"Fast Forward" *Season 5 Spoilers*
 

I don't know how many of you are aware of this or not but Season 5 will feature the TMNT 99 years in the future. It's all part of an arc called "Fast Forward". Here are some rumors:

-NYC will be occuppied by numerous alien species
-Cody Jones, Casey's great grandson, will be their new ally
-the TMNT will be working with a group of "kids" to train them to fight
-it will last nearly the ENTIRE 5th season

I'm wondering is anyone else a little concerned that this storyline could cause the series to "Jump the Shark"?

:tsweatdr:

as long as none of the turtles marry, that ugly Dino girl princess doesn't try to marry Mikey, the turtles don't become monsters and suffer..its ok with me

wait "they will train "KIds" uh oh..they had kids?

I like the Future Shark Triology lol Anyways I don't know about this. I don't see the point in it and last time the show shot into the future it got canceled O_O Oh well Future Turtles are awesome so I guess we gota wait and see.

The way you described it.....yeah, i'm afraid this isn't good for the TMNT...

IF they can pull it off, which I htink the writers will be able to do, then It should be cool...

but still.. the idea of a jump into the future doesnt' sit well with me, even if it ISN'T permanent...


still.. where did you find this info? is this even confirmed?

...He is either SERIOUSLY pulling our leg, or this show is finished, it looks like the season finale will be a rehash of "Search For Splinter Part Two" with a twist, instead of being transported through Space, there transported through time. Then, when they return to the present, Karai basiclly is running New York as The Shredder.

I thought it was S6, not 5.

I wanna see one or all tmnt with some form of happiness, yes i mean a GIRL! they should be allowed to fall in love.

I'm not pulling anyone's leg. This info has been available for sometime. I've been posting here forever, I wouldn't go and pull a silly troll prank like that.

Here's the description from the official site:

Fall action figure releases:

TMNT: "Fast Forward" - The Turtles are accidentally thrust 99 years into the future where Manhattan Island is a settling point for numerous alien species from all over the galaxy. When the TMNT find themselves thrust into a "dark" future, they must team up with Cody Jones, descendant of the Turtles’ former ally.

Well, where'd you get the info it'll last almost all season long?

I meant Laird dude.:lol:

An e-mail was sent to Dan Berger from "Cyber Cubed" over at toonzone forums. CC is a VERY reliable source. Here's what CC says that Dan had to say:

"I e-mailed Dan Berger about it, and he said it was pretty much the entire season.

Gah, I hope that doesn't mean we won't see April, Casey, Splinter or any of the other characters for an entire season. That would suck.

The idea of the TMNT stuck in the future isn't exactly thrilling either, especially since the Future TMNT won't even be in most of it. And the "kids" that the TMNT will be training isn't reassuring either. "

Oh okay then. :tcool:

I just realized how stupid the name "Fast Forward" Is for a story arc about going into the future is. Shouldn't it be called something else. Fast Forward makes me think we're going back in time....Anyways I believe this is Laird's way of using the new comics in the series.

Fast Forward give you the impression of going back in time? Does rewind make you think of the future? ;)

Sorry, couldn't pass that one up!

No it makes me think of the past too! Crap Time is confusing:lol:I guess Fast Forward into the future makes sense I don't know it's late my brain dosn't function as well.

So am I. :sweatdro:

:roll: I don't know if that will be any good.I mean a few episodes in the future is ok, but an entire season?? Besides it's kinda said to see that Karai won, that may mean our turtles died or where killed. You know Raph went first cause he looks like he would of died first.

Wasn't there an episode already where Don was zapped into a demestion where Karai had won as well and successful killed the turtles?

That was Same As It Never Was or whatever it was called. Don ended up in some cliche "Shredder conquered the world" future and pretty much everyone ended up getting killed one way or another. Ugh.

This Fast Forward stuff does not sound promising, no sir.

Now, FF could be interesting, because if we think even further into the future, there could be way more drama.

In FF, the TMNT train kids, and I bet one's called Zach, so they're obviously interacting with a sort of society, even if it's small. Basically, their "We're all on our own" thinking gets cracked. So, now they come back and need to be back on their own, no society, alone again. This could be Mikey's season.

Anyhow, I see that this could be bad, but it doesn't need to be.

Well... like I said before, I don't like hte idea of a jump into the future, but I have to say that I"m willing to wait and watch this, because I have faith in the writers... We've remarked often that they've very skilled, and that the storyline has improved with each passing season... so there may be a chance that they would be able to pull this off...


Still... when I saw that the info came from toys, I was like.. bah.. then it'll never happen in the show! cuz if i'm not misstaken, the toys sometimes doesn't match the show at all...

Then I saw that Dan confrimed this info, then I was disappointed....


DO you think that the way Zarius described it may make the new series tie in with the upcoming movie? THe movie, as far as I can tell, may be about City At War (inferring from the various speculations made on this forums) and so maybe the TMNT come back to see that Karai have taken over the city, and they have to wage a war against the city in order to make some sort of peace with her?

This season 5 might be a downer-if the turtles in the future died and their children or new kids took over in honor of the turtles.

I mean present can change future at anytime,what if it results to having to kill Karai in order to protect the turtles in the future?

I for one like time travel, I recently bought the Back to the Future Trilogy, my favorite TMNT comic arc is Future Shark. I have Future TMNT in my "Action Figure Play," but....I dunna....I like my TMNT in their own time, a couple time hoping episodes here an there, cool, but a whole season...yikes...

Ok possible characters...we know there's Cody (I SOO want his action figure)..but the kids...lemme guess their names:

Zach
Dask
Kala
Shadow

Booya! :P

Since there are aliens it would be interesting to see a Protoceratops (Ceri) or even an alien fox (Ninjara!) or lizard (Mona Lisa) or a talking orange kitty or a bunch of talking orange kitties (ok I've watched WAY too much Kim Possible :P).

Either way this is all speculation over something that won't happen till fall 2006. :P

Gonna quote myself from another thread ('cuz I'm lazy & have carpal tunnel problems):

Several sci-fi and fantasy shows and series have taken the 'time leap' route in trying to bring back newness and vitality when they feel they've exhausted all the good stories. This tactic is doomed to failure because 1) you're killing off most of the fictional universe that you've built and that the fans loved, and 2) you really can't do anything in the new "reset" universe that you couldn't do in the original universe, so you're just dragging your writing problems along with you.

"Xena" was a great show... until the [25 year] time leap, which the writers deemed necessary to rid Xena of the burden of a toddler, who they thought was cramping her Warrior Princess style. By the end, they decided that the most dignified thing to do was kill off Xena, permanently, with a mess of arrows and decapitation. I guess you could write it off as a "greek tragedy," if you really wanted to, but the real tragedy is the death of a show due to shortsightedness.

"seaQuest DSV" did the time leap too, and that was pretty much the end of that.

However, TMNT is different... well I would hope anyway. The franchise has already gone in so many directions-- forward, backward, away from the home planet, etc-- that maybe they know more about what they're doing. Maybe they've got a plan. That's all they really need to keep it going; it's what those who failed in the 'time leap' were lacking. Anyway, how can you write Leo for years and not understand the value of a plan?! :P

It does sound to me like this 99-year leap spoiler is more of a thought-out plan than a desperate attempt to rescue a dying series. That, at least, is promising.

A big time jump effectively destroys the collection of established characters. Any characters who are not dead will, with few exceptions, be very old, and other characters may be represented by their descendents, such as Cody. It sounds like only the TMNT wil be there. If that's true, then the writers may have to get really creative with flashbacks and other tricks (recordings, holograms, visions, whatever) if they want to include the rest of the gang we know and love.

On the other hand, maybe Mrs. Morrison's cat's offispring will worship Raphael. ;) [/obscure Red Dwarf reference]

They will be in some of it? :-?


Edit: Jeepers I sound like even more of a knowitall than usual in this post. Someone please cut me down. :lol:

Oh...:o This...sounds bad. I mean it could work but I dunno it sounds like they are grasping at straws. I mean didn't we already do time travel (we had Renet and Ultimate Draco) why push that card even more? It sounds like they are going "ugh...it's getting boring let's do time travel!". I mean in some shows it worked but in others they just stuck that in there just for a boost.

I don't believe it's losing it's edge. What they have right now works. Why ruin that? :|

*shrugs* Eh. Whatever floats their boat I guess

I depends on what happens and how long it'll last for. With 'Turtles in Space', that lasted for about 5 episodes. Maybe this will be another fiver? :-? But if it's going to last for the whole series, maybe the turtles get sent back from the future, but some guys that are tailing them follow them and so on. To me this sounds a two-way possibility - one way going on the right track, the other heading for a cliff. But I'm sure they will pull it off :)

Sounds great to me. I can't wait.

Hey, whatever works. TMNT has been good, IMO at taking whack concepts and spinning them into gold--or something worthwhile. Yes, I do not like the concept of time travel. That whole premise sounds screwy to me. Then again, I do not like the concept of magic. And yet, the show has taken so much of what I normally find irritating and makes it highly enjoyable.

I will wait until I've seen the new season. Right now, I think the series is in its prime, the writing has been great this season, and I trust the people who are making this show. It will jump the shark when it jumps the shark.

I'm interested in seeing where this goes. While time travel has started to kill off some good characters, I think that the writers of the new series will make it very interesting. Right now, though, I'm more worried about seeing where this season goes!

I kinda worried too.
Although pretty much everything have been working fairly well (the minuses come from the repetitiveness of Shredder's return), I really wonder how the writer will it off this time.
Children?
TMNT training them?
Hmm... I sincerely hope those kids won't be stealing the TMNT's spotlight... unless they are interesting and have enough depth to get our attention.

The possibilty of no April, no Splinter and no Casey is a real bummer, but we've lived through a few EPs without them, so I guess a story-arc (or *gulp* the whole season) without them can still be bearable. It's just that I really got attached to April. :P

Personally, I can't wait to see that season!

I think your all worried it's going to turn into the new comic book and fail....I don't think peter would totally do that and think it would move allot faster animated wouldn't it....?
I have hopes for this so for once I'm going to dissagree with you guys and say this will be allot of fun....man if anyone else is like me let's start begging peter to please bring his character Armagon into this show man that would be sooooooo awsome.
Also I like the idea of them training kids because they did in the archie series as well. I would love to see the tmnt fight zombies and stuff like they did in the acrhie series.I hope future don wears that robe peter so often draws him wearing that would be great to get a toy of that....seriously the best future turtles by far has been archie so I hope he atleast takes something from it!
btw for the person that mentioned splinter he was listed as one of the characters for that toy line so I dount they wouldn't have him in the show.
-Putrescent

I'm pretty intrested in seeing where this story is gonna go. After all, TMNT is one show that knows how to do aliens.

And does anyone else get this feeling that Slasshuur(from TMNT 2 BattleNexus), will be showing up?

This hole thing worries me I dont know how that would work with whats happenining now , plus how old would the turtles be as it is they dont even act as teenagers anymore

they might be sensais then

Well... because of Gensteady and Kojima's recent appearence, I'm pretty sure Ninjara-esque and Mona Lisa-esque characters are going to be included in that season...

... both fighting over Raph, HAR HAR!

For those of you interested, I have corresponded with Dan Berger, the official Ninja Turtles media officer, who has had this to say following my critique on the potential pitfalls of time travel related story arcs with the TMNT:

Ack, the fact that the entire season will be set in the future sounds like the TMNT is in grave danger!! In addition to the points that Iris made (which I think were very accurate and insightful), time travel introduces many plot holes because due to the fact that anyone can time travel at any point, means that history can be erased and re-written numerous times, resulting in many "alternate futures" and "alternate pasts".

For example, the Shredder could travel back in time to kill the Turtles before they mutated to prevent them from becoming the heroes they've become. Then the Splinter could go back in time, and kill Ch'rell's Utrom parents before he was born to prevent the Shredder from committing his crimes. Then Ch'rell's Utrom parents could go back and destroy the Utrom race at their conception, who could in turn go back and destroy the very first organism that evolved, making it that life never existed in the first place. Can you see where I'm coming from? Time travel is ALWAYS asking for trouble...

I totally agree with dan I think allot of people are really way to hard on them....this shows really good the only other show that gets my attention on saterday mornings is sonic x.....and even thats boring compaired to tmnt :dead:
-Putrescent

A lot*

I think you guys worry too much.

Just because it's interesting now doesn't mean that they can't make mistakes. And I have to agree with the general populace on this one that the time travel story arc is shaping up to be a mistake of monumental proportions.

Don't get me wrong - I love the TMNT and want it to succeed, but this is without a doubt going to be a make-or-break decision by the writers... If they screw it, that's going to be the end of TMNT as we know it...

What I am wondering the most about is how the TMNT will reach the future and will it star future styled turtles or the turtles we know right now in a futuristic setting?