Teenage Mutant Wuxia Turtles!

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

TMNT Out of the Shadows tanked in America, so I'm betting Platinum Dunes is done with it. If this movie were a hit in China, I'd love to see what a Hong Kong Martial arts studio could do with TMNT. How about a movie based on Archie, where they visit China and team up with the warrior Dragon against Chien Kahn and a not-yet-reformed Ninjara. What does everyone else think?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

So what does everybody else think?

It makes me sad more than anything that Hollywood panders so pathetically to the Chinese now.

[TurtleTitan97]

Not really a fan of the idea.

[NinjaPug]

The first one only did $60 million in China. Doubt this one will be that much more popular (if at all) and it certainly won't reach Warcraft numbers.

Also, not a fan of your idea.

[TrickOrTreater]

Tailor the next film to it's target Chinese audience.

Yeah. Don't just make a good movie with good writing and interesting characters and a compelling story.

Just tailor-make it to pander to a foreign box office.

[Sabacooza]

The idea of these movies catering to the Chinese sickens me. It makes me feel like the property is being held hostage.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

There's a lot of freedom in art in the west that helps the TMNT be who they are. When you're making a film for Chinese audiences, you have to be a bit more careful of what messages you could be sending.

For instance, in a Chinese film, the TMNT could never, ever have a negative run-in with law enforcement. This would put our heroes at odds with the government, and we wouldn't want the people to have such an idea in their heads, right?

In a Chinese film, the Foot Clan could not seem too competent, or too powerful. Recently the Shredder has been portrayed as a rich politician of sorts, in the 4Kids series and the recent Bay film especially. That would have to change - after all, no politician is corrupt in China. It just would be a false message to the audience, right?

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

There's a lot of freedom in art in the west that helps the TMNT be who they are. When you're making a film for Chinese audiences, you have to be a bit more careful of what messages you could be sending.

For instance, in a Chinese film, the TMNT could never, ever have a negative run-in with law enforcement. This would put our heroes at odds with the government, and we wouldn't want the people to have such an idea in their heads, right?

In a Chinese film, the Foot Clan could not seem too competent, or too powerful. Recently the Shredder has been portrayed as a rich politician of sorts, in the 4Kids series and the recent Bay film especially. That would have to change - after all, no politician is corrupt in China. It just would be a false message to the audience, right?

Yeah, even though China has a communist government, they don't want people having ideas of revolting against them, which is why they control everything, including media.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

In the Sony email leak a couple years ago, I remember the studio executives were sweating about the possibility that the communist censorship board would be cutting out a pivotal scene of the 'Robocop' remake.

[Candy Kappa]

Eh, I don't think Wuxia fits the Turtles.

But, I guess it would be in line with the bullet proof, super-powered PD Turtles. Why not add water running, the ability to jump kick 20 ft up in the air and air gliding.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

The idea of these movies catering to the Chinese sickens me. It makes me feel like the property is being held hostage.

If you replace "Chinese" with "The MPAA" I agree.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

If you replace "Chinese" with "The MPAA" I agree.

Oh, please. The MPAA are so easily manipulated by film companies.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

If you replace "Chinese" with "The MPAA" I agree.

The MPAA do sh*t. What are you even talking about?

[plastroncafe]

You are right, they do sh!t.


Great movie, highly recommend.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

The idea of these movies catering to the Chinese sickens me. It makes me feel like the property is being held hostage.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

If you replace "Chinese" with "The MPAA" I agree.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

You are right, they do sh!t.


Great movie, highly recommend.

Hollywood is shady! Wow! Never knew!

What the f*ck does this even have to do with the thread? Are you drunk?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

What in the world are you bitching about, plastron?

The MPAA is just another tool for Hollywood to make as much money as they can, and they's so easily manipulated that they're not even reliable anymore. PG-13 is the golden rating, because parents will let their younger kids see the film and the older ones will go because a PG-13 rating means it's edgy enough for them.

The MPAA does have a little power, yeah, but it's pretty easy to side-step them. The film Taxi Driver was so gory it was originally going to get an X rating. The solution was to just send it to the ratings board over and over again until they were desensitized to the violence, and eventually it got a lighter rating. The only change they made was they made the blood less colorful, and the MPAA ate it all up.

That's why a f*cked-up looking film like Suicide Squad gets away with a PG-13 rating.

[plastroncafe]

Not yet, but the day ain't over!

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Not yet, but the day ain't over!

Ok, same schtick as usual. Go home, you're drunk.

[plastroncafe]

If we're going to bitch about how the creative endeavors of movies are curtailed by external factors, ie: a movie being "held hostage" by China, then I think it's relevant to point out that the same kind of creative curtailing happens here.

Changing the color of blood.
Having a guy hump a pie one less time.
Allowing women to be naked, but not men.
What profanity is okay, and how many times can it be said.

You're right, it's not entirely in keeping with the overall "theme" of the thread, but I wasn't the one who started in on how horrible the Chinese are.
We've got the same issue here.

Jester is right, both suck.