character.

Biased, much?

[Luckyday]

I sort of agree with the OP, but I think what really needs to be done is to give them individual roles on the team to make them interesting characters. Right now, only Baxter has a specific purpose while everyone else serve one purpose and they don't have much of a dynamic because they all just simple hate each other on the same level.

It was interesting when Bradford and Xever were human because they didn't just simply hate each other. They were rivals and was something that made them interesting for a while.

They should put more thought into the character instead of just putting the work of a cool design, which is what I think they should really stop treating the mutation as and instead treat it as a chance of character development to explore.

[snake]

Nah, keep the original characters. Besides, shredder pretty much wants a mutant army, so he's just going to replace any dead mutants.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I think Shredder wants to have that many henchmen because, as he explained in Casey Jones vs The Underworld, they all represent different sects of the underworld that he controls. I like all the villains and especially Tigerclaw and definitely wouldn't want to see him get whacked. I think they are all cool. I think losing Metalhead was as close to a "death" as well will get.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

Holy sh*t I just realized.
What if Tiger Claw is Oroku Nagi?
Semi-relevant.

....no. Why wouldn't he recognize his own brother? And he's treated like any other henchman..albeit the highest, actually the second in command imo.

[Bauer536]

I love Bebop and Rocksteady, and I see a lot of potential for them. However, Rocksteady should use a gun, like in the episode "Serpent Hunt." We could make him more of a threat, compared to his partner.

Tiger Claw should stay, because he's actually pretty cool to develop. He may not have to work with Shredder anymore, but at least keep him for future ideas. I especially think he'd make a great Usagi villain.

At this point, Fishface had his welcome. I don't think he'll be killed off, but I do like the idea of Shredder turning him into sushi and eating his remains. Sick, but it sounds hilarious. If not, maybe he needs to become good. If Karai is now on the turtles' side, then maybe Xever can be with them, too. Still, he was more interesting as a villain. Maybe he can be a rogue.

And yes: Rahzar is good. We just need more of him. Maybe he should travel with Tiger Claw since their first bonding back in season 2.

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

....no. Why wouldn't he recognize his own brother? And he's treated like any other henchman..albeit the highest, actually the second in command imo.

Who says they grew up together though?

[Autbot_Benz]

No keep Razhar Tigerclaw and FishFace its better to have a huge mutant army

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

....no. Why wouldn't he recognize his own brother? And he's treated like any other henchman..albeit the highest, actually the second in command imo.

Well it would explain why Shredder would come back from his trip with only one recruit, why said recruit gets the highest rank right away and why does not use his real name (protecting identities).

Of course this does fall apart on several points, such why wasn't Tiger Claw part of the Foot to begin with and why don't they use their reals names to each other in private.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Well it would explain why Shredder would come back from his trip with only one recruit, why said recruit gets the highest rank right away and why does not use his real name (protecting identities).

Of course this does fall apart on several points, such why wasn't Tiger Claw part of the Foot to begin with and why don't they use their reals names to each other in private.

Also it was mention in Shredder's backstory that he was the only one that was spared in the massacre. Where would Tigerclaw's backstory fit in if he was raise in the circus and also happened to come from the Oroku clan?

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

Also it was mention in Shredder's backstory that he was the only one that was spared in the massacre. Where would Tigerclaw's backstory fit in if he was raise in the circus and also happened to come from the Oroku clan?

I know what I'm saying will probably never be canon.
But god, Splinter and Shredder's background story has been pretty inconsistent, so it's possible.

[Ninturtle]

This makes no sense Shredder wants a mutant army so why would he kill his mutants.