WORLD ISSUES

Kingkapong · 10-12-2002, 08:26 PM

well, we might be at war (that is, U.S and it's supporters -britain and canada and some other countries). mayhem in Washington (as of today, 10 victims to the sinister fiend). this thread is all about....................world issues.

*chirp chirp*

what else could go wrong?

GreenWillow · 10-12-2002, 11:20 PM

~Well, I've lit my candles and prayed for peace. Beyond that I'm feeling pretty helpless about all this....

~GW

*Skeletoncrew* · 10-13-2002, 12:33 AM

I lobbied my Senators and I'm proud of one of them for voting against it. Sad thing is we're prolly gonna piss off the rest of the world if we attack Iraq.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-13-2002, 07:28 AM

YIPEE!!!!! A THREAD WHERE I CAN SAY ALL I WANT ABOUT DUBYA!!!!!!! HE'S JUST TYRING TO BE LIKE HIS DADDY GOING FOR IRAQ!!!!! HE DESERVES TO BE RAPED BY MOUNTAIN MEN (his own kind

)!!!!!! HE'S THE BIGGEST DIMWIT ON THIS PLANET!!!!! HE'S TRYING TO RULE THE COUNTRY WITH AN IRON FIST!!!! HE'S TRYING TO CROWN HIMSELF EMPEROR!!!!!! HE DESERVES TO DIE AT MY HAND!!!!! HE'S THE BIGGEST, MOST HOMOPHOBIC AND THICK-HEADED HICKBOY AROUND!!!!! I'D SHOVE THOSE COWBOY BOOTS UP HIS PIEHOLE MYSELF IF I HAD THE CHANCE...NO, HE'D ENJOY THAT TOO MUCH!!!! GEORGE BUSH, IF YOU'RE READING THIS,

{Edit: Watch the language please....}

**Nturtle** · 10-13-2002, 08:13 AM

one word: oil

other countries despise the US on forign affairs, we hold many hostage with military might and support dictators to stop dictators who go against America we also exploit them to make clothes and everyday things, thats why they come to America cheap, due to cheap labor.
Bush has investments in Oil same with all the senators and conngressmen who voted for the war. Saddam is cruel and evil, he uses biological and chemical weapons on his people. Weapons we helped him make to attack Iran. But when he invaded Kuwait it compromised our oil intrests there. So Bush the first invaded now Bush the Second wants the oil in Iraq. its all for selfish gain.

**Machias Banshee** · 10-13-2002, 09:15 AM

Man, you guys are really hard on Bush....YOu seem to forget a LOT of American--No, WORLD History. All battles and wars have been started over stuff like this, whether it was for the use of slaves in the South, or the downfall of Aristocracy, or the claiming of new territories, it has ALWAYS been triggered by the needs of making more money. And Bush is not the only one....most politicians are invested in some sort of big business, like oil or whatnot. How do you think they get all the money to do their advertising? Its not all from the supporters....
What do you think would have happened if GORE was president? *shudder* I'd rather not worry myself over "ifs", but i would not be surprised if Gore would have already called for some sort of militial response on Iraq. It scares me to know tht if we do go to wr, many of our friends will be the ones to go, because most people ('specially turtle fans) are in the age range to get enlisted into war....and if we get the Draft started.....

Its scary, on the day of Sept. 11 (RIP), my very first thought had been, "What if Iraq was involved?" I worried that something big womuld come out of it, not good for anyone....all i can say is, stop the madness, call off the War Hysteria, and I really hate ESP sometimes.....

**Nturtle** · 10-13-2002, 09:34 AM

thats part of the problem, in fact its always the problem, but it in no way justifies this war. I doubt there will be a draft, why would you think Bush is pushing for a war now? Election time is coming up look at all the propaganda being shot off the tv sets about how we have to go to war its no coincidence. Gore would probebly not attack iraq, personnally I backed nader *ducks rotten fruit being thrown at him by democrats*

**Machias Banshee** · 10-13-2002, 09:46 AM

Its truly sad....our generation is finally getting a taste of wartime....

**Nturtle** · 10-13-2002, 09:50 AM

yeah, or at least the american part of our generation, i wouldn't worry about yourself, more the people of Iraq who are going to be massacred for thier oil and whatever other countries Bush or should I say Cheney wants to attack next

**Machias Banshee** · 10-13-2002, 10:02 AM

Its not just about oil...its a lot to do with the Biological weapons and such like that....

But yes, as i had said before....The present day generation has never sen wartime before...our parents had Vietnam, their parents world war two, Their parents WWI, and their parents, the Spanish American war (i think), and on and on...We are the first Generation to have not gone to war for over a century! but now...

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-13-2002, 10:30 AM

EDIT: Forget it...

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-13-2002, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

Man, you guys are really hard on Bush....

And that's a bad thing?

**Machias Banshee** · 10-13-2002, 10:36 AM

I'm sure that if the trailer-trash Clinton was doing it, You'd be all for him...

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-13-2002, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nturtle

personnally I backed nader *ducks rotten fruit being thrown at him by democrats*

You're not the only one.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-13-2002, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

trailer-trash Clinton

Ummmm...personally, I think Bush is more trailer-trash than Clinton.

**Machias Banshee** · 10-13-2002, 10:44 AM

Comparing the two, I see Bush as miles ahead better than Clinton after all the $h!t he pulled.....Clinton and "MonicaGate" really made the US a laughinstock.

**Nturtle** · 10-13-2002, 10:52 AM

ugh.... lets go find Carter and put him back in office

You're green too!!! awesome dude!!!
Is really not about biological weapons, the vast majority of that is propaganda. I just read a great article about the whole issue I'll e-mail it to you if you like. America gave billions to Saddam to help him make those weapons, when he killed his own people we didn't do a thing. But invading kuwait without our orders got him in trouble he like many other countries was another proped up dictator by the US. We have been doing covert operations all over the place to keep things our way. And the "free" press only blabbers on about little girls being kidnapped. Horrible as those cases are they have no relevence it what is actually happening.
Sorry if I come off too harsh, I have a tendency to do that

**Machias Banshee** · 10-13-2002, 10:59 AM

Oh, if Eisenhower still lived....

He really helped the country during WWII, even doing a half-hour talk every night n the radio...kinda soothing to hear his voice. Kinda like a parent telling a child that everything will be okay...I wish Bush could do something like that...

**Nturtle** · 10-13-2002, 11:47 AM

too bad he was a racist and a bit of a dumbbell, while he was doing those kind of things, Nixon and his staff were out running the world. i wouldn't like to have Bush do that actually i would be Patronizing. But anyways I don't think Eisenhower did that, he was a general at that time maybe you're reffering to FDR

Kingkapong · 10-13-2002, 12:09 PM

so far, U.S hasn't declared war on Iraq yet. hey, is it possible the sniping attacks in washington is related to this (war)? some people are speculating that. Bush is 1/2 to blame. the rest are to the people who voted him into seat. Bush is only good for one thing. sparking wars, just like his father. about past events (WW2) based on the treaty of versailles, germany was not allowed to build an army exceeding 100k. They did have an army exceeding 100k. they also invaded nearby countries. no one did anything, until finally they attacked france and boom! they are all in the war (referring to the allies).

Though the war vs Iraq will not be big, if Iraq launches one of it's biological warheads into north american territories, we're toasted like bread on a stove.

10-12-2002, 08:26 PM	#1
Kingkapong Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: T.O. Canada Posts: 548	WORLD ISSUES well, we might be at war (that is, U.S and it's supporters -britain and canada and some other countries). mayhem in Washington (as of today, 10 victims to the sinister fiend). this thread is all about....................world issues. chirp chirp what else could go wrong? __________________ Go leafs go!

10-12-2002, 11:20 PM	#2
GreenWillow Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mountains Posts: 425	~Well, I've lit my candles and prayed for peace. Beyond that I'm feeling pretty helpless about all this.... ~GW __________________ Hugs, kisses, GreenFaerieDust(tm) and a small vial of Belladonna. Life is good.

10-13-2002, 12:33 AM	#3
Skeletoncrew Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bearing in on your spicy brains Posts: 3,275	I lobbied my Senators and I'm proud of one of them for voting against it. Sad thing is we're prolly gonna piss off the rest of the world if we attack Iraq. __________________ Adult TMNT fan art and fiction contest Now accepting entries!

10-13-2002, 08:13 AM	#5
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	one word: oil other countries despise the US on forign affairs, we hold many hostage with military might and support dictators to stop dictators who go against America we also exploit them to make clothes and everyday things, thats why they come to America cheap, due to cheap labor. Bush has investments in Oil same with all the senators and conngressmen who voted for the war. Saddam is cruel and evil, he uses biological and chemical weapons on his people. Weapons we helped him make to attack Iran. But when he invaded Kuwait it compromised our oil intrests there. So Bush the first invaded now Bush the Second wants the oil in Iraq. its all for selfish gain. __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

10-13-2002, 09:34 AM	#7
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	thats part of the problem, in fact its always the problem, but it in no way justifies this war. I doubt there will be a draft, why would you think Bush is pushing for a war now? Election time is coming up look at all the propaganda being shot off the tv sets about how we have to go to war its no coincidence. Gore would probebly not attack iraq, personnally I backed nader ducks rotten fruit being thrown at him by democrats __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

10-13-2002, 07:28 AM	#4
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	YIPEE!!!!! A THREAD WHERE I CAN SAY ALL I WANT ABOUT DUBYA!!!!!!! HE'S JUST TYRING TO BE LIKE HIS DADDY GOING FOR IRAQ!!!!! HE DESERVES TO BE RAPED BY MOUNTAIN MEN (his own kind )!!!!!! HE'S THE BIGGEST DIMWIT ON THIS PLANET!!!!! HE'S TRYING TO RULE THE COUNTRY WITH AN IRON FIST!!!! HE'S TRYING TO CROWN HIMSELF EMPEROR!!!!!! HE DESERVES TO DIE AT MY HAND!!!!! HE'S THE BIGGEST, MOST HOMOPHOBIC AND THICK-HEADED HICKBOY AROUND!!!!! I'D SHOVE THOSE COWBOY BOOTS UP HIS PIEHOLE MYSELF IF I HAD THE CHANCE...NO, HE'D ENJOY THAT TOO MUCH!!!! GEORGE BUSH, IF YOU'RE READING THIS, {Edit: Watch the language please....}

10-13-2002, 09:15 AM	#6
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Man, you guys are really hard on Bush....YOu seem to forget a LOT of American--No, WORLD History. All battles and wars have been started over stuff like this, whether it was for the use of slaves in the South, or the downfall of Aristocracy, or the claiming of new territories, it has ALWAYS been triggered by the needs of making more money. And Bush is not the only one....most politicians are invested in some sort of big business, like oil or whatnot. How do you think they get all the money to do their advertising? Its not all from the supporters.... What do you think would have happened if GORE was president? shudder I'd rather not worry myself over "ifs", but i would not be surprised if Gore would have already called for some sort of militial response on Iraq. It scares me to know tht if we do go to wr, many of our friends will be the ones to go, because most people ('specially turtle fans) are in the age range to get enlisted into war....and if we get the Draft started..... Its scary, on the day of Sept. 11 (RIP), my very first thought had been, "What if Iraq was involved?" I worried that something big womuld come out of it, not good for anyone....all i can say is, stop the madness, call off the War Hysteria, and I really hate ESP sometimes.....

10-13-2002, 09:46 AM	#8
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Its truly sad....our generation is finally getting a taste of wartime....

10-13-2002, 09:50 AM	#9
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	yeah, or at least the american part of our generation, i wouldn't worry about yourself, more the people of Iraq who are going to be massacred for thier oil and whatever other countries Bush or should I say Cheney wants to attack next __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

10-13-2002, 10:02 AM	#10
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Its not just about oil...its a lot to do with the Biological weapons and such like that.... But yes, as i had said before....The present day generation has never sen wartime before...our parents had Vietnam, their parents world war two, Their parents WWI, and their parents, the Spanish American war (i think), and on and on...We are the first Generation to have not gone to war for over a century! but now...

10-13-2002, 10:30 AM	#11
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	EDIT: Forget it...

10-13-2002, 10:36 AM	#13
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	I'm sure that if the trailer-trash Clinton was doing it, You'd be all for him...

10-13-2002, 10:44 AM	#16
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Comparing the two, I see Bush as miles ahead better than Clinton after all the $h!t he pulled.....Clinton and "MonicaGate" really made the US a laughinstock.

10-13-2002, 10:52 AM	#17
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	ugh.... lets go find Carter and put him back in office You're green too!!! awesome dude!!! Is really not about biological weapons, the vast majority of that is propaganda. I just read a great article about the whole issue I'll e-mail it to you if you like. America gave billions to Saddam to help him make those weapons, when he killed his own people we didn't do a thing. But invading kuwait without our orders got him in trouble he like many other countries was another proped up dictator by the US. We have been doing covert operations all over the place to keep things our way. And the "free" press only blabbers on about little girls being kidnapped. Horrible as those cases are they have no relevence it what is actually happening. Sorry if I come off too harsh, I have a tendency to do that __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

10-13-2002, 10:59 AM	#18
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Oh, if Eisenhower still lived.... He really helped the country during WWII, even doing a half-hour talk every night n the radio...kinda soothing to hear his voice. Kinda like a parent telling a child that everything will be okay...I wish Bush could do something like that...

10-13-2002, 11:47 AM	#19
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	too bad he was a racist and a bit of a dumbbell, while he was doing those kind of things, Nixon and his staff were out running the world. i wouldn't like to have Bush do that actually i would be Patronizing. But anyways I don't think Eisenhower did that, he was a general at that time maybe you're reffering to FDR __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

10-13-2002, 12:09 PM	#20
Kingkapong Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: T.O. Canada Posts: 548	so far, U.S hasn't declared war on Iraq yet. hey, is it possible the sniping attacks in washington is related to this (war)? some people are speculating that. Bush is 1/2 to blame. the rest are to the people who voted him into seat. Bush is only good for one thing. sparking wars, just like his father. about past events (WW2) based on the treaty of versailles, germany was not allowed to build an army exceeding 100k. They did have an army exceeding 100k. they also invaded nearby countries. no one did anything, until finally they attacked france and boom! they are all in the war (referring to the allies). Though the war vs Iraq will not be big, if Iraq launches one of it's biological warheads into north american territories, we're toasted like bread on a stove. __________________ Go leafs go!