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Spitfire 08-15-2005 01:27 AM

CDs That Disappointed You
 
We all have favorite bands and I'm sure all the bands we listen to have had some bad albums that we didn't like. Or didn't get what we expected out of.
Here are mine

In Flames - Reroute To Remain
I expected a decent album here. I read the reviews and after hearing Clayman*The studio album before this one* I was ready for another good In Flames release. But no...the whole album sucked. It's not like they slowly turned into some Korn rip off band*I hate Korn by the way*. It happened all in one album. And I hate it.

Cradle Of Filth - Nymphetamine
This album was boring. It hardly has any worth while songs on it. Damnation And A Day wasn't that good either so I guess I wasn't as dissappointed with it. But I heard the title track and expected a better album.

Metallica - The Black Album
What the hell was this? I didn't even regonize it as Metallica until the guy on the radio said it was. The guitar sounded like crap and the vocals we're just awful. So lame, why did Cliff have to die?

Slayer - God Hates Us All
Okay so I hear Bloodline and I think "Hey Slayer got good again" but then I hear the album and it sounds like their totally out of ideas.

What are yours?

That Matt Guy 08-15-2005 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx
Metallica - The Black Album
What the hell was this? I didn't even regonize it as Metallica until the guy on the radio said it was. The guitar sounded like crap and the vocals we're just awful. So lame, why did Cliff have to die?

I enjoyed the black album somewhat, of course it is nothing compared to say Kill Em' All or Master of Puppets. I was more upset with Metallica's bloody ejaculate fests "Load" and subsequent "Reload"; honestly Load was so horrible I threw the CD in the trash. Reload at least had Fuel on it, which is the only song on that entire album that is worth listening to.

Barkworm 08-15-2005 02:06 AM

I love pretty much everything from Metallica...
Anyway, I was really disappointed with Pearl Jam's "Binaural". That album was just boring.

Raphael29 08-15-2005 05:20 AM

Metallica's St. Anger, that was just awful, all it sounded like to me was steel drum solos and random screaming.

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Metallica - The Black Album
What the hell was this? I didn't even regonize it as Metallica until the guy on the radio said it was. The guitar sounded like crap and the vocals we're just awful. So lame, why did Cliff have to die?
Gonna have to completely disagree, Enter Sandman is one of their best songs and while nothing can compare to Master of Puppets or Ride the Lightning to me it's still a great album.

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Originally Posted by Matthew138
honestly Load was so horrible I threw the CD in the trash.

I liked Load, I don't know why everyone bashes it so much while it is different and isn't as metal as the other ones, it's still good.

Anarky 08-15-2005 09:29 AM

Hmmm, I remember a band from back in the day. Papa Roach. When I was like 13 "Last resort" was a great song and the hidden track on "infest" is great. Infact, "Infest" is a good album, allthough I never really listen to it anymore.

Then came "lovehatetragedy", which was halfway hearable. Too many slow songs and it just didn't feel right anymore.

And the newest album "Getting away with murder" is, aside from one track, a total waste of CDs.

Cerpin Taxt 08-15-2005 10:44 AM

I loved the Black Album. I think every album after it sucked...hard.

As for cds that disappointed me?

The Dandy Warhols - Welcome to the Monkey House
It was too poppy. The old Dandy Warhols albums had somewhat sloppy and unorganized lyrics and riffs, but it all somehow fit together and sounded awesome on each record. They ditched this sound and went for a lighter approach to everything.

Billy Corgan - TheFutureEmbrace
Billy Corgan is like a god to me. However, his solo cd sucked. It was industrial emo crap (two things that should not be combined), and didn't feature any amazing guitar that he was known for in the Pumpkins and such. I mean, when buying this, you shouldn't expect a Smashing Pumpkins album, but you also shouldn't expect this crap.

Marilyn Manson - The Golden Age of Grotesque
Too much use of the drum machine. The guitar in each song sucked. The lyrics were stupid as hell (everything made reference to 30's and 40's Germany. I don't have anything against Germany, but it makes for a ****** concept album.) Tim Skold is not the genius that Manson claims him to be (take that, KMFDM fans!). The tour sucked, too.


System of a Down -Mezmerize

It didn't have the same sound or feeling that the other three records had. It was a change in style for the band, and it wasn't really good. To top it off, it was being released as a two cd released one at a time, and this one is about 30-40 minutes long. Rip off.


cKy - An Answer Can Be Found

Too bass oriented. Nothing like their old records. It's like my least favorite songs from "Infiltrate.Destroy.Rebuild." put onto a record and somewhat worsened through the process. Bad description, but...meh

Weezer - Make Believe
I've loved pretty much everything Rick Rubin has touched (except for Mezmerize and a few other records), but he totally screwed up Weezer. Not that Maladroit was amazing or anything, but Weezer has now turned into even more of a stereotypical emo band with this.

That's all I can think of right now.

Brodie 08-15-2005 10:51 AM

I was kind of disapointed with Gorillaz- Demon Dayz. I love the Gorillaz, but it seemed like just mindless beats, and borderline techno.

Mr. Stay Puft 08-15-2005 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by President Dead
System of a Down -Mezmerize[/B]
It didn't have the same sound or feeling that the other three records had. It was a change in style for the band, and it wasn't really good. To top it off, it was being released as a two cd released one at a time, and this one is about 30-40 minutes long. Rip off.

I love the new System of a Down. Sure, it's different, but that's why I love it.

My disappointing albums:

Finch - Say Hello to Sunshine
The title isn't the only thing that sucked about this album. None of the songs stand out. They don't grab your attention like their previous albums, Falling into Place and What it is to Burn

The Used - In Love and Death
Waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too poppy. Avoid this album at all costs.

Funeral for a Friend - Hours
One of my favorite things about this band was the way they layered the drummer's metacore-style screaming over the singers melodic vocals. Sadly, they did away with this on the new album. At least they kept the 'Iron Maiden gone punk' style guitar riffs.

Incubus - anything after SCIENCE
SCIENCE was an amazing album. Everything after was nothing but radio-friendly crap. Especially Morning View

Any Staind album after Break the Cycle
Because "It's Been Awhile" and "Outside" were such big hits, they decided to become a bunch of p*ssies and make everything sound like a Three Doors Down song. Give me back my "Mudshovel" and "Can't Believe", you sellouts!!

Cerpin Taxt 08-15-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeys_in_tha_hizouse
Incubus - anything after SCIENCE
SCIENCE was an amazing album. Everything after was nothing but radio-friendly crap. Especially Morning View

I disagree. Morning View (in my opinion) was an awesome CD. A Crow Left Of The Murder was pretty good (though "Talk Shows On Mute" pisses me off) as well. As a friend who's obsessed with Incubus keeps telling me, their style changes with each record. And, again in my opinion, it aways has been for the better.

The only Incubus album I really don't like is Fungus Amongus, which is their first album.

Mr. Stay Puft 08-15-2005 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by President Dead
I disagree. Morning View (in my opinion) was an awesome CD. A Crow Left Of The Murder was pretty good (though "Talk Shows On Mute" pisses me off) as well. As a friend who's obsessed with Incubus keeps telling me, their style changes with each record. And, again in my opinion, it aways has been for the better.

The only Incubus album I really don't like is Fungus Amongus, which is their first album.

I just really liked the whole funk/rock/metal thing they had going with the early albums. Make Yourself wasn't bad, but Morning View, to me, just screams "Radio-friendly," and "Let's sell out!" I do like the song "Circles" off that album, though.

Cerpin Taxt 08-15-2005 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeys_in_tha_hizouse
I just really liked the whole funk/rock/metal thing they had going with the early albums. Make Yourself wasn't bad, but Morning View, to me, just screams "Radio-friendly," and "Let's sell out!" I do like the song "Circles" off that album, though.

Radio friendly? Let's sell out?

Nobody's done that better than the bands you mentioned. Not an insult or an opinion, but a fact. It's in like a book or something.

Morning View was supposed to be a much more mellow record. It was recorded in a mansion right on the water, and they wrote songs reflecting the atmosphere. That's where the overall tone for the album comes from, not from pressure from the record label or the idea of, "Hey, if we metaphorically take it in the face and make a record the masses would enjoy instead of us expressing our talent, we would make a lot of money!"

Mr. Stay Puft 08-15-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by President Dead
Radio friendly? Let's sell out?

Nobody's done that better than the bands you mentioned. Not an insult or an opinion, but a fact. It's in like a book or something.

Morning View was supposed to be a much more mellow record. It was recorded in a mansion right on the water, and they wrote songs reflecting the atmosphere. That's where the overall tone for the album comes from, not from pressure from the record label or the idea of, "Hey, if we metaphorically take it in the face and make a record the masses would enjoy instead of us expressing our talent, we would make a lot of money!"

True. The only band I can think of that has never really disappointed me would be the Deftones. Can't wait for their next one.

I pretty much feel the same way about Terry Date as you do about Rick Rubin. Everything he touches is usually good (SCIENCE, all 4 Deftones albums, Staind's Dysfunction), but he kinda screwed up on FFAF. "GGGarth" Richardson is a very good producer, as well.

Spitfire 08-15-2005 01:41 PM

I don't like The Black Album because it marks the end of Metallica. They were so mainstream when it came out. And it lead them to make even worse albums. It just didn't sound like Metallica and it was hardly metal. And for some horrible reason most people, ones who just heard about Metallica on the radio, thought The Black Album was their first album <_< Bothered the Hell out of me. But all bands have to end somewhere, they just had an early end...

Iron Maiden were great, their last good album was Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son. Then No Prayer For The Dying...and Fear Of The Dark...and many more came out. Some of them had one or two good songs but most of them were horrible to listen to. The X Factor came out in '95 and they had a new singer namer Blaze. He just plain sucked. I hated his regin was the singer <_< But Finially in the year 2000 Maiden came back with a kick ass album! Brave New World. And then they came out with Dance Of Death which was also very kick ass! And when I saw them on tour last they said their going to make one more! I can't wait ^^

raphael_is_cool 08-15-2005 03:06 PM

1039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours - Green Day
After hearing Kerplunk I figured some earlier Green Day might be alright. But this just plain sucks, it's simple pop punk without an ounce of energy to it either.

Warning - Green Day

No, just no.

Before Everything and After - MxPx

I was anticipating this album for a while. It was alright but nothing spectacular. Thank God we now have Panic.

Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters
My friend said it was better than The Colour and the Shape. My friend does however have a lot of wrong opinions. While not necessarily bad, thanks to the hype it became a disappointment.

Borders and Boundaries - Less Than Jake
Couple of alright tracks, other than that it is just bad. The production is a mess, just a bunch of fuzz. Roger was given way too many lead vocals on terrible tracks that sound ad hoc, in a bad way.

Live From Camp X-Ray - Rocket From The Crypt
Some great tracks, but not enough variety and it is far too short

Any albums after 'Ixnay' - The Offspring
Again, some okay tracks and a lot of variety but generally average overall.

Mr. Stay Puft 08-15-2005 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by raphael_is_cool
1039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours - Green Day
After hearing Kerplunk I figured some earlier Green Day might be alright. But this just plain sucks, it's simple pop punk without an ounce of energy to it either.

Warning - Green Day

No, just no.

Before Everything and After - MxPx

I was anticipating this album for a while. It was alright but nothing spectacular. Thank God we now have Panic.

Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters
My friend said it was better than The Colour and the Shape. My friend does however have a lot of wrong opinions. While not necessarily bad, thanks to the hype it became a disappointment.

Borders and Boundaries - Less Than Jake
Couple of alright tracks, other than that it is just bad. The production is a mess, just a bunch of fuzz. Roger was given way too many lead vocals on terrible tracks that sound ad hoc, in a bad way.

Live From Camp X-Ray - Rocket From The Crypt
Some great tracks, but not enough variety and it is far too short

Any albums after 'Ixnay' - The Offspring
Again, some okay tracks and a lot of variety but generally average overall.

I pretty much agree with everything you said, though Americana wasn't a bad album. I prefer Smash myself.

Jed 08-16-2005 06:33 AM

Foo Fighters' first album is one of my favorite albums, and recently I can't stop listning to Binaural by Pearl Jam.

Ones that have disappointed me are

NoFX - Maximum Rock n Roll
I'd probably like it now, and I have it on mp3 somewhere, but when I got it years ago I just thought it was totally unlistenable.

Me First And The Gimme Gimmes - Ruin Johnny's Bar Mitzvah
I was really looking forward to this live Gimmes album but it's just.... not very good. The songs are poor and I know Gimmes are supposed to be shoddy live but this was just too shoddy!

REM - Around The Sun
Save for Leaving New York and Electron Blue I just don't like the album.

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Red Hot Chili Peppers
I love Freaky Styley, Uplift Mofo and Mother's Milk so I thought I'd love this too. I bought it about 5 years after the rest and it's just too tame, but I do love True Men Don't Kill Coyotes.

That's all I can think of right now, aside from the Punk-O-Rama CDs becoming incresingly worse.

Cerpin Taxt 08-16-2005 06:46 AM

Um...Foo Fighters came out before The Colour and the Shape. It was the debut album. I thought it was awesome, and I thought "Monkey Wrench" was a crappy single. The new album sucks, though. And I do miss Pat Smear oh so much...

As for Green Day: They pretty much sucked from Warning on. Nimrod was...meh. Warning was a load of crap. American Idiot is too pop/emo for me to stand. They've sold out and have done it in a craptastic way.

I do, however, like Green Day's old stuff on the (now failing) Lookout! Records label. If they didn't succeed and build a name for themselves, Lookout! would never have done the same and come out with awesome artists like Ted Leo/RX. Not really relevant, but whatever.

The Stryker 08-17-2005 10:28 PM

50 Cent: The Massacre

Alright i was closet fan of 50, his debut album "Get rich or die tryin" was a great album among the rap community and boasted catchy beats and lyrics that were truly from a down on his luck MC with no where to go but up.

But that was then, The massacre just was bad on every level, no catchy beats and lyrics that just sound like every other crappy rapper out there.

The Album should've been called 50 Cent: I know how to have sex, Really really really, Wanna hear me talk about it?

Man..that was 16 bucks i'll never get back.

Cerpin Taxt 08-17-2005 10:33 PM

That reminds me. Over the course of my life, I've cut myself by accident with a sharp object about 4 times. Do you think I can make a rap career out of it by bragging about it?

Oh, and add Sing the Sorrow and The Art of Drowning by AFI to the list. They went soft. They used to be an awesome punk band. Stupid Davey Havok.

The Stryker 08-17-2005 10:34 PM

Fifty was good in the first album and really talked about the troubles in NY and crap like that and it made sense and told a story....


I guess the money got to his Yankee hat

Cerpin Taxt 08-17-2005 10:41 PM

Well, there's a movie and video game coming out about him. I wonder if it went to his head. Hmm...

And people! New York isn't that scary of a place! I lived there for a little over 18 years. I only got mugged once. However, ever since I got a sweet knife, it never happened again (I never used the knife, never had to, and if I ever did, I would probobly do something stupid, screw up, and stab myself by accident).

But I don't see any troubles. He sold crack. Statistics show that selling crack is a dangerous business. When your a crack dealer, people want both your money and your crack.

$10 bucks said he secretly went to private school in upscale Jersey (if there is such a place). God, I hate 50 Cent.

The Stryker 08-17-2005 10:43 PM

Its a different world for some people...

What am i doing? noone understands

Cerpin Taxt 08-17-2005 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker
Its a different world for some people...

It's a known fact that it's not the best idea to sell crack in certain parts of the Bronx. You might get shot. You might get shot nine times. That could either be a good thing or a bad thing. People get their kicks in odd ways.

However, if you sell crack in Riverdale, I think people would laugh at you.

raphael_is_cool 08-19-2005 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by President Dead
As for Green Day: They pretty much sucked from Warning on.

Warning onwards only includes the last album and Warning itself.

There are 4 decent Green Day albums. Kerplunk, Insomniac, Nimrod and Dookie.

To the list for me:

Pinkerton - Weezer

It's not a bad album. But I'm always hearing people say how Weezer used to be so great (Blue album, hell yeah) and that the Green album and Maladroit suck (I disagree). Pinkerton has some great tracks, but I wasn't too impressed overall. I can't honestly say Pinkerton is miles better than Green or Maladroit or anywhere near as good as Blue.

Also, how can you say you dislike Beverly Hills but like El Scorcho?

verminator_x 09-08-2005 10:57 AM

david bowies - tin machine
oasis - since 1995 they have just realesed ****.

the only thing they do now days is to complain on wich artist that sucks or just throwing **** out to other british rock bands.

they should let noel begin writing good pop rock songs again, not call every one a wanker or ****** becouse he dont like their music.

verminator_x 11-19-2005 06:45 PM

a perfect circle with emotive, the cover off imagine was just brutal.

i love maynard and i like some of apc albums, but dont make any more cover albums.

Cerpin Taxt 11-19-2005 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by verminator_x
a perfect circle with emotive, the cover off imagine was just brutal.

i love maynard and i like some of apc albums, but dont make any more cover albums.

Agreed. From what I heard, eMOTIVe was just to get out of their current record contract.

Mobius One 01-18-2006 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie
I was kind of disapointed with Gorillaz- Demon Dayz. I love the Gorillaz, but it seemed like just mindless beats, and borderline techno.


Oh man, I really love that album. And while I really loved the first one "Gorillaz", this one was even better, and seemed to "flow" a lot better.

Kid Icarus 01-22-2006 01:39 AM

Oooh boy, here we go.

Shonen Knife - 712. Pretty Little Baka Guy, Yama no-Attchan, and Burning farm all got reissues with this one... figured since the other there were great this one would be too... wrong. One good song, and it's a cover of a John and Yoko (The Luck of the Irish... funny that I bought the CD on st. patties day too).

Seether - anything after Disclaimer. Get off your lazy asses and give us a FULL new album. You're a ****ing sludge punk band from south africa... surely you can do better then remixing your first hits for EVERY release?

Buzz***** - everything. I kept hearing how great these guys were, and I'm totally unimpressed. Black Flag owns them left and right.

Sonic Youth - Nurse. *yawn*. Couple decent tracks, but the rest is ****. I'll take Goo, please.

there's more, but it's late. and i'm lazy.

ThirdMarioBro 01-30-2006 09:45 PM

You see, I don't buy albums that disappoint me. I download them first and see if it is something I like. If so, I will march myself out and buy it promptly. If it sucks....well, I delete it and *poof* $19 saved.

Mobius One 03-06-2006 02:26 PM

Seems like a good way to save money to me!

ThirdMarioBro 03-06-2006 03:52 PM

Yeah, but Sony dosen't like it. They'd rather me go out, buy it, and then see it sucks. Nuh-uh. I like my way better. Try before you buy.

KROW 03-06-2006 09:14 PM

I never thought I'd regret getting a CD, but Advance and Vanguish by 3 Inches of Blood was horrible. The music is good, and I was really getting into the first track. But then the lead singer chimed in and he sounded like his testicles were being attacked by a camel spider.

I'm not a fan of that screaming crap. I can take a few shouts and hollers every now and then (long ones, even), but constant screeching is not my cup of metal.

Spitfire 03-06-2006 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW
I'm not a fan of that screaming crap. I can take a few shouts and hollers every now and then (long ones, even), but constant screeching is not my cup of metal.

Lol that is metal now. I prefere growling, screeching is Amercia's style and it's so awful...

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a perfect circle with emotive, the cover off imagine was just brutal.
A Perfect Circle and brutal do not go togther in the same sentence...

KROW 03-06-2006 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx
Lol that is metal now. I prefere growling, screeching is Amercia's style and it's so awful...

I'm beginning to realize that. Ick. At least with growling you can sing along. I'll still try new bands, though, in hopes that the band didn't recruit a banshee to be their frontman.

Spitfire 03-06-2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW
I'm beginning to realize that. Ick. At least with growling you can sing along. I'll still try new bands, though, in hopes that the band didn't recruit a banshee to be their frontman.

I gave up on new bands >_< I can sing along to what I listen to now*Which I'm not sure you would like cause it has growling* But it's a whole new language almost. You can read along with the lyrics to understand the words.

It's hard to find good metal. The days of Iron Maiden are over, and us old schooler's turn to their influences to find some good bands. But their very few in number. Hell I can't even name many good metal bands that are recent. Most bands I listen to now are atleast 10 years old if not older. Everything I like has gone from good to bad or from good to not as good as before but I still like it.

I havn't bought a new CD in a long time where I've said "Damn! That's a kick ass CD" I listen before I buy always and I have saved so much money that way. I miss the old days, music won't and can't get any heavier then it is now. People try and you get crap like Slipknot. I don't understand metal anymore.

It's making a slow come back though. Bands like Children Of Bodom and Arch Enemy are leading this. Hell COB will be touring here a total of 3 times with-in less then a years time. And AE 3 times as well. It's amazing to see this. Slayer is also making a come back and they promise an album that's better then anything recorded after "Seasons". I think metal still has a chance but bands like Trivium and MTV have ruined it's image so it's going to be hard for bands.


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