Who's the better ally and the better villain?

[2K3]

When it comes to Slash, Leatherhead and even Wingnut, both have had different allegiances over the years. At one point they are the most dangerous "non-human" threat the Turtles have faced; and at another they are the best of allies (heck, all three have been members of the "Mighty Mutanimals" at some point).

So I ask you... if you had to pick, who is better an ally and who is better a villain? (You can chose all if ya want)

[GoldMutant]

Obviously it depends on the context of the series. I don't know Wingnut well enough as I haven't read many of the comics.

Otherwise, Leatherhead I feel is better to be ambiguous. We don't see him fully neutral, only time was IDW until he's revealed a bad guy. Why not toy with fusing the elements of each incarnation together? Though wise with a danger side (think Jekyll and Hyde), he also possesses a cunning side like IDW. That'd be a good way to make him a loose cannon, someone difficult to trust or follow.

As for Slash, I do feel the Nick version until he became a hero was better a villain. He was a mirror image to Raphael if he allowed his anger to fully cloud him. Unless Tokka and Rahzar are in a new series, or at least Tokka, Slash might be better a villain but could grow.

Honestly, I see both as neutral.

[oldmanwinters]

Slash has made for a great ally (Archie, IDW, Nick). Leatherhead is probably most interesting when he's playing an adversarial role.

Wingnut is just a wildcard of chaos, and I like him that way.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I like Leatherhead as an ally, and Slash as more of a villain, though having either one be ambiguous would also open up a lot of interesting possibilities.

[MikeandRaph87]

Leatherhead-villain

Slash-Anti-hero

Wingnut-ally

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I have no opinion on Wingnut, having only experienced him in the IDW "Bebop and Rocksteady Destroy Everything" mini-series. I don't remember the Fred Wolf episode which I probably saw as a kid...

Honestly, I like Leatherhead as an unpredictable ally and Slash as a former enemy turned ally. Though they're both extremely well suited to be antagonists, I can live with either way. Just tell good stories with them.

Kinda hoping the IDW Leatherhead becomes more sympathetic ala Old Hob?

[CyberCubed]

Wingnut was also part of the Mutanimals in the Archie series and appeared in a ton of issues.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Wingnut was also part of the Mutanimals in the Archie series and appeared in a ton of issues.

And again, refresher course on Cylons:

Likes: IDW, 4Kids, Mirage/Image
Doesn't like: Fred Wolf, Nick, Archie, Next Mutation

I understand Wingnut has a more substantial presence than I've personally experienced or cared to remember. But in my preferred slice of TMNT, he's just in B&RDE.

[GoldMutant]

Cy, aren't you missing a certain film series? Or, is it already burnt away?
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I do wonder what it'd be like if Slash and Leatherhead appeared in a TMNT movie as experiments by Bishop or the EPF. It's an odd idea of mine, but I figured it'd be fun.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

And again, refresher course on Cylons:

Likes: IDW, 4Kids, Mirage/Image
Doesn't like: Fred Wolf, Nick, Archie, Next Mutation

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This is a real shame.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This is a real shame.

Its his opinion. I respect it as he conducts himself in a cordial matter. If one behaves poorly with preferences even if shared sure you can post the above, but come on,Cubed. I dislike Image and Next Mutation.and ignore the existence as much as I can. Is that a shame? Its an opinion.

[CyberCubed]

I know, but its a shame. I feel sad.

[ToTheNines]

Is this like some nerd version of "****, marry, kill"?

[Powder]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Is this like some nerd version of "****, marry, kill"?

Guess so. I can't really make a call like this.

But I will say I like all three best as anti-heroes. Sometimes helpful, sometimes a problem.

[ABrown]

I guess personally I prefer Leatherhead as an ally and Slash as a villain.