Tokka and Rahzar

MW8979 · 01-30-2004, 08:15 PM

Just wondering what the general opinion is on the cartoon versions. In my view, they're much better then the movie versions and not only because they actually formulate real words. I think the cartoon succeeded where the movie failed mainly because those two actually had personalities, which makes them much more interesting characters. Although I can't say I'm fond of Tokka's constant whining, Rahzar is actually pretty cool and a decent fighter. It's too bad we didn't see more of them in the original show. Never could quite understand though, why Tokka was so helpless and Rahzar always had to bail him out. I guess this is a mystery for the ages.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 01-30-2004, 08:24 PM

The fact that they just appeared out of the blue with no idea as to their origin, however, cancels out all of the things that were "good" about them in their cartoon versions. I think they made cartoon versions of them only so that the characters could get some more publicity and to satisfy the "fanboys" after the release of TMNT 2.

That's not to say, however, that the episode they appeared in (Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter!) was totally bad. It had some edgy moments in it, accompanied by the musical predecessor to the score of the Red Sky episodes.

*Coola Yagami* · 01-30-2004, 08:27 PM

Yeah... they never explained where the hell they came from or anything.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 01-30-2004, 08:33 PM

Plus it added just more mutants into an already mutant-choked cartoon.

*VaughnMichael* · 01-30-2004, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Yeah... they never explained where the hell they came from or anything.

actully you guys are wrong it did say where they and the rest of the new mutants had come from....they said something along the lines of there sure have been allot of mutants ever since shredder raided the zoo or something like that....that's fine enough for me I think rahzar was awsome in the episode it's a shame tokka was so moronic. but I did like how they were more grown up and not so childish like in the movie.
-Vaughn Michael

*Cascadia* · 01-30-2004, 09:42 PM

yea....i faguely remember that line in the episode.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 01-30-2004, 10:54 PM

I liked Tokka and Rahzar from the cartoon. I thought they were much more interesting there than they were in the movie. As Shredder said, "They are stupid!"

"No, duh!" - Michaelangelo, from "Turtles of the Jungle"

raphael90 · 01-30-2004, 11:25 PM

I had no idea those two appeared on the cartoon. I was on my Turtle hiatus from the middle to the end of the series, so I probably missed this...I would like to see it.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 01-30-2004, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by raphael90

I had no idea those two appeared on the cartoon. I was on my Turtle hiatus from the middle to the end of the series, so I probably missed this...I would like to see it.

If you've ever seen "Invasion of the Punk Frogs," the episode Tokka and Rahzar were in is kind of like that. And the mutant hunter featured in both episodes is voiced by the same actor, ironically enough.

"Okay, Savage. Now you, too, can be one of the good guys." - Donatello, from "Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter"

raphael90 · 01-30-2004, 11:31 PM

Now I did see the episode were the punk frogs (Genghis, Napoleon, etc.) came into existence in the show, but its been sooooo long I can't remember a thing hardly. Man, I need to re-watch this ep...need to find it.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 01-30-2004, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raphael90

Now I did see the episode were the punk frogs (Genghis, Napoleon, etc.) came into existence in the show, but its been sooooo long I can't remember a thing hardly. Man, I need to re-watch this ep...need to find it.

If I remember correctly, this was one of two episodes in which all four frogs appeared in the same episode. The other one was "Leatherhead: Terror of the Swamp." After that, however, the most you ever saw was two or three frogs.

But I could be mistaken.

"Isn't that Genghis Frog?" - Donatello, from "Big Bug Blunder"

WOO-HOO! 800th post! Now it's time for bed!

*Coola Yagami* · 01-30-2004, 11:47 PM

In an ep about giant bugs, only Genghis appeared, I guess to promote his figure again. Then another ep was about Napoleon, just in time for his figure.. and although the other frogs were in it too, Napoleon was the most featured.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 01-31-2004, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

In an ep about giant bugs, only Genghis appeared, I guess to promote his figure again. Then another ep was about Napoleon, just in time for his figure.. and although the other frogs were in it too, Napoleon was the most featured.

And the kicker about the action figures for the frogs is that they looked nothing alike. I don't know what Playmates was thinking.

After "Leatherhead: Terror of the Swamp" aired, the only episode to even feature three of of the frogs at once was "Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter." And even then, only two of them actually had dialogue!

"This hero business is giving me a headache!" - Rocksteady, from "Adventures of Rhino-Man"

*Coola Yagami* · 01-31-2004, 07:28 AM

no, genghis looked just like his figure. Napoleon was the one that looked nothing like the cartoon.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 01-31-2004, 07:33 AM

Yeah, Napolean was the figure I was thinking of when I made that post. The action figure's face and head looks like it was boiled in acid before being sold in stores.

"A turtle's gotta do what a turtle's gotta do!" - Michaelangelo, from "Michaelangelo Meets Bugman"

*tOkKa* · 01-31-2004, 08:04 AM

-->> ..for obvious reasons.. 'dirk Savage' is one of my faves..
best and prolly one of the most looney eps of the original toon

//
..Mondo,Punk Frogs,Rahzar,Stupid A.J. Howard Slug Villian..

..and lots of good eatin' !!

..

MW8979 · 01-31-2004, 10:08 AM

Yeah, I think they came from the zoo, when Shredder apparently doused it with mutagen. But unlike in the movie, he didn't actually take them with him and train them. So they were like mutant loners of sort, fending for themselves. I don't think they even knew who Shredder was.

*That Matt Guy* · 01-31-2004, 10:41 AM

Boy, the old cartoon just went out of control towards the end.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 01-31-2004, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by raphael90

I had no idea those two appeared on the cartoon. I was on my Turtle hiatus from the middle to the end of the series, so I probably missed this...I would like to see it.

If I could figure out what's wrong with my PrtScr key, I'd show you some caps.

I KNEW someone would eventually post a, "wha i didn no thy were in the cartoon lol!!!!1111" response.

Putrescent: That was still "out of the blue" in a way. They just all of a sudden appeared with no backstory, no development, just all of sudden WHAM! There they are.

MW8979 · 01-31-2004, 05:58 PM

To be fair though, you know that if they did appear with a story and background, it wouldn't be the old cartoon you're watching.

01-30-2004, 08:15 PM	#1
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	Tokka and Rahzar Just wondering what the general opinion is on the cartoon versions. In my view, they're much better then the movie versions and not only because they actually formulate real words. I think the cartoon succeeded where the movie failed mainly because those two actually had personalities, which makes them much more interesting characters. Although I can't say I'm fond of Tokka's constant whining, Rahzar is actually pretty cool and a decent fighter. It's too bad we didn't see more of them in the original show. Never could quite understand though, why Tokka was so helpless and Rahzar always had to bail him out. I guess this is a mystery for the ages.

01-30-2004, 09:42 PM	#6
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	yea....i faguely remember that line in the episode. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

01-30-2004, 11:25 PM	#8
raphael90 Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ...down in the sewer listening to Skinny Puppy... Posts: 618	tokka and r I had no idea those two appeared on the cartoon. I was on my Turtle hiatus from the middle to the end of the series, so I probably missed this...I would like to see it. __________________ "Babies? These things haven't even been BORN yet!" -Raphael

01-30-2004, 11:31 PM	#10
raphael90 Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ...down in the sewer listening to Skinny Puppy... Posts: 618	... Now I did see the episode were the punk frogs (Genghis, Napoleon, etc.) came into existence in the show, but its been sooooo long I can't remember a thing hardly. Man, I need to re-watch this ep...need to find it. __________________ "Babies? These things haven't even been BORN yet!" -Raphael

01-31-2004, 08:04 AM	#16
tOkKa tOkKie-Pokie,puddin'n PIE Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pajamas out of the water on the elephant was sweating a lemon. Posts: 1,729	!! -->> ..for obvious reasons.. 'dirk Savage' is one of my faves.. best and prolly one of the most looney eps of the original toon // ..Mondo,Punk Frogs,Rahzar,Stupid A.J. Howard Slug Villian.. ..and lots of good eatin' !! .. __________________ 666 !!terrible2z /GGM!!/T.G.R.I./ ..モンスターのカメを解読しなさい。

01-30-2004, 08:24 PM	#2
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	The fact that they just appeared out of the blue with no idea as to their origin, however, cancels out all of the things that were "good" about them in their cartoon versions. I think they made cartoon versions of them only so that the characters could get some more publicity and to satisfy the "fanboys" after the release of TMNT 2. That's not to say, however, that the episode they appeared in (Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter!) was totally bad. It had some edgy moments in it, accompanied by the musical predecessor to the score of the Red Sky episodes.

01-30-2004, 08:27 PM	#3
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,689	Yeah... they never explained where the hell they came from or anything.

01-30-2004, 08:33 PM	#4
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Plus it added just more mutants into an already mutant-choked cartoon.

01-30-2004, 10:54 PM	#7
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	I liked Tokka and Rahzar from the cartoon. I thought they were much more interesting there than they were in the movie. As Shredder said, "They are stupid!" "No, duh!" - Michaelangelo, from "Turtles of the Jungle"

01-30-2004, 11:47 PM	#12
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,689	In an ep about giant bugs, only Genghis appeared, I guess to promote his figure again. Then another ep was about Napoleon, just in time for his figure.. and although the other frogs were in it too, Napoleon was the most featured.

01-31-2004, 07:28 AM	#14
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,689	no, genghis looked just like his figure. Napoleon was the one that looked nothing like the cartoon.

01-31-2004, 07:33 AM	#15
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	Yeah, Napolean was the figure I was thinking of when I made that post. The action figure's face and head looks like it was boiled in acid before being sold in stores. "A turtle's gotta do what a turtle's gotta do!" - Michaelangelo, from "Michaelangelo Meets Bugman"

01-31-2004, 10:08 AM	#17
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	Yeah, I think they came from the zoo, when Shredder apparently doused it with mutagen. But unlike in the movie, he didn't actually take them with him and train them. So they were like mutant loners of sort, fending for themselves. I don't think they even knew who Shredder was.

01-31-2004, 10:41 AM	#18
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Boy, the old cartoon just went out of control towards the end.

01-31-2004, 05:58 PM	#20
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	To be fair though, you know that if they did appear with a story and background, it wouldn't be the old cartoon you're watching.