Official Movie Poster

[MrTMNT2012]

Because that's ever actually been a legitimate concern by people over the age of 3?

Have you ever even read the mirage comics?

Not much variation between the Turtles...

[Andrew NDB]

Have you ever even read the mirage comics?

No, never.

Not much variation between the Turtles...

And I once challenged this forum to show me any examples of panels from the comics where it is allegedly confusing which Turtle is which. 30 years of comics and folks were only about to produce one, maybe two panels from anything.

So....

[plastroncafe]

The only issues I can think of off the top of my head where this might be an issue are the "Dale Evans McGuillicutty" story arc.

But aside from that...I'm with Andrew on this one.
It's never been all that difficult to tell which turtle was which in a black and white comic.

[Raven]

I must be weird, because I kind of like the designs. They're a tad bit too overly busy, but they're no where near as hideous as the NT designs where.

Leo looks the best so far, Raph and don kind of disappoint me the most. Don looks more silly than anything else, but I like how don and let's face turned out more than the other two.

For one thing I think this movie will have great CGI, as many have stated here. But I'm still holding my breath about where the story will end up going. The designs aren't great, but they're no where near as horrible as I had them in my head (a weird mix of bay transformers and NT).

[Candy Kappa]

Have you ever even read the mirage comics?

Not much variation between the Turtles...

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Asking Andrew if he have ever read the Mirage comics.

JJ isn't enough here...

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[turtlefanforever]

The next mutation over these anyway of the week. How are you gonna say these designs are better? They literally have clothes under their shells. That's physically impossible.

[The Fifth Turtle]

So any word on the trailer? Maybe with Robocop??

[Night Watcher]

Do you think these are same designs that were created during the time of first script leak? Or do you think they even got that far with that script?

[Cipher]

http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110929135440/transformers/images/9/9a/Dotm-megatron-1.jpg look at it, you call that a good design? it looks like transformer ****...
Not a huge fan of their approach to Megatron, but overall, I thought it was an interesting, different aesthetic, and one of the only things the movies brought to the table that I appreciated on some level. Which is how I feel about these Turtles (except those glaaaaaasses).

[CyberCubed]

These aren't turtles. They're monsters.

[Cipher]

These aren't turtles. They're monsters.
The Turtles should be kind of monstrous.

Also, these bear far stronger resemblances to real turtles than most interpretations we've seen, so I don't know what you're on about?

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Exactly. And from what I can see of the action figures, they look to be HIGHLY detailed.

[Cowabunga Carl]

I dig them in all honesty. I'm surprised that they look as decent as they do.

[TrickOrTreater]

At least here, we can tell the Turtles apart...

You do know that film is not only a visual medium, but an audial medium as well, correct?

The Turtles' personalities are so different, as are their voices and speech types, that it would be nigh IMPOSSIBLE to confuse them in a film.

Even without the use of Bay's ******** stereotypes.

Not to mention the fact that a lot of the time these days, people general create the Turtles with different looks, such as varying heights, varying shades of green, different skin patterns, and so on.

Only if the audience was blind and deaf or the filmmakers screwed up the personalities of the Turtles so terribly would you not be able to tell who's who in a movie about them.

[gutterpunk13]

The Turtles should be kind of monstrous.

Also, these bear far stronger resemblances to real turtles than most interpretations we've seen, so I don't know what you're on about?

This is the only ninja turtle that should be monstrous..

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/motorsports/files/2012/03/TMNT.jpg

[MrTMNT2012]

I'm talking in-comparison to Transformers where you can't tell WTF is going on in the action scenes.

At least here, it'd be easier to tell!

[Powder]

Considering the maquette shots were being passed around back in August (as new photos, to my knowledge), and this "Ninja Turtles" logo is well over a year old, dating back to the scrapped script, AND has since been changed back to TMNT, I'd say this poster is maaad old. I'm hoping there's a better chance we'll see turtles closer in appearance to the scale models, rather than these guys.

[Bmaga123]

Considering the maquette shots were being passed around back in August (as new photos, to my knowledge), and this "Ninja Turtles" logo is well over a year old, dating back to the scrapped script, AND has since been changed back to TMNT, I'd say this poster is maaad old. I'm hoping there's a better chance we'll see turtles closer in appearance to the scale models, rather than these guys.


Pretty confident you are correct and that they will be the maquette's especially since the poster shows blue and green eyes for all the turtles and I read somewhere that Raphael actually has brown eyes in the movie. We will find out soon I hope :tcool:

[TrickOrTreater]

I'm talking in-comparison to Transformers where you can't tell WTF is going on in the action scenes.

At least here, it'd be easier to tell!

If the Turtles are jumping around and fighting a bunch of black ops guys in ninja costumes, how would you even see the glasses?

I was able to tell who was who during fight scenes in the 2007 movie.

Because the Turtles were talking, and had different weapons.

These changes are completely unnecessary and ONLY serve to shove the Turtles' personalities in our faces, not as a means of "identification."

[turtlefanforever]

The Turtles should be kind of monstrous.

Also, these bear far stronger resemblances to real turtles than most interpretations we've seen, so I don't know what you're on about?

More like humans than anything .

[Rooish]

If the Turtles are jumping around and fighting a bunch of black ops guys in ninja costumes, how would you even see the glasses?

I was able to tell who was who during fight scenes in the 2007 movie.

Because the Turtles were talking, and had different weapons.

These changes are completely unnecessary and ONLY serve to shove the Turtles' personalities in our faces, not as a means of "identification."

Kinda like Nick and Santolouco's and Campbell's work in the new IDW comics.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs23/f/2007/353/e/4/Megatron_pwns_Bay__s_Megatron_by_khaamar.jpg
though i wish he was holding Michael Bays head instead...

Haha, I love this! While the TMNT designs are far from perfect, I think they're a significant step up from what Transformers fans have had to deal with.

[Jester]

Didn't someone say this poster was from the German Toy Fair, where the film is still just Ninja Turtles?

[Dākunaito]

Didn't someone say this poster was from the German Toy Fair, where the film is still just Ninja Turtles?

I've read a few articles that stated that and I believe it was disogod who also said that yesterday, so I think its just wishful thinking on the part of everyone hoping to make changes to the final product.

[Rooish]

I wish none of the turtles had blue eyes. Why do they have to be white boys? How does that make sense?

[Bmaga123]

I wish none of the turtles had blue eyes. Why do they have to be white boys? How does that make sense?

I read somewhere that the eyes are brown now but who knows at this point.

[Aaronardo]

Aw, hell, no! NO. JUST... STOP. Thanks for ruining the public TMNT image, Michael Gay. Nonono, I don't even care! I don't even care if this movie is good or bad (which it probably WILL be...), I am NOT paying to watch this bull****! UGH! *bangs head against wall*

Yeah, that's how frustrated I am right now. I normally don't get in all a tizzy over designs, (change is actually welcome in my eyes), but this is freaking ridiculous! Again, thanks a lot, Michael. You little piece of ****.

[Cure]

I wish none of the turtles had blue eyes. Why do they have to be white boys? How does that make sense?

Are you stupid? Anyone can have blue eyes. Even turtles.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/KevMan87/michael-ealy-blue-01_zpsa4857467.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/KevMan87/mj-blue-eyed-turtles_zpsae2f75a2.jpg

[turtlefanforever]

Aw, hell, no! NO. JUST... STOP. Thanks for ruining the public TMNT image, Michael Gay. Nonono, I don't even care! I don't even care if this movie is good or bad (which it probably WILL be...), I am NOT paying to watch this bull****! UGH! *bangs head against wall*

Yeah, that's how frustrated I am right now. I normally don't get in all a tizzy over designs, (change is actually welcome in my eyes), but this is freaking ridiculous! Again, thanks a lot, Michael. You little piece of ****.

I think John had a big part in it too, his movies tend to be going for the "edgy" image. At least that's the vibe I got.

[Sabacooza]

I don't know if anyone tried this but I thought what the hell. Removing the nose holes and changing the lips can work wonders.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56040078/TMNT%20edit.jpg

[Aaronardo]

I don't know if anyone tried this but I thought what the hell.

/snip

Still crap, but slightly better.


I think John had a big part in it too, his movies tend to be going for the "edgy" image. At least that's the vibe I got.

Oh. GODDAMN YOU, JOHN!

[chrisguyver]

Aw, hell, no! NO. JUST... STOP. Thanks for ruining the public TMNT image, Michael Gay. Nonono, I don't even care! I don't even care if this movie is good or bad (which it probably WILL be...), I am NOT paying to watch this bull****! UGH! *bangs head against wall*

Yeah, that's how frustrated I am right now. I normally don't get in all a tizzy over designs, (change is actually welcome in my eyes), but this is freaking ridiculous! Again, thanks a lot, Michael. You little piece of ****.

Lol...:roll:

[chrisdude]

Are you stupid? Anyone can have blue eyes. Even turtles.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/KevMan87/michael-ealy-blue-01_zpsa4857467.jpgReal talk, I figured that was faked for Almost Human.

[Sabacooza]

Still crap, but slightly better.
I know. It's hard to polish a turd.

[Leo656]

I can't believe I just saw someone - with absolutely no irony - accuse Jester of being disagreeable, and someone else, also irony-free, ask Andrew if he's ever read Mirage. Madness.

Poster: Ugh. The lips and nostrils are the least of it. To me, those are barely noticeable. The way the Turtles are composed, they look fat. :lol: I'm sure it's not the official movie promo poster, but still... c'mon guys. The layout and composition is strictly amateur hour.

The more I see of the designs, the more I don't like them. Leo and Don are awwwwful, all that extra armor/gear, Donnie looks wretched. "Get It? He's a NERD!" Oh, we got it... just like we "get" Leo's the "traditional Asian-style warrior" and Raph's the Bruiser and Mikey's the pop-culture fanboy/hipster... because even if we didn't already know their personalities, those designs kind of stuff it down your throat. So very not a fan. But whatever.

As for anything else... guys... please, before you surmise things or give people/things more credit/blame than is warranted... study... how movies... are made. Seriously. So much debate about whether the director or producer deserves blame for this or that, or all these "logical" explanations for the Turtles designs and their hideous outfits. It's really not that complicated. You don't have to Guess at things when you KNOW why they are.

1. Movies like this, the producer holds more pull and makes all the big decisions. Producers hire directors; directors are employees, hired specifically to make the movie the producer and the studio want to make. They make no decisions and have little-to-no authority of their own. TMNT is no more Liebsman's movie than Superman III was Richard Lester's. Lester made the movie that the Salkinds told him to make. Liebsman is simply Bay's hired gun.

2. Do not - do not - even pretend for one second that these designs were given any deeper thought than, "That will look cool for the action figures." Nobody actually making the movie gave it that kind of over-thinking. Movies based primarily on a toy license, the studio entirely determines the look of the characters based on shelf appeal. They want the toys to look completely different from the Nick show toys, and that's it. Absolutely nothing else. There is no "Well, logically, they need shades because of adapting to sunlight..." or, "Donnie tapes his glasses because his head is so wide..." No, Donnie has those glasses because "He's A Nerd!" Same reason he has Ghostbusters goggles and a proton pack. They do toy concepts first and work backwards from there. Seriously, do some research; it's how movies are made, it's not just my feeling/opinion. These are Simple Facts.

And I hate being pandered to by toy companies. Thus, I hate these stupid, cluttered, unnecessary designs. I get that some people are really optimistic about the movie, and that's great, and it makes sense they'd look for anything and everything to put a positive spin on. But people trying to justify the look with "Well, it makes sense because..." are really, seriously over-thinking it. They even LOOK like toy design concept art. Just a cluttered mess.

Like it or don't, opinions are free. But judge things as they are, not what we would like them to be, is all I ask. In this case, judge the look based on the fact it's simply what some middle-aged executive thinks is "Hip" and "In-Yo'-Face!" Don't over-sell it with "Well, realistically or logically..." because that's got nothing to do with why they did it. Zero.

[Redeemer]

I don't know if anyone tried this but I thought what the hell. Removing the nose holes and changing the lips can work wonders.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56040078/TMNT%20edit.jpg

Now thats a shiny turd!!! :lol:

Seriously though it looks a lot better without the nostrils.

[Shark_Blade]

I don't know if anyone tried this but I thought what the hell. Removing the nose holes and changing the lips can work wonders.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56040078/TMNT%20edit.jpgYeah... it looks better that way.

http://i.imgur.com/Hh6pT91.jpg

[MikeandRaph87]

Ninja Turtles is now the number one trending term on yahoo! Its getting quite the buzz it seems.

[Redeemer]

Ninja Turtles is now the number one trending term on yahoo! Its getting quite the buzz it seems.

They say there is no such thing as bad publicity

[Leo656]

Depends. It could be like The Lone Ranger, with everyone agreeing six months in advance it looked bad and then avoiding the movie like the Plague once it came out.

Like it or not, sometimes these things become a self-fulfilling prediction. If enough people decide early on, "That looks crummy, I bet it tanks", it will tank no matter what. Some people like Lone Ranger. Some people like Green Lantern (me, and I'm sure at least someone else, somewhere). In both cases, the whole world decided early on they didn't care, and we see where that "publicity" got them in the end. :ohwell:

[chrisdude]

At least kids like TMNT. They have that going for them.

[Jester]

Not when some cry at the movie designs.

[samxsteal]

Depends. It could be like The Lone Ranger, with everyone agreeing six months in advance it looked bad and then avoiding the movie like the Plague once it came out.

Like it or not, sometimes these things become a self-fulfilling prediction. If enough people decide early on, "That looks crummy, I bet it tanks", it will tank no matter what. Some people like Lone Ranger. Some people like Green Lantern (me, and I'm sure at least someone else, somewhere). In both cases, the whole world decided early on they didn't care, and we see where that "publicity" got them in the end. :ohwell:

But basing a persons opinions of something the general public wasn't even supposed to see there's a reason were not supposed to see stuff like that they haven't finished the art side of the marketing once market finish and they show what they originally had planed to show thing will be different almost 100% sure about that

[Leo656]

It has nothing to do with the poster itself. It's that everything we've seen so far from every angle gives anyone enough clues to decide if things are going to be up their alley or not. And some of it looks awful.

"Deductive Reasoning" is a thing. I highly doubt that the Turtles are going to look drastically different from the poster or the sculptures, this late in the game. That's the look we're getting. That poster is a crammed, poorly-designed mess, but that's not the problem at all. It doesn't matter what context it exists in. It displays a product that looks like it's not going to be very good. The Turtles themselves are over-designed and gimmicky.

Whether we were meant to see it or not, it shows us 99% what the final designs are going to look like, and now we can decide if it's eye-pleasing or not. I, personally, say Not.

[ToTheNines]

I do like that Leo and Don have some armor, that makes complete sense... but they over did it. Why would a turtle wear bamboo armor over his ****ing shell? And Donnie looks more "grandma" than "nerd" to me. Yuck.

Mike looks ok, the tattoo is what was too much for me. Hopefully he's not really wearing pants. That just doesn't make any sense, even if they are spandex. Hopefully none of the guys are wearing much of this extra ish throughout the bulk of the movie.

And Raph just looks evil.

[chrisdude]

Not when some cry at the movie designs.
http://i.imgur.com/YwOySU1.gif

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Looks like til be called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles after all. And we get official pics soon!

"The Hasbro promo art was on display in at the Nurnburg Toy Fair in Germany. It's a similar display to the one that will be at the Int. Toy Fair in NYC next week. Full reveal of the toy line (digital images) will be next week, probably on Thursday.

The movie is being called Ninja Turtles in most of Europe and Asia. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the US, UK and other English markets.

I saw the Splinter figure. He's freaking scary. Looks like a sewer rat. IRL should be significantly smaller than the Turtles. He's got the Fu Manchu facial hair but it's more subdued that the animated movie."

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=472767&page=5

[Leo656]

What's funny to me is, when people said they hated that Bay and Fox were involved, a lot of others said "We have nothing else to go on, let's wait." Then, we got some set pics, and some people didn't love them, and others said "This still tells us nothing, let's wait." So then we got some questionable cast/story news, and people said "we still haven't seen the Turtles, let's wait." So then, we get a look at the Turtles and Shredder, and when some people don't like them, a few others say, "We still need to see a poster..." Then we get a poster, and people are like, "Well, it's not the *official* poster," or, "Well, we need to see them in motion..." :lol:

If the movie ends up pleasing me, I'll say I liked it. But at the same time, I bet if it does suck, certain folks are gonna be like, "Well, maybe we still need to wait for the Director's Cut before we make a decision." :lol: The blind faith and desperate want/need to like the movie is puzzling, to me.

As if we can't already tell enough by NOW, as individuals, to form a preliminary opinion. :lol: A few months ago, I would have agreed. But we've seen enough in just the last week to say, Yes, some people are entirely justified in thinking they won't like it.

That said, I wanted to hate Man of Steel and I just couldn't. So ya never know.

[thebrownranger]

Only part of the poster I'm liking is Leonardo. Not sure if someone pointed it out, but it looks like Donnie is gonna be using a metal bo-staff.

[TrickOrTreater]

Looks like til be called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles after all. And we get official pics soon!

"The Hasbro promo art was on display in at the Nurnburg Toy Fair in Germany. It's a similar display to the one that will be at the Int. Toy Fair in NYC next week. Full reveal of the toy line (digital images) will be next week, probably on Thursday.

The movie is being called Ninja Turtles in most of Europe and Asia. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the US, UK and other English markets.

I saw the Splinter figure. He's freaking scary. Looks like a sewer rat. IRL should be significantly smaller than the Turtles. He's got the Fu Manchu facial hair but it's more subdued that the animated movie."

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=472767&page=5

As nervous as I am about the Turtles and as much as I'm dreading seeing Bay's Shredder, I'm most nervous about Splinter.

Because THIS guy is playing him:

http://i.imgur.com/6wtljZp.jpg?1

Yeah the guy who hung out with Kramer on Seinfeld is playing either Japanese man/ninja master turned anthropomorphic rat Hamato Yoshi OR pet Japanese rat of Japanese ninja master Hamato Yoshi(I myself prefer the latter. The mutated pet rat of murdered Hamato Yoshi).

So...balls.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

It's quite clear they are more concerned with the toys. So, like the old cartoon, the movie will be a massive toy advert for parents to buy for their kids after the movie ends.

What's funny to me is, when people said they hated that Bay and Fox were involved, a lot of others said "We have nothing else to go on, let's wait." Then, we got some set pics, and some people didn't love them, and others said "This still tells us nothing, let's wait." So then we got some questionable cast/story news, and people said "we still haven't seen the Turtles, let's wait." So then, we get a look at the Turtles and Shredder, and when some people don't like them, a few others say, "We still need to see a poster..." Then we get a poster, and people are like, "Well, it's not the *official* poster," or, "Well, we need to see them in motion..." :lol:

If the movie ends up pleasing me, I'll say I liked it. But at the same time, I bet if it does suck, certain folks are gonna be like, "Well, maybe we still need to wait for the Director's Cut before we make a decision." :lol: The blind faith and desperate want/need to like the movie is puzzling, to me.

As if we can't already tell enough by NOW, as individuals, to form a preliminary opinion. :lol: A few months ago, I would have agreed. But we've seen enough in just the last week to say, Yes, some people are entirely justified in thinking they won't like it.

That said, I wanted to hate Man of Steel and I just couldn't. So ya never know.

I feel the same. I'm both dreading the film and looking forward to it. If I like it, I'll be surprised. If I dont, well then... oh well. I gave Dragonball Evolution a chance in theaters, knowing it be bad but not knowing just HOW bad. Last Airbender looked good from the trailers but was really... gross in it's full length.
That's where trailers make or break the movie. Or, really, any marketing.
Some posters dipect a movie's tone and "story" better than the movie does. Sometimes trailers show the best, most exciting stuff from the film and the actual movie falls on itself.

I love, and own, several movies that a general audience hates. I dont care. I loved them for what they are. It's even more fun when the clerk questions my purchases. Speed Racer and RIPD, both on BluRay, for example. Why am I wasting my money, I would be asked. And to buy them in HD?
Because, although not perfect movies, there are parts I enjoy enough to watch the movies again.
The Dark Knight Rises and Man Of Steel; two more movies I often see mentioned, even here on the 'Drome. Generally it seems these movies are disliked and tarnish a franchise. I think both are great films.

Only part of the poster I'm liking is Leonardo. Not sure if someone pointed it out, but it looks like Donnie is gonna be using a metal bo-staff.

I was pointing out a few things. The Staff was something I noted but didn't see anyone mention. Maybe it's something he created?
I think I'm still the only one to point out the kanji on Don's bandana tails.

[Leo656]

My personal default is to neck-punch anyone who questions Speed Racer. How so many people entirely missed the point on that one hurts me deeply. It's the most accurate cartoon-to-film adaptation ever made, essentially being a live-action cartoon all by itself. And it was so much Stupid Fun from beginning to end, that even what I wanted to hate - Mach 6 over the Mach 5 in all but one scene - I couldn't. I went out the very next day and got the Mach 5 tattoo. Other than Inspector Detector's accent, I wouldn't change a damn thing. They made exactly what a Speed Racer movie should be. Change even one thing, make it even a little more serious or ground it even one tiny bit in "reality", you unravel the entire thing. "Speed Racer" has a decades-long tradition of being the silliest, dumbest, most over-the-top batsh*t crazy thing you'd ever see, and I for one embrace that the movie was absolutely nothing more, or less, than the cartoon come to life. It was perfect. Specifically because, they didn't try to turn it into something it wasn't.

If some nitwit clerk ever questioned my DVD purchases, I'd leave. Especially if they try in the same breath to get me to pre-order some other POS. Game store clerks do that sooo much. I hate when I have to tell them I already own Big Game X and am specifically looking for something more niche and obscure. These people are ostensibly there to take a person's money in exchange for goods and services, not give commentary on personal taste.

[Universal_Adam]

What's funny to me is, when people said they hated that Bay and Fox were involved, a lot of others said "We have nothing else to go on, let's wait." Then, we got some set pics, and some people didn't love them, and others said "This still tells us nothing, let's wait." So then we got some questionable cast/story news, and people said "we still haven't seen the Turtles, let's wait." So then, we get a look at the Turtles and Shredder, and when some people don't like them, a few others say, "We still need to see a poster..." Then we get a poster, and people are like, "Well, it's not the *official* poster," or, "Well, we need to see them in motion..." :lol:

If the movie ends up pleasing me, I'll say I liked it. But at the same time, I bet if it does suck, certain folks are gonna be like, "Well, maybe we still need to wait for the Director's Cut before we make a decision." :lol: The blind faith and desperate want/need to like the movie is puzzling, to me.

As if we can't already tell enough by NOW, as individuals, to form a preliminary opinion. :lol: A few months ago, I would have agreed. But we've seen enough in just the last week to say, Yes, some people are entirely justified in thinking they won't like it.

That said, I wanted to hate Man of Steel and I just couldn't. So ya never know.


Maybe some people would just rather see a movie before trashing it. Perhaps some of us aren't willing to call a movie garbage based on things like nostrils, glasses and tattoos.

That's just how I see it.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Maybe some people would just rather see a movie before trashing it. Perhaps some of us aren't willing to call a movie garbage based on things like nostrils, glasses and tattoos.

That's just how I see it.

No it will definitely be the nostrils that ruin this movie. LOL.

[Leo656]

I still think nostrils and lips are the least of it. Maybe because I was prepared for them, but they don't jump out at me the way Donnie's overall horrid design does. There's way more wrong than the faces. They look a little "off", as do the bodies - particularly Raphael's "Hulked-Out" look - but it's the rest of it, the completely unnecessary "Image Comics 1993 X-Treme 2 Tha Max" outfit designs that kill it for me.

Variant figures in the toy line, sure, go for it. They'd be okay for that. But even then, they almost look more like stuff Playmates rejected.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Yea, Raphael's full head bandana is what bothers me the most. And then the extra gear they are wearing is the second offense.
I'm thinking it's more like a do-rag...

You've expressed your view and metephorical heigharchy that everyone on here must have the same view, and the only ones that matter have the same view as you. Your narcissistic views and false sense of superiority can only be surpassed by powders sophomoric jests about the mentally handicapped people.
I think his point was that... those guys (you included) really don't bring anything "new" to a discussion on the subject.
Broken records.
You on the Nick show, I can pretty much assume any post you make is meant to bash whatever is being discussed. Thus: Not adding anything more than repeating yourself.
BTW: Run spell check over those words. metaphorical, hierarchy.
My personal default is to neck-punch anyone who questions Speed Racer. How so many people entirely missed the point on that one hurts me deeply. It's the most accurate cartoon-to-film adaptation ever made, essentially being a live-action cartoon all by itself. And it was so much Stupid Fun from beginning to end, that even what I wanted to hate - Mach 6 over the Mach 5 in all but one scene - I couldn't. I went out the very next day and got the Mach 5 tattoo. Other than Inspector Detector's accent, I wouldn't change a damn thing. They made exactly what a Speed Racer movie should be. Change even one thing, make it even a little more serious or ground it even one tiny bit in "reality", you unravel the entire thing. "Speed Racer" has a decades-long tradition of being the silliest, dumbest, most over-the-top batsh*t crazy thing you'd ever see, and I for one embrace that the movie was absolutely nothing more, or less, than the cartoon come to life. It was perfect. Specifically because, they didn't try to turn it into something it wasn't.

If some nitwit clerk ever questioned my DVD purchases, I'd leave. Especially if they try in the same breath to get me to pre-order some other POS. Game store clerks do that sooo much. I hate when I have to tell them I already own Big Game X and am specifically looking for something more niche and obscure. These people are ostensibly there to take a person's money in exchange for goods and services, not give commentary on personal taste.
Exactly. The movie bombed and got horrible reviews and I just wonder... what were they expecting? And then I had people tell me that I should see it while on acid or 'shrooms or whatever. Nope, sorry. No point and that's just stupid.
I totally agree with your reflection on Speed Racer. I bought it on DVD and got my hands on the 2-disc store exclusive on DVD too. Once I upgraded to BluRay I kept the 2-disc and traded out the original DVD... which I kinda wish I didn't 'cus in the end, it only amounted for $1-2 in trade-in credit at Zia :-/ Oh well.
I thought Inspector Detector's accent was awesome and interesting. I had no problems with him. I felt Sprittle and Chim-Chim should have been "cut down" in a few areas, and the "turd" lines... but overall, nothing to break the movie for me.
John Goodman was perfect and Susan Sarandon needed more screen time but played her part well enough.

My fav sequence by far are the Casa Cristo race in the Mach 5.

I also own the soundtrack score and the single by "Ali Dee"... 'cus those were stupid fun too. :D
I buy it anyway. **** the haters lol I buy it proudly and support my interests, not the "know it all clerk". Sometimes the clerk is supportive but I know there are a number of buys where they question the choice.
Maybe some people would just rather see a movie before trashing it. Perhaps some of us aren't willing to call a movie garbage based on things like nostrils, glasses and tattoos.

That's just how I see it.

That's a totally different approach than the last 16 pages of this topic (not counting the others) have shown.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

I still think nostrils and lips are the least of it. Maybe because I was prepared for them, but they don't jump out at me the way Donnie's overall horrid design does. There's way more wrong than the faces. They look a little "off", as do the bodies - particularly Raphael's "Hulked-Out" look - but it's the rest of it, the completely unnecessary "Image Comics 1993 X-Treme 2 Tha Max" outfit designs that kill it for me.

Variant figures in the toy line, sure, go for it. They'd be okay for that. But even then, they almost look more like stuff Playmates rejected.

I want to like them more... I keep going back and looking at them... but, really... there is something off.
Enough that I have read different people responding back saying "my kid cried at the design".
I think some of the designs would be cool, but strip the rest of it back. Donnie with goggles? Cool. I can live with that. But the rest of the stuff? Tapped glasses? No thanks (again, I'll point out that neither Mike or Raph have broken glasses thus debunking an earlier theory that Don fit his glasses for his mutant turtle head shape.)

This is very early 90s "Extreme"... and most of that stuff didn't live out to the latter half of the decade.


EDIT:
I found this on another site, But I really like these designs.
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/Ryan_Comstock-McMurry/tmnt-llamos-ban_zpsd9c6d3ce.jpg
They are familiar while adding a few new touches. Mikey's look is funny, keepy the shoes from the current look and wearing a "My name is" sticker.

But, again, I will watch this movie and I will reserve judgement until the credits roll. If I enjoy it: awesome. I'll watch it again and support it.
If it's garbage, at least there are successful cartoons and 3 previous movies I enjoy (I'll give you a hint, it's not TMNT 3 included in that).
I really liked Bad Boys 2, if it can be anywhere in that "tone" or pace or sense of action... it be nice.

[Refractive Reflections]

I want to like them more... I keep going back and looking at them... but, really... there is something off.
Enough that I have read different people responding back saying "my kid cried at the design".
I think some of the designs would be cool, but strip the rest of it back. Donnie with goggles? Cool. I can live with that. But the rest of the stuff? Tapped glasses? No thanks (again, I'll point out that neither Mike or Raph have broken glasses thus debunking an earlier theory that Don fit his glasses for his mutant turtle head shape.)

This is very early 90s "Extreme"... and most of that stuff didn't live out to the latter half of the decade.

It's funny how this Donatello could devise any type of abstract scientific gadget, but yet can't even fix his own glasses (which is why I'm assuming it's taped), make a pair that fits, or at least make contacts (considering he's going to be ninja fighting). :lol:

EDIT:
I found this on another site, But I really like these designs.
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/Ryan_Comstock-McMurry/tmnt-llamos-ban_zpsd9c6d3ce.jpg

Now those designs I could get behind, they have the right light touch of their personalities.

[Leo656]

Good Gawd was Goodman beyond perfect in that movie. And Good Gawd, were Sarandon's jugs spectacular in that movie (I'm kinda into older chicks, and by "kinda" I mean "Very"). I could have used more Ricci/Trixie, for sure, and a little less Spritle/Chim-Chim, but the rest was soooo gooood. How would drugs improve that movie in any way?

And I didn't hate Detector's accent, but I wasn't expecting it. We got Snake Oiler and the GRX and Ambiguously Gay Sparky. What in the hell more can anyone ask? Totally watching it this weekend, thanks buddy.

"More like a NON-ja. TERRIBLE what passes for a Ninja these days..." :lol::lol::lol:

[snooz]

I don't know where else to put this but it really isn't worth a new thread… I just noticed that the tag line for this movie has changed on IMDB

It now says "Cowabunga comes back"

that is in place of the old description which was 'aliens invade earth and inadvertently spawn a quartet of mutant turtles who rise up against them to defend the planet' ...or something to that effect.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

It's funny how this Donatello could devise any type of abstract scientific gadget, but yet can't even fix his own glasses (which is why I'm assuming it's taped), make a pair that fits, or at least make contacts (considering he's going to be ninja fighting). :lol:



Now those designs I could get behind, they have the right light touch of their personalities.
The science and reason for Donnie making adjustments to his gear is fine. I can get behind that. He's the smartypants of the bunch.
But to say he fashioned them to fit his turtle shaped head... while the other turtles are all wearing normal, non-reformed glasses makes Don's reason void. His head isn't any more different than his brothers. Therefore the tapped glasses only serve to give him the "nerd/geek" stereotype.

Good Gawd was Goodman beyond perfect in that movie. And Good Gawd, were Sarandon's jugs spectacular in that movie (I'm kinda into older chicks, and by "kinda" I mean "Very"). I could have used more Ricci/Trixie, for sure, and a little less Spritle/Chim-Chim, but the rest was soooo gooood. How would drugs improve that movie in any way?

And I didn't hate Detector's accent, but I wasn't expecting it. We got Snake Oiler and the GRX and Ambiguously Gay Sparky. What in the hell more can anyone ask? Totally watching it this weekend, thanks buddy.

"More like a NON-ja. TERRIBLE what passes for a Ninja these days..." :lol::lol::lol:
I declare we use "NON-JA" if this movie is as bad as it could be. ;)
Oh yea, Sarandon was total MILF and Ricci was very cute and needed more screen time also... atleast in exchange for ChimChim/Spritle's screen time lol

I think the idea for the drugs were because of how bright and vibrant the visuals of the movie were, and over the top the action was. Apparently its quite "trippy". Ppsh.

[Leo656]

As if seeing a car do a flying dropkick to another car while doing a giant loop-the-loop on a psychadelic racetrack wasn't "trippy" enough? And c'mon man, that ninja fight scene... COME ON, man... :lol:

And I think NON-ja is long overdue for a comeback. "Twerk" makes it into the dictionary, and yet...

[Refractive Reflections]

The science and reason for Donnie making adjustments to his gear is fine. I can get behind that. He's the smartypants of the bunch.
But to say he fashioned them to fit his turtle shaped head... while the other turtles are all wearing normal, non-reformed glasses makes Don's reason void. His head isn't any more different than his brothers. Therefore the tapped glasses only serve to give him the "nerd/geek" stereotype.


Exactly, which leads to my extreme visual stereotyping notion (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1203115&postcount=132). But I better stop my complaining :P (at least for some time), otherwise I'll be sounding like CyberCubed. :lol:

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

As if seeing a car do a flying dropkick to another car while doing a giant loop-the-loop on a psychadelic racetrack wasn't "trippy" enough? And c'mon man, that ninja fight scene... COME ON, man... :lol:

And I think NON-ja is long overdue for a comeback. "Twerk" makes it into the dictionary, and yet...
Michael Bay Presents
Teenage Mutant Non-ja Turtles :lol:
Let's reserve that name if this movie is pure crap!

Exactly, which leads to my extreme visual stereotyping notion (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1203115&postcount=132). But I better stop my complaining :P (at least for some time), otherwise I'll be sounding like CyberCubed. :lol:
And NOBODY wants that lol.
I think we were agreeing on the same thing but I thought you might have been saying different

[turtlefanforever]

We are all expecting this to be so bad that we might actually end up liking it. I still think it'll be terrible but all our expectations are so low and odds are there will be some positive (yet very few) aspects of this movie that make you go hey, that's pretty cool or it's not a total disapointment.

[Leo656]

I kinda liked the lair, I thought that was a good step in the right direction, mostly. Then they went and overdid it with Donnie having more monitors than the Batcave.

That's pretty much been all of it, so far: interesting ideas over-thought into farcical self-parody. Also known as "trying way too hard." :ohwell:

[turtlefanforever]

As nervous as I am about the Turtles and as much as I'm dreading seeing Bay's Shredder, I'm most nervous about Splinter.

Because THIS guy is playing him:

http://i.imgur.com/6wtljZp.jpg?1

Yeah the guy who hung out with Kramer on Seinfeld is playing either Japanese man/ninja master turned anthropomorphic rat Hamato Yoshi OR pet Japanese rat of Japanese ninja master Hamato Yoshi(I myself prefer the latter. The mutated pet rat of murdered Hamato Yoshi).

So...balls.

Splinter is gonna be waddling his way around everywhere. I don't know many dwarf actors but I see the only reason he was cast was because of his stature. Given he's probably the most name of them besides Vern troyer I just feel they could have found someone else of that stature, preferably someone Japanese.

[BabyTurtles]

Splinter is gonna be waddling his way around everywhere. I don't know many dwarf actors but I see the only reason he was cast was because of his stature. Given he's probably the most name of them besides Vern troyer I just feel they could have found someone else of that stature, preferably someone Japanese.

not that I mind a shorter Splinter, but I got kinda used to a taller younger Splinter like in Nick.

oh well, this Splinter might be as cool as yoda~ we'll see.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

It took me awhile to get used to Nick's tall Splinter... but I have and he's badass... and as wise as Yoda.
No cheap fortune cookie talk.

[TrickOrTreater]

I have to say I really like tall Splinter in the nick cartoon too, but I'm not even really talking about the size.

I'm talking about the way this guy sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biexdHnqM64

Now think about how all the other Splinters in the past/present have sounded.

Unless this guy can do an AMAZING "wise, Japanese martial arts master" voice, it's going to sound ridiculous.

And I haven't heard of anyone being cast to dub over his voice in the final product(which I doubt they'd do anyway, because why bother to get a semi-recognizable working actor for the role if you're just going to dub his voice over anyway).

Just...goddammit.

[Technogeek29]

Have you ever even read the mirage comics?

Not much variation between the Turtles...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha:tlol::lol::tlol::lo l::tlol::lol:

Did you seriously ask Andrew if he read the Mirage comics?

As for telling them apart, I never had that much trouble normally I just read what someone says and often times end up being right. I can't count the number of times when telling them apart was a issue. I don't mind that they wanted to make their Turtles look different, What I do mind is the thought (lack there of) put into said designs.

[Candy Kappa]

Looks like til be called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles after all. And we get official pics soon!

"The Hasbro promo art was on display in at the Nurnburg Toy Fair in Germany. It's a similar display to the one that will be at the Int. Toy Fair in NYC next week. Full reveal of the toy line (digital images) will be next week, probably on Thursday.

The movie is being called Ninja Turtles in most of Europe and Asia. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the US, UK and other English markets.

I saw the Splinter figure. He's freaking scary. Looks like a sewer rat. IRL should be significantly smaller than the Turtles. He's got the Fu Manchu facial hair but it's more subdued that the animated movie."

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=472767&page=5

Wait... Hasbro?

[Zulithe]

Seriously if HASBRO is handling the movie toys that would be interesting... if only because I want to see if they can top Playmates.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

I have to say I really like tall Splinter in the nick cartoon too, but I'm not even really talking about the size.

I'm talking about the way this guy sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biexdHnqM64

Now think about how all the other Splinters in the past/present have sounded.

Unless this guy can do an AMAZING "wise, Japanese martial arts master" voice, it's going to sound ridiculous.

And I haven't heard of anyone being cast to dub over his voice in the final product(which I doubt they'd do anyway, because why bother to get a semi-recognizable working actor for the role if you're just going to dub his voice over anyway).

Just...goddammit.

**** that! Uuuggghhh

[Candy Kappa]

Going with the Rat origin, it isn't implausible that Splinter speaks like an American, or as a New Yorker. different sure, but if he developed the ability to speak and learned to speak in America, why would he have a Japanese accent?

He might be speaking perfect Japanese without sounding like a beginner weeaboo, but shouldn't he also speak proper English sounding like an American?

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Get Kevin Clash out of retirement

[TrickOrTreater]

Going with the Rat origin, it isn't implausible that Splinter speaks like an American, or as a New Yorker. different sure, but if he developed the ability to speak and learned to speak in America, why would he have a Japanese accent?

He might be speaking perfect Japanese without sounding like a beginner weeaboo, but shouldn't he also speak proper English sounding like an American?

Oh my god no. No. Jesus no.

I don't want Splinter to sound "American." Let alone to sound like a New Yorker.

He's the only thing that ties the Turtles back to Ninjutsu. Whether he's Hamato Yoshi turned humanoid rat or the pet rat of Hamato Yoshi turned humanoid rat.

Given how small he's apparently going to be it's probably going to be Yoshi's pet rat and not Yoshi himself.

I just hope upon hope they dub Woodburn's voice with somebody who at least sounds like a wise, japanese ninjutsu master.

[Candy Kappa]

What does accent have anything to do with Modern taijutsu "ninjutsu" anyway?

[TrickOrTreater]

What does accent have anything to do with Modern taijutsu "ninjutsu" anyway?

Why do you want Splinter to sound like a new yorker when I'm pretty sure he never, ever has before?

[Candy Kappa]

Why do you want Splinter to sound like a new yorker when I'm pretty sure he never, ever has before?

I don't, but he still doesn't need to sound stereotypical Asian, when as a rat he learned to speak in New York, unless he adopted Yoshi's speech pattern by memory like he did with the martial arts part.

[TrickOrTreater]

There's nothing stereotypical about it if they get a Japanese actor to play the Japanese characters.

You know who they should have gotten for Splinter if they were at all competent?

Hiroyuki Sanada.

Great actor. Japanese. Great voice for Splinter.

But nah. Danny Woodburn. Racebending strikes again.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

These aren't turtles. They're monsters.

We are talking about mutated turtles. Of course they aren't going to be pretty.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crisler%27s+law

[Jester]

But...Splinter's a rat. Rats have no race.

[Candy Kappa]

But, If they are going for the rat origin, Splinter is a rat, not human. Sure he's a pet rat from Japan, but he probably never spoke when he was in Japan.

There's no doubt there where better choices and I personally really liked Mako's voice for Splinter and the Nick Splinter is excellent. But all in all, splinter not having a Asian flavor to his accent isn't the biggest crime of this movie.

It isn't race bending if he wasn't a Asian human to begin with, Shredder on the other hand...

[TrickOrTreater]

But...Splinter's a rat. Rats have no race.

Unless he used to be Hamato Yoshi.

Then it's racebending.

[Candy Kappa]

It would be, we remain to see which origin they use.

[D Piddy 1982]

I'm new here, and I haven't been able to go through all 17 pages of this thread but I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of negativity from what seems to be a large percentage of forumers (fans) on here about this movie.

I think it's really exciting that they are making a new live action movie, I also think these designs look great, to me they look like a TMNT would look if they were real. I mean, the 1990 film TMNT's were great, but they can't just go with that exact look again.

I only have 2 fears for this movie.

1. The Turtles themselves aren't the main focus of the movie. I know I read a rumour ages ago that the film would centre around Casey and April (similar to how Transformers was done). That would be a crying shame if it didn't centre around the TMNT, like they pulled off in the 1990 film.

2. This fear has been placated a bit now, but I HATE 100% CGI characters, they just never, ever look real. And CGI sets. But since I saw the pic of the actors in the suits that I guess they will overlay CGI onto, at least movement etc will be realistic.

I base my hatred on CGI on the cr*p that is Star Wars: Attack of the Clones...

Anyway slightly off topic...I'm really optimistic about this new film, and I'm a big fan of the designs shown here. Radical!

[Commenter 42]

I base my hatred on CGI on the cr*p that is Star Wars: Attack of the Clones...



Not a fair assessment of CG! - using a film from 2002 as the benchmark.
You might want to give Benjamin Button a watch (2008 ).
or Life of Pi...
or Kon Tiki...

Moore's law and all...

[unlundun]

I'm new here, and I haven't been able to go through all 17 pages of this thread but I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of negativity from what seems to be a large percentage of forumers (fans) on here about this movie.

I think it's really exciting that they are making a new live action movie, I also think these designs look great, to me they look like a TMNT would look if they were real. I mean, the 1990 film TMNT's were great, but they can't just go with that exact look again.

I only have 2 fears for this movie.

1. The Turtles themselves aren't the main focus of the movie. I know I read a rumour ages ago that the film would centre around Casey and April (similar to how Transformers was done). That would be a crying shame if it didn't centre around the TMNT, like they pulled off in the 1990 film.

2. This fear has been placated a bit now, but I HATE 100% CGI characters, they just never, ever look real. And CGI sets. But since I saw the pic of the actors in the suits that I guess they will overlay CGI onto, at least movement etc will be realistic.

I base my hatred on CGI on the cr*p that is Star Wars: Attack of the Clones...

Anyway slightly off topic...I'm really optimistic about this new film, and I'm a big fan of the designs shown here. Radical!

this forum is horribly negative but there are a few people here who are genuinely excited. I for one cannot wait, over 20 years of love for the TMNT, every iteration has it positives. I think the designs are amazing, lots of work went into them and it shows. They look like mutated humanoid turtles. And to be honest...the 1990 film turtles were not attractive, they just looked a lot like the cartoon turtles, I still loved them, and i really love these.

[Leonardo87]

this forum is horribly negative but there are a few people here who are genuinely excited. I for one cannot wait, over 20 years of love for the TMNT, every iteration has it positives. I think the designs are amazing, lots of work went into them and it shows. They look like mutated humanoid turtles. And to be honest...the 1990 film turtles were not attractive, they just looked a lot like the cartoon turtles, I still loved them, and i really love these.

I'm sorry to say but the 1990 film suits do not look like the Fred Wolf series; they were based on Eastman and Laird's art in the Mirage comics. They're the best looking suits to date.

[Aaronardo]

I found this on another site, But I really like these designs.
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/Ryan_Comstock-McMurry/tmnt-llamos-ban_zpsd9c6d3ce.jpg


PLEASE have that be the ones in the movie. THOSE are actually really good! **** the poster's ones! If they don't use these, I will EXPLODE!

Explode.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I'm actually hoping that they stick with those designs. To Hell with trying to make it look realistic, just make it fun.

[Powder]

I like how the new members are the ones praising the poster. I can't help but wonder if they're not casual fans who've returned the property after god knows how long and thus aren't invested enough to care.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I like how the new members are the ones praising the poster. I can't help but wonder if they're not casual fans who've returned the property after god knows how long and thus aren't invested enough to care.

Coincidence?

[D Piddy 1982]

It's a shame that there are a few that think unless you've been registered on the forum for years or made 1000's of posts, you're opinion doesn't count, or you've "been out of the loop".

Yes you're all experienced Technodrome forumers. I am not.

However I'm an experienced TMNT fan who still follows what's going on, to an extent.

My original point that probably got lost was that I was genuinely surprised at how much people are hating on these designs. When I look at the poster, for example, I can't help but see anything other then something that resembles almost to the dot the TMNT as we know them. How the designs can be hated so much is beyond me. But then we're all entitled to an opinion.

Anyway...don't mean to step on anyone's toes or upset anyone so maybe I'll keep my head down on here for a bit...

[Dākunaito]

I only have like 30 posts and I can honestly say I've never felt disrespected or degraded because of lack of posts although I tend to just soak up all the info from people who have a lot of posts. :tcool:

[CowabungaMikey]

Yup, that's the Technodrome for you. It's like high school, the bigger ones bullying on the smaller people.

[plastroncafe]

We have achieved Snacky's Law!
Mark your BINGO cards accordingly.

[AquaParade]

I showed the "figure" designs to my student's the other day and they were quite perplexed but intrigued at the same time. They seemed anxious to see the film after seeing the designs.

They are elementary school kids and dealt with it fine. Weren't people saying an eight year old child cried at the sight of these designs? That seem's incredibly ridiculous and is definitely an issue with the child more so than the designs.

[Bob]

IThey are elementary school kids and dealt with it fine. Weren't people saying an eight year old child cried at the sight of these designs? That seem's incredibly ridiculous and is definitely an issue with the child more so than the designs.

Yep. They don't look "scary" at all. Maybe in that poster Raphael looks a bit on the brutal side, but definitely not frightening.

[ZariusTwo]

Yep. They don't look "scary" at all. Maybe in that poster Raphael looks a bit on the brutal side, but definitely not frightening.

Hell Raphael aint even half as accesorized or as hulking in the first movie, and the scream when he realizes Splinter is captured is damn near one of the most chilling scenes I've ever seen in the Turtle medium

[CowabungaMikey]

We have achieved Snacky's Law!
Mark your BINGO cards accordingly.

Hehe.

Posttooshort

[Sabacooza]

How the designs can be hated so much is beyond me. Most of the reason, for me anyway is that they look too human. Raph's face looks bad with Mikey easily being the worst. I'm sure the reason behind their choice for facial features comes from them wanting to capture the look of the actors which really isn't necessary if it results in a look that's less than desirable. if all you saw were their faces without bandanas, you'd swear they were from a new Shrek movie. It's not the most horrible thing I've seen but they could have put way more effort into making them look like turtles.

[slingtheory]

It's a shame that there are a few that think unless you've been registered on the forum for years or made 1000's of posts, you're opinion doesn't count, or you've "been out of the loop".

Yes you're all experienced Technodrome forumers. I am not.

However I'm an experienced TMNT fan who still follows what's going on, to an extent.

My original point that probably got lost was that I was genuinely surprised at how much people are hating on these designs. When I look at the poster, for example, I can't help but see anything other then something that resembles almost to the dot the TMNT as we know them. How the designs can be hated so much is beyond me. But then we're all entitled to an opinion.

Anyway...don't mean to step on anyone's toes or upset anyone so maybe I'll keep my head down on here for a bit...

No need to keep your head down bro this is a forum after all and its purpose is for fans to express their opinions. We don't all need to agree on everything we're here to talk about what we like and dislike with other fans. That being said I'm not too big a fan of the designs. Yes they resemble the turtles as we know them but wrapped in a lot of unnessesary. Its like spidermans costume in the first amazing spiderman change for the sake of change. At best its someones attempt to flex their artistic muscle and at worse its shameless corporate pandering. I can only hope that some of this gear actully serves some purpose beyond just having the characters wear their identitys on their sleeves so to speak.

[turtlefanforever]

It's a shame that there are a few that think unless you've been registered on the forum for years or made 1000's of posts, you're opinion doesn't count, or you've "been out of the loop".

Yes you're all experienced Technodrome forumers. I am not.

However I'm an experienced TMNT fan who still follows what's going on, to an extent.

My original point that probably got lost was that I was genuinely surprised at how much people are hating on these designs. When I look at the poster, for example, I can't help but see anything other then something that resembles almost to the dot the TMNT as we know them. How the designs can be hated so much is beyond me. But then we're all entitled to an opinion.

Anyway...don't mean to step on anyone's toes or upset anyone so maybe I'll keep my head down on here for a bit...
They'll get used to you soon enough just stick around. For the most part we're all here for the same reason.

[Cure]

I like how the new members are the ones praising the poster. I can't help but wonder if they're not casual fans who've returned the property after god knows how long and thus aren't invested enough to care.

Quiet, I like the poster just fine.

[CyberCubed]

Casuals like the designs, I am not surprised .

[CatalaReturns]

It's a shame that there are a few that think unless you've been registered on the forum for years or made 1000's of posts, you're opinion doesn't count, or you've "been out of the loop".

Yes you're all experienced Technodrome forumers. I am not.

However I'm an experienced TMNT fan who still follows what's going on, to an extent.

My original point that probably got lost was that I was genuinely surprised at how much people are hating on these designs. When I look at the poster, for example, I can't help but see anything other then something that resembles almost to the dot the TMNT as we know them. How the designs can be hated so much is beyond me. But then we're all entitled to an opinion.

Anyway...don't mean to step on anyone's toes or upset anyone so maybe I'll keep my head down on here for a bit...

I concur!

While I might be "new" to the forum, I am totally not new to TMNT. I've been a lifelong fan who spent the majority of my childhood and early adulthood worshiping them to the point of annoyance the part of my friends and family. At one point I was active in 32 groups - half of them RPGS. Many with other members from this forum.

What happened? Life, my darling. Life happens. I went to college, got married, bought a house, began a homestead, am now going through grad school, have a two year old son, am active in local politics, and am working on a grassroots campaign here in my lovely state.

Things get a bit busy when you have a life outside of the internet. :trolleye:

[plastroncafe]

Casuals

Seriously? That's how we're going to start dismissing the opinions that don't mirror our own? So we've cut right over the notion of "plants" and "shills" and have cut straight to demanding geek credentials. Cripes that's pathetic.

The things geeks feel they have to do to make themselves feel tall.

[ironman29758]

Casuals

Seriously? That's how we're going to start dismissing the opinions that don't mirror our own? So we've cut right over the notion of "plants" and "shills" and have cut straight to demanding geek credentials. Cripes that's pathetic.

The things geeks feel they have to do to make themselves feel tall.

right? that's the type of things that can get old quick when it come to some fan boards. We're all TMNT fans, Mirage, Nick, IGN, and even this upcoming movie.They're is really no difference between us.

As for the design while I'm not totally crazy about it looks pretty decent and got me a little hopeful on how it will look in motion in a trailer or full screen.

[snooz]

I like how the new members are the ones praising the poster. I can't help but wonder if they're not casual fans who've returned the property after god knows how long and thus aren't invested enough to care.

I want to address this because I would be one of the many people under this umbrella, but I am not a casual fan.

The making of this movie is the reason why I ended up registering for membership on this forum. I had checked in here occasionally for a long time before that. I've been a fan virtually since the day I was born because my older brother started watching the cartoon from the first episode (I was born in 87). I own all seasons of the OT on DVD, the four movies (5 including turtles forever) and have a large collection of various TMNT memorabilia.

I realize that this isn't all about everyone qualifying themselves as 'fan enough' to weigh in on the news of this movie as it comes out, but there are probably many people like myself who registered here because news is really starting to surface. TMNT is a massive brand, and certainly there are many people who haven't looked at a piece of TMNT anything since their childhood and are now expressing their interest in this movie. But there are also very likely a great deal of fans like myself who never lost interest, but didn't feel the need to come and discuss it on a message forum every day. I've probably watched each of the live action movies 2-3 times a year (maybe once once a year for the 3rd movie..) for as long as I can remember. I would think that the people who feel interested enough to come register and post on a TMNT message forum can at least match my level of interest.



There are a great deal of you 'senior' members here who are worse than religious people when it comes to TMNT. It is sad. (Powder, you are excluded from this in my opinion)

[ironman29758]

I concur!

While I might be "new" to the forum, I am totally not new to TMNT. I've been a lifelong fan who spent the majority of my childhood and early adulthood worshiping them to the point of annoyance the part of my friends and family. At one point I was active in 32 groups - half of them RPGS. Many with other members from this forum.

What happened? Life, my darling. Life happens. I went to college, got married, bought a house, began a homestead, am now going through grad school, have a two year old son, am active in local politics, and am working on a grassroots campaign here in my lovely state.

Things get a bit busy when you have a life outside of the internet. :trolleye:

agreed. Life happens, I got college, a job and try to do stuff outside of coming on other boards. While I love reading other people's opinions and have debates with them but some people can be difficult to deal with. I came around the first few episodes of the 2012 cartoon and I want to know more about TMNT but I can't always interested. just because I don't come here that often doesn't mean I'm simply a casual fan of TMNT like snooz said

[blindturtle02]

Guys, just ignore the folks who are giving you a difficult time. Sounds to me like they need to grow up anyway. Don't let the minority who enjoy picking on newcomers around here ruin your TMNT experience. I can safely say that the majority of dromers I've met are terrific guys and gals. We welcome your thoughts. I'll bet the same thing has happened to the individuals who are dishing it out, although they'd never admit it. The whole hazing/litmus test bit is just so... middleschool. And yeah, just because folks aren't able to visit every day in no way makes them casual fans. Some people need to go examine the word assume very carefully, sounds like.

[ironman29758]

Guys, just ignore the folks who are giving you a difficult time. Sounds to me like they need to grow up anyway. Don't let the minority who enjoy picking on newcomers around here ruin your TMNT experience. I can safely say that the majority of dromers I've met are terrific guys and gals. We welcome your thoughts. I'll bet the same thing has happened to the individuals who are dishing it out, although they'd never admit it. The whole hazing/litmus test bit is just so... middleschool. And yeah, just because folks aren't able to visit every day in no way makes them casual fans. Some people need to go examine the word assume very carefully, sounds like.

I know there have been great people who are really great peopple like Baby Turtle or Powder and are cool about it for the most part and don't really care how many posts you got. But still. If I could like your post I would.

[mgambino]

My first impression of the designs is unfavorable, but I think that I'll have to wait until I see how the turtles look in motion before I make up my mind.

[Raphael232]

I like it, they look good and for a dark turtles movie they look perfect. Now if this was made for little kids to watch like TMNT 3, yeah I guess they would look bad. But these turtles are going to be bad ass so it makes sense to make them look bad ass.

[CatalaReturns]

I like it, they look good and for a dark turtles movie they look perfect. Now if this was made for little kids to watch like TMNT 3, yeah I guess they would look bad. But these turtles are going to be bad ass so it makes sense to make them look bad ass.

Amen. The way I figure it, this movie is totally aimed at the parents of the new Nick generation and the older sibs of said generation. It's a great marketing tactic to sucker the whole family into loving the TMNT, either for the first time around or as a "second wind."

That being said, the hubster was heartbroken that wasn't going to be Nick-style or a follow up to the 2007 movie.

[TrickOrTreater]

Nothing says dark Turtles movie like this
http://i.imgur.com/zH2TZqK.jpg?1

And Will Arnett as Vernon and Whoopie Goldberg as Bern.

[MrTMNT2012]

Nothing says dark Turtles movie like this
http://i.imgur.com/zH2TZqK.jpg?1

And Will Arnett as Vernon and Whoopie Goldberg as Bern.

Well obviously there needs to be a balance. If the movie's completely dark or entirely goofy then that's just making the whole film very one-note which is definitely NOT good.

Just ask Man of Steel....

[TrickOrTreater]

Well obviously there needs to be a balance. If the movie's completely dark or entirely goofy then that's just making the whole film very one-note which is definitely NOT good.

Just ask Man of Steel....

Man of Steel had subtle comedic moments that didn't clash with the more dramatic elements of the movie at large.

It worked quite well.

Will Arnette and Whoopi Goldberg in a TMNT movie produced by Michael Bay will not be as subtle or as far between.

[MrTMNT2012]

That female soldier saying 'I think he's kind of hot!' Right after the biggest dramatic scene in the movie would strongly argue against what you just said.

[slingtheory]

I like it, they look good and for a dark turtles movie they look perfect. Now if this was made for little kids to watch like TMNT 3, yeah I guess they would look bad. But these turtles are going to be bad ass so it makes sense to make them look bad ass.

You know based on what we've seen so far dark isn't the word that comes to mind. We got ot elements like aprils channel 6 coworkers and I don't think anybody can convince me the turtles were designed mainly with adults in mind

[TrickOrTreater]

That female soldier saying 'I think he's kind of hot!' Right after the biggest dramatic scene in the movie would strongly argue against what you just said.

You mean right after Superman crashes a billion dollar drone and a general calls him "effing stupid"?

Yeah I think it fits pretty well right there.

[Chris]

You mean right after Superman crashes a billion dollar drone and a general calls him "effing stupid"?

Yeah I think it fits pretty well right there.

To be honest that whole scene felt misplaced to me. On its own I love it and the whole "I'm here to help but on my terms" is the Superman I want to see more of in MoS2/BvS, but coming straight after Zod's death it's just got the wrong tone. One second Superman is on his knees, distraught at the price of victory, the next he's joking that "it was" a billion dollar satellite. It felt wrong. I know the grave yard scene with Martha led into the Daily Planet ending but it would have fit better after Zod's death, then have the drone scene then the Planet ending (slightly reworking the lead in). To be honest it feels like when they rewrote the battle of Metropolis to end with Zod's death, they didn't bother to rewrite the rest of the ending to reflect it properly.

[turtlefanforever]

Just a horrid horrid movie. Hours of my life I will never get back. You can't even argue any good from it. It was terrible through and through, just like the dark night rises. Superhero movies have been goin down the drain lately.

[Raven]

Just a horrid horrid movie. Hours of my life I will never get back. You can't even argue any good from it. It was terrible through and through, just like the dark night rises. Superhero movies have been goin down the drain lately.

You seem like you have a very optimistic look on life.

[BabyTurtles]

Just a horrid horrid movie. Hours of my life I will never get back. You can't even argue any good from it. It was terrible through and through, just like the dark night rises. Superhero movies have been goin down the drain lately.

I loved Avengers XD

and all the Ironman movies.

[Powder]

It's a shame that there are a few that think unless you've been registered on the forum for years or made 1000's of posts, you're opinion doesn't count, or you've "been out of the loop".


Nobody said your opinion doesn't count. Nobody. & what I said was just a passing thought- that there are certain kinds of people who only come around because they've reconnected with the property but don't understand the fandom at all, and I wondered if we would have a bunch with all this movie news afoot.

I only have like 30 posts and I can honestly say I've never felt disrespected or degraded because of lack of posts although I tend to just soak up all the info from people who have a lot of posts. :tcool:

No-one ever uses post count as an insult (unless it's when folks say having a high one means you're a loser somehow). Post count means nothing. One of the highest post counts on this site belongs to a guy whose every comment is a 2-3 word reiteration of what someone else said. Others with 200 & below offer nothing less than incite.


The things geeks feel they have to do to make themselves feel tall.

Ironic coming from someone who uses feminism as a tool to belittle others.

There are a great deal of you 'senior' members here who are worse than religious people when it comes to TMNT. It is sad. (Powder, you are excluded from this in my opinion)

Hell, I can be that way plenty. :trazz:

Don't let the minority who enjoy picking on newcomers around here ruin your TMNT experience.

There is not one person on this board who picks on newcomers. Stop it.

I know there have been great people who are really great peopple like Baby Turtle or Powder and are cool about it for the most part and don't really care how many posts you got. But still. If I could like your post I would.

Some of the smartest most clever contributors to this site have a low post count, yep.

[Bob]

Just a horrid horrid movie. Hours of my life I will never get back. You can't even argue any good from it. It was terrible through and through, just like the dark night rises. Superhero movies have been goin down the drain lately.

Yeah, none of that’s true.

[turtlefanforever]

You seem like you have a very optimistic look on life.
Those movies were just terrible.
I loved Avengers XD

and all the Ironman movies.

The last ironman movie was hard to follow and all and all poorly done. I don't get how anyone liked that too, and I find it difficult to take a villain seriously named after an orange. And the avengers was fine but the way it was built up, it was the biggest let down in movie history. That movie had SO much potential and it completely failed to meet any expectation. And right when the fight scene happens and the movie starts to get good; IT'S OVER! I thought it was just the middle of the movie. Terrible long and drawn out. But it was an ok movie, just huge let down. The marvel movies are usually always good just DC isn't putting the best product out lately. Including the green lantern.

[BabyTurtles]

Those movies were just terrible.


The last ironman movie was hard to follow and all and all poorly done. I don't get how anyone liked that too, and I find it difficult to take a villain seriously named after an orange. And the avengers was fine but the way it was built up, it was the biggest let down in movie history. That movie had SO much potential and it completely failed to meet any expectation. And right when the fight scene happens and the movie starts to get good; IT'S OVER! I thought it was just the middle of the movie. Terrible long and drawn out. But it was an ok movie, just huge let down. The marvel movies are usually always good just DC isn't putting the best product out lately. Including the green lantern.

well everyone has a different opinion :)

just like the people who like the new turtle designs :3

[TrickOrTreater]

To be honest that whole scene felt misplaced to me. On its own I love it and the whole "I'm here to help but on my terms" is the Superman I want to see more of in MoS2/BvS, but coming straight after Zod's death it's just got the wrong tone. One second Superman is on his knees, distraught at the price of victory, the next he's joking that "it was" a billion dollar satellite. It felt wrong. I know the grave yard scene with Martha led into the Daily Planet ending but it would have fit better after Zod's death, then have the drone scene then the Planet ending (slightly reworking the lead in). To be honest it feels like when they rewrote the battle of Metropolis to end with Zod's death, they didn't bother to rewrite the rest of the ending to reflect it properly.

Time passed between those moments. So in the context of the movie it wasn't really that jarring.

[Raven]

How was iron man 3 hard to follow? It was so basic and easy to figure out what was going to happen next.

[chrisdude]

To be honest that whole scene felt misplaced to me. On its own I love it and the whole "I'm here to help but on my terms" is the Superman I want to see more of in MoS2/BvS, but coming straight after Zod's death it's just got the wrong tone. One second Superman is on his knees, distraught at the price of victory, the next he's joking that "it was" a billion dollar satellite. It felt wrong. I know the grave yard scene with Martha led into the Daily Planet ending but it would have fit better after Zod's death, then have the drone scene then the Planet ending (slightly reworking the lead in). To be honest it feels like when they rewrote the battle of Metropolis to end with Zod's death, they didn't bother to rewrite the rest of the ending to reflect it properly.Yeah. The ending rubbed people the wrong way.

That movie got so much right, while feeling so wrong. I feel like there was a big disconnect between the writing of the story, and its depiction on screen. Pretty much all the complaints people have about the movie are things like, "This doesn't look right," or "That doesn't feel right." Basically, a bunch of situations when one may think, "I doubt Nolan and Goyer saw it this way in their heads."

Then you have Snyder, multiple times, defending the movie by saying what he intended to get across. And that's the director's whole job - to show you what you're supposed to perceive. And if lots of people don't get what you wanted them to, that must be a failure on the director's part.

Those movies were just terrible.


The last ironman movie was hard to follow and all and all poorly done. I don't get how anyone liked that too, and I find it difficult to take a villain seriously named after an orange. And the avengers was fine but the way it was built up, it was the biggest let down in movie history. That movie had SO much potential and it completely failed to meet any expectation. And right when the fight scene happens and the movie starts to get good; IT'S OVER! I thought it was just the middle of the movie. Terrible long and drawn out. But it was an ok movie, just huge let down. The marvel movies are usually always good just DC isn't putting the best product out lately. Including the green lantern....You're on your own...

[plastroncafe]

Ironic coming from someone who uses feminism as a tool to belittle others.

I've got to slake my never ending thirst for man-tears some how.

[ironman29758]

I loved Avengers XD

and all the Ironman movies.

I love most of the Marvel Movies(I haven't seen Iron Man 3, and Thor: The Dark World), the chris nolan trilogy, all of the Spider-Man movies(including the amazing spider-man and I thought Spider-Man 3 was decent with a lot of flaws) and a lot of most modern superhero movies. Man of Steel was decent but it had a lot of disappointing moments. I was glad it was controversial as it was but if it was better it could have shake a lot of people's view as "the big blue boyscout" type image while still being a good movie and a better set up for a DC Cinematic universe. I hope the sequel is better though.

[tmnt transformer]

Those movies were just terrible.


The last ironman movie was hard to follow and all and all poorly done. I don't get how anyone liked that too, and I find it difficult to take a villain seriously named after an orange. And the avengers was fine but the way it was built up, it was the biggest let down in movie history. That movie had SO much potential and it completely failed to meet any expectation. And right when the fight scene happens and the movie starts to get good; IT'S OVER! I thought it was just the middle of the movie. Terrible long and drawn out. But it was an ok movie, just huge let down. The marvel movies are usually always good just DC isn't putting the best product out lately. Including the green lantern.

Do you have to be such a wet blanket all the time...

[NinjaPug]

People need to just ignore him. He's been a troll since day one.

[TigerClaw]

I really hope the reason why Donatello is wearing those glasses is because he has vision problems, and not for aesthetic reasons. lol

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I really hope the reason why Donatello is wearing those glasses is because he has vision problems, and not for aesthetic reasons. lol

What is it they call it now? Geek Chic? We used to just call it dorky. LOL.

[poprob]

I really hope the reason why Donatello is wearing those glasses is because he has vision problems, and not for aesthetic reasons. lol

You'd think that Donnie would've been able to come up with a simple self-Lasik surgery, since the guy can make transmats, communicators, and all...

[TigerClaw]

The only reason Donatello has those glasses would be, That hes been having vision problems staring at all these monitors.

http://static.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/523c6cb8e4b0f7f048b9572b/1379691704825/Ninja%20Turtles%20lai78589444.jpg

[turtlefanforever]

...You're on your own...

Do you have to be such a wet blanket all the time...
I'm not on my own. Other people that hated those movies, myself included and I said the avengers was an ok movie just no where near where it could have been. Need to find out what the marvel people are doing cause they do every movie nearly perfect DC has been severely lacking. I'm positive the majority of the time it's just people's natural tendency to view the negative. And then there's those narcissistic people that think 'hey he has a different opinion then me attack him!" Which i come to find quite a few on here, I don't mind, if I can piss you off and get my point across all the better man. In general this is a nice community of people and I never met a mean TMNT fan until I came to this forum. Save your snide remarks for the people who actually came here to troll. This was a post here today or yesterday by the user 'Wonder Women' who specifically stated in her thread their intention was to troll. As "The Rock" would say "Know your roll and shut your mouth!"
People need to just ignore him. He's been a troll since day one.
Like he said.
well everyone has a different opinion :)

just like the people who like the new turtle designs :3

[Slime State Alumni]

LOL Raph's shades oh god.

[Chris]

Time passed between those moments. So in the context of the movie it wasn't really that jarring.

Oh I know in universe that time passed (Metropolis looked pretty rebuilt in that final scene), but I don't live in the DCU, I was sat in a cinema where about 5 seconds passed and to me the tonal shift was jarring and felt wrong.

Yeah. The ending rubbed people the wrong way.

That movie got so much right, while feeling so wrong. I feel like there was a big disconnect between the writing of the story, and its depiction on screen. Pretty much all the complaints people have about the movie are things like, "This doesn't look right," or "That doesn't feel right." Basically, a bunch of situations when one may think, "I doubt Nolan and Goyer saw it this way in their heads."

Then you have Snyder, multiple times, defending the movie by saying what he intended to get across. And that's the director's whole job - to show you what you're supposed to perceive. And if lots of people don't get what you wanted them to, that must be a failure on the director's part.

Yeah, I was willing to let a lot slide (notably Pa Kent being a jerk and his stupid death) as the movie was enjoyable but making Superman a killer was just a step too far, especially as it just happened, no proper build up, no proper aftermath. If Zod had spent the fight targeting people and Superman was getting beaten to a pulp trying to protect them whilst trying to stop Zod then his decision to kill Zod wouldn't have felt as forced. As it was Zod never won a fight in the whole film, whilst they felt evenly matched you never felt Zod was dominating Superman in their final battle. I get what they were going for but the build up didn't earn it and the aftermath didn't reflect it. They needed to address Zod's death at least a bit in the ending, the graveyard scene would have been perfect, but it's never mentioned.

I still enjoy the film, but I can't deny it's flaws. They've said Mos2/BvS will address the destruction and Zod's death, I'm hoping that it will retrospectively make the ending of MoS more palatable. I don't want them to dwell on it for the entire film (I'd like Superman a little more upbeat) but I don't want it to just be a passing reference, they have to make it worthwhile/count for something otherwise what was the point other than shock value?

[chrisdude]

Yeah, I was willing to let a lot slide (notably Pa Kent being a jerk and his stupid death) as the movie was enjoyable but making Superman a killer was just a step too far, especially as it just happened, no proper build up, no proper aftermath. If Zod had spent the fight targeting people and Superman was getting beaten to a pulp trying to protect them whilst trying to stop Zod then his decision to kill Zod wouldn't have felt as forced. As it was Zod never won a fight in the whole film, whilst they felt evenly matched you never felt Zod was dominating Superman in their final battle. I get what they were going for but the build up didn't earn it and the aftermath didn't reflect it. They needed to address Zod's death at least a bit in the ending, the graveyard scene would have been perfect, but it's never mentioned.

I still enjoy the film, but I can't deny it's flaws. They've said Mos2/BvS will address the destruction and Zod's death, I'm hoping that it will retrospectively make the ending of MoS more palatable. I don't want them to dwell on it for the entire film (I'd like Superman a little more upbeat) but I don't want it to just be a passing reference, they have to make it worthwhile/count for something otherwise what was the point other than shock value?Perfect example. And you can find interviews where Snyder explains that he wanted to create a scenario where Superman had no choice, and to give him a reason to have a no-kill rule. But it didn't look like he had no choice. And too many people had died for viewers to feel afraid for that family in danger. Snyder failed to get his point across.

I do hope that they work everything out. And Lex Luthor is the perfect person to hold Superman accountable for his actions and for the destruction. But the cast is getting pretty crowded, at this point. I wonder if anything will get proper attention.

[Chris]

Exactly, I completely get what he was going for. They wanted it more grounded, more "real", the Phantom Zone option was gone, there's no Justice League, no Fortress of Solitude, no way to contain Zod and Zod's just declared genocide on the human race. Looking at it realistically there was no other outcome, Zod died or the world did. But Zod told Superman that in the film, laying down the challenge for him to do what Superman does - the impossible, find another way. Superman essentially fails to be Superman. Snyder grounds him, brings him down to our level to make him feel more real/relatable. To give a reason for Superman not to kill again (which wouldn't be needed if they hadn't butchered Jonathon Kent's character - I get he was speaking out of fear when he said "maybe" but he's meant to be Clark's moral compass, the reason he grows up to be Superman, that didn't come across in MoS).

I'm not worried out the number of characters yet, LOTR, Avengers, plenty of films have shown ensemble casts can be done right (fingers crossed Snyder is up to the challenge). My biggest worry is that having set up this "real" world, I hope they can maintain the integrity whilst bringing in the rest of the DCU. If they don't and Batman can go hand to hand with Superman because "comic book movie" then making Superman kill Zod is wasted.

[MST3KFan]

BUSY.

That's the one word I constantly sum up the designs of the turtles for this movie.

Everything is just way too busy. There's just too much on them. Shredder even just has too much going on to me.

[Tazi]

Okay, so the designs are not that bad, but what disturbs me is all the ridicolous ******** they wear. Like how the hell a heavy armor helps ninjas at stealth and jumping between rooftops, if that wasn't over the top enough. And it's not like they don't have shells already.
And about Donnie and his glasses... Hell, why don't they just give him a tee like this:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yuzUA9xK71M/URkLXJIggrI/AAAAAAAAnT4/WGvJ3Fv13ao/s1600/04E35CNAV_large.jpg
And yo, homie Mikey is a real husla, yo.

If they wanted to go with unique clothes with each turtle, they should have been a lot clever.

[blindturtle02]

BUSY.

That's the one word I constantly sum up the designs of the turtles for this movie.

Everything is just way too busy. There's just too much on them. Shredder even just has too much going on to me.

Sort of sounds the same way via everyone's description. Yep, as busy as they used to sing about in that insane Richard Scarry show. Should have some great fight sceens, clothes or no. And yes, The Foot are probably the types of guys to hit a turtle with glasses, so maybe they'll break early on. Just hope they're nott the $500 variety or there abouts.

[TigerClaw]

I'm curious as to how they will sound, Will Donnie sound like a Nerd? Will Raph have a Brooklyn accent like in the previous movies and 2003 series? Will Michelangelo sound like a Gangsta?

[Tazi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03DrrNbxijA
Mike L. Angelo will sound like this, yo!

[turtlefanforever]

BUSY.

That's the one word I constantly sum up the designs of the turtles for this movie.

Everything is just way too busy. There's just too much on them. Shredder even just has too much going on to me.

Without all the unneeded fillers they would be much more bareable. I always wonder if they teamed up with the people from the amazing Spider-Man to make these. They look way too similar.

[NYShell]

I'm curious as to how they will sound, Will Donnie sound like a Nerd? Will Raph have a Brooklyn accent like in the previous movies and 2003 series? Will Michelangelo sound like a Gangsta?

I hope Raph has that NY accent. Idk if Alan Ritchson ever researched Raph's dialogue to help him with the role.

[raph15]

I really wish Josh Pais was back for Raphael.

[Cure]

It's a sad state of affairs when a hoodie tied around the waist and some necklaces are enough to warrant mockery for being a "gangsta" or "husla".

Incredibly judgmental and short sighted assholes in here. Pretty similar to the Richard Sherman thing going on now.

[TrickOrTreater]

I hope Raph has that NY accent. Idk if Alan Ritchson ever researched Raph's dialogue to help him with the role.

Something tells me he didn't.

It's a sad state of affairs when a hoodie tied around the waist and some necklaces are enough to warrant mockery for being a "gangsta" or "husla".

Incredibly judgmental and short sighted assholes in here. Pretty similar to the Richard Sherman thing going on now.

Gangsta and husla aren't warranted.

Stereotypical surfer douchebag sure is though.

[TigerClaw]

Maybe they will act more like the Nick series, Where they dont have accents and its just the actor's natural voices. Even Mickey sounds kind of normal, Though more of the geek type who loves comics and video games.

[Raphael232]

I really wish Josh Pais was back for Raphael.

I loved that voice for Raphael.

[turtlefanforever]

Maybe they will act more like the Nick series, Where they dont have accents and its just the actor's natural voices. Even Mickey sounds kind of normal, Though more of the geek type who loves comics and video games.

I don't like those voices and this movie is its own thing. They aren't voiced right in the show. From the set clip their voices sounded fine to me. I'll have to see the movie before I can accurately judge.

[raph15]

I don't like those voices and this movie is its own thing. They aren't voiced right in the show. From the set clip their voices sounded fine to me. I'll have to see the movie before I can accurately judge.

Do you have a link to that video?

[Bob]

Regarding the voices, even though it hasn't been confirmed, but I would assume the actors they've cast in the roles are also doing the voices. They're not just there for the body, all of them are also actors. I have no idea what any of them sounds like.

[TigerClaw]

Do you have a link to that video?
I believe its this one, You can clearly hear one of the actors, Probably Donatello going. "Leo! Where's Raph? Mickey!"

Obviously that's a natural sounding voice.

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[ironman29758]

I like how they use the regular voice when they're voicing the turtles instead of things like Mikey's stereotypical airhead surfer voice got old quick too me and didn't made sense even though I know it was part of his personality. Except for Raph (I like how Sean Astin portrayed him but Josh Pais was iconic Raph for me and defined the character). Except for maybe Alan Ritchson(unless he can portray a great Raph without the stereotypical Brooklyn accent), I do not mind if the turtles don't do accents.

But I agree with Cure, why does Mikey look automatically make people assume the "thug gangsta" type stereotype?

[blindturtle02]

So that's what most people are thinking? Hopefully he'll be more like Mikey. Ya'd think so. I'm also interested in Leo and Raph. What's this about Raph looking rather monstrous? Leo wearing the Samurai getup makes sense. They sound rather like some homages to the costume variants from the 90's.

[hitmonkey]

I like how they use the regular voice when they're voicing the turtles instead of things like Mikey's stereotypical airhead surfer voice got old quick too me and didn't made sense even though I know it was part of his personality. Except for Raph (I like how Sean Astin portrayed him but Josh Pais was iconic Raph for me and defined the character). Except for maybe Alan Ritchson(unless he can portray a great Raph without the stereotypical Brooklyn accent), I do not mind if the turtles don't do accents.

But I agree with Cure, why does Mikey look automatically make people assume the "thug gangsta" type stereotype?

I'm not sure. To me, Mikey looks more inspired by 1980's hip-hop/breakdancing culture. Which, while I hate the clothes, is just fine for Michelangelo.

[raph15]

I believe its this one, You can clearly hear one of the actors, Probably Donatello going. "Leo! Where's Raph? Mickey!"

Obviously that's a natural sounding voice.

KTmXTK7AEpU

Thank you very much!

[ToTheNines]

Incredibly judgmental and short sighted assholes in here. Pretty similar to the Richard Sherman thing going on now.

This board is like 99% nerdy white dudes. But yeah, I get what you're saying. I still hate that he's wearing pants though... that's gonna look so weird.

[turtlefanforever]

I'm not sure. To me, Mikey looks more inspired by 1980's hip-hop/breakdancing culture. Which, while I hate the clothes, is just fine for Michelangelo.

What time period this film takes place because it doesn't say from what I've seen but the turtles are extremely dated but all the new technology is still there. Also the clothes don't suit mikey

[turtlefanforever]

This games gonna suck

[chrisdude]

I don't see how Mikey clothes fit anything but the surfer stereotype. Shells and beads? Even the pants look like a wetsuit.

[turtlefanforever]

I don't see how Mikey clothes fit anything but the surfer stereotype. Shells and beads? Even the pants look like a wetsuit.

Not much expression there. Like I said completely stereotypical and dated.

[NYShell]

I really wish Josh Pais was back for Raphael.

He had the best voice for Raphael. That lower Eastside accent was top notch.

[Bob]

I do have to confess, I actually really liked each of their voices in TMNT (CGI movie). Especially Raphael and Leonardo.

[Tazi]

I don't see how Mikey clothes fit anything but the surfer stereotype. Shells and beads? Even the pants look like a wetsuit.

I mistaked the shells to chains. It's still kinda meh, tho.

[turtlefanforever]

I do have to confess, I actually really liked each of their voices in TMNT (CGI movie). Especially Raphael and Leonardo.

Those were good

[bridgegrn]

I believe its this one, You can clearly hear one of the actors, Probably Donatello going. "Leo! Where's Raph? Mickey!"

Obviously that's a natural sounding voice.

KTmXTK7AEpU

Sounds more like Mikey yelling -" Leo, where's Raph?" they do something to Mikey and Leo yells- "Mikey!"

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

I do have to confess, I actually really liked each of their voices in TMNT (CGI movie). Especially Raphael and Leonardo.

IMO TMNT had the best combination of voices of any Turtles incarnation.

[D Piddy 1982]

Ah. I've only just now managed to find a couple of pics of the action figures. Now I can see where the negativity is coming from.

I was basing my 'like' of the new designs on what I could see in the poster and the pic of Leo that had surfaced along with a pic of Raph (on set model I guess).

Now I've seen the action figures, along the previous pics of Raph and Mikey stood together (again set models)...it becomes more clear now...yeah the studios attempts to accessorize each character isn't great.

Without the 'accessories' I thought the designs looked great, I had no problem with tiny holes for nostrils or barely visible lip lines. Even some small accessories like glasses and shoulder plates, I thought "OK, I can live with that". But now I can see they're wearing boots/shorts/trousers etc...not great.

I'm still behind this movie but now I can plainly see where a lot of the disappointment is coming from and I can't defend the inclusion of these over the top accessories...

[Candy Kappa]

Don and Leo's nostrils are fine, but Raph and Mikey's noses are hella weird.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Don and Leo's nostrils are fine, but Raph and Mikey's noses are hella weird.

They also have the weirdest mouths/lips out of the batch

[Raphael232]

Raph does look to have AR's eyes IMHO

I agree, this is what they probably went with. Get the turtles to resemble actors in a slight way.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

I agree, this is what they probably went with. Get the turtles to resemble actors in a slight way.

It would make sense...they did it with Hulk in The Avengers

[Candy Kappa]

Well that's because Hulk and Bruce Banner is the same guy, they made the Hulk model look like the actor in the previous films as well, not just in the Avengers.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Well that's because Hulk and Bruce Banner is the same guy, they made the Hulk model look like the actor in the previous films as well, not just in the Avengers.

So how do we know the turtles aren't 4 guys mutated into turtles??? We don't know what kinda crazy stuff thry could be throwing at us. In the original cartoon Splinter was a guy who turned into a rat so why not in this movie? If that's the route they are going the it would make sense for the Turtles to have human looking faces

[Candy Kappa]

So how do we know the turtles aren't 4 guys mutated into turtles??? We don't know what kinda crazy stuff thry could be throwing at us. In the original cartoon Splinter was a guy who turned into a rat so why not in this movie? If that's the route they are going the it would make sense for the Turtles to have human looking faces

In the original cartoon the merging of Hamato Yoshi and his pet rat was done in a way to simplify and make the origin story more child friendly compared to the original origin.

The turtles have always been turtles, making them human turned mutants removes one of the more important aspects of their character. Even in IDW it's just their "souls" that was human, the turtles themselves was turtles before mutating.


Besides, that the turtles are looking like the actors portraying them lies In the Hollywood face-time, actors must have in a movie, hence why so many superhero movies the heroes love to take off their mask so often.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

In the original cartoon the merging of Hamato Yoshi and his pet rat was done in a way to simplify and make the origin story more child friendly compared to the original origin.

The turtles have always been turtles, making them human turned mutants removes one of the more important aspects of their character. Even in IDW it's just their "souls" that was human, the turtles themselves was turtles before mutating.


Besides, that the turtles are looking like the actors portraying them lies In the Hollywood face-time, actors must have in a movie, hence why so many superhero movies the heroes love to take off their mask so often.

Well you jokers do keep yelling out, "its Michael Bay!!!" so keep that in mind...

[Candy Kappa]

Well you jokers do keep yelling out, "its Michael Bay!!!" so keep that in mind...

Oh, do I now?
Good to know you have absolutely no knowledge of me at all, yet you think I'm a joker that yells wolf because Micael Bay is the Producer.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Oh, do I now?
Good to know you have absolutely no knowledge of me at all, yet you think I'm a joker that yells wolf because Micael Bay is the Producer.

I didn't single you out...jokers is plural. I've seen many people on here in my short time jump quick to condemn this movie based on the fact that Michael Bay's name is attached to this film.

[Candy Kappa]

And Spielberg's name is on Transformers, didn't stop it to be ****.

Bay's name is the least of this movie's problems.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

And Spielberg's name is on Transformers, didn't stop it to be ****.

Bay's name is the least of this movie's problems.

I liked Transformers...I didn't think it was ****

[Candy Kappa]

Good for you.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Good for you.

Yup, I don't understand all the Bay hate

[Candy Kappa]

Well, the blatant racism and potty humor in the transformers movies and total disrespect for historical accuracy in Pearl Harbor is a few of them.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Well, the blatant racism and potty humor in the transformers movies and total disrespect for historical accuracy in Pearl Harbor is a few of them.

People need to get over racism. If you let a word that your own people use everyday and being stereotyped hurt your feelings your thin skinned. People make fun of people every day, it's time to get over it. Potty humor, really?? Who cares? And historical in accuracy, he makes things "interesting" and has certain liberties or whatever.

[Candy Kappa]

My own people?

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

My own people?

Once again you are taking what I say as if I am singling you out. It's a general statement, calm down and get your undies out of a bunch

[Candy Kappa]

No I'm just genuinely curious about that statement, cause it seems you like you have just seen one ethnicity being played for laughs in the TF movies.

And historical accuracy not important? Because it's fine taking a huge dump on a event where over two thousand people got killed, just to make it more "interesting".

[Technogeek29]

People need to get over racism. If you let a word that your own people use everyday and being stereotyped hurt your feelings your thin skinned. People make fun of people every day, it's time to get over it. Potty humor, really?? Who cares? And historical in accuracy, he makes things "interesting" and has certain liberties or whatever.

OK lemme stop you right there. I don't mind he wanted to add elements to make it more interesting. I do mind when he gets facts blatantly wrong such as the Japs attacking the town when they only attacked the ships. Makes them seem like scum bags. In his defense he isn't the only director to do something like this but it still doesn't justify doing it.

[TrickOrTreater]

People need to get over racism. If you let a word that your own people use everyday and being stereotyped hurt your feelings your thin skinned..

I do mind when he gets facts blatantly wrong such as the Japs attacking the town when they only attacked the ships.

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[Anton Chigurh]

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OK lemme stop you right there. I don't mind he wanted to add elements to make it more interesting. I do mind when he gets facts blatantly wrong such as the Japs attacking the town when they only attacked the ships. Makes them seem like scum bags. In his defense he isn't the only director to do something like this but it still doesn't justify doing it.

Guys it's a movie about robots from space that's geared for 13 yo boys, get over it, geez... #waytosensitive

[Candy Kappa]

Guys it's a movie about robots from space that's geared for 13 yo boys, get over it, geez... #waytosensitive

Read again genius, that post was about Pearl Harbor, not Transformers.

[Anton Chigurh]

Read again genius, that post was about Pearl Harbor, not Transformers.

Quoted wrong post sorry on iPhone, I was referring to the racism crap y'all were posting genius. I'm part of many different forums and this is by far the one that's filled with the most hatedred and biggest friggin A-holes. It's a tmnt website who would have thought it. Bunch of tuff guys on here.

[Candy Kappa]

well, read your post before posting it.

There is racism and stereotyping in he Transformers movies, not just with the robots. And seeing that being continued in a children's movie as being funny is a issue.

[snooz]

what a sad group of people.

makes it tough to come here and scan these threads for actual news. Pages and pages of childish nonsense

[Candy Kappa]

Anyway, going away from racially stereotype characters and tasteless historical inaccuracies that are in completely different movies then the new TMNT movie and back to the poster.

I actually like the texture and colors on the turtles Carapace compared to the Maquettes, not all that fancy about the skin coloring, the sea turtle textures looks a wee bit weird. I do ope the final product have a similar color Carapace while the skin is more like the Maquettes, more like a semi aquatic turtle or a terrapin.

[turtlefanforever]

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OK lemme stop you right there. I don't mind he wanted to add elements to make it more interesting. I do mind when he gets facts blatantly wrong such as the Japs attacking the town when they only attacked the ships. Makes them seem like scum bags. In his defense he isn't the only director to do something like this but it still doesn't justify doing it.

And I'm agreeing with you here, but japs is sort of a racial slur.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

what a sad group of people.

makes it tough to come here and scan these threads for actual news. Pages and pages of childish nonsense

yup...people want to cry and complain and go on and on about how Bay is such a horrible director. If he's so bad why do you keep going to see his movies?

[snake]

yup...people want to cry and complain and go on and on about how Bay is such a horrible director. If he's so bad why do you keep going to see his movies?

Bay isn't the director.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Bay isn't the director.

I know that, but it seems like most of the people think that Bay is directing this movie and that if this movie flops it will be his fault.

[snake]

I know that, but it seems like most of the people think that Bay is directing this movie and that if this movie flops it will be his fault.

It's Liebesmans fault, and bays.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

It's Liebesmans fault, and bays.

yup, too bad most people don't see that. I think the movie will be good. I hope it will be anyway.

[turtlefanforever]

yup, too bad most people don't see that. I think the movie will be good. I hope it will be anyway.

The majority of people see and know that!! It's just easy to hate bay, he is a bigger part of this movie than he leads on. 99% of people know he's not directing, nobody cares about Jon so they just don't mention him. There's no bias here we all hate them equally :tgrin:

[snake]

yup, too bad most people don't see that. I think the movie will be good. I hope it will be anyway.

My expectations are extremely low, I hope I'm wrong.

[BubblyShell22]

Not liking the designs. Lips look atrocious and I hate their clothes. Why the hell do they need clothes like that? Ugh.

[Zany Orange Dude]

Not liking the designs. Lips look atrocious and I hate their clothes. Why the hell do they need clothes like that? Ugh.

I know right! My eyes are constantly drawn to those lips!

[electric_sheep]

Not liking the designs. Lips look atrocious and I hate their clothes. Why the hell do they need clothes like that? Ugh.
They are obviously cold blooded, so draw your own conclusions, I'll give you a hint...
http://cdn2.thatsnerdalicious.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/ninja-turtle-dicks.jpg

[Powder]

I've noticed you constantly post about dicks in relation to the TMNT. Might wanna seek help. Or switch over to another kind of fan-site. :tlol:

[GrapeSoda]

well, read your post before posting it.

There is racism and stereotyping in he Transformers movies, not just with the robots. And seeing that being continued in a children's movie as being funny is a issue.

be careful not to feed the trolls. These forums have seen a flood of new users in the past few weeks, and most of them are on the attack. they love the new film and you don't, so you're a jackhole. They hate the new designs and you like them, so you're a moron. it was like this on the old Transformers boards and the same again on the Joe forums. The good thing is, most of them will be gone by this time next year.

[fridaynightdestination]

Excuse me while I go vomit :teek:

[Technogeek29]

And I'm agreeing with you here, but japs is sort of a racial slur.

Yeah a shot in the foot on my part.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

I swear too much negativity on here. Almost regret joining. Hell I thought there would be more than a handful of people looking forward to this movie except it's nothing but a bunch of whining and bitching fanboys and I assume there are fangirls here. There are more people excited over at superherohype than here..pitiful! The designs are not that bad honestly...geez y'all cry worse than babies! "They're BABIES!!!":shredder:

[Powder]

I swear too much negativity on here. Almost regret joining. Hell I thought there would be more than a handful of people looking forward to this movie except it's nothing but a bunch of whining and bitching fanboys and I assume there are fangirls here. The designs are not that bad honestly...geez y'all cry worse than babies! "They're BABIES!!!":shredder:

Leave then.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=46098

This thread proves we're divided to a tie, pretty much.

So just go ahead and just comment on the negativity rather than the positivity.

[TrickOrTreater]

I swear too much negativity on here. Almost regret joining. Hell I thought there would be more than a handful of people looking forward to this movie except it's nothing but a bunch of whining and bitching fanboys and I assume there are fangirls here. There are more people excited over at superherohupe than here..pitiful! The designs are not that bad honestly...geez y'all cry worse than babies! "They're BABIES!!!":shredder:

Don't let the door hit you on the way out then.

[Jester]

Not sure what's more annoying people giving real reasons for their distaste for the new Turtle designs or all the people without a hint of irony whining about all the whining.

[samxsteal]

So you people are so adamant in your dislike you'll shun any new fans. He was just saying he thought people would be more understanding not of the movie necessarily but of those who enjoy the new look. I have been a member for a very long time mostly just watching as with many message boards and I find it appalling that so many members have to scream at the top of their lungs all their hate. I may not have a high post count but I have been a fan of the turtles for a very long time pretty close to my whole life and I have learn it is much better to be accepting and understanding then be cynical and that's what all the vocal negative people are cynical. And you constantly drive fans away. So you people really want to be those kinds of fans pushing others who love the same thing you do with there own opinions away with out any regard. That's not fair to the Tmnt franchise your seriously saying you prefer failure over new fans? ? ? And regardless of how good the movie is that's what it will no that what it did to the transformers franchise, regardless of what you thought of the movies, they brought new fans and opened mind that world just as this movie will do.

[TigerClaw]

I just ignore all the negativity that's been going on behind both TMNT and Transformers in general. As someone who grew up with those two franchises, I don't really have much nostalgia. As you get older, You start to realize the things you thought were cool when you were a kid? No longer is for this day and age. Kids today won't like the stuff that came before cause its nothing like how things are today. So these franchises had to get a modern update to make them relevant for today's society of new fans.

[Dākunaito]

As you get older, You start to realize the things you thought were cool when you were a kid? No longer is for this day and age. Kids today won't like the stuff that came before cause its nothing like how things are today. So these franchises had to get a modern update to make them relevant for today's society of new fans.

I agree with this those of us who grew up with the suits from the original movie thought it was awesome because it was fresh and new and it was real to us, as advanced as forms of entertainment have become now it no longer works. That's not to say I don't love the original movie with the Henson suits though.

[TigerClaw]

I agree with this those of us who grew up with the suits from the original movie thought it was awesome because it was fresh and new and it was real to us, as advanced as forms of entertainment have become now it no longer works. That's not to say I don't love the original movie with the Henson suits though.
Yeah, The originals were great for its time, They just can't hold up with all the modern tech the entertainment industry has today.

[1984TMNT]

Yeah, The originals were great for its time, They just can't hold up with all the modern tech the entertainment industry has today.

I strongly disagree. I think they still hold up and look "real" to me as I watch. Do I know they are suits - well, yeah. But when I watch CG, I know it's CG too - just 2 different styles of "puppets". Both have pros and cons.

This ONLY applies to the 1st movie though - as the quality of the suits began to deteriorate starting with SOTO.....mainly in the faces, as they began to over emphasize facial expressions / movements. Donnie's face from the '90 movie to SOTO is a prime example. The 3rd movie was just horrendous for multiple reasons, starting with the Henson company not handling the suits. Therefore, I fully agree that movies 2 & 3 suits don't hold up very well today.

[electric_sheep]

how do you post a video?

[electric_sheep]

It's okay i am taking it back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWdVwt2deY4

[Jester]

how do you post a video?
For the one you linked, use the youtube tags and place the 11 characters after the "V=" inside them
Like so:
dWdVwt2deY4

Also...wha?

[slingtheory]

I swear too much negativity on here. Almost regret joining. Hell I thought there would be more than a handful of people looking forward to this movie except it's nothing but a bunch of whining and bitching fanboys and I assume there are fangirls here. There are more people excited over at superherohupe than here..pitiful! The designs are not that bad honestly...geez y'all cry worse than babies! "They're BABIES!!!":shredder:
but look at you reaction though. you're upset about people being upset because they don't like what they see. how does that make sense. these people are selling us a product. their job is to impress us. if you feel like they have done that then great but you can't be mad when others don't feel the same way. not being able to deal with others opinion make you look like a baby no matter what side you're on.

I just ignore all the negativity that's been going on behind both TMNT and Transformers in general. As someone who grew up with those two franchises, I don't really have much nostalgia. As you get older, You start to realize the things you thought were cool when you were a kid? No longer is for this day and age. Kids today won't like the stuff that came before cause its nothing like how things are today. So these franchises had to get a modern update to make them relevant for today's society of new fans.

yeah I don't think so. why does a franchise that's popular right now. one that's selling out merchandise, has a popular tv series running and comic book in print need a reinvention. if it ain't broke don't fix it. this a case of "look how different ours is" plain and simple

[TigerClaw]

but look at you reaction though. you're upset about people being upset because they don't like what they see. how does that make sense. these people are selling us a product. their job is to impress us. if you feel like they have done that then great but you can't be mad when others don't feel the same way. not being able to deal with others opinion make you look like a baby no matter what side you're on.



yeah I don't think so. why does a franchise that's popular right now. one that's selling out merchandise, has a popular tv series running and comic book in print need a reinvention. if it ain't broke don't fix it. this a case of "look how different ours is" plain and simple
For example, boxy and bulky Transformers of the 80s won't work at this day and age, It just looks too cheesy for today's standards.

[slingtheory]

For example, boxy and bulky Transformers of the 80s won't work at this day and age, It just looks too cheesy for today's standards.
That might be true. I remember reading somewhere that bay and co tried it and it didn't look right. But when it comes to the turtles we've seen that look work in live action already its continuing to work right now everywhere else. The new generation of turtles fans are obviously ok with the traditional look and don't consider it cheesy.

[samxsteal]

but look at you reaction though. you're upset about people being upset because they don't like what they see. how does that make sense. these people are selling us a product. their job is to impress us. if you feel like they have done that then great but you can't be mad when others don't feel the same way. not being able to deal with others opinion make you look like a baby no matter what side you're on.

They thing that get me is were are essentially complaining about something we're not supposed to see yet that's whats frustrating. looking at it in a base way none of the stuff he have seen is completely finished product and i don't care what anyone says you can not formulate a proper opinion with out the whole thing. you can judge only base on what you have seen out of context and while some maybe be right once context is given only once you have the context does it really confirm it was true.



yeah I don't think so. why does a franchise that's popular right now. one that's selling out merchandise, has a popular tv series running and comic book in print need a reinvention. if it ain't broke don't fix it. this a case of "look how different ours is" plain and simple It really not that plain and simple there adding to there character just like the OT turtle added different mask just like the 2k show added to there character actions, Just like Nick added slight visual modifiers to each characters, this is the same and while for some it might seem over doing it other as my self feel this is just another way to flesh out each character in appearance based on what real people do in real life

[plastroncafe]

I'm trying to figure out where on the "Show, Don't Tell" spectrum the clothing choices of the new Turtles sit.

At its most literal it's showing us the various personalities, but...I kind of get the feeling that even that showing is so blatant it counts as a tell.

Thoughts?

[Jester]

You know, I was kinda wondering the same thing actually. I mean is it possible to actually "visually tell" because these designs do seem pretty close.

[Candy Kappa]

For example, boxy and bulky Transformers of the 80s won't work at this day and age, It just looks too cheesy for today's standards.

I think the blocky designs in Fall for Cybertron is miles above the Bayformers designs.

It is meant to be cheesy, in a fantastical way. Something the live-action movies severely lacks.

[turtlefanforever]

Yeah, The originals were great for its time, They just can't hold up with all the modern tech the entertainment industry has today.

I can almost guarantee if they made a new movie with those suits everyone on here would go see it. The movies are timeless people still watch them
Now. I have the 25th anniversary pack with all the movies, and almost just bought them again on Blu ray just cause.

[TigerClaw]

I can almost guarantee if they made a new movie with those suits everyone on here would go see it. The movies are timeless people still watch them
Now. I have the 25th anniversary pack with all the movies, and almost just bought them again on Blu ray just cause.
I have all 3 movies as well as the CGI one on Blu-Ray, I bought them cause I only had the first 3 on VHS and never owned them on DVD. So getting the Blu-Ray versions were a must due to them being in HD. Even though there's a lot of film grain. I didnt buy the 25th anniversary ones since they are the same as the individual versions.

[Technogeek29]

Mainly this just screams unnecessary realism to me. Couldn't we go the Marvel route and have just a grounded realism but still keep the absurdity of a comic book?:ohwell:

Edit: On the note of the new Technodrome members if your really fans of the series, why are you just huddled up in the one part of the board? Most new members come here sure but migrate to the sections that made them a fan.

[samxsteal]

I can almost guarantee if they made a new movie with those suits everyone on here would go see it. The movies are timeless people still watch them
Now. I have the 25th anniversary pack with all the movies, and almost just bought them again on Blu ray just cause.

So blindly liking something because its based on the turtles like you have said is stupid but you think if a movie was created with the original suits everyone would blindly watch it just on that fact alone is completely sane your logic is so messed up

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I think the blocky designs in Fall for Cybertron is miles above the Bayformers designs.

It is meant to be cheesy, in a fantastical way. Something the live-action movies severely lacks.

The Cybertron games are really freakin' awesome and pretty much what I would have liked to see on film. They even seemed to update them to be a bit more complex while still maintaining the original design.I can almost guarantee if they made a new movie with those suits everyone on here would go see it. The movies are timeless people still watch them
Now. I have the 25th anniversary pack with all the movies, and almost just bought them again on Blu ray just cause.

Well, probably not if they used THOSE suits. I can't help but sadly speculate they're in poor condition now. :D

I was totally on board with the CG idea, though, especially when Eastman first mentioned it after the CG film released by specifically noting the CG turtles being like Gollum.

I'm just...not sure about the rendition that's being used. 20 years of the turtles being minimalist in their pads and belts for weapons, even without those frequently and not feeling awkward about it at all, it's just WEIRD to see them wearing pants. The foot wraps, even the semi-boots, the armguards, the shoulder armor, all of that I can kind of dig because it just feels like a small extension of the ninja gear, but Mikey wearing pants is just weird to me. Leo wearing the stick-armor chestpiece when he's got a shell seems weird to me (and seems like it would be noisy).

Chains, necklaces, sunglasses, even clothing on clothing all = noise and sound when moving. The lack of clothes I'd think would make them better to move silently.

I'm not "rawr rage hate" on the new designs. I actually dig that Leo statue a lot. I just get more of a sci-fi off-Earth vibe from the clothes based on experience.

And Mikey's lips still grate me more than the others. Dunno why, he just seems to have such big lips! But CG is really hard to judge from still images, so I'm waiting for the trailer.

[TigerClaw]

The problem with doing another movie using those rubber suits is, The actors in them will be limited to what they can do physically, It be much harder to perform some really spectacular stunts with those suits on and the limited vision.

The Motion Capture suits do allow the actors and stunt doubles freedom of movement, So they can perform some pretty wild and spectacular fight scenes. I would love to see the Turtles do things like jumping from walls, Back flips, Doing Cartwheels, All that stuff you see in Martial Arts movies.

[Candy Kappa]

The old suits is also degraded by time as the material they were made of was not meant to last.

Now, creature suits have come a long way since the early 90's, just look at the creatures in Hellboy 2, especially Mr. wink.

[slingtheory]

They thing that get me is were are essentially complaining about something we're not supposed to see yet that's whats frustrating. looking at it in a base way none of the stuff he have seen is completely finished product and i don't care what anyone says you can not formulate a proper opinion with out the whole thing. you can judge only base on what you have seen out of context and while some maybe be right once context is given only once you have the context does it really confirm it was true.
even if it isn't finished I feel like I've seen enough to tell what the basic concept is and decide if I like it or not. It's like watching somebody cook. if the ingredients don't look appetizing that's enough for me to decide I won't like the meal too much. doesn't mean it won't actually be good just that it will be harder to convince me it is. but that's assuming that what we are seeing isn't the finished product. which brings up the bigger question of why is this movie 6 months away from release and all we've seen from it is coming from leaks. that could be considered a red flag on its own. it implies either there is still at work doing damage control or they're unconfident in the final product. bad sign either way

It really not that plain and simple there adding to there character just like the OT turtle added different mask just like the 2k show added to there character actions, Just like Nick added slight visual modifiers to each characters, this is the same and while for some it might seem over doing it other as my self feel this is just another way to flesh out each character in appearance based on what real people do in real life I guess we're at an impasse. I don't see how this adds anything. dressed up or naked the turtles are the turtles plain and simple. wearing scavenged junk doesn't bring anything new to table its just advertising the personality in the broadest way possible. all the other changes you mentioned happened for clear reasons (though im not sure what you meant about the 2k3 show) this just looks like somebody went out of their way to be creative and your mileage may vary I guess.

[samxsteal]

even if it isn't finished I feel like I've seen enough to tell what the basic concept is and decide if I like it or not. It's like watching somebody cook. if the ingredients don't look appetizing that's enough for me to decide I won't like the meal too much. doesn't mean it won't actually be good just that it will be harder to convince me it is. but that's assuming that what we are seeing isn't the finished product. which brings up the bigger question of why is this movie 6 months away from release and all we've seen from it is coming from leaks. that could be considered a red flag on its own. it implies either there is still at work doing damage control or they're unconfident in the final product. bad sign either way
Glade you put it this way seeming as i am a professional Chef, this is s total crock concept. If being in the culinary industry has taught me one thing its that you cant say you dislike something unless you have tried it all together anything can be cooked in one way or another to the liking of an one, if you cook it right.

Saying you hate chicken because you hate how its been prepared by others doesn't mean there isn't a way to prepare it that suits your tastes but you cant know that until you have had it in its full glory. some food look terrible but taste great some look great but taste terrible some ingredients don't taste well together or mixed but if you add that one thing you can turn it into something great. Who Is to say that they haven't found the secret thing that brings it all together is all you have seen or heard it but a tiny fraction of the whole.

I guess we're at an impasse. I don't see how this adds anything. dressed up or naked the turtles are the turtles plain and simple. wearing scavenged junk doesn't bring anything new to table its just advertising the personality in the broadest way possible. all the other changes you mentioned happened for clear reasons (though im not sure what you meant about the 2k3 show) this just looks like somebody went out of their way to be creative and your mileage may vary I guess. Im saying this fleshes out their Humanity and the need to feel as apart of society while being there own individuals that what this add IMO. Yes one a base level they're just wearing things but these thing mean something to them Leo Like samurai ninja and bushido so he wears what he feels fit that look in his eyes with what he has. don raph mikey all the same fore their characters.
As for the 2k show im talk about how there personality are more fleshed out compared to the Ot turtles raph characteristically more rude and hot headed then then Ot and the Og comics. Mikey is funnier then the rest more comedic free spirited, Leo was much more Bushido then past versions, don was about the only one to kind of stay the same. plus the changing of the skin tone which was only done with the figures up to that point to further the differentiate there characters

[D Piddy 1982]

This may be of interest to some of you, but I posted a couple of these 2014 movies images on my Twitter feed, the movie poster and a pic of Leo. Anyway I got an e-mail from Twitter this morning basically saying that they had removed the tweets and images at the request of Paramount. Under the e-mail message from Twitter was Paramount’s message to Twitter.

I was going to post the Paramount message but there's a disclaimer saying not to share it...

"any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED"

Makes me surprised they (Paramount) are not sniffing around here...