Would the world be ready for a black Batman/Bruce Wayne in the future?

*CyberCubed* · 07-13-2019, 12:16 PM

We know Robert Pattinson has been cast as the next live-action Batman so we're going to have a white Batman for the next few movies.

But eventually in the future, do you think the world will be ready for a black actor cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman? As we know, Batman is Batman, no matter his skin color. Just like The Little Mermaid is now black, how will you feel about a black Bruce Wayne? Will the world be ready for it or will there be backlash? I'm gonna guess yes.

*neatoman* · 07-13-2019, 12:21 PM

Cubed, don't try to start flame wars, it's not a good idea. Leave these kinds of discussions to 4Chan and Reddit.

*CyberCubed* · 07-13-2019, 12:21 PM

I'm honestly curious. Just like there's been rumors of the next James Bond possibly being black it's quite possible.

*Candy Kappa* · 07-13-2019, 01:09 PM

Would the world be ready? Probably not.

But we've already had a Black Batman once With Stan Lee's reimagine series, and I think you can do some interesting bits with a Black Batman.

Mr Salk · 07-13-2019, 01:13 PM

The world is woke enough to accept anything these days. I don't see the point though.

*ZariusTwo* · 07-13-2019, 01:26 PM

Sure, why not? When he had a chance to write versions of the DC heroes, even Stan Lee's idea for Batman was to make him black.

Mr Salk · 07-13-2019, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Sure, why not? When he had a chance to write versions of the DC heroes, even Stan Lee's idea for Batman was to make him black.

I just don't see how changing the race of the character adds to the story. It just seems to bring confusion and dissonance for no reason.

*Galactus* · 07-13-2019, 02:02 PM

Given the way the comicsgate community react to Signal they are not even ready for Batman to have a black crime fighting partner.

I would argue given the nature of Bruce Wayne coming from old money it would be a bit of stretch (though not impossible) to have an African American version. Thomas and Martha Wayne would potentially be more interesting characters.

I say this of course knowing that we already have a black Batman created by Stan Lee no less and Tim Burton was going to cast a black Robin and one movie pitch had a black Alfred. In many ways we've actually gone backwards but such is the way of white nationalists realised that pretending they cared about nerd culture could help their cause.

*CyberCubed* · 07-13-2019, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

characters.

I say this of course knowing that we already have a black Batman created by Stan Lee no less and Tim Burton was going to cast a black Robin and one movie pitch had a black Alfred. In many ways we've actually gone backwards but such is the way of white nationalists realised that pretending they cared about nerd culture could help their cause.

And we already had a black Harvey Dent in Batman 1989, and we could have theoretically had a black Two Face had Burton directed Batman Forever and Billy Dee Williams stayed on.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 07-13-2019, 02:37 PM

Make everyone black, and never go back.

~~Sumac~~ · 07-13-2019, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

Given the way the comicsgate community react to Signal they are not even ready for Batman to have a black crime fighting partner.

I would argue given the nature of Bruce Wayne coming from old money it would be a bit of stretch (though not impossible) to have an African American version. Thomas and Martha Wayne would potentially be more interesting characters.

I say this of course knowing that we already have a black Batman created by Stan Lee no less and Tim Burton was going to cast a black Robin and one movie pitch had a black Alfred. In many ways we've actually gone backwards but such is the way of white nationalists realised that pretending they cared about nerd culture could help their cause.

I love conspiracy theories.
Left or right - doesn't mater they always sound like a bunch of crazy bollox.

It is because we've gone backwards we have first big blockbuster with black superhero and TV series with a Lesbian hero. But, of course, those pesky white nationalists have enough pull to influence everyone to stop introducing non-white heroes...

As for black Batman, it is possible, but why? For what purpose? Just to recolor him and pander to eternally oppressed snowflake crazies on Internet, who don't even read comic books, much they don't care or play video games?

Mr Salk · 07-13-2019, 03:31 PM

It feels a bit stunty to colorize everything. I'm all for farcical interpretations like lady ghost busters, but shuffling color into the mythos of established characters is blatant pandering.

*Galactus* · 07-13-2019, 03:41 PM

Look at the comment section of those comicsgate youtubers and half of them are from people who don't even read or care about comics but support "the cause".

And yeah it did have an affect. The most prominent comic book publisher who was making more money than they had in a decade with a greater push for diversity who for a long time (rightfully) responded to these campaigns with with a figurative "sorry we can't hear over this pile of money" eventually got spooked enough to somewhat alter their approach.

It should also be pointed out it didn't work. Books were cancelled and replaced with books they thought would appeal to these idiots and it turned out to be less profitable. Newly launched books that Marvel would have otherwise given time to catch on were cancelled to appease the anti-diversity crowd only to sell a lot in trade leaving them to unceremoniously bring them back and hope the audience hadn't moved on. They held off on launching books that would end up selling well because they thought it would upset the alt-right types when they could have raked in those profits all along.

Yeah Marvel was dumb for listening to them but when even their owners - Disney - the biggest media corporation in history to fire the director of one of the biggest and hardest to handle properties after a campaign led by actual white nationalists to not only manufacture controversy over old tweets but try an insinuate he was a child abuser then I think they are more effective than you think.

Sure, progress has been made but there is definite steps back too. As people have pointed out here there is already a black version of Batman that few people had issue with but if he was created today there would an orchestrated hate campaigns against this version of the character. Heck there's campaigns against Batman even having a black ally.

As for why they should do it? I dunno. Why not? I'm not advocating for it but in a medium were multiple versions of the same character are a norm drawing the line at a none white one suggests to me there's a problem.

*Storm Eagle* · 07-13-2019, 07:12 PM

There's Batwing. How's that?

*Zulithe* · 07-13-2019, 08:15 PM

This thread sure is some bait. I'll just say, we have a ******** of black characters and the roaster is growing all the time. More are being introduced than at any other time in comics. Just adapt those to screen instead.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 07-15-2019, 03:15 AM

I think it would work.

*snake* · 07-15-2019, 03:26 AM

Well, Batwing already exists, and is pretty interesting in his own right.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 07-15-2019, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

There's Batwing. How's that?

How does his vehicle affect this?

*snake* · 07-15-2019, 03:41 AM

Unless you’re joking, read comics.

Mr Salk · 07-15-2019, 08:55 AM

I think you mean night wing?

07-13-2019, 12:16 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	Would the world be ready for a black Batman/Bruce Wayne in the future? We know Robert Pattinson has been cast as the next live-action Batman so we're going to have a white Batman for the next few movies. But eventually in the future, do you think the world will be ready for a black actor cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman? As we know, Batman is Batman, no matter his skin color. Just like The Little Mermaid is now black, how will you feel about a black Bruce Wayne? Will the world be ready for it or will there be backlash? I'm gonna guess yes.

07-13-2019, 01:09 PM	#4
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07-13-2019, 12:21 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	I'm honestly curious. Just like there's been rumors of the next James Bond possibly being black it's quite possible.

07-13-2019, 01:13 PM	#5
Mr Salk Thug Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 71	The world is woke enough to accept anything these days. I don't see the point though.

07-13-2019, 02:02 PM	#8
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,949	Given the way the comicsgate community react to Signal they are not even ready for Batman to have a black crime fighting partner. I would argue given the nature of Bruce Wayne coming from old money it would be a bit of stretch (though not impossible) to have an African American version. Thomas and Martha Wayne would potentially be more interesting characters. I say this of course knowing that we already have a black Batman created by Stan Lee no less and Tim Burton was going to cast a black Robin and one movie pitch had a black Alfred. In many ways we've actually gone backwards but such is the way of white nationalists realised that pretending they cared about nerd culture could help their cause.

07-13-2019, 03:31 PM	#12
Mr Salk Thug Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 71	It feels a bit stunty to colorize everything. I'm all for farcical interpretations like lady ghost busters, but shuffling color into the mythos of established characters is blatant pandering.

07-13-2019, 03:41 PM	#13
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,949	Look at the comment section of those comicsgate youtubers and half of them are from people who don't even read or care about comics but support "the cause". And yeah it did have an affect. The most prominent comic book publisher who was making more money than they had in a decade with a greater push for diversity who for a long time (rightfully) responded to these campaigns with with a figurative "sorry we can't hear over this pile of money" eventually got spooked enough to somewhat alter their approach. It should also be pointed out it didn't work. Books were cancelled and replaced with books they thought would appeal to these idiots and it turned out to be less profitable. Newly launched books that Marvel would have otherwise given time to catch on were cancelled to appease the anti-diversity crowd only to sell a lot in trade leaving them to unceremoniously bring them back and hope the audience hadn't moved on. They held off on launching books that would end up selling well because they thought it would upset the alt-right types when they could have raked in those profits all along. Yeah Marvel was dumb for listening to them but when even their owners - Disney - the biggest media corporation in history to fire the director of one of the biggest and hardest to handle properties after a campaign led by actual white nationalists to not only manufacture controversy over old tweets but try an insinuate he was a child abuser then I think they are more effective than you think. Sure, progress has been made but there is definite steps back too. As people have pointed out here there is already a black version of Batman that few people had issue with but if he was created today there would an orchestrated hate campaigns against this version of the character. Heck there's campaigns against Batman even having a black ally. As for why they should do it? I dunno. Why not? I'm not advocating for it but in a medium were multiple versions of the same character are a norm drawing the line at a none white one suggests to me there's a problem.

07-13-2019, 07:12 PM	#14
Storm Eagle Saved by Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,238	There's Batwing. How's that?

07-13-2019, 08:15 PM	#15
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NorCal Posts: 6,006	This thread sure is some bait. I'll just say, we have a ******** of black characters and the roaster is growing all the time. More are being introduced than at any other time in comics. Just adapt those to screen instead.

07-15-2019, 03:15 AM	#16
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,155	I think it would work.

07-15-2019, 03:26 AM	#17
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,230	Well, Batwing already exists, and is pretty interesting in his own right.

07-15-2019, 03:41 AM	#19
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,230	Unless you’re joking, read comics.

07-15-2019, 08:55 AM	#20
Mr Salk Thug Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 71	I think you mean night wing?