Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

[Raven]

I was able to play this finally! This has to be the best game ever! No other stealth game can stand up against this (points at splinter cell)

if you played this what was your thoughts?




(spoilers)

I think besides snake, ocelot was the coolest, here along he was in league with the patriots, I coundt believe that!

When Volgin was punching snake in the head, I couldnt believe he was still alive after that, and even after the torture he went through in the next seen.

god this was a great game.
I hope that konami would come out with mg1, and mg2 with MGS3 graphics, that would be really cool.

[愛]

It might be the best Metal Gear game to date gameplay-wise, but I thought the story was lacking. That, and the radio conversations were so long, even I, a lover of a good story, was getting bored of them. I also wasn't a fan of the FPS drop in the game. The older games played at 60fps, and this game was running at 30fps. Not that it took away from the gameplay, but I notice this stuff, and it kind of ruined it for me. Not that it would ruin it for anyone else, though.

Overall, a very nice game. Wouldn't recommend it to everyone, though.

[Dr. Doom]

(I'm not usung spoiler tags here because you shouldn't be reading this in here unless you've played it or just don't care about spoilers)

I just finished it in a marathon run of about 12 hours yesterday, actually. And I noticed a lot of frame loss too. But regardless, I was VERY happy with the game and I'm absolutely in love with the Ocelot character now. He was cool as an old man, but he's easily the best part of the game as a young man. I love that weird little gesture he kept doing. Anyways, the gameplay was MUCH more complicated in this one than it ever has been, which made for a deeper experiance. The graphics were also greatly improved, expecially in the faces. The story was a little simpler and subdoed than the past 2 games, but I think that kinda went along with the theme of thew game. In contrast to the gameplay, I think Kojima wanted to express this as a simpler time, when the world wasn't so completely ****ed up like it is now and in 4 years (That's right folks, Metal Gear Solid 1 takes place in 2005!). But yeah, I think he got that across very well and really dsid sort of make you feel like you were in a completely different situation. Not just where you where, but when as well. I also noticed a strong twing of a lot of classic spy movie elements. Not necessarily Bond, cause that's so specific at this point. But I noticed heavy overtione towards that type of thing mixed with thew usual hardcore military sh*t you experiance in the other ones. Especially in the ending. Very cinematic, very reminiscent of that genre and time period. It's easy to forget that this isn't Snake as we know him. Yes, he's genetically the same, but he grew up in a different time, under different circumstances, and that can also go to explain why this one carries some different feelings to it than the first two.

But anyways, the game was fantastic, everything about it. ESPECIALLY Ocelot. I look forward to a sequel in which we see Snake's transistion into becoming Big Boss. Not just in title, but in actions. And hopefuly, they'll go deeper into the relationship between him and Ocelot. I expect (if there is another sequel coming) we have about 3 years until then (considering the period inbetween MGS 1 & 2 and 2 & 3 is, in both cases, three years).

[Raven]

This was the last MGS game that heideo was working on, but I was thinking, this his is last solid game, but I wonder if he'll start up a new series of metal gear. remeber before mgs, there was mg.

[Barkworm]

He said several times that he wants to do something completely new.

[Dr. Doom]

Well, as horrible as it may sound, I wouldn't be suprised if Konami did more Metal Gear games without him. Stranger things have happened.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Well, as horrible as it may sound, I wouldn't be suprised if Konami did more Metal Gear games without him. Stranger things have happened.

Funny that you mention it but Konami has already annouced Metal Gear Solid 4.

[Dr. Doom]

-=Thud=-

Kojima isn't attached or is in merely a production role, isn't he?

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

-=Thud=-

Kojima isn't attached or is in merely a production role, isn't he?

Ive heard that he's just producing it.

[PiffDaddy]

Hideo Kojima will be a producer/writer for MGS4.

It also has recently been announced that it will be on the PS3 (with maybe and X-Box port).

I'm a huge fan of the series, but I think that while waiting for the next game, a remake of MG 1 and 2 on the PS2's engine would be fantastic. Add more story where applicable, especially between Big Boss and Frank Jaeger (Grey Fox, the first cybord ninja). That game would rock, tying MGS3 into MG2 and future stories.

I think that the story of MG3 was fantastic.
SPOILERS:

The main fact that I love is the idea of warrior alligience. "The Boss" was a national hero, that turned traitor (so you think for the game). Big Boss then became the national hero, but actually then became a traitor with Outer Heaven, the country based on the values of a soldier. I love how Kojima tied in what The Boss taught Snake into the events that took place later on in the series (MG).

*edit*

Kojima Confirms New Metal Gear Solid March 03, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Kojima has announced that development will begin shortly.

At the Metal Gear Solid launch event in Berlin, Germany, Hideo Kojima confirmed that development will begin soon on a new Metal Gear Solid game.

The new Metal Gear Solid game will be the beginning of a brand new series. Solid Snake will be the game's central character.

The game won't be for the GameCube, though. It will be for an unspecified next-generation console. Kojima will be the executive producer of the new Metal Gear Solid game, and Ken-Ichiro Imaizumi will be a producer.
source: The Magic Box

[ThirdMarioBro]

Originally Posted by Ai Takahashi

It might be the best Metal Gear game to date gameplay-wise, but I thought the story was lacking. That, and the radio conversations were so long, even I, a lover of a good story, was getting bored of them. I also wasn't a fan of the FPS drop in the game. The older games played at 60fps, and this game was running at 30fps. Not that it took away from the gameplay, but I notice this stuff, and it kind of ruined it for me. Not that it would ruin it for anyone else, though.

Well, RE4 on Cube ran at 30FPS. I know a friend who can run PC games like Doom 3 at like damn near 75FPS, and it looks VERY pretty, but RE4's poly count is so freaking high ('bout 26 million), I just drool when staring at it. Anything below 30 is just unacceptable though in my book. Still, I don't see why not running at 60 kills the game though....

*off topic*

I don't know how in the hell they pulled almost 30 million ploygons on Gamecube's pissy little 485Mhz Gekko Processor. That's just freaking nutso.

[Kid Icarus]

They didn't pull it on the Gekko. They pulled it on that ATI graphics chip that in that loveable little lunch box.

And, btw, a MGS4 port would be more likely to hit Nintendo's Revoltuion before it hits the new Xbox, seeing as Ninty worked with Konami on The Twin Snakes, and even whored out a second party to make it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Originally Posted by Gwgtrunks

They didn't pull it on the Gekko. They pulled it on that ATI graphics chip that in that loveable little lunch box.

And, btw, a MGS4 port would be more likely to hit Nintendo's Revoltuion before it hits the new Xbox, seeing as Ninty worked with Konami on The Twin Snakes, and even whored out a second party to make it.

Ah ha, that makes snese. My bad.

I hope they do port it. I'd sure as hell buy it.

[PiffDaddy]

Yeah, I do not doubt that their will be a port for the next Nintendo system, especially after twin snakes. But, I was just reporting what I read off some reports.

Frankly, after what I have read about the cell "chip", I'm dead thankful the game will be on the PS3, because the specs look like it will be the best of the Next-Gens, so that will be my first purchase. (Not trying to sound like a fan boy).

[ThirdMarioBro]

Originally Posted by PiffDaddy

Yeah, I do not doubt that their will be a port for the next Nintendo system, especially after twin snakes. But, I was just reporting what I read off some reports.

Frankly, after what I have read about the cell "chip", I'm dead thankful the game will be on the PS3, because the specs look like it will be the best of the Next-Gens, so that will be my first purchase. (Not trying to sound like a fan boy).

Well, here's something to consider. When the specs for the PS2 were released it was the most bezerko thing ever released. Hell, even Saddam Husien imported 200 of them for their chips . But....the other parts of the system lacked, and in time it showed. In fact, the Dreamcast STILL has better texturing than the PS2. It also has no ability to smooth out rough textures on polygons and a very low ram count.

Sony was the first to release tech specs in this generation, and they're the first to release tech specs for the next generation. Don't count the other guys out quite yet. The Gamecube may be lower powered than the Xbox on paper, but in terms of performance, it kills Xbox. Neither Microsoft or Nintendo have released specs yet for good reason. For all we know they could be holding out to upstage Sony on Press Conference day.

PS3 has the best processor so far, but one of the other two could prove to be the more well rounded system. Remember, a processor can't carry a console by itself. A console is about balancing all of the hardware to work together as effeciently as possible. We won't know who has the best hardware until E3, if even then. Performance tests must be done by the consumers themselves. Spec sheets and cooperate representives lie.

Anyways, enough rambeling. Back to Metal Gear

[PiffDaddy]

Well, TMB, I can tell that I should never pick a fight with you over video game console specifics

What I said was merely speculative of what I have read thus far. So far I've been a sony boy, simply because I prefer the developer following that the company draws. But in terms of performance and developers for the next-gen, we'll all really just have to wait and see who will dubbed "king of games" (Yugioh pun not intended at first).

Also, I find it strange that someone edited my earlier post to add in a story about the topic. I appriciate the help by the mod, but I just don't wish to take credit for work I have not done (or get in trouble for it).

---Taken from PSXextreme, written by Frank Provo

"Kojima also stated that the next game will be the beginning of a new storyline for the Solid Snake character, and that stealth won't be as integral to the gameplay as it has been in the last three Metal Gear Solid games. When asked to elaborate, Kojima would only say that their goal for this game is to give Snake "no place to hide."

[Peanut]

Ok, so we have 2 types of fans already in here. I think we need a third...ahem.

YOU ALL F*CKING SUCK! XBOX 2 IS GOING TO KICK ALL YOUR SORRY ASSES AND GROUND IT INTO MUSH! RAAAAWAWR!!!!!!!!!!!!!ELEVENTY111ONEBILLION1!!!!11 1O-11111BBQSAUCE

thank you.

[PiffDaddy]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Ok, so we have 2 types of fans already in here. I think we need a third...ahem.

YOU ALL F*CKING SUCK! XBOX 2 IS GOING TO KICK ALL YOUR SORRY ASSES AND GROUND IT INTO MUSH! RAAAAWAWR!!!!!!!!!!!!!ELEVENTY111ONEBILLION1!!!!11 1O-11111BBQSAUCE

thank you.

...Perhaps, play less Halo 2?

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by PiffDaddy

...Perhaps, play less Halo 2?

I only play it for about an hour every other day...

[PiffDaddy]

Just making sure. On my dorm floor, there is AT ALL TIMES at least 5 guys playing Halo 2 together.... quite frightening.

Anyways... about MGS 3...