Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
 

I was able to play this finally! This has to be the best game ever! No other stealth game can stand up against this (points at splinter cell)

if you played this what was your thoughts?




(spoilers)

I think besides snake, ocelot was the coolest, here along he was in league with the patriots, I coundt believe that!

When Volgin was punching snake in the head, I couldnt believe he was still alive after that, and even after the torture he went through in the next seen.

god this was a great game.
I hope that konami would come out with mg1, and mg2 with MGS3 graphics, that would be really cool.

It might be the best Metal Gear game to date gameplay-wise, but I thought the story was lacking. That, and the radio conversations were so long, even I, a lover of a good story, was getting bored of them. I also wasn't a fan of the FPS drop in the game. The older games played at 60fps, and this game was running at 30fps. Not that it took away from the gameplay, but I notice this stuff, and it kind of ruined it for me. Not that it would ruin it for anyone else, though.

Overall, a very nice game. Wouldn't recommend it to everyone, though.

(I'm not usung spoiler tags here because you shouldn't be reading this in here unless you've played it or just don't care about spoilers)

I just finished it in a marathon run of about 12 hours yesterday, actually. And I noticed a lot of frame loss too. But regardless, I was VERY happy with the game and I'm absolutely in love with the Ocelot character now. He was cool as an old man, but he's easily the best part of the game as a young man. I love that weird little gesture he kept doing. Anyways, the gameplay was MUCH more complicated in this one than it ever has been, which made for a deeper experiance. The graphics were also greatly improved, expecially in the faces. The story was a little simpler and subdoed than the past 2 games, but I think that kinda went along with the theme of thew game. In contrast to the gameplay, I think Kojima wanted to express this as a simpler time, when the world wasn't so completely ****ed up like it is now and in 4 years (That's right folks, Metal Gear Solid 1 takes place in 2005!). But yeah, I think he got that across very well and really dsid sort of make you feel like you were in a completely different situation. Not just where you where, but when as well. I also noticed a strong twing of a lot of classic spy movie elements. Not necessarily Bond, cause that's so specific at this point. But I noticed heavy overtione towards that type of thing mixed with thew usual hardcore military sh*t you experiance in the other ones. Especially in the ending. Very cinematic, very reminiscent of that genre and time period. It's easy to forget that this isn't Snake as we know him. Yes, he's genetically the same, but he grew up in a different time, under different circumstances, and that can also go to explain why this one carries some different feelings to it than the first two.

But anyways, the game was fantastic, everything about it. ESPECIALLY Ocelot. I look forward to a sequel in which we see Snake's transistion into becoming Big Boss. Not just in title, but in actions. And hopefuly, they'll go deeper into the relationship between him and Ocelot. I expect (if there is another sequel coming) we have about 3 years until then (considering the period inbetween MGS 1 & 2 and 2 & 3 is, in both cases, three years).

This was the last MGS game that heideo was working on, but I was thinking, this his is last solid game, but I wonder if he'll start up a new series of metal gear. remeber before mgs, there was mg.

He said several times that he wants to do something completely new.

Well, as horrible as it may sound, I wouldn't be suprised if Konami did more Metal Gear games without him. Stranger things have happened.

Funny that you mention it but Konami has already annouced Metal Gear Solid 4.

-=Thud=-

Kojima isn't attached or is in merely a production role, isn't he?

Ive heard that he's just producing it.

Hideo Kojima will be a producer/writer for MGS4.

It also has recently been announced that it will be on the PS3 (with maybe and X-Box port).

I'm a huge fan of the series, but I think that while waiting for the next game, a remake of MG 1 and 2 on the PS2's engine would be fantastic. Add more story where applicable, especially between Big Boss and Frank Jaeger (Grey Fox, the first cybord ninja). That game would rock, tying MGS3 into MG2 and future stories.

I think that the story of MG3 was fantastic.
SPOILERS:

The main fact that I love is the idea of warrior alligience. "The Boss" was a national hero, that turned traitor (so you think for the game). Big Boss then became the national hero, but actually then became a traitor with Outer Heaven, the country based on the values of a soldier. I love how Kojima tied in what The Boss taught Snake into the events that took place later on in the series (MG).

*edit*

Kojima Confirms New Metal Gear Solid March 03, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Kojima has announced that development will begin shortly.

At the Metal Gear Solid launch event in Berlin, Germany, Hideo Kojima confirmed that development will begin soon on a new Metal Gear Solid game.

The new Metal Gear Solid game will be the beginning of a brand new series. Solid Snake will be the game's central character.

The game won't be for the GameCube, though. It will be for an unspecified next-generation console. Kojima will be the executive producer of the new Metal Gear Solid game, and Ken-Ichiro Imaizumi will be a producer.
source: The Magic Box

Well, RE4 on Cube ran at 30FPS. I know a friend who can run PC games like Doom 3 at like damn near 75FPS, and it looks VERY pretty, but RE4's poly count is so freaking high ('bout 26 million), I just drool when staring at it. Anything below 30 is just unacceptable though in my book. Still, I don't see why not running at 60 kills the game though....

*off topic*

I don't know how in the hell they pulled almost 30 million ploygons on Gamecube's pissy little 485Mhz Gekko Processor. That's just freaking nutso.

They didn't pull it on the Gekko. They pulled it on that ATI graphics chip that in that loveable little lunch box.

And, btw, a MGS4 port would be more likely to hit Nintendo's Revoltuion before it hits the new Xbox, seeing as Ninty worked with Konami on The Twin Snakes, and even whored out a second party to make it.

Ah ha, that makes snese. My bad.

I hope they do port it. I'd sure as hell buy it.

Yeah, I do not doubt that their will be a port for the next Nintendo system, especially after twin snakes. But, I was just reporting what I read off some reports.

Frankly, after what I have read about the cell "chip", I'm dead thankful the game will be on the PS3, because the specs look like it will be the best of the Next-Gens, so that will be my first purchase. (Not trying to sound like a fan boy).

Well, here's something to consider. When the specs for the PS2 were released it was the most bezerko thing ever released. Hell, even Saddam Husien imported 200 of them for their chips :lol: . But....the other parts of the system lacked, and in time it showed. In fact, the Dreamcast STILL has better texturing than the PS2. It also has no ability to smooth out rough textures on polygons and a very low ram count.

Sony was the first to release tech specs in this generation, and they're the first to release tech specs for the next generation. Don't count the other guys out quite yet. The Gamecube may be lower powered than the Xbox on paper, but in terms of performance, it kills Xbox. Neither Microsoft or Nintendo have released specs yet for good reason. For all we know they could be holding out to upstage Sony on Press Conference day.

PS3 has the best processor so far, but one of the other two could prove to be the more well rounded system. Remember, a processor can't carry a console by itself. A console is about balancing all of the hardware to work together as effeciently as possible. We won't know who has the best hardware until E3, if even then. Performance tests must be done by the consumers themselves. Spec sheets and cooperate representives lie.

Anyways, enough rambeling. Back to Metal Gear :)

Well, TMB, I can tell that I should never pick a fight with you over video game console specifics :D

What I said was merely speculative of what I have read thus far. So far I've been a sony boy, simply because I prefer the developer following that the company draws. But in terms of performance and developers for the next-gen, we'll all really just have to wait and see who will dubbed "king of games" (Yugioh pun not intended at first).

Also, I find it strange that someone edited my earlier post to add in a story about the topic. I appriciate the help by the mod, but I just don't wish to take credit for work I have not done (or get in trouble for it).

---Taken from PSXextreme, written by Frank Provo

"Kojima also stated that the next game will be the beginning of a new storyline for the Solid Snake character, and that stealth won't be as integral to the gameplay as it has been in the last three Metal Gear Solid games. When asked to elaborate, Kojima would only say that their goal for this game is to give Snake "no place to hide."

Ok, so we have 2 types of fans already in here. I think we need a third...ahem.

YOU ALL F*CKING SUCK! XBOX 2 IS GOING TO KICK ALL YOUR SORRY ASSES AND GROUND IT INTO MUSH! RAAAAWAWR!!!!!!!!!!!!!ELEVENTY111ONEBILLION1!!!!11 1O-11111BBQSAUCE

thank you.

...Perhaps, play less Halo 2?

I only play it for about an hour every other day... :)

Just making sure. On my dorm floor, there is AT ALL TIMES at least 5 guys playing Halo 2 together.... quite frightening.

Anyways... about MGS 3...

Alright, just finished it. The game was awesome although the camera and the controls sucked. The story was a lot simpler than the one of MGS2. Actually a very good thing since the story of MGS got more than... let's say strange towards the end. My favourite character was definitely the Boss, the way she kept kicking Snake's ass and even scared Volgin was extremely cool.

I cant enjoy this game. Im tired of sitting through hours of dialog and watching movies that can last up to 40 minutes *cough*the ending*cough*. Its a great game but Konami focus is on the movie portion I guess. I know I could just skip the movies but you kinda wanna know the story after spending all that time playing. I have to say it's the best to date*Though I still like Twin Snakes better* Im not into stealth games anymore...Im into games that give me arthritis with-in 10 minutes

Yeah, if you don't wanna see a lot of movies the MGS series is not for you.

I am a fan of the entire metal gear franchise.
As far as gameplay,
I agree, the overhead view gets old, and the only thing its good for is for a good view when pressed against walls and looking at enemies around a corner at a distance....
I found myself switching in and out of 1st person view mode waaaay too much, just in order to see whats in front of me....
I like the first person view mode, but it shouldnt be a press to hold feature....
thats too limited, it should switch between 1st and 3rd person mode freely with the tap of a button, so that when you are in 1st person mode you can actually move forward without reverting ack to 3rd person view......
and further more, i like the crouching feature, but i dont like that i cant move while crouching either, that should be changed too... crawling can be initiated a different way so that we can move while crouching.
And I also think that a solid jump button would've recreated some of the levels to be a little more interesting.
The Camo, Backpack, and MedCare should be easier to access during gameplay, just like the items and weapons.
Other than these flaws, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is the best stealth Action game with access to all the weapons you want (except maybe a flamethrower would be cool)....

And as far as Storyline.....
((((SPOILERS))))
I didnt care for how the Cobras explode after they're defeated in the story...
That takes away from the realism....
I know that the Metal Gear Solid series isnt known for being realistic as far as supernatural powers and stuff, but.... somebody should be slapped when when they have an idea to end the game 's story with The Boss's scar slivering off of her onto the ground like a snake, just because they want to be symbolic with that and all the crass and flowers in the field mysteriously changing color.....yeah, it was dramatic but that is definatly senseless expressionism....and speaking of senseless, I could've done without Volgin feeling up Snake, or The Fury's flaming face ghost thing, or the constant going on and on and on with the excessive blah blah and more blah blah...waste of game's memory to put so much bull crap....
Ohkay, now that i got through the nagative part.... I did enjoy the story.... and the fact that Ocelot picked up the revolver because of Big Boss's advice....and later when Ocelot shot Big Boss's eye... that and Volgin beating the everliving crap out of Snake's face was one of the heaviest cutscenes in video game history I was also wondering how the hell he survived......I like how we get to see Big Boss kinda turn sour at the very end.
And I really hope to see a future game , like a re-make of MG1 and MG2:SS combined since they're old nintendo games....
Or maybe we can see another game that takes place after this, So they can get into detail about forming Fox-Hound and his involvement with Grey Fox before 'Outer Heaven.'

Anyway, despite the negative things i've said i will always be a fan of the Metal Gear franchise...(believe me, i have a lot more bad i can say about MGS2.)
And Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater will be the best of it's kind untill we see yet another Metal Gear.

I've been going off and on with this game as far as difficulties go for a good while now. The game truly is wonderful. It's different from the other games, but I actually found that appealing.

I bought this game for my husband for Christmas, and despite devouring the last MGS in one day, I can't get him to play the game for love or money. I've actually kicked him off his computer, turned the playstation on, shoved the controller in his right hand, a beer in his left and locked the door behind me.

Ten minutes later, he's watching curling on Eurosport.

The controlls just piss him the hell off.

I hope you're husband knows that you're the best wife a man could wish for. :cry:

Marry me....

Yeah, I believe the straight over-head camera angle was difficult to manage with. For a while I was collecting the Kerotans, but DMC3 has taken away my time. Plus college...


Edit, sorry didn't see how long the previous post was idle for. Didn't mean to pick up a dead topic, My bad.

*Some Spoilers*Sadly, I liked this game more than the first two. I hate thwhole 007 rip off, being the main bad guy of the first two games, knowing his fate (which is why I don't like the new Star wars movies, due to knowing the main characters fate anyway), most of the game is made up of jungle (even though the other games were mostly made up of their main thing, at least Big Shell had girly posters all over the place, more so than MGS3 had, and pathetic bad guys (only liked Ocelot and Volgin, but prefer Liquid, Dead Cell, and Fox Hound). Why I like this game the best, I'll never know...But I do prefer the Codec characters here than the others. Zero, Para, Seigt, those are the most hillarious convo's of all time.

I don't really get the compliants about there being too many movies since you can always skip right to the gameplay in seconds with the tap of a button. I apriciated that there were less mandatory codec calls than in MGS2.

Oh, and I was surprised they were able to explain the whole "Liquid takes over Ocelot's body" within the frameworks of a prequel.

They did?! How? :-?

What? How did they explain Liquid? He was a GREAT villain, now he's reduced to an old mans alter ego...how did they explain that?

For that matter, I always heard (GameFAQS guides) Ocelot was Sorrow and Boss's son, but I never heard mention of that in the actual game.

When you're in the cave, call Eva. She will tell you that Ocelot is only 19, and was pushed to the top ranks because he was the "son of some legendary soldier". And The Boss (forgot where it states this) gave birth on D. Day. They never tell you flat out that he's her kid...

But, there is no reference to the Sorrow except that he was her partner and good friend/romantic interest. Makes sense if he was Ocelot's pop, but there is still some mystery there.

Whoa, interesting. Makes sense though.

Which cave? Guessing the one after the Ocelot fight, or behind the waterfall?

Its in the waterfall right after you meet up with Eva. Im pretty sure if you call her right away, or at the back of the cave the convo will happen. That's what happened for me at least...

Okay so my friend lent it to me in exchange for Devil May Cry 3. I decided Hell I beat the others why not this one? I'll say its different. Still too many movies for my taste but it's better then long drawn out radio convos which there arent many so it's good. Snake is really cool in this game. I like the who style of it and all so once I beat it Ill post more of my opinions.
THese graphics, though impressive, still have rough edges and things still look kinda blocky which doesnt matter but I dont see how it's the best looking PS2 game. Graphics dont mean anything to me but yeah....WOW Revolver looks uhhh really gay o_O He looks like a girl or an asain o_O Either way I find it funny how in the first game he doesnt know who Snake is or remembers Snake fromt his one! Plotholessss

Edit: Wow haha I shot Revolver in the head after Knocking him out and they yelled at me and told me I cant do that or it will create a Time Paradox. Cleaver

MGS2 explains everything.

I beat that game 2 years ago o_O I totally forgot most of the story anyone wanna summarize it for me? All I remember is the whole thing was just a virtual reality simulation to get Jack, a clone of Snake?, to be able to act just like Snake and such.

Anyways I just beat "The Pain" I like this game alot actually my only grip, which is a huge one, is the horrible camera angles but other then that it's really cool. I like all the new weapons and how you dont really have to stealth about though getting spotted means getting shot by off screen enemies O_O