Donald Trump Hush money trial

[ChosenOne]

Well, there went the last hope for CNN:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-coverage-trump-indictment-after-chris-licht-firing-shows-echoes-more-partisan-jeff-zucker-era

It's "too dangerous" to cover all of the news.

Yep, s'awfully dangerous to show Trump talking live about peace in Ukraine and a good economy and energy independence in America, it might lead the public to realize he stands for that sort of thing. Preeettyyy dangerous.

Since when is CNN in the news business, anyway...?

[Sumac]

Well, there went the last hope for CNN:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-coverage-trump-indictment-after-chris-licht-firing-shows-echoes-more-partisan-jeff-zucker-era

It's "too dangerous" to cover all of the news.
Bunch of retards.
They are "news agency" - it is their job to cover all the news, not hiding their head in the sand.

But we all know why they are doing this, so **** them.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Well, there went the last hope for CNN:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-coverage-trump-indictment-after-chris-licht-firing-shows-echoes-more-partisan-jeff-zucker-era

It's "too dangerous" to cover all of the news.

They’re just squirming because Joe Biden wouldn’t get as much get enthusiasm if he walked into a restaurant. Well, maybe he would if he walked into a retirement center, where the residents are so behind the times they’d mistake him for Kirk Douglas

[Mayhem]

Many of the forums I'm on are as popular, if not more so, than they were 20 years ago. I think there's a growing wave of people who are gradually disliking and coming off FB, Twitter, Discord et al and wanting something a bit more controlled and admin friendly. Or maybe it depends what you are into.

I've spent six hours driving to and from a funeral today, so not in the best of moods.

Now and again one of you aging relics of the extreme-left comes here and their latest expression of life-anger is how the "rational, intelligent people left" this place. And yet, here are the forums, moving on with new posts routinely both in TMNT and other topics just fine without you or those allegedly "rational" leftist psychos you are talking about.

Except I'm not on the left, I'm centre right if anything, used to be more right. Let me repeat this. Being on the left means being towards the communism/socialism side of the political spectrum. Central generally is liberal, ish. Right wing is conservatism heading to fascism as we get far right wing.

The Republican party is extremely right wing currently, almost towards fascism. The Democratic party, while to the left of the Republicans, is still very much a way right of centre party. America HAS NO LEFT WING representatives. Note that I don't say that about either party's supporters per se, just the people who make up the representatives of the party, and the policies proposed and enacted by each party when in power.

Americans time and time again confuse anything left of where the Republican party sits politically as being "left wing" and "liberal" when its patently not the case.

[Cowabung-Gal]

The Democratic party, while to the left of the Republicans, is still very much a way right of centre party

https://media.tenor.com/3x63SNMKPogAAAAd/oh-wait-youre-serious.gif

There’s a reason millions of former Democrats here in America are changing to the Independent Party and fleeing Democrat-run cities in droves

[IMJ]

https://media.tenor.com/3x63SNMKPogAAAAd/oh-wait-youre-serious.gif

There’s a reason millions of former Democrats here in America are changing to the Independent Party and fleeing Democrat-run cities in droves

:lol: Every. Single. Democrat-run large city in America is in a state of 3rd world problems run wild. Drugs. Shootings. Massive tent cities. Literal needles and trash everywhere. Guys like Mayhem defending a lost political lifestyle while the cities that hold his warped values literally let people into stores to loot, steal and eat the food and walk out 99% without repurcussion. :lol:

And people like Mayhem still go on about their peasant bull$#!( anyway. The dregs of society going on about their opinions literally turning their societies into the societal dregs.

And this isn't opinion. It's 100% supported fact. :lol: Pathetic.

Meanwhile now he's prattling on about everyone else's confusion of the political spectrum... :lol: Holy $#!( :lol: The only thing most of these people have learned how to do in your facade of "political expertise" is to throw out a series of unfounded opinions, disregard the facts and then respond in the best Hollowman Points or strawman arguments that they can muster. That's it. An entire cluster of phony, disingenuous fools. It's pathetic. P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C. Cluster of humanities peasant level evil.

[ChosenOne]

Right wing is conservatism heading to fascism as we get far right wing.

(...)

America HAS NO LEFT WING representatives.

Dumb and dumber by the post. :roll:

Fascism and Nazism were left-wing ideologies, ya mook! One is known for its Communist imagery and the other was literally the National Socialist Worker's party...Yeesh.

[Mayhem]

And the Republican party used to be fairly socialist by comparison, at least during the Civil War, to the Democrats. And at some point they kind of swapped around their positions. America isn't the world. Just because YOU have one interpretation of political spectrum that you steadfastly refuse to budge on doesn't mean every other country is the same. And weirdly enough, none of them do, at least the non communist ones.

In the same way you have no guaranteed maternity leave by law, and refuse to change from imperial measurements... even though practically every other country in the world has.

[Andrew NDB]

In the same way you have no guaranteed maternity leave by law

No guaranteed paid maternity leave. That's an important distinction you're omitting. Most states do, though, and in mine even me as the father get to take a bunch of paid months off of work for paternity leave under the PFML right after the mother gets done taking hers. Mine starts in September.

[ChosenOne]

America isn't the world. Just because YOU have one interpretation of political spectrum that you steadfastly refuse to budge on doesn't mean every other country is the same. And weirdly enough, none of them do, at least the non communist ones.

Uh... You do know I'm not American, yeah...? Or did you just assume? "America isn't the world"... Oops, so much for your know-it-all-itis!

I've lived my whole life in a country with openly far-left socialist parties, and I'll tell you right now they're put to shame most days by Democrat rhetoric. The ideology that is taking hold of America is very dangerous and made even more so by the country's might in itself. Such power must never fall in the hands of socialism.

I can tell you have no idea what you’re talking about. Muh party switch...! Just a myth, chief.

[Mayhem]

No guaranteed paid maternity leave. That's an important distinction you're omitting. Most states do, though, and in mine even me as the father get to take a bunch of paid months off of work for paternity leave under the PFML right after the mother gets done taking hers. Mine starts in September.
True, I missed the word "paid" out. It's still an horrendous omission though being left to the discretion of individual employers to offer it. Between that and only being guaranteed two weeks vacation time, no wonder so many American workers get burned out. But but more work, more productive, well sorry, studies show that isn't the case, most likely the opposite, and the US is generally seen as the most overworked nation in the world.

I'm glad to hear that you're able to take some quality paternity leave too, we get two weeks paid by default here in the UK (which I took), and likewise I could have shared some of the full paid time off from the better half, but chose not to, we discussed it and she had all the allocation. In fact there's NO maximum maternity leave limit here, you just receive less money after six months instead of full pay. I still had some money left from my previous redundancy so I suplemented our income with some of that to give her more time with our daughter. Who then went straight into nursery when she returned to work heh.

Uh... You do know I'm not American, yeah...? Or did you just assume? "America isn't the world"... Oops, so much for your know-it-all-itis!
Should have quoted IMJ there as that's who I was mostly referring to.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

This thread is why I don't get involved in politics.

Just a bunch of people who think they know best insulting others with different political views.

[IMJ]

This thread is why I don't get involved in politics.

Just a bunch of people who think they know best insulting others with different political views.

You have to strongly consider your audience. If you discuss politics in a group of people who have the same educational foundation in politics then there is a baseline that everyone understands.

The frustration here isn't varying opinions. It's the opinions built from foundations of understanding that are inherently wrong or uninformed that leads to the issues.

Basically if you talk politics with educated people you get different disagreement. You talk politics with the peasant thinker and you get a lot of projection, virtue-signaling and nonsense.

[Andrew NDB]

True, I missed the word "paid" out. It's still an horrendous omission though being left to the discretion of individual employers to offer it.

Well no no, it should never fall to the individual employers. Because could you imagine? Let's say you baaaarely cobble together enough money after 20 years to open up a coffee shop. You hire a couple of ladies to run it, then after a few months one of them is out on maternity leave... that you then have to pay her for? To stay home for months, while you have to pay another person to take her place and keep the coffee shop alive? How could that possibly be sustainable?

But in this state, like 3 years ago they introduced what basically amounts to a $3 tax every paycheck for everybody, everywhere here and we're all paying into like a pool to proliferate the PFML here in advance of it rolling out. Which I have questions about but am more or less OK with it.

[TurtleManiac]

When all they know and are is hate, all they'll talk about is hate.

Well the thing is, it’s ok when THEY do it, in the name of “social justice”, the “greater good”, being on the “right side of history”.

https://i.imgur.com/21dny2W.jpg?2

And the Republican party used to be fairly socialist by comparison, at least during the Civil War, to the Democrats. And at some point they kind of swapped around their positions. America isn't the world. Just because YOU have one interpretation of political spectrum that you steadfastly refuse to budge on doesn't mean every other country is the same. And weirdly enough, none of them do, at least the non communist ones.

In the same way you have no guaranteed maternity leave by law, and refuse to change from imperial measurements... even though practically every other country in the world has.

The “party switch” theory :lol: Yup heard that one before, how they claim it was today’s Republicans who founded the KKK and the Democrats freed the slaves. By that logic, years from now they will be saying it was the right who were pushing masks, forced vaccines and covid fear mongering, and how the left was against all that.

[Andrew NDB]

Unfortunately Schwarzenegger is right here:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/06/15/arnold-schwarzenegger-donald-trump-indictment-presidential-election-sot-wtcw-vpx.cnn

[TurtleManiac]

Unfortunately Schwarzenegger is right here:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/06/15/arnold-schwarzenegger-donald-trump-indictment-presidential-election-sot-wtcw-vpx.cnn

Only because our spineless Republicans in congress have allowed the Democrats to turn the U.S. into a banana republic. The uniparty it’s a big club of corrupt commies from both sides, and Trump ain’t in it. Side note: Schwarzenegger’s father was an actual nazi.

[Sumac]

Trump ain't part of corrupted cartel of millionaires?
LOL, good joke.

He is not part of DemoRep establishment, but is he a corrupted businessman with an enormous influence?
No ****, Sherlock, he is!!

Side note: Schwarzenegger’s father was an actual nazi.
And what it has to do with anything?
I don't believe into inter-generational responsibility and such arguments are effectively dumb and useless.

[TurtleManiac]

Trump ain't part of corrupted cartel of millionaires?
LOL, good joke.

He is not part of DemoRep establishment, but is he a corrupted businessman with an enormous influence?
No ****, Sherlock, he is!!

Yeah, I was referring to the DC Establishment swamp. Yeah he’s a billionaire, so what? There’s good ones and bad ones. Bill Gates is also a billionaire.

And what it has to do with anything?
I don't believe into inter-generational responsibility and such arguments are effectively dumb and useless.

Like father, like son. Another famous nazi sympathizer (AND billionaire) George Soros, has his son following in his footsteps.

Here’s Arnold Schwarzenegger telling Americans “screw your freedoms” for not wanting to take the forced covid vaccines:

https://twitter.com/vision4theblind/status/1638534002188460033?s=46&t=TLvlV09Wi_WCmajzODFHMQ

I did not see that coming. These are the kind of people being given a huge platform to promote socialism. Nevertrumpers.

[Mayhem]

The “party switch” theory :lol: Yup heard that one before, how they claim it was today’s Republicans who founded the KKK and the Democrats freed the slaves. By that logic, years from now they will be saying it was the right who were pushing masks, forced vaccines and covid fear mongering, and how the left was against all that.
No, I’m talking about political spectrum wise, during the Civil War, the Republican Party of Lincoln sat roughly where the Democrats do today, and the Democratic Party sat roughly where the Republicans are today. So yes, the Republicans back then comparatively were more “liberal” than the Democrats.

But in the same way that blue used to be for girls and pink used to be for boys during that time, at some point hence the parties flipped their political ideologies and place on the political spectrum. Even then Lincoln wasn’t convinced freeing the slaves was the best idea but went along with a vocal majority in his party.

[Sumac]

Yeah, I was referring to the DC Establishment swamp. Yeah he’s a billionaire, so what? There’s good ones and bad ones. Bill Gates is also a billionaire.
Trump is good?
Damn, mate, you are delusional.

Like father, like son. Another famous nazi sympathizer (AND billionaire) George Soros, has his son following in his footsteps.
Those things are nowhere near comparable.
Please, jump into a hole (in the Minecraft).

[ChosenOne]

Trump is good?
Damn, mate, you are delusional.

He kept the monsters in check for four years. That's good enough in my book.

[Mayhem]

Why not surprised here… he’s broke…


https://i.imgur.com/fXba3od.jpg

[ChosenOne]

Yes, I'm sure that's what that means and that said nameless publication is entirely trustworthy, which is why it's such a widely circulated anecdote in the hate comnunity. Say... Could I interest you in a nice turn-of-the-century bridge?

:roll::roll::roll::roll:

[Andrew NDB]

He kept the monsters in check for four years. That's good enough in my book.

That's good enough for me, too. People often say, "what meaningful legislation did he pass? Name anything!" Why should him passing new laws be the benchmark of his success? The stuff he stopped dead in its tracks is more what I'm interested in.

[ChosenOne]

That's good enough for me, too. People often say, "what meaningful legislation did he pass? Name anything!" Why should him passing new laws be the benchmark of his success? The stuff he stopped dead in its tracks is more what I'm interested in.

And especially now, when everyone can see what the world looks like without Trump in the White House.

[Sumac]

I agree that he had kept SJWs at bay and his mere presence incised them enough so they went completely insane and compromised themselves, but this alone doesn't make Trump a "good guy".

He is a corrupted narccisistic politician, whose goals so far had aligned with goals of adequate people.

[Mayhem]

He is a corrupted narccisistic politician
You and I at least agree on this point.

[ChosenOne]

Who said anything about the SJWs? They're annoying, sure, but not a real threat. I meant the dangerous crazies like Putin and Xi and Kim. For all of the leftard conspiracy theories, Putin's so f*cking afraid of Trump that he even put his precious invasion on hold for four years... China was being humbled, Kim was almost talked into a historic peace treaty, and then Biden steals the election and suddenly we're discussing nuclear war, spy balloons fly leisurely over the US, and there’s a new missile test in the Korean peninsula every week.

F*ck this state of affairs and f*ck whoever's fine with it because they can't handle a normal cisgender man as their President. We could all die in a flash because of your/their stupidity. But hey, at least no more mean Tweets to hurt your fee-fees, amirite?

[Cowabung-Gal]

There’s a reason millions of former Democrats here in America are changing to the Independent Party and fleeing Democrat-run cities in droves

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[TurtleManiac]

Donald Trump Files Defamation Lawsuit Against E. Jean Carroll Over Bogus Rape Claim

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/donald-trump-files-defamation-lawsuit-against-e-jean/

[TheCanadiandrome]

Why not surprised here… he’s broke…


https://i.imgur.com/fXba3od.jpg

He either tasted the food there or has to poo, judging but the stupid look on his face. He's a man of many facial expressions and hand gestures, none of which ever exuded intelligence. :lol: :lol:

Say what ya will about Trudeau, but at least he's not a senile old fool like Trump and Biden. 2024 is gonna be a fun one to watch, cause whoever gets in is gonna have one hell of a mess to clean up :o :lol: :D

[TurtleManiac]

He either tasted the food there or has to poo, judging but the stupid look on his face. He's a man of many facial expressions and hand gestures, none of which ever exuded intelligence. :lol: :lol:

Say what ya will about Trudeau, but at least he's not a senile old fool like Trump and Biden. 2024 is gonna be a fun one to watch, cause whoever gets in is gonna have one hell of a mess to clean up :o :lol: :D

Isn’t Trudeau a communist dictator who sent swat teams into people’s homes during the covid and sent swat teams after the truckers freedom convoy?

And how is Trump senile? Biden yeah, we’ve seen him fall down and up numerous times, slurs his speech, and sometimes forgets what he’s talking about, where he’s at or what year it is. Say what you want about Trump, but he hasn’t shown any signs of being senile, he’s actually pretty sharp for his age compared to Biden.

Biden created that mess. Biden and Trudeau are both WEF puppets, the mess will get worse in 2024 if they stay in power.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Isn’t Trudeau a communist dictator who sent swat teams into people’s homes during the covid and sent swat teams after the truckers freedom convoy?

Yup, that’s Blackface Trudeau! :D

[Sumac]

Biden created that mess. Biden and Trudeau are both WEF puppets, the mess will get worse in 2024 if they stay in power.
Obama had created this mess by being a soft idiot.

[Cowabung-Gal]

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If this is in fact true, this is one of Disney’s most epic fails :lol::lol::lol:

[Coola Yagami]

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If this is in fact true, this is one of Disney’s most epic fails :lol::lol::lol:

I always said they were two sides of the same coin.

[ChosenOne]

I always said they were two sides of the same coin.

Hillary's a side, alright... A side of beef.

[Mayhem]

Isn’t Trudeau a communist dictator who sent swat teams into people’s homes during the covid and sent swat teams after the truckers freedom convoy?
I know a few people in Canada and none of them supported the truckers in the slightest… and they aren’t even Trudeau supporters.

[Cowabung-Gal]

I know a few people in Canada and none of them supported the truckers in the slightest… and they aren’t even Trudeau supporters.

A few out of how many? Millions? And maybe deep down they did in fact support the truckers, but they were afraid of speaking out because then they’d have their bank accounts frozen like how some people did, including a hardworking single mom.

[Coola Yagami]

I know a few people in Canada and none of them supported the truckers in the slightest… and they aren’t even Trudeau supporters.

They probably were for them but couldn't say so openly due to the repercussions of speaking positively about them.

Or they were big babies complaining about the truck horns and caring more about 'getting some sleep' than worrying about the bigger picture and how their country was becoming more and more authoritarian.

[Mayhem]

Well if you are that believing in conspiracy they'd get in some sort of trouble for randomly telling me this in discussion via text message or online chat, then I don't know what to really think...

As for Trump, I found this a really good explanation about what's going on court case wise. Stick with the 7 minutes, as it also covers Clinton and Biden too, and why the charges against Trump are different to what happened to them.

https://www.tiktok.com/@iampoliticsgirl/video/7250255089846275371?_r=1&_t=8dg4jLR2v87

[ChosenOne]

We know why.

[Warhorse]

Why not surprised here… he’s broke…


https://i.imgur.com/fXba3od.jpg

I know for a fact that this "report" is false! I was there to witness him paying the bill, so the media is at it again with their lies.

[TheCanadiandrome]

And how is Trump senile? Biden yeah, we’ve seen him fall down and up numerous times, slurs his speech, and sometimes forgets what he’s talking about, where he’s at or what year it is. Say what you want about Trump, but he hasn’t shown any signs of being senile, he’s actually pretty sharp for his age compared to Biden.

Lmao and Trumps never slurred his speeches or sounded half-mental?! Haha that’s the funniest goddamn thing I’ve been read :lol: :lol: :o

[Cowabung-Gal]

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DISGUSTING :x

[ChosenOne]

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DISGUSTING :x

Someone should sock this overgrown prune of an *sshole right in his f*cking pedo mouth, and my single greatest regret is that I'll probably never get that chance.

[ZariusTwo]

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DISGUSTING :x

He's only pretend biting, parents do this to babies all the time. Unclench.

[Cowabung-Gal]

He's only pretend biting, parents do this to babies all the time. Unclench.

Except that’s not her “parent”. That’s a strange old man who’s infamously known for sniffing other children like some pervert…among other things.

[Mayhem]

Still better than pussy grabbing...

[Cowabung-Gal]

Still better than pussy grabbing...

That was just locker-room talk, and he was talking about how a lot of women in the Hollywood industry tend to get all hussy around rich guys. I read much worse things in fanfiction, most of which are written by girls by the way. :lol:

Not saying that Trump is morally clean and perfect like how the Trump fanatics may claim (good grief, no), but the guy can’t even fart without causing an uproar from the media. They try to find any reason to crucify him no matter how stupid it may be. With Biden, however, he could actually grab a woman by the p***y in public and on live TV and the media would still defend him, and anyone who criticizes his bad behavior is obviously alt-right.

[ChosenOne]

Still better than pussy grabbing...

How is being a pedo better than being attracted to women...?

[Vegita-San]

Still better than pussy grabbing...

yet he's never been sued. And one or two of the complaints have been called as 'never having happened'.

if this is all you've got, try again. besides, grabbing a age appropriate cat is better than trying too bite a kid.

[Barkworm]

if this is all you've got, try again. besides, grabbing a age appropriate cat is better than trying too bite a kid.
"I'd rather have my president assault a grown-up than a kid!" How about no assault? I miss the 2000s when everyone in Europe thought George W. was the worst president ever.

[Coola Yagami]

"I'd rather have my president assault a grown-up than a kid!" How about no assault?

I think you're asking too much of presidents nowadays.

[ChosenOne]

"I'd rather have my president assault a grown-up than a kid!" How about no assault? I miss the 2000s when everyone in Europe thought George W. was the worst president ever.

Dubya assaulted two whole countries. Nice try.

[Coola Yagami]

They all can't be classy gentlemen like Bill Clinton.



Oh wait.

[ChosenOne]

They all can't be classy gentlemen like Bill Clinton.



Oh wait.

Close, but no cigar.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Close, but no cigar.

I can’t help but think of that every time I see this photo:

https://chumley.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/20/Bill-Clinton-cigar1.jpg

[ChosenOne]

I can’t help but think of that every time I see this photo:

https://chumley.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/20/Bill-Clinton-cigar1.jpg

Slightly moist, delightfully fragrant!

[Mayhem]

Dry cleaned dresses too

[Mayhem]

Had to chuckle at this given all the “Biden is infirm” comments…

https://imgur.com/6aBcjYX

[Dpooly84]

I guess they finally got him, they have joe Biden on telephone recordings backing his Crack head son, committing treason!

[Mayhem]

Trump proclaiming he's about to be indited again. We shall see. Nothing like a "look at me" post to rally supporters and grift more legal fee donations...

[Andrew NDB]

Trump proclaiming he's about to be indited again. We shall see. Nothing like a "look at me" post to rally supporters and grift more legal fee donations...

It already happened. You're behind. About January 6th. The only one with any traction is the one about classified documents. Which will be difficult to proceed when Hillary did even worse, and during an election cycle, same as now.

[Mayhem]

It already happened. You're behind. About January 6th. The only one with any traction is the one about classified documents. Which will be difficult to proceed when Hillary did even worse, and during an election cycle, same as now.
Except she wasn't President, and didn't refuse to hand them back...

[Vegita-San]

it must be sad to live a life of TDS. so little reward, so much anger.

[Andrew NDB]

Except she wasn't President, and didn't refuse to hand them back...

No, no, this is about the server purging she did of classified E-mails the FBI proved had been "probably" accessed by foreign officials. That Comey publicly let her off the hook for because she was running for president. Well, here's Trump. Running for president, also.

[Mayhem]

it must be sad to live a life of TDS. so little reward, so much anger.
Except there’s no anger, just constant facepalming…

[Coola Yagami]

Except there’s no anger, just constant facepalming…

You kiddin'? These lefties are frothing at the mouth over Trump.

[Mayhem]

You kiddin'? These lefties are frothing at the mouth over Trump.
Oh I thought you were referring to me. Not all lefties hate Trump, in the same way not all right wingers like Trump either.

[Coola Yagami]

Oh I thought you were referring to me. Not all lefties hate Trump, in the same way not all right wingers like Trump either.

I'm sure the second one is true. I mean, we got DeSantis fans that choose him over Trump, and J6 did turn off a lot of Righties off of Trump.

I really doubt the first one though, and if they do, they probably keep it quiet or all their leftie friends would eat them alive. Those are the ones that should really be worried about 'coming out'.

[Dpooly84]

I'm sure the second one is true. I mean, we got DeSantis fans that choose him over Trump, and J6 did turn off a lot of Righties off of Trump.

I really doubt the first one though, and if they do, they probably keep it quiet or all their leftie friends would eat them alive. Those are the ones that should really be worried about 'coming out'.

DeSantis, Christie, and Pence have all tried to bad mouth Trump and all are down in the polls meanwhile my man Viveck who I predicted will end up running as vp, has climbed all the way to number 2. As for the second part I haven't seen any dems supporting Trump. There was the mayor in Georgia who left the dems for Repubs, but that was over the crime in her city.

[Dpooly84]

Is any one else ready for another civil war? I'm ready, I'm in AZ ready to push all the way to the pacific.

[Mayhem]

There IS a difference between hating and supporting you know ;)

(as in you may not support them, but that doesn’t mean you hate them, it’s not a Sith absolute!)

And while Trump’s charged co-conspirators haven’t been named, it’s pretty obvious who they all are… Mr Sweaty HairDye being #1

[Autbot_Benz]

Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis said late Monday that former President Donald Trump and his 18 allies who were indicted on 41 criminal counts have until noon ET on Friday, Aug. 25 to surrender.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indictment-fulton-county-district-attorney-fani-willis-speaks/

[Andrew NDB]

A total joke.

[Coola Yagami]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indictment-fulton-county-district-attorney-fani-willis-speaks/

What do they mean by 'surrender'? They make it sound like Trump has his place barricaded and surrounded by armed troops.

[Mayhem]

Turn up at the court, have the details filed and taken/recorded, plead to the charges. After that, I assume bail. However unlike the previous three, this Georgia court room allows transmission coverage, so expect this to be broadcast live…

[IMJ]

What do they mean by 'surrender'? They make it sound like Trump has his place barricaded and surrounded by armed troops.

When you show up for a summons or for a law enforcement action of your own volition that is, categorically, a "surrender". It's the legality and textbook use of the word rather than the "Hollywood gunfight, driving a starship we surrender" to the enemy thing.

You are in effect, surrendering your body to the inquisitive or law enforcement body.

[Mayhem]

Also to note, due to the charges, Trump and his accomplices are far more likely to suffer massive restrictions on where and how far they can go afterwards before proceedings properly start. If he's found guilty of the racketeering charges, he can't pardom himself of those convictions if he becomes President again.

[Dpooly84]

Also to note, due to the charges, Trump and his accomplices are far more likely to suffer massive restrictions on where and how far they can go afterwards before proceedings properly start. If he's found guilty of the racketeering charges, he can't pardom himself of those convictions if he becomes President again.

You mean there trying to stop him from becoming President again? But he he keeps going up in polls hum???

[Mayhem]

You mean there trying to stop him from becoming President again? But he he keeps going up in polls hum???
The points I note before would apply to anyone under the same charges, not just Trump. And while certain convictions definitely stop certain demographics of the population from being able to vote, and anyone actually inside prison at the time of course, it seemingly does not prevent you running for President. For whatever reason. But if he's found guilty of the racketeering charges, he can't pardon himself if he does get voted in again, and thus will always have a criminal record and never be able to vote.

[Bahamut810]

This entire thing is going to be a sht show.

1. There is no possible way for Trump to get a fair trial. None. He is such a polarizing figure that it would be neigh impossible to find a group (judicial/legal/jury/ect) who aren't severely pro or anti.

2. The optics of this are severely in the realm of a political prosecution to keep him out of office. They have spent the last, what, 8 years trying to vilify him and keep saying that they will get him...and it finally happens right around time to start the next election happens throwing a bounty of things at him. Really?

3. All this comes up when there is more and more interest growing in the current administrations 'interesting connections' and old age dementia as well.

4. Part of this is over January 6th...which was nothing compared to the summer of love that was egged on instigated by some senators and other political figures who aren't being held to the same liability.

I do not like Trump overall. I like some of his policies but some of his personality and attitudes kill me. Even I hope that he can hold everyone involved legally accountable for this blatant political persecution.

[IMJ]

This entire thing is going to be a sht show.

1. There is no possible way for Trump to get a fair trial. None. He is such a polarizing figure that it would be neigh impossible to find a group (judicial/legal/jury/ect) who aren't severely pro or anti.

2. The optics of this are severely in the realm of a political prosecution to keep him out of office. They have spent the last, what, 8 years trying to vilify him and keep saying that they will get him...and it finally happens right around time to start the next election happens throwing a bounty of things at him. Really?

3. All this comes up when there is more and more interest growing in the current administrations 'interesting connections' and old age dementia as well.

4. Part of this is over January 6th...which was nothing compared to the summer of love that was egged on instigated by some senators and other political figures who aren't being held to the same liability.

I do not like Trump overall. I like some of his policies but some of his personality and attitudes kill me. Even I hope that he can hold everyone involved legally accountable for this blatant political persecution.

The haters here will never cop to any of that, especially your item #4 there. :lol: They don't care about "truth" - just the agenda of nu-hate.

But in any event, item #1 there is probably one of the ways that many of these charges could be thrown out. If the facts can't be evaluated fairly then they can't be evaluated.

In all the ways that count we had the strongest country under Trump that we've possibly ever had, but you know - when you hate then nothing else matters but the vendetta. This is also how grammar school girls operate.

[Vegita-San]

Also to note, due to the charges, Trump and his accomplices are far more likely to suffer massive restrictions on where and how far they can go afterwards before proceedings properly start. If he's found guilty of the racketeering charges, he can't pardom himself of those convictions if he becomes President again.

the fact that you are ok with almost ten years of persecution too get a man too stop running, maybe you should give the kremlin a try instead of the usa.

Notice all this ramps up again around election time? 2015-2023...NOTHING has worked... and all that has been accused, the democrats have been found guilty of, going scott free.

Biden should have been impeached by now.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Biden should have been impeached by now.

He should’ve been in a senior home by now.

[Coola Yagami]

It's become a bit of a running joke now that every time the Bidens come under any sort of question (currently it's the money they keep sending to Ukraine) Trump gets indicted again.

[Vegita-San]

He should’ve been in a senior home by now.

not denying that. but then we'd get President Virtue Signal. shudder

[TurtleManiac]

Haters gonna hate! Trump is more popular than you think. Don’t listen to all the fake twitter bots, losers and suckers. They don’t work or contribute anything to society. All the bogus trials and propaganda by commies and left-wing biggots means nothing to me. Do you really think half the country is ok seeing these crooked politicians become billionaires as public servants, while the average citizen cost of living goes way up thanks to “bidenomics”?! And now trying to shut down and silence the opposition?


He should’ve been in a senior home by now.

Will there be chocolate chip ice cream?

All those senile corrupt old dinosaur politicians clinging on to power (Feinstein, Pelosi, McConnell etc). All those swamp scum refuse to retire. Can’t believe people in their 90’s are still in congress.

It's become a bit of a running joke now that every time the Bidens come under any sort of question (currently it's the money they keep sending to Ukraine) Trump gets indicted again.

“That’s a fact, Jack!”

Found this timeline of recent events

https://i.imgur.com/ghCfMYC.png?2

[IMJ]

It's just so telling that the peasant outrage fueled by "Feudal Lord" manipulation during the Trump years was over police, border protection and an allegedly "raaassssssscist" Trump.

But now you have Biden. And....?

Very telling about the truth of that cross section of the population.

[Dpooly84]

Bush let Putin invade Georgia, Obama let Putin invade Crimea, now Biden let's him invade Ukraine but yet Trump is the one they try to tie to Russia... hum makes you wonder

[Mayhem]

Biden should have been impeached by now.
On what charge? Serious question. With actual factual provided evidence not from Fox News et al… rumoured contents of laptops do not count.

[Vegita-San]

that last part, you know...the one item denied for years that turned out too be true?.... says that you will deny anything I tell you even if it isn't from truth news.

[Mayhem]

that last part, you know...the one item denied for years that turned out too be true?.... says that you will deny anything I tell you even if it isn't from truth news.
So the President’s son, nothing to do with the Government in itself, has supposedly dodgy info about dealings on a laptop. So what information? What is purportedly on there that would lead to an impeachment? I’m asking, please tell me what the information is and do you possess the files to prove a crime? It’s Schroedingers hard drive, it may be there, it may not be. Can you actually spell out what proves an offence worthy of an impeachment for the President? These are all serious questions, genuine, I’m listening and awaiting answers from you.

[Sumac]

So the President’s son, nothing to do with the Government in itself, has supposedly dodgy info about dealings on a laptop. So what information? What is purportedly on there that would lead to an impeachment? I’m asking, please tell me what the information is and do you possess the files to prove a crime? It’s Schroedingers hard drive, it may be there, it may not be. Can you actually spell out what proves an offence worthy of an impeachment for the President? These are all serious questions, genuine, I’m listening and awaiting answers from you.
Supposedly dealings of Hunter with an Ukrainian government for a lucrative place in their oil company or some such.
Which supposedly points to the Biden basically helping his son with his dealings, which is illegal, you know.

[Andrew NDB]

Basically Hunter bullying Chinese companies into sending over hundreds of millions of dollars that has been traced showing up in Biden shell companies, all while using his dad as leverage and even having his dad call in occasionally. Also Ukrainian stuff, where is looks like Biden leaned on Ukraine to fire someone who was looking into what Hunter was doing (which was picking up large bags of cash from Ukraine), while claiming it was just because he was corrupt.

And things have pretty humorously shifted from, "Biden never knew anything about Hunter's business dealings, he would never ask him about that" to quietly "Biden didn't do anything wrong."

[Mayhem]

Supposedly dealings of Hunter with an Ukrainian government for a lucrative place in their oil company or some such.
Which supposedly points to the Biden basically helping his son with his dealings, which is illegal, you know.
May be, but not impeachment worthy as far as I can see. Next…

[Vegita-San]

Supposedly dealings of Hunter with an Ukrainian government for a lucrative place in their oil company or some such.
Which supposedly points to the Biden basically helping his son with his dealings, which is illegal, you know.

you guys have more patience than I do. He'll defend the demonrats too the death. but be gleefully singing at trumps hanging party....

[Mayhem]

Basically Hunter bullying Chinese companies into sending over hundreds of millions of dollars that has been traced showing up in Biden shell companies, all while using his dad as leverage and even having his dad call in occasionally. Also Ukrainian stuff, where is looks like Biden leaned on Ukraine to fire someone who was looking into what Hunter was doing (which was picking up large bags of cash from Ukraine), while claiming it was just because he was corrupt.

And things have pretty humorously shifted from, "Biden never knew anything about Hunter's business dealings, he would never ask him about that" to quietly "Biden didn't do anything wrong."
All very dubious, yes, but the money is presumably not going to Joe (unlike Trump and his Russian money allegations), Hunter has nothing to do with the Government and thus doesn’t work for Joe, so… it’s not like boxes of state secrets in a toilet now. Grey area, very grey area I will agree, should Joe be doing it? Probably not, but I don’t think his involvement is serious enough to be impeached.

[Mayhem]

you guys have more patience than I do. He'll defend the demonrats too the death. but be gleefully singing at trumps hanging party....
Hardly on the first part, no party is spotless, the Democrats sure are not. So definitely no defending to the death there! If Trump’s hanging party is like the one the locals gave Saddam Hussein, sign me up :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

All very dubious, yes, but the money is presumably not going to Joe (unlike Trump and his Russian money allegations)

It's not really that simple, as money appearing in Joe's own bank account. If he is involved in deals with Hunter in which it can be shown that Joe "benefitted" from them, "benefit" can be any one of a number of things. For example, if a foreign company wanted a favor from me and in exchange, rather than pay me in cash, they offer to take care of my child's college tuition. That is still me "benefitting."

Hunter has nothing to do with the Government and thus doesn’t work for Joe

Yet has stayed long periods of time at the White House and tags along with dad on many foreign dealings and affairs.

Grey area, very grey area I will agree, should Joe be doing it? Probably not, but I don’t think his involvement is serious enough to be impeached.

He will definitely get impeached. And this will kind of be the new norm now.

[Bahamut810]

Bush let Putin invade Georgia, Obama let Putin invade Crimea, now Biden let's him invade Ukraine but yet Trump is the one they try to tie to Russia... hum makes you wonder

Biggest thing I am wondering is which banned person had this account on backup for you to get banned. lol!

[Coola Yagami]

He will definitely get impeached. And this will kind of be the new norm now.

How? In the court of public opinion, Biden is America's number one hero keeping us safe from mean ol Trump and his dastardly tweets.

[Mayhem]

For example, if a foreign company wanted a favor from me and in exchange, rather than pay me in cash, they offer to take care of my child's college tuition. That is still me "benefitting."

Yet has stayed long periods of time at the White House and tags along with dad on many foreign dealings and affairs.

He will definitely get impeached. And this will kind of be the new norm now.
1) Please show me a President who hasn’t done such quid pro quo dealings. Willing to bet they all have.
2) Not employed by or a Government official though. See Ivanka Trump too, although maybe not so much on the foreign trips.
3) Don’t believe so, but we shall wait and see…

[Andrew NDB]

1) Please show me a President who hasn’t done such quid pro quo dealings. Willing to bet they all have.
2) Not employed by or a Government official though. See Ivanka Trump too, although maybe not so much on the foreign trips.
3) Don’t believe so, but we shall wait and see…

I didn't say it hasn't happened before. I'm saying the trigger has been pulled and now both sides will be doing constant impeachments of sitting presidents.

[IMJ]

I didn't say it hasn't happened before. I'm saying the trigger has been pulled and now both sides will be doing constant impeachments of sitting presidents.

You guys routinely keep getting drawn into political debates with a guy who doesn't even live in the U.S. and resorts on circular point-making when it suits him (i.e. "Please show me a President who hasn’t done such quid pro quo dealings. Willing to bet they all have")

Mayhem is not even remotely committed to the truth and presents points as needed rather than in search of a reality. You're arguing with a guy in a straight jacket about American politics while he resides in a U.K. mental hospital.

This is the same kind of guy as that clown who, many years ago, tried to diminish Americans by saying that he's had more travel experience by going to a few different countries surrounding the U.K. than any inexperienced American. Until it was pointed out to him that traveling almost anywhere in the U.S. is it's own cultural experience with a distance and landmass that outweighs any micro-country travel done in the U.K. His point was a fallacy and a power play. These people are full of $#!( while their own countries fall apart left and right and their opinions count entirely on Americans simply paying no attention to non-American politics.

He can have his opinion but literally nobody here should give a $#!( about it. It's completely innert and largely manipulated rather than formed.

[Mayhem]

He can have his opinion but literally nobody here should give a $#!( about it. It's completely innert and largely manipulated rather than formed.
I could say the same about yours, touche (Turtle and away!)...

[Coola Yagami]

You guys routinely keep getting drawn into political debates with a guy who doesn't even live in the U.S. and resorts on circular point-making when it suits him (i.e. "Please show me a President who hasn’t done such quid pro quo dealings. Willing to bet they all have")

Mayhem is not even remotely committed to the truth and presents points as needed rather than in search of a reality. You're arguing with a guy in a straight jacket about American politics while he resides in a U.K. mental hospital.

This is the same kind of guy as that clown who, many years ago, tried to diminish Americans by saying that he's had more travel experience by going to a few different countries surrounding the U.K. than any inexperienced American. Until it was pointed out to him that traveling almost anywhere in the U.S. is it's own cultural experience with a distance and landmass that outweighs any micro-country travel done in the U.K. His point was a fallacy and a power play. These people are full of $#!( while their own countries fall apart left and right and their opinions count entirely on Americans simply paying no attention to non-American politics.

He can have his opinion but literally nobody here should give a $#!( about it. It's completely innert and largely manipulated rather than formed.

Yeah but Mayhem has the advantage of having an outsider's perspective. He's not stuck on any biases since he has no dog in the race, he just sees and reports. Not his fault the truth can be triggering.

[Sumac]

I didn't say it hasn't happened before. I'm saying the trigger has been pulled and now both sides will be doing constant impeachments of sitting presidents.
Good. Maybe it will help get rid politics of full blown retards.

[Mayhem]

They did used to say the best politicians are ones who don’t want the job. Sadly there is so much money on the gravy train, career politicians are all some know how to be.

[Mayhem]

This will be interesting. If I'm reading it correctly, Trump will be severely restricted in even posting on social media after Thursday as part of his bail conditions. I can see repeated "contempt of court" filings looming as a result...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66576277

[Vegita-San]

you realize they are using every trick of the book too get him on SOMETHING/ANYTHING , right? this should worry you.

[Sumac]

There are no wrong methods, just wrong targets - Fascists or Commies, you decide.

[Cowabung-Gal]

you realize they are using every trick of the book too get him on SOMETHING/ANYTHING , right? this should worry you.

But obviously it doesn’t. Because 1.) you’re talking to someone who doesn’t even live in this country and 2.) with the communist left becoming more ruthless and even wanting to bring back the guillotine, I wouldn’t be surprised if public executions of dissidents started taking place in front of the White House, and of course the masses who only consume mainstream propaganda will see that as a “good thing” and even encourage it.

[Coola Yagami]

But obviously it doesn’t. Because 1.) you’re talking to someone who doesn’t even live in this country and 2.) with the communist left becoming more ruthless and even wanting to bring back the guillotine, I wouldn’t be surprised if public executions of dissidents started taking place in front of the White House, and of course the masses who only consume mainstream propaganda will see that as a “good thing” and even encourage it.

I mean these are the same people that wanted to round up all the unvaccinated and line em up at the shooting range. And they meant what they said.

[Cowabung-Gal]

I mean these are the same people that wanted to round up all the unvaccinated and line em up at the shooting range. And they meant what they said.

Oh, I know they meant what they said. That’s why I defend the Second Amendment.

[Vegita-San]

So, what do you think will happen today?

Have they 'finally got 'im'? are many people going too jizz when they see him arriving?

or is this all for show, hoping for another J6 moment?

[Cowabung-Gal]

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“First they came…”

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/0MEJQZX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ic7qNog.gif

[Cowabung-Gal]

https://i.imgur.com/0MEJQZX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ic7qNog.gif

This will be on millions of T-shirts. :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

So what happens now? Four more years of this until all sense of gender, sexuality and identity loses all meaning?

But then again, I don't think he had much chance of winning again. But my god, please get rid of Biden and put someone else in front of the Democrat side.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Trump has posted his mugshot on Twitter/X :lol::lol:

[RaphaelinSTL]

What a pathetic piece of ****. Can’t wait for this ****er to rot.

[ChosenOne]

What a pathetic piece of ****. Can’t wait for this ****er to rot.

So eloquent. So mature. Such valid points.

[Dpooly84]

What a pathetic piece of ****. Can’t wait for this ****er to rot.

Can't wait till he's your Commander and Chief again lol don't be so easily ignited you lil bundle of sticks lmao

[Zulithe]

Trump legitimately lost the election. He hasn't proven otherwise nor can he because it's a big lie because he can't stand losing. His supporters who can't see this are as loony as he is.

Having all these mugshots this week has been extraordinary. Consequences of lies and deception against the American people. Love that dark brandon energy.

You Trumpers who can't stand the left should get behind a real candidate who doesn't lie and beg from his supporters for money nonstop. You're all conned and it's sad.

[Andrew NDB]

Trump legitimately lost the election. He hasn't proven otherwise nor can he because it's a big lie because he can't stand losing.

This is all true. But in regard to the indictment to that end, they're going to have to prove that he didn't believe that he didn't lose. They can't.

[Mayhem]

Had to laugh at this, it was my first thought too seeing the mugshot! :lol:


https://i.ibb.co/C1LJC0Z/7-F5-E6-D79-C902-43-DD-A18-B-72-CECB31-BB4-B.jpg

[Dpooly84]

Trump legitimately lost the election. He hasn't proven otherwise nor can he because it's a big lie because he can't stand losing. His supporters who can't see this are as loony as he is.

Having all these mugshots this week has been extraordinary. Consequences of lies and deception against the American people. Love that dark brandon energy.

You Trumpers who can't stand the left should get behind a real candidate who doesn't lie and beg from his supporters for money nonstop. You're all conned and it's sad.

Lmao just keep that same energy when big Don is back in office, don't start crying when actual treasonous politicians get locked up. Here's your red noise squeeze it when I tell you.

[Andrew NDB]

I just really, really don't see Trump back in office. There's just no way to even see that happening beyond "fingers crossed, hardcore democrats voters just don't vote." I think the best thing that might happen is that these democrat attacks somehow work, voters continue to get annoyed at Trump for this, and we get him disqualified and we get someone else on the ballot. It almost doesn't even matter who it is, beyond the Christie or Haley types (the other ones are non-starters), but even there it'd be favorable to the alternative on the other side of the aisle.

[Barkworm]

This is all true. But in regard to the indictment to that end, they're going to have to prove that he didn't believe that he didn't lose. They can't.
Is that the case they're going to make? If he actually believed he didn't lose despite the lack of evidence, wouldn't that prove that he is mentally unstable?

[Andrew NDB]

Is that the case they're going to make? If he actually believed he didn't lose despite the lack of evidence, wouldn't that prove that he is mentally unstable?

Not at all. The pieces with the people showing him things and saying things doesn't matter. In the court of law, it will literally come down to what he believed in his heart of hearts. Did he believe it inside that he lost or did he not. I'm not kidding you. That's it. And good luck doing that with Trump.

The only thing they've got really against him is the classified documents case. And that stands a pretty good chance of getting thrown out outright in Florida because a pretty great defense against that was Hillary getting a pass for doing the same thing or worse just by the virtue of her being on the ballot for presidential election. Like, they'd need to show in any meaningful way how this was way different than her "bleaching" servers of classified documents and the FBI OKing it because she was up for election, but Trump keeping stuff around or waving them around but not really doing much was worse.

[Dpooly84]

Is that the case they're going to make? If he actually believed he didn't lose despite the lack of evidence, wouldn't that prove that he is mentally unstable?

You really want to talk about mentally unstable when your president said no comment to the media asking about Hawaii after this weekend at bidens sent millions to Ukraine

[Coola Yagami]

I do find it a tad SUS they 'found' all these votes last minute and they ALL or mostly ALL just happen to be for Biden.

Like let's say those discovered votes were more Trump than Biden. Would they have announced that or kept it quiet?

[Coola Yagami]

Not at all. The pieces with the people showing him things and saying things doesn't matter. In the court of law, it will literally come down to what he believed in his heart of hearts. Did he believe it inside or did he not. I'm not kidding you. That's it. And good luck doing that with Trump.

The only thing they've got really against him is the classified documents case. And that stands a pretty good chance of getting thrown out outright in Florida because a pretty great defense against that was Hillary getting a pass for doing the same thing or worse just by the virtue of her being on the ballot for presidential election. Like, they'd need to show in any meaningful way how this was way different than her "bleaching" servers of classified documents and the FBI OKing it because she was up for election, but Trump keeping stuff around or waving them around but not really doing much was worse.

Yeah but all of this is coming from a fair trial, with a fair and impartial jury and judge. That's impossible. Everyone either loves the guy or hates the guy. You'd have to find a jury of people living under rocks for the last decade or so. People that literally only know Trump as that one guy in that home alone movie. Seeing he was president that's impossible.

[ChosenOne]

You Trumpers who can't stand the left should get behind a real candidate who doesn't lie and beg from his supporters for money nonstop. You're all conned and it's sad.

You sheep can't stand that you rallied behind a sick little puppet who brought the world nothing but poverty, shame and free reign for dictatorial terrorists who line his pockets and his son's, and you sh*t on Trump to make yourselves feel better about your poor choices. You're all conned and it’s not sad at all because that's to be expected from useful idiots.

[Cowabung-Gal]

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These memes are hilarious. That Shawn Farash guy at 8:40 is awesome :lol::lol::lol:

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah but all of this is coming from a fair trial, with a fair and impartial jury and judge. That's impossible. Everyone either loves the guy or hates the guy. You'd have to find a jury of people living under rocks for the last decade or so. People that literally only know Trump as that one guy in that home alone movie. Seeing he was president that's impossible.

Well, the classified documents case is being tried in Florida. So pretty good odds there will be at least one guy on the jury who will be like, "Nah, this is BS."

[robertfiduciary]

...not worth it.

[Coola Yagami]

So I can just walk into any bank, anywhere in the country, insist that all the money is mine, take all of that money out with me, and I'll be fine? Because, you know. I believe "in my heart of hearts" that it's mine?

"Actually, officer, I believe in my heart of hearts that speed limit on this road is actually 120 MPH."

You see now how silly you sound? The law doesn't work that way. In fact, nothing works that way.

Doesn't work that way. Or rather, you can walk into any bank, anywhere in the country and insist all the money is yours because you believe so. Yes you can. They just won't give it to you. Same with the speeding ticket.

When trying to prove intent, Trump will literally die on the hill that the election was robbed. There's no way to convince him otherwise.

TBH it's hard to see how he would not. He was in the lead, he declared victory. There was a sudden 'BUT WAIT!!!' and suddenly all these votes appeared, coincidentally all or most being for Biden. Never in the history of a presidency has anything like this happened before. And it's also a coincidence it just so happened to happen to someone most people didn't want to win at any cost. Imagine if there was a sudden 'whoops we lost some votes' but against a loveable guy like Bill Clinton (at the time) or Obama.

The more you play it back, the more sus it looks. Now I'm not saying anything as a fact, I was not there, I didn't find the votes, count the votes, nor was I in the room when they suddenly found these extra votes. I'm just saying an awful lot of convenient things all seem to happen and fall into place. Was that election robbed? Who knows. We might never know or never be allowed to know. Is it sus as all hell? Definitely.

Like I wanted Trump out too, I also voted Biden. But I wanted Trump out the right way. Not the 'by any means necessary' way. I now want Biden out. But because he'll lose to a better candidate. Not because 'whoops we found magic votes' which won't happen anways because those sort of things don't happen to people 'on the left side of history'.

Like the cop that was involved in the death of Floyd. I wanted him found guilty the right way. Not the 'you better find him guilty or we will burn this city to the ground overnight' way. There was no way that judge was gonna make it home alive that night if for whatever reason he chose any other verdict.

[TurtleManiac]

lies and deception against the American people. Love that dark brandon energy.


Why would anyone love that? Unless you enjoy seeing America crumble. But you’re right, he did lie to his voters about student loan forgiveness and reparations payments, and has been deceiving the American people ever since he took office in 2021, while enabling historic inflation, medical tyranny, funding an endless war with U.S. taxpayer dollars, open borders and allowing thousands of unchecked migrants to enter the U.S., and now political persecution of a former President, all part of the “dark brandon” agenda.

[IMJ]

So I can just walk into any bank, anywhere in the country, insist that all the money is mine, take all of that money out with me, and I'll be fine? Because, you know. I believe "in my heart of hearts" that it's mine?

This from the guy that belongs to the belief system that you can just walk into a ladies room, anywhere in the country, insist that you are a woman even though you are a man, take a huge heaping $#!( while a real woman sits uncomfortably 2 feet from you, and it should be fine? Because, you know. You believe "in your heart of hearts" that you are a woman even though you are a man?

Yeah. Might want to find something better than your convenient reversion to cliche arguments there. Especially when you are clearly unequipped to deliver legal commentary on "intent" under the domain of law.

Hater fool.

[Dpooly84]

This from the guy that belongs to the belief system that you can just walk into a ladies room, anywhere in the country, insist that you are a woman even though you are a man, take a huge heaping $#!( while a real woman sits uncomfortably 2 feet from you, and it should be fine? Because, you know. You believe "in your heart of hearts" that you are a woman even though you are a man?

Yeah. Might want to find something better than your convenient reversion to cliche arguments there. Especially when you are clearly unequipped to deliver legal commentary on "intent" under the domain of law.

Hater fool.

Facts, preach brother

[robertfiduciary]

...not worth it.

[Sumac]

Ignorant fool.
Anyone supporting modern left is precisely that, so I, guess, thanks for an at self-description.

[Mayhem]

If Trump is claiming to be 6'3" and 215, then believing he won the 2020 election is mere child's play :lol:

[ChosenOne]

(...) projecting on me (...) Usually I insist on dinner and a movie first

Ewwwwww...

[IMJ]

Ewwwwww...

Right? :lol:

Love how that's the best that the Fidoosh has in response to a perfectly cogent point. :lol:
I could just imagine that fool reading the post above and just melting down with smoking-ears and frothing-mouth at the airtight perfection of my point.... like this:

https://i.imgur.com/5AJayNlt.gif

Even more hysterical when you realize that RobertFiduciary's post above actually conforms to the spirit of this graphic perfectly when measured against the point I made:

https://i.imgur.com/V8X4ATdm.jpg
:lol:

Sorry Fidoosh - your already strained credibility is gone after that one LMFAO! SMH After you are done banging on your keyboard try to calm down and fix your life - and don't eat those plastic things on your desk - those your keys to the keyboard, you can just put them right back on.

:lol::lol::lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Let's ease up on the personal attacks before the mods come in.

Trump doesn't care about anyone on this forum, so let's keep it calm so no one here gets in trouble or anything.

[IMJ]

Let's ease up on the personal attacks before the mods come in.

Trump doesn't care about anyone on this forum, so let's keep it calm so no one here gets in trouble or anything.

I called him a fool because his point was circular and manipulative as evidenced by his own words. Therefore fact in that instance. As opposed to RobertFiduciary calling me a fool because he bugged-up at being hemmed-up over his own word-ploy and didn't know how else to respond when looking foolish. Therefore an insult to me in that instance.

For anyone who understands nuance, the only person who flung an arbitrary, childlike insult was RobertFiduciary.

But honestly, it's no big deal to me. I rely on the smart people in the room to interpret these truths, not those who use them. I'm not worried about that here. That guy is nothing to me and can continue to be until he shows his true colors. I'm going to have to take the "Leo656" position of confidence on that one and label it a "stands as written" for my part given my exchange was clearly correlated to immediate and proximate fact.

But I know where you are coming from and I appreciate you, man.

[ChosenOne]

I know Trump doesn't care about any of us personally, nor do I require him to. That's not the point. All I want is that feeling of worldwide optimism and normalcy from his first term back. Show me someone else who can demonstrably pull it off and I'll gladly support them instead. Biden ain't it, chief.

[Dpooly84]

It sure would be nice to have a president that cares more for his own people rather than the people of another country.

[ChosenOne]

It sure would be nice to have a president that cares more for his own people rather than the people of another country.

And ironically enough, putting America first ends up helping every other country instead of hurting them, and often moreso than aiding directly. But I guess some people are narrow-minded enough to only fret about mean Tweets and a sassy attitude.

[Dpooly84]

And ironically enough, putting America first ends up helping every other country instead of hurting them, and often moreso than aiding directly. But I guess some people are narrow-minded enough to only fret about mean Tweets and a sassy attitude.

I just got back after a week long ban, I think I catch your drift lol

[Mayhem]

It sure would be nice to have a president that cares more for his own people rather than the people of another country.
You think Trump cares about you? Oh dear :lol:

[ChosenOne]

You think Trump cares about you? Oh dear :lol:

He cares a lot more about anyone, including yourself, than Biden and his globalist ilk ever will. One can tell from, say, the variations in the cost of living and gas prices.

[KROW]

You sheep can't stand that you rallied behind a sick little puppet who brought the world nothing but poverty, shame and free reign for dictatorial terrorists who line his pockets and his son's, and you sh*t on Trump to make yourselves feel better about your poor choices. You're all conned and it’s not sad at all because that's to be expected from useful idiots.

There are not many things more hilariously ironic than a Trump supporter calling someone else a sheep.

[Coola Yagami]

Let's be honest. Trump, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Bush, none of them care about any of us. To different degrees, they're only in it for themselves.

[Cowabung-Gal]

BDf2L2NF56M

:lol::lol::lol:

https://www.looper.com/img/gallery/things-only-adults-notice-about-ken/intro-1690488270.webp

[TurtleManiac]

There are not many things more hilariously ironic than a Trump supporter calling someone else a sheep.

So does that make you a Biden supporter? Or just a Trump hater?

Sheep mentality is obedience to big government propaganda, following orders from commies etc. “for the greater good” I.E. following the little signs and arrows in grocery store aisles during the covid in 2020.

We saw alot of sheep mentality in 2020-2021. But some blue states gov went hard with it, forcing everyone to comply with their orders and mandates, or be discriminated against.


Let's be honest. Trump, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Bush, none of them care about any of us. To different degrees, they're only in it for themselves.

Trump is the only one of those guys who wasn’t a career politician, he was already a billionaire before he entered politics. He probably has the least to gain from this out of all those guys. He’s an outsider, that’s why they hate him so much.

BDf2L2NF56M

:lol::lol::lol:

https://www.looper.com/img/gallery/things-only-adults-notice-about-ken/intro-1690488270.webp

I thought that was hilarious too, seeing Jenna Ellis big smile on the mugshot :lol:

Woulda been funny if Trump did that too.

Can anyone name something that has improved since Biden took office? Like, anything at all, that is better now than it was under Trump? Asking for a friend.

[ZariusTwo]

There are not many things more hilariously ironic than a Trump supporter calling someone else a sheep.

Of all the instances where you could choose to be a bigger, more intellectual person and provided arguments in favour of what you could perceive to be the Biden administration's key strengths to someone who could do with some convincing, you instead opted for the basic "NO, U":lol:


And before you say it, I'm no Trump supporter.

[KROW]

So does that make you a Biden supporter? Or just a Trump hater?

The answer to that question doesn't matter. And if it matters to you, even doubly so.

Of all the instances where you could choose to be a bigger, more intellectual person and provided arguments in favour of what you could perceive to be the Biden administration's key strengths to someone who could do with some convincing, you instead opted for the basic "NO, U":lol:


And before you say it, I'm no Trump supporter.

I've learned that when it comes to politics, convincing is futile. All the evidence and citations in the world would only make me look like Charlie from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" at the cork board.

[IndigoErth]

He cares a lot more about anyone, including yourself, than Biden and his globalist ilk ever will. One can tell from, say, the variations in the cost of living and gas prices.
So you're then saying that all of humanity is devoid of caring about anyone else anymore. Because Mr. Immediately-use-a-mugshot-to-profit-off-supporters Trump (among all his other bull*** forever) sure ain't any example otherwise.

[ChosenOne]

There are not many things more hilariously ironic than a Trump supporter calling someone else a sheep.

And yet you popped up. :)

So you're then saying that all of humanity is devoid of caring about anyone else anymore. Because Mr. Immediately-use-a-mugshot-to-profit-off-supporters Trump (among all his other bull*** forever) sure ain't any example otherwise.

Yeah, I won't even try to make sense of that deliberately confusing word salad. "Booga, booga," etc.

[IndigoErth]

If that's salad it's just lettuce with a basic dressing, but okay.

[KROW]

And yet you popped up. :)

And your nonsensical response proved how much a waste of time it was. So thanks for that.

[ChosenOne]

If that's salad it's just lettuce with a basic dressing, but okay.

Thank you, chef, but if I want a vegetable, I'll visit the White House.

And your nonsensical response proved how much a waste of time it was. So thanks for that.

One good nonsensical response deserves another. You're welcome.

[Mayhem]

If Trump was truly a billionaire, he wouldn’t need to constantly grift for money, or persuade people they need his deluded orange mug on a… well, mug, to sell to mugs who think he cares about them. He doesn’t, only your money and how it can help him.

[ChosenOne]

If Trump was truly a billionaire, he wouldn’t need to constantly grift for money, or persuade people they need his deluded orange mug on a… well, mug, to sell to mugs who think he cares about them. He doesn’t, only your money and how it can help him.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Here we have a textbook example of why not just anyone can be a billionaire.

[Andrew NDB]

If Trump was truly a billionaire, he wouldn’t need to constantly grift for money, or persuade people they need his deluded orange mug on a… well, mug, to sell to mugs who think he cares about them. He doesn’t, only your money and how it can help him.

Please educate us all on how best to become a billionaire, then. We need your guidance and experience.

[Mayhem]

Please educate us all on how best to become a billionaire, then. We need your guidance and experience.
Inheriting it, buying things that may increase in value, and his brand, that’s a pretty strong thing to nurture over the last 30+ years. As a businessman in general, he’s pretty poor, having claimed business bankruptcy six times.

[Sumac]

If Trump was truly a billionaire, he wouldn’t need to constantly grift for money, or persuade people they need his deluded orange mug on a… well, mug, to sell to mugs who think he cares about them. He doesn’t, only your money and how it can help him.
LOL. Whether you like him or not, he is stacked.
Maybe not a billionaire, but his certainly not poor guy.

And where is he grifting for money? I know BLM was grifting for money, which is where all those nice mansions for its leaders came from, I know Biden's kid was grifting money from Ukraine, but what Trump was doing?

I know about his supposedly shady deals with his skyscrapers and the like, but for their supposed shadiness, nothing was proven and nothing had came out of it, to the point where Trump is prosecuted for the same **** **** Hilarity did back in 2016 (something she was not prosecuted at all).

[Mayhem]

I mean, it’s so bad that Trump didn’t pay his full $200,000 bail bond in Georgia, instead he put 10% toward it and is working with a local Atlanta bonding company to pay the rest for him. If you can’t even put together a measly $200k…

[ChosenOne]

Inheriting it, buying things that may increase in value, and his brand, that’s a pretty strong thing to nurture over the last 30+ years. As a businessman in general, he’s pretty poor, having claimed business bankruptcy six times.

That you’re operating under the delusion that a successful businessman never makes mistakes or files for bankruptcy speaks volumes. And apparently the fact that Trump clawed his way back from bankruptcy every single time means nothing. Your hatred blinds you.

[TurtleManiac]

I’ve never donated money to a political campaign, why do people on the left insist that all conservatives are fools being grifted into sending money? But at least Trump asks nicely, and there is people and groups that donate. With Biden we don’t have a choice, he doesn’t need to grift, he’s already robbing us blind with high taxes, takes as much as he wants from our paychecks so he can send that money overseas to foreign oligarchs and laundered back to himself. On top of that he still grifts anyway, Biden has been tweeting daily asking for your donations to his ACT Blue campaign fund. Imagine donating to the guy who single handedly destroyed the U.S. economy.

People in urban parts of Atlanta chanting “Free Trump” as the motorcade passed by

https://twitter.com/GrahamAllen_1/status/1695143843765551348?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Go ahead let the big left keep persecuting, let everyone show their true colors.

[Bahamut810]

Inheriting it, buying things that may increase in value, and his brand, that’s a pretty strong thing to nurture over the last 30+ years. As a businessman in general, he’s pretty poor, having claimed business bankruptcy six times.

Trump never declared bankruptcy. Businesses he owned did. There is a big difference. He said it himself when he was running against Hillary that when there was legal loopholes to get out of debt, he was taking it because they let him. Bankruptcy to shrink and consolidate debt was one of those loopholes. He still gets his however much he was paying himself regardless of their solvency.

I mean, it’s so bad that Trump didn’t pay his full $200,000 bail bond in Georgia, instead he put 10% toward it and is working with a local Atlanta bonding company to pay the rest for him. If you can’t even put together a measly $200k…

If he can get someone else to pay it, why would he?

[Mayhem]

Trump never declared bankruptcy. Businesses he owned did. There is a big difference. He said it himself when he was running against Hillary that when there was legal loopholes to get out of debt, he was taking it because they let him. Bankruptcy to shrink and consolidate debt was one of those loopholes. He still gets his however much he was paying himself regardless of their solvency.

If he can get someone else to pay it, why would he?
What do you think “business bankruptcy” means? :roll: Never said he claimed bankruptcy. And getting others to pay is just the arrogance of the man, he can’t pay for anything himself, but I guess that’s how the rich stay rich. The hoi polloi don’t matter. Jeez talk about giving him a pass on his tight fisted grifting, but rail against the current Government for spending your money on things you don’t agree with (newsflash, lots more people DO agree with it)…

[Andrew NDB]

Trump never declared bankruptcy. Businesses he owned did. There is a big difference. He said it himself when he was running against Hillary that when there was legal loopholes to get out of debt, he was taking it because they let him. Bankruptcy to shrink and consolidate debt was one of those loopholes.

True. And it's a funny thing to go after a guy about. Someone takes risks, opens a bunch of businesses, some thrive and some fail. HAHAHA... some of them failed! What a failure you are! Well, hang on... wtf did you ever do? How many businesses did you launch? For every 5 businesses that are launched at least 2 or 3 will ultimately fail, that's just the way it works. It strikes me as a really pathetic perspective, largely one ignorant of business and perhaps coming from a place of envy.

[Dpooly84]

True. And it's a funny thing to go after a guy about. Someone takes risks, opens a bunch of businesses, some thrive and some fail. HAHAHA... some of them failed! What a failure you are! Well, hang on... wtf did you ever do? How many businesses did you launch? For every 5 businesses that are launched at least 2 or 3 will ultimately fail, that's just the way it works. It strikes me as a really pathetic perspective, largely one ignorant of business and perhaps coming from a place of envy.

Absolutely, you start a business and it fails should you never try again? A perspective from someone who doesn't understand economy. It doesn't work on the internet but in real life I will tell people I won't talk politics if you can't name the 3 form's of government lol

[Bahamut810]

What do you think “business bankruptcy” means? :roll: Never said he claimed bankruptcy. And getting others to pay is just the arrogance of the man, he can’t pay for anything himself, but I guess that’s how the rich stay rich. The hoi polloi don’t matter. Jeez talk about giving him a pass on his tight fisted grifting, but rail against the current Government for spending your money on things you don’t agree with (newsflash, lots more people DO agree with it)…

He very specifically said he took those loopholes because the system was made for him to do that, it was a big point in that portion of the 'debate' he was in. I doubt you would pay for something you didn't have to pay for. Why wouldn't he take advantage of them? Yes, wealthy gain wealth by not giving it away. I doubt you would pay for something you didn't have to pay for.

You are claiming that he is 'pretty poor' as a 'business man in general' because he took advantage of programs and loopholes available to him, that he has a brand that he sells things under and that he doesn't pay what he can get others to pay. I would guarantee that was not the case because of those same things.

[Wednesday's Serial]

So weird to see you all debating how strong a businessman Trump is when he's a known conman. Just silly.

[Dpooly84]

So weird to see you all debating how strong a businessman Trump is when he's a known conman. Just silly.

So silly seeing a punk ass bitch throw out a no comment so easily as you do.

[Coola Yagami]

So weird to see you all debating how strong a businessman Trump is when he's a known conman. Just silly.

I mean.... aren't they all?

[Dpooly84]

Ban me again I don't care I'm not gonna sit silent while these easily offended lil bundles of sticks get to **** talk all they want. Squeeze your nose

[Sumac]

So weird to see you all debating how strong a businessman Trump is when he's a known conman. Just silly.
Proves? Links?
Otherwise, I am gonna call you a liar.

[Wednesday's Serial]

Oh please, PLEASE look it up for yourself. It's not like it's a secret or hard to find the information. If I post anything you all will just reject it, but I promise you it's true, and it's not hard to find.

[Wednesday's Serial]

I mean.... aren't they all?

Very true. Though Trump is unique in that he's run so many Cons before any political office it feels different, though ya, the corrupt seek power.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh please, PLEASE look it up for yourself. It's not like it's a secret or hard to find the information. If I post anything you all will just reject it, but I promise you it's true, and it's not hard to find.

Very true. Though Trump is unique in that he's run so many Cons before any political office it feels different, though ya, the corrupt seek power.

Yeesh. They got you good, didn't they?

[TurtleManiac]

Have you seen Trump’s cameo on Fresh Prince Of Bel Air? He shows up at Uncle Phil’s house aka Shredder. It’s hilarious!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wZPrrLve2Eo&pp=ygUSZnJlc2ggcHJpbmNlIHRydW1w

OMG Carlton’s reaction! :lol:

Donald Trump was a beloved pop culture icon back in the 90’s, kinda like a Hugh Hefner type. It wasn’t until he ran for President against the Democrats, beat them, and exposed their corruption for the whole world to see, that the DC establishment and globalists started painting him as a villain, to cover up their own crimes. They’re going hard now with all these indictments.

All the haters, losers, suckers, commies, left-wing biggots, had been brainwashed into thinking that all their problems would go away once Trump left office, but they’ve been conned by their own party, things have actually gotten worse. They were conned into thinking that Biden, a man with a racist past and spent most of his political career pushing segregation laws and crime bills, would make a better President than Trump.

Crazy how bad things have gotten since Biden took office, and those nevertrumper type people still support him, bad case of Stockholm Syndrome.

[ChosenOne]

Oh please, PLEASE look it up for yourself. It's not like it's a secret or hard to find the information. If I post anything you all will just reject it, but I promise you it's true, and it's not hard to find.

It's even easier to look up how much everything crumbled the moment you crybabies managed to rig an election to oust Trump from the presidency. Go grocery shopping, fill up your tank or turn on the news, it’s no secret. And any problems you had before 2016 are still there on top of that. Maybe you're more worried about the f*g flag than your own livelihood and the economy, but the rest of us have to live in the real world.

[IndigoErth]

I dunno about you guys, but I definitely rigged it locally. I snuck into the nearby former-fire station and set up fake "voting machines" that were just holograms so that they didn't record anything.

[Storm Wolf]

I dunno about you guys, but I definitely rigged it locally. I snuck into the nearby former-fire station and set up fake "voting machines" that were just holograms so that they didn't record anything.

CLEVER!

here I was using the ouija board to gather ballots. I bet your method required less leg work.

[IndigoErth]

CLEVER!

here I was using the ouija board to gather ballots. I bet your method required less leg work.
Well I did have to walk over there, as leaving my car parked outside would have looked suspicious. Then I had to walk inside and back home.

Good job collecting the votes of the deceased!

[Coola Yagami]

I dunno about you guys, but I definitely rigged it locally. I snuck into the nearby former-fire station and set up fake "voting machines" that were just holograms so that they didn't record anything.

I knew it! It makes so much sense now! And Krang and Shredder sent you the technology!

We cracked the code!! Bumbling 80s Shredder is the real president and is using Biden as a figurehead. The reason they keep sending money to the Ukraine is because the Technodrome is buried there!!

[TurtleManiac]

I knew it! It makes so much sense now! And Krang and Shredder sent you the technology!

We cracked the code!! Bumbling 80s Shredder is the real president and is using Biden as a figurehead. The reason they keep sending money to the Ukraine is because the Technodrome is buried there!!

Ya know there actually is some similarities there. On Turtles In Time Arcade Game on the Sewer Surfin’ level, Shredder warns the Turtles “My patience is wearing thin, I’m banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return”. That is the same exact thing Biden said when demonizing the un-vaccinated back in 2021, he said “My patience is wearing thin” like he’s getting ready to banish the unvaxxed. Can’t recall hearing that phrase “my patience is wearing thin” a whole lot of other times, just from Shredder and Biden, lol.

Villains think alike.

[Coola Yagami]

Ya know there actually is some similarities there. On Turtles In Time Arcade Game on the Sewer Surfin’ level, Shredder warns the Turtles “My patience is wearing thin, I’m banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return”. That is the same exact thing Biden said when demonizing the un-vaccinated back in 2021, he said “My patience is wearing thin” like he’s getting ready to banish the unvaxxed. Can’t recall hearing that phrase “my patience is wearing thin” a whole lot of other times, just from Shredder and Biden, lol.

Villains think alike.

"My patience is wearing thin! I'm banishing you to a Winter of Death from which you will never return!"

[The Deadman]

Very true. Though Trump is unique in that he's run so many Cons before any political office it feels different, though ya, the corrupt seek power.

Which cons does he run? You should name them for the class.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Oh dang, ChosenOne got banned. :teek:

Was it the flag remark?

[Coola Yagami]

Which cons does he run? You should name them for the class.

Why TrumpCon of course. The best con ever. He knows cons, he knows the best cons. It's gonna be hyyyyuuuuuuuge!!!

[Cowabung-Gal]

Warning: Language

30T8jioDW0g

Yeah, this guy is right: previous presidents and politicians have committed crimes that deserved jail-time yet they got off scot-free.

F-AWoDcZVCY

[Sumac]

I knew it! It makes so much sense now! And Krang and Shredder sent you the technology!

We cracked the code!! Bumbling 80s Shredder is the real president and is using Biden as a figurehead. The reason they keep sending money to the Ukraine is because the Technodrome is buried there!!
Biden is a malfunctioning android.

[Storm Wolf]

I knew it! It makes so much sense now! And Krang and Shredder sent you the technology!

We cracked the code!! Bumbling 80s Shredder is the real president and is using Biden as a figurehead. The reason they keep sending money to the Ukraine is because the Technodrome is buried there!!

Careful now. You know how people tend to "disappear" when they get to close to the truth.

<.< >.>

[Coola Yagami]

Careful now. You know how people tend to "disappear" when they get to close to the truth.

<.< >.>

That might explain those transport module shaped holes in the backyard. Luckily I'm sure Bebop and Rocksteady got the wrong address and grabbed the wrong guy cause I haven't seen 'em. Yet.

[Mayhem]

They really are reaching now :lol:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kimberly-guilfoyle-claims-democrats-designed-donald-trump-s-mugshot-to-embarrass-the-former-president/ar-AA1g3Nj5?ocid=socialshare&cvid=c903a262c1b947da81eb8791fca6359c&ei=255&fbclid=IwAR3UjaQv1Hat-q98sur4LIkCoA2I0u_i92JX17Xm0noECnOAd_p_-TNZnrk_aem_AfbX35UKu9RboRxoAseA6hjrGqDbKgJRMZG3YVl Uw22j57YUqzR3aGK1yLb2M66aM0Q

[LordShredder]

Warning: Language

30T8jioDW0g

Yeah, this guy is right: previous presidents and politicians have committed crimes that deserved jail-time yet they got off scot-free.

F-AWoDcZVCY

Watching that just reminds me of that interrogation scene from Dark Knight Rises I swear that movie becomes more relevant with every passing year.

[Mayhem]

Ah Lauren Boebert, purveyor of family values :lol: At least the Republican Party are condoning her, although I suspect more to preserve its so called image as the party of decency.

“Take your children to CHURCH, not drag bars.”

How about wank your boyfriend off in private not public? :lol: She lectures everyone about the LGBT community being a threat to children while getting caught performing a lewd sex act in a public theatre where children possibly were. This is ‘family values’? This is why people think the GOP are all hypocrites.

https://i.ibb.co/HBfVRft/64096-C80-A9-C9-4-AE7-BBF0-0-C7330080561.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

Ah Lauren Boebert, purveyor of family values :lol: At least the Republican Party are condoning her, although I suspect more to preserve its so called image as the party of decency.

“Take your children to CHURCH, not drag bars.”

How about wank your boyfriend off in private not public? :lol: She lectures everyone about the LGBT community being a threat to children while getting caught performing a lewd sex act in a public theatre where children possibly were. This is ‘family values’? This is why people think the GOP are all hypocrites.

https://i.ibb.co/HBfVRft/64096-C80-A9-C9-4-AE7-BBF0-0-C7330080561.jpg

I wouldn't excuse it, but all-out banging people in the backs of theaters has been a thing since I was a kid. This is not even in the same ballpark of standing in front of the classroom of innocent children telling them there's many genders and, hey, also stop by the library and read about how best to have anal sex with your friend.

[Cowabung-Gal]

I wouldn't excuse it, but all-out banging people in the backs of theaters has been a thing since I was a kid. This is not even in the same ballpark of standing in front of the classroom of innocent children telling them there's many genders and, hey, also stop by the library and read about how best to have anal sex with your friend.

At least our teachers asked our parents’ permission before they showed us sex education videos and gave us sex ed textbooks. With these sex-obsessed weirdos, though, they whisper to the students, “Shhh, don’t tell your parents what we’ve discussed.” Just what can’t be shared outside the classroom?

[Bahamut810]

At least our teachers asked our parents’ permission before they showed us sex education videos and gave us sex ed textbooks. With these sex-obsessed weirdos, though, they whisper to the students, “Shhh, don’t tell your parents what we’ve discussed.” Just what can’t be shared outside the classroom?

Some of it is really bad...what gets me is keeping the books teaching minors how to find adults to have relations with.

[Mayhem]

At least our teachers asked our parents’ permission before they showed us sex education videos and gave us sex ed textbooks. With these sex-obsessed weirdos, though, they whisper to the students, “Shhh, don’t tell your parents what we’ve discussed.” Just what can’t be shared outside the classroom?
I guess things are different here, sex education is part of high school education by default and no permission asked of parents before teaching us.

[Andrew NDB]

My experience is in 5th grade, in elementary school before middle school, they had maybe one or two "sessions" where they told us about sex and reproduction, basically. The period stuff was super mind blowing and grossing amongst us boys. And I have a vague memory of at least advisory slips we had to take to our parents... or something. But then the fun came in 6th grade. There was like 2 or 3 guys with boners who were asked to stand up to answer questions about the same stuff, basically, who refused to stand up. I remember at least two girls who openly said stuff like, "But.. why would anyone want to do that do a girl? Gross!"

[Coola Yagami]

I forgot what grade I was in, but they showed the diagrams and all the scientific names of the uterus, fallopian tubes and whatever else. They did pretty everything expect flat out say -penis goes into vagina- but I mean... we knew. They also went into extensive detail on the risk of pregnancy, the types of protection that exists and all the STDs completely with the painful description of the symptoms and images to scare the **** out of you. And let's not forget AIDs was a death sentence back in the 80's.

We all had to sign a permission slip from our parents, I don't remember a single kid that was left out. But I mean, we went into the stuff that mattered, not into 'how to give blowjobs' or 'how to properly stick it in a girl's (or guy's) butt or anything too graphic.

I mean, that's what porn is for.

[Sumac]

Surprisingly we had some kind of sex-ed in 2nd class of Junior School (2nd out 11). But it was very brief, like "boys have dicks, don't touch it, girls have vaginas". Don't remember much beyond that.

No sex-ed in any other classes whatsoever. Still sex-ed here is a very debated topic here and a lot of parents simply refuse their kids to be educated about anything related to sex, which is bad. It does not help that in the last few years priests and extreme conservatives dominate the country.

[Coola Yagami]

Surprisingly we had some kind of sex-ed in 2nd class of Junior School (2nd out 11). But it was very brief, like "boys have dicks, don't touch it, girls have vaginas". Don't remember much beyond that.

No sex-ed in any other classes whatsoever. Still sex-ed here is a very debated topic here and a lot of parents simply refuse their kids to be educated about anything related to sex, which is bad. It does not help that in the last few years priests and extreme conservatives dominate the country.

So weird cause I came from a Catholic family, and everyone in class had some some sort of church goers, and yet none of them missed sex sed.

[Sumac]

So weird cause I came from a Catholic family, and everyone in class had some some sort of church goers, and yet none of them missed sex sed.
Its not like kids are missing sex eds, they simply don't exist in majority of the schools.

[Mayhem]

Recall how we were talking about how mentally competant people are in positions of power, and that everyone keeps referring to "Sleepy Joe"? Only fair that Trump can't recall two basic facts either...

But Trump’s tactics rebounded when he said Biden threatened to lead the US into “world war two” – and suggested that he, Trump, thought he had beaten Barack Obama for the presidency back in 2016.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/18/trump-biden-age-election-2024

Which at the tone of maintaining balance, the call for cognitive tests for candidancy seem even more pressing to come in...

[Sumac]

Recall how we were talking about how mentally competant people are in positions of power, and that everyone keeps referring to "Sleepy Joe"? Only fair that Trump can't recall two basic facts either...
But did he confused his own children about who is who and falls on every ladder?

Checkmate, democrats!! :lol:

[TheCanadiandrome]

Recall how we were talking about how mentally competant people are in positions of power, and that everyone keeps referring to "Sleepy Joe"? Only fair that Trump can't recall two basic facts either...



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/18/trump-biden-age-election-2024

Which at the tone of maintaining balance, the call for cognitive tests for candidancy seem even more pressing to come in...

Hahaha that’s classic! When I heard about that I just about fell over laughing :lol::lol:

[TurtleManiac]

Recall how we were talking about how mentally competant people are in positions of power, and that everyone keeps referring to "Sleepy Joe"? Only fair that Trump can't recall two basic facts either...



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/18/trump-biden-age-election-2024

Which at the tone of maintaining balance, the call for cognitive tests for candidancy seem even more pressing to come in...

Hahaha that’s classic! When I heard about that I just about fell over laughing :lol::lol:

https://i.imgur.com/vBMgiEM.jpg?1

The world is laughing at U.S. right now.

Trump was right about everything.

[Mayhem]

Mitch fell over again?

[Sumac]

Mitch fell over again?
Nope, its your precious totally-not-senile grandpa.

[TheCanadiandrome]

https://i.imgur.com/vBMgiEM.jpg?1

The world is laughing at U.S. right now.

Trump was right about everything.

God bless America :D:lol::lol:

[IMJ]

https://i.imgur.com/vBMgiEM.jpg?1

The world is laughing at U.S. right now.

Trump was right about everything.

Yeah but..... we defeated the Trump and therefore killed the racism and the.... uhhh... well... we defeated the archetype of the hated white male. SO everything should be fine now.

But if not, no big deal, there is never a shortage of peasants to burn cities and people online to narrate. So... we got this either way.

[Storm Wolf]

Didn't have sex ed until high school. I *think* it was mandatory. No permissions needed that I can recall. We were shown how to properly use birth control and threatened with babies. My baby wouldn't stop crying and I had to leave class so I wouldn't disrupt learning.

I can't help but feel that was some sort of foreshadowing now that I think on it. My firstborn had wicked colic and would cry for HOURS.

In middle school we had a short anatomy lesson. The one where they Separated the boys and girls. Kinda wish they didn't. I know they do fo maturity reasons, but maybe more males would understand women better if they knew how they functioned biologically? For this reason I think basic sex ed and reproductive education should be allowed. I think to many people either Don't know or are to embarrassed to approach that subject with their children and young adults.


Also.....old people fall. We should probably start considering candidates that are younger and have all their faculties. Why do we keep voting in old dudes? Expecting people from back when land costed a nickle and your best riding pony to solve our modern issues seems a bit off.

[Mayhem]

Nope, its your precious totally-not-senile grandpa.
My comment was a joke (whoosh over your head) but pertinent based on the fact I don't see anyone here flagging up their precious Republican leaders having constant senile moments too.

Besides he's not my precious grandpa, I'm not American, and I certainly don't massively rate him as a leader. Just a better option than Trump...

[Sumac]

My comment was a joke (whoosh over your head) but pertinent based on the fact I don't see anyone here flagging up their precious Republican leaders having constant senile moments too.

Besides he's not my precious grandpa, I'm not American, and I certainly don't massively rate him as a leader. Just a better option than Trump...
With people like you it is hard to figure out what is a joke and what is for real.

Didn't have sex ed until high school. I *think* it was mandatory. No permissions needed that I can recall. We were shown how to properly use birth control and threatened with babies. My baby wouldn't stop crying and I had to leave class so I wouldn't disrupt learning.
Que? :o

In middle school we had a short anatomy lesson. The one where they Separated the boys and girls. Kinda wish they didn't. I know they do fo maturity reasons, but maybe more males would understand women better if they knew how they functioned biologically? For this reason I think basic sex ed and reproductive education should be allowed. I think to many people either Don't know or are to embarrassed to approach that subject with their children and young adults.
I think so too.
But somehow people are very embarrassed when it comes to sex and biological functions regarding reproduction. Its annoying. Like, it is very natural and this knowledge can potentially be useful and even life saving, but nope: "I am too embarrassed to talk about periods and stuff, because, reasons...".

Gladly, things are changing slowly in the West, but at some backwards countries...well, not so much.

[Mayhem]

With people like you it is hard to figure out what is a joke and what is for real.
I'm British, satire, irony and dry humour are staples of my DNA, but I will readily admit that can be harder than some humour to convey online. Of course I could tell that was Biden, but posting about Mitch was designed for a response.

Que? :o
I'm presuming (and hoping!) these were toy/robot babies that are programmed on a typical baby sleep/eat cycle (every 2 hours or so). One, to show teenagers what looking after a baby will be like for when they are older and ready for the responsibility. Two, to show teenagers what looking after a baby will be like if they have one now.

Gladly, things are changing slowly in the West, but at some backwards countries...well, not so much.
Like the US. You'd be amazed, although perhaps not too surprised given some of the personal experiences posted here about such things, that sex education in US schools is lacking, skipped or ignored in many places, sometimes due to religious abstinance. Proper sex ed is a significant factor in lowering teen pregnancy, and guess which first world country has the highest rate of teen pregnancy...?!

[Barkworm]

Posting this classic again on the topic of backwards regions.
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[Mayhem]

Sort of back on topic, in another moment of "bears defecating in tree rich environments", Trumps rallies to put himself before the country...

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-urges-government-shutdown-unlikely-bid-defund-his-criminal-prosecutions-2023-09-21/

[Mayhem]

Eyes down for a full (court) house, the Trump civil trial bingo card is in session.

Have to admit, in between all the other news, maybe it wasn’t broadcast very widely (hah so called MSM bias, not there), that I hadn’t seen Trump last week had been found guilty of inflating his worth and his NY certificates revoked. So this will be about how much damages does he have to pay…

[Mayhem]

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1708846630340837588

He says in the above clip that his assets were in fact worth more than he stated and not less, if they are trying to get him on false reporting it’s right there from his own mouth :roll:

Justice Engoron just noted in court that "nobody asked for" a jury trial, which is why he'll be presiding over Trump's $250M civil fraud case without one.
It’s incredibly easy to ask for a jury trial. You just check a box on a form. Hard to believe that Trump understood that his lawyers hadn’t done it when he’s been savaging the judge who is now the factfinder in his huge fraud trial. The competency from him overwhelms me! :lol:

[Sumac]

People cheering politically motivated courts are people who desire to be put to the wall next.

But as usual they don't know it until its too late..."there are no bad methods, only wrong targets", up until YOU, Mayhem, will be put to the wall, than YOU will scream and cry and plea for freedom and laws, but no-one will hear you. Why?

Because, YOU wanted it - trial for enemies of your ideology and a sentence, no mater the cost or logic. Which leads us to the moment, when anyone, deemed "enemy of the state" can eliminated without much of a trial, much less justice.

People like you, Mayhem - are ignorant gnats who don't know history and can't learn from it. YOU ruin future for people, not boomers or anyone else.

[Mayhem]

People cheering politically motivated courts are people who desire to be put to the wall next.
Oh I’m not cheering, I’m just grabbing my popcorn along with a lot of other people and watching as the continual circus moves onto its next act. My only disappointment is that more people of Trump’s ilk, regardless of political leaning or nature, can’t be brought to sanction in the same way. If you’ve broken the law, then the appropriate punitive damages should be levelled. It’s got nothing to do with Trump being the opposite of my supposed ideology, he’s a terrible human being whose committed an awful lot of wrong, and not been held accountable for it until now. He isn’t the only one.

And I suspect I know more about history than yourself… and that those who prevent it from being taught want it to be repeated.

[Vegita-San]

Oh I’m not cheering, I’m just grabbing my popcorn along with a lot of other people and watching as the continual circus moves onto its next act. My only disappointment is that more people of Trump’s ilk, regardless of political leaning or nature, can’t be brought to sanction in the same way. If you’ve broken the law, then the appropriate punitive damages should be levelled. It’s got nothing to do with Trump being the opposite of my supposed ideology, he’s a terrible human being whose committed an awful lot of wrong, and not been held accountable for it until now. He isn’t the only one.

And I suspect I know more about history than yourself… and that those who prevent it from being taught want it to be repeated.

and it's people like this that allowed canada to get as far as it got. with the us next, we know who too blame.

[Mayhem]

and it's people like this that allowed canada to get as far as it got. with the us next, we know who too blame.
Yeah the applause in their parliament had me scratching my head too.

[Sumac]

Oh I’m not cheering, I’m just grabbing my popcorn along with a lot of other people and watching as the continual circus moves onto its next act. My only disappointment is that more people of Trump’s ilk, regardless of political leaning or nature, can’t be brought to sanction in the same way. If you’ve broken the law, then the appropriate punitive damages should be levelled. It’s got nothing to do with Trump being the opposite of my supposed ideology, he’s a terrible human being whose committed an awful lot of wrong, and not been held accountable for it until now. He isn’t the only one.

And I suspect I know more about history than yourself… and that those who prevent it from being taught want it to be repeated.
You do understand that Trump in court, because, current elites want to see him removed from equation? By your logic both Biden and Obama should be in court as well, yet, I see you applauding a political process, without much of a second thought.

As for the history, given your position, I assume you know anything of it only from a book "World for commies and dummies". Or you've just slept on those lessons. Otherwise your supposed "knowledge", of which I doubt there is any, would be incorrigible with your current position.

I am not big fan of Trump as a person and he is a typical corrupted businessman, however, when one party feels so pathetically unsafe, that it literally needs to create a politically motivated process to remove their main opponent, while ignoring crimes of their own side, normal person would start questioning what is going on, based on nothing, but elementary principles of Democracy.
Of which I assume you know just as much as about history.

[Mayhem]

You do understand that Trump in court, because, current elites want to see him removed from equation? By your logic both Biden and Obama should be in court as well, yet, I see you applauding a political process, without much of a second thought.

As for the history, given your position, I assume you know anything of it only from a book "World for commies and dummies". Or you've just slept on those lessons. Otherwise your supposed "knowledge", of which I doubt there is any, would be incorrigible with your current position.

I am not big fan of Trump as a person and he is a typical corrupted businessman, however, when one party feels so pathetically unsafe, that it literally needs to create a politically motivated process to remove their main opponent, while ignoring crimes of their own side, normal person would start questioning what is going on, based on nothing, but elementary principles of Democracy.
Of which I assume you know just as much as about history.
So what has Biden and Obama done outside the role of being President, that would require them to be in court? Trump has done an awful lot not just while being President himself…

Funny, my political leanings have been mid ground at most, conservative usually. Communism as demonstrated by China can be as bad as fascism. Considering I’ve never lived or grown up in a country that’s been communist, I think you’d be in a better position to tell me about how great it was? Or how democratic and fair the current regime in Russia is for anyone who angers or criticises the great man Putin or his beliefs, and his deranged fantasies to bring the Soviet empire back together. You don’t get locked up here or sent to hard labour prison for writing the truth that he can’t accept. I suggest you look inward to your own country before starting to criticise the practices of others.

[TurtleManiac]

I think alot of the nevertrumper types on here with TDS are simply anti-American, they want to see the U.S. fall, for whatever reason, and they think they’re in on it by using Trump as their “punching bag”. It’s the “cool thing to do” to make themselves feel relevant as part of the “greater good”. Trump is pretty much the only guy who can save America from the cesspool of third world invasion it has become since Biden took office and opened the borders. Of course they will cheer on as Trump is being politically persecuted by the corrupt commies of DC. I still ask anyone on here to name one, just one, positive thing that the Biden admin has done for America. That’s right, nothing. It’s slowly becoming a third world communist utopia where violent criminals roam free.

[Barkworm]

So what has Biden and Obama done outside the role of being President, that would require them to be in court? Trump has done an awful lot not just while being President himself…

This is why I stopped posting about politics here altogether. I‘ll discuss anything whatever your political opinion is and I‘m very open-minded (my in-laws are basically right-wingers and we get along fine) but if you deny that Donald Trump is a complete ****ing scumbag, it‘s not worth the time.

[Andrew NDB]

This is why I stopped posting about politics here altogether. I‘ll discuss anything whatever your political opinion is and I‘m very open-minded (my in-laws are basically right-wingers and we get along fine) but if you deny that Donald Trump is a complete ****ing scumbag, it‘s not worth the time.

He's definitely not a good guy. He can be funny, charismatic at times. But he is a loudmouth that loves to rub people the wrong way and, while funny at times, it served to only create even more division than what came out of Obama's second term or at least exacerbate the fires that had already been lit. Also, I don't think he's reelectable. Policy-wise he had been pretty sound, which is what I care about way over personality, though.

A "complete" scumbag, though? No, I wouldn't say that. Maybe in his personal affairs. But those are his personal affairs.

[Mayhem]

I think alot of the nevertrumper types on here with TDS are simply anti-American, they want to see the U.S. fall, for whatever reason, and they think they’re in on it by using Trump as their “punching bag”.
Not the case here, I like most Americans, the people in general are good. It's the Government and other large institutions that get a dimmer view, whoever happens to be in power.

I'll also point you to the fact that violent crime is reducing, people coming into the country is reducing, inflation is reducing, but yes, still higher than pre COVID levels.

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/22/biden-us-immigration-inflation-crime

[Andrew NDB]

I'll also point you to the fact that violent crime is reducing, people coming into the country is reducing, inflation is reducing

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

[Sumac]

This is why I stopped posting about politics here altogether. I‘ll discuss anything whatever your political opinion is and I‘m very open-minded (my in-laws are basically right-wingers and we get along fine) but if you deny that Donald Trump is a complete ****ing scumbag, it‘s not worth the time.
Who denies it here? Maybe you can say something constructive, instead of fighting strawmen?

So what has Biden and Obama done outside the role of being President, that would require them to be in court? Trump has done an awful lot not just while being President himself…
Why do you count only something outside of presidency?
Wouldn't crimes as president take higher priority? Or as long as politician is a DemocRAT it doesn't count?

Funny, my political leanings have been mid ground at most, conservative usually. Communism as demonstrated by China can be as bad as fascism.
Well, at least you get that. Surprisingly for a person who wants to support political process due to his personal sympathies.
Also, "communism is not can be as bad as fascism" it is "always as bad as fascism".

Considering I’ve never lived or grown up in a country that’s been communist, I think you’d be in a better position to tell me about how great it was?
I can tell you how it wasn't great.

Or how democratic and fair the current regime in Russia is for anyone who angers or criticises the great man Putin or his beliefs, and his deranged fantasies to bring the Soviet empire back together. You don’t get locked up here or sent to hard labour prison for writing the truth that he can’t accept. I suggest you look inward to your own country before starting to criticise the practices of others.
Let me explain you something, even though I doubt your mind-on-lefty-kool-aid will be able to comprehend it.

Thanks to my knowledge of Soviet history, as well, as recent Russian history I know how good intentions or "soft" dictatorship transforms into a totalitarian nightmare. And let me tell, it is ONE WAY ROAD. Once this process starts there is no road back, unless its a civil war, revolution or years of political crises.

What I see in US is a disturbing trend, where one party, DemocRATs, is trying to usurp power by any means they see fit. They proclaim their opposition subhumans, fascists, deplorables, even for minor differences in opinion, regardless of what those differences are.

They also use political resources to manipulate population opinions using migrants as blunt tools, for example. They have DIRECTLY instigated riots in 2020 to use it as a weapon against Trump, regardless of how much damage it did to a country and people. Which in itself can be (and in ideal world should be) considered a treason, no less.

All in all, modern US (and by large Western) DemocRATs, remind me of Communists of the beginning of the 20th century - group of unscrupulous people, without principles and convictions who want absolute power regardless how many people will suffer in the process and how many laws they will break.

I can't say, if Republicans would act like this, if their positions would have been swapped and in itself this question is completely irrelevant, since right now we have what we have.

Trump process is just another link in this chain of events. The way its framed and the way it is investigated, hints that it is a purely politically motivated process and nothing else. Trump might be (and most likely is) a dirty businessman, but who in US elites is not? But they are getting away scot free. Fauci, despite his multiple lies got away scot free (for now). Hilarity Clinton got away scot free. Hunter Biden investigation amounted to nothing, but for the lack of evidence. There are proofs that a lot of dirt DemocRATs had on Trump was fabricated with help of Russian agents.

All of this, shows that US, maybe not on a verge of becoming a totalitarian country yet, but it gets to this line.

And why it is important to me? Because, I live in a country with questionable "freedoms". US always was an example for me how to do things "right" in a political sense.

Yes, it is not an ideal country, yes, its political system has a lot of problems. But for all its warts and the like it works. For the last 200+ years with no revolutions, no major upheavals (save for a civil war), no political and transition crises, no transformations of a regime from tyranny to democracy and back again it exists. Something which most countries, much less large and influential ones can not say about their history or political systems.

US had set an example of the country, which not only has stable political system, but also managed to be leader in technological and societal progress.

An example of what well-functioning country should be as opposed to countless dictatorships, monarchies and ineffective bureaucracies of the world.

Which is why I do not want it to go away. Because, then there won't be an example, a hope for other countries and people living in them. There is a reason, after all, why people all over the world are trying to get into US (and Western countries) and no-one runs into Middle East or China.

If this will go away, then what people can hope for? What people like me, who grew in a dictatorship, not to mention current state of affairs, can hope for? What should be an example for us? What WE should hold as a counter point to our politicians who claim that "following great leader" is the only answer for prosperity of the country? That "USSR did everything right", despite facts proving showing complete opposite?

According to people like you, all of this should be stolen away and destroyed, just based on people sympathies and faux-outrage, which plays in hand of people who want power, but not equality or prosperity.

Mind you, in ideal world, I won't be opposed to Trump being judged. If he committed crimes he should pay. But this situation is rather a different one. It is not normal. It is a political power play, where one party tries to eliminate its most powerful (or what they perceive as their most powerful) opponent.

Which reminds of stuff from the recent and not so recent history, which I suspect, you not so aware of, despite your claims.

TL;DR
I suggest you **** a **** with your suggestions.

I'll also point you to the fact that violent crime is reducing, people coming into the country is reducing, inflation is reducing, but yes, still higher than pre COVID levels.

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/22/biden-us-immigration-inflation-crime
Good joke.
Especially from clearly biased source of information. Might as well use Jezebel or whatnot.

[Cowabung-Gal]

I'll also point you to the fact that violent crime is reducing, people coming into the country is reducing, inflation is reducing

Oh, hon, if you actually lived here, you’d be singing a totally different tune…unless of course you were paid by the Biden Administration to lie about how “great” things currently are.

[Vegita-San]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

crime reducing? someone post some videos. inflation reducing? What was once $20 groceries is not close to $70. Illegal immigration reducing? Have you SEEN New York City and others lately?

it's people like mayhem with their head in the sand, and barkworm that will allow communisim and fascism to take over what's left of america.

republicans may not be better, but they ARE the lesser evil in this case. The Democrats ARE trying to turn america into china.

[Sumac]

republicans may not be better, but they ARE the lesser evil in this case. The Democrats ARE trying to turn america into china.
I don't think they are talented enough for that.
They will get late-80s USSR instead.

[Barkworm]

Oh gee. Poked right into the hornets' nest, did I?

[Vegita-San]

americans take america and freedom and liberty seriously. when we see one party and only one party pushing back on this, that raises red flags. right now, everyone in the democratic party is raising multiple red flags, and hiding behind cultural shaming to do it.

[Mayhem]

I see everyone decided to cut off the final part of my original line “but still higher than pre COVID levels” there. The analysis is those things are currently decreasing from previous highs. How hard is that to understand? Might not be obviously visible yet though for reasons… well, see the bit you all decided to truncate :roll:

Why do you count only something outside of presidency?.

Let me explain you something, even though I doubt your mind-on-lefty-kool-aid will be able to comprehend it.

I can't say, if Republicans would act like this, if their positions would have been swapped and in itself this question is completely irrelevant, since right now we have what we have.
That was a long reply, so I’ve had to pick out three bits to reply to.

1) All presidents have made questionable decisions during their terms, Republican and Democrat. Hell, people are still trying to get Bill C on his affairs, and Dubya on the fake WMD invasion of Iraq long after they’ve left office. I made the point simply for you to highlight what Biden and Obama have done before and/or after leaving office that would require them to be charged with a serious crime. As generally you are immune to prosecution while President. Trump? Well, where do you start there on either side of his term…

2) I don’t drink KoolAid or anything blue for that matter.

3) Oh they would, I think the fact a tiny minority of hard line Republicans in Congress almost caused the government to lockdown and default on its debts a few days ago is proof of that.