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fastforwarddregg 07-29-2007 10:30 AM

divide and conquer thought
 
the episode divide and conquer was the final episode. what did anyone think of it? It kind of had a good send off. I liked how in the end of the that episode is how Splinter told the Turtles he is no longer their mentor and have learned everything from him. I hated how it was popcorn that went kaput.

I loved how they had original bad guy remains: Krang's android and the technodrome. it was good to see his android body in this for the first time since Shredder Triumphant. I hated how Shredder and Krang were not in it. they should have been in it somehow. I mean it was the last episode and their longtime enemies were not in the last episode., I guess Turtle Trek served as the Turtles final battle with Shredder and Krang and Shredder and KRang were just part of the guest cast after that as they appeared in the 3 parter. Shredder and KRang got sent back to dimension X (watch closley as Shredder and Krang get blown on the been and when the turtles transport dregg while on the beam you hear Shredder yell I wont go back). they should have had them in there somehow. I LOVED HOW THEY HAD THE OLD MECHANIZED SOUND OF THE TECHNODROME WHEN IT APPEARED, there was an eerrie sound added to it though. I loved how the Technodrome was shown destroyed and wrecked on the hill, the inside was all wrecked and moldy, it probably got on the hill because the plant creature threw it in the air. the inside was wrecked and aliens inhabited it. But Shredder and KRang left it. WHY DIDNT They have like rock soilders or Foot Soilders or whatever instead of those aliens. they even had a krang android look alike. Notice this: Donatello tells Mikey that they dont know if the Technodrome portal has enough power to get them back. I loved how the sense of continuty was of the Turtles saying they destryoed the Technodrome.

mung's fate was never shown really.

I noticed one goof: April saying what on earth is that when the Turtles use Krang's android as she had seen it many times!!!!

we dont know what happened to dregg as he was thrown through the portal attached to Krang's android. he was just screaming no and Mikey said it was going to explode any second.

so no shredder and krang and even bebop and rocksteady.

was it intended to be the last episode? I mean the series was far gone by that point. good to show us the technodrome as a wrecked shell.


its on youtube

CyberCubed 07-29-2007 10:48 AM

It was meant to be the last episode, they pretty much knew the show was ending at that point. I thought Shredder/Krang already got a nice "last hurrah" with their 3-part return in the middle of Season 10.

Yeah, I really liked the return to the Technodrome and the use of Krang's Android body. It felt like a nice throwback to how long the show has been going on, and how the Technodrome, the "invicible war machine" from Season 1 was now totally destroyed.

The original cartoon did have a pretty good ending, I can't think of any loose ends that weren't tied up, aside from if Carter was ever able to cure his mutation, but that's better left open ended.

General Traag 07-29-2007 11:50 AM

I dunno, the last story-arc with dregg might had a pretty good ending,
but all of the major villains from the time before where totally unsolved.

What about Bebop/Rocksteady and Baxter just to name a few. And even though the technodrome got a good smash in 'turtle trek' it didn't seem more destroyed then back when it crashed into that big starship thingie. And krang still had his army of rock soldiers.
All the bad guys vanished, but with little to no explanation.

fastforwarddregg 07-29-2007 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by General Traag (Post 542036)
I dunno, the last story-arc with dregg might had a pretty good ending,
but all of the major villains from the time before where totally unsolved.

What about Bebop/Rocksteady and Baxter just to name a few. And even though the technodrome got a good smash in 'turtle trek' it didn't seem more destroyed then back when it crashed into that big starship thingie. And krang still had his army of rock soldiers.
All the bad guys vanished, but with little to no explanation.

maybe the bad guys had had enough (But krang said to shredder in power of three that fool dregg has given us another chance to destroy the turtles and take over where we left off). krang even yelled curse the day I ever met those miserable turtles.

What are other people's comments on this episode. IT seemed just as about destroyed as it did in Big blow out / plan 6 from outer space. But the inside of the technodrome and outside looked wrecked in Divide and conquered. bebop and rocksteady's fate was just unknown. maybe shredder and krang ditched them.

still I wish they had past villians in the ruined technodrome than those aliens. the technodrome was just a wasteland.

baxter was the biggest unresolved one by far.

how did you like Divide and conquer?

Scandia 07-29-2007 12:17 PM

I think it was a very good ending. It was conclusive of the major plotlines while at the same time leaving room for future fanfiction. TMNT is not the tightest story ever written- so there can be plenty of Tales-style additions.

Another little plot hole I noticed- they went to get Krang's android body. But Krang and company were not shown dying or fleeing the Technodrome in Dimension X. While it is unlikely that they would have tried to come back to Earth, the Turtles had no way to know that Krang and Shredder and Bebop and Rocksteady would NOT be lurking near the Technodrome and be a potential threat to them.

But otherwise, it was a fantastic conclusion to an awesome toon that is still one of my favorites and one of the best I have seen in both style and substance.

Turtle Power!

General Traag 07-29-2007 06:23 PM

The biggest plothole is that krangs android body magically moved from earth to dimension x.
In the last episode before red sky ('shredder triumphant'?) krang was seen to drive off with the others on a old pickup inside his android body. In the next episode ('get shredder') he's in his bubble walker. And in 'divide and conquer' the body somehow ended up in the technodrome in dimension x. Eh?

I still liked that episode though. :p

fastforwarddregg 07-29-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by General Traag (Post 542152)
The biggest plothole is that krangs android body magically moved from earth to dimension x.
In the last episode before red sky ('shredder triumphant'?) krang was seen to drive off with the others on a old pickup inside his android body. In the next episode ('get shredder') he's in his bubble walker. And in 'divide and conquer' the body somehow ended up in the technodrome in dimension x. Eh?

I still liked that episode though. :p

I agree about how it was in the technodrome.

but I still wish that shredder and Krang were in the last episode.

WAS SEASon 11 even planned and what could they do with Shredder, Krang adn dregg defeated and Splinter saying he is no longer their mentor.

Coola Yagami 07-29-2007 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Traag (Post 542036)
I dunno, the last story-arc with dregg might had a pretty good ending,
but all of the major villains from the time before where totally unsolved.

What about Bebop/Rocksteady and Baxter just to name a few. And even though the technodrome got a good smash in 'turtle trek' it didn't seem more destroyed then back when it crashed into that big starship thingie. And krang still had his army of rock soldiers.
All the bad guys vanished, but with little to no explanation.


Hmm you raised a fine point... what about Rat King? Leatherhead? Slash? Baxter? Lotus? Getting Usagi back to his homeworld? And all that stuff?

VaughnMichael 07-29-2007 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 542179)
Hmm you raised a fine point... what about Rat King? Leatherhead? Slash? Baxter? Lotus? Getting Usagi back to his homeworld? And all that stuff?

Rat King was Arrested at the end of the episode Wrath of The Rat King.
Well they didn't show it but the turtles mention him going away for a long time.

jenna 07-30-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 542016)
I thought Shredder/Krang already got a nice "last hurrah" with their 3-part return in the middle of Season 10.

I loved that three-parter so much I nearly cried. I'm a simple soul.

fastforwarddregg 09-15-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna (Post 542326)
I loved that three-parter so much I nearly cried. I'm a simple soul.

still Divide and Conquer was the Final episode evfer of the series that cloesd with Splinter saying he is no longer their mentor!!!

Shredder and KRang should have been in it somehow! how did those monsters get in the technodrome and I wish it was rock and foot solders and Shredder Krang and bebop and Rocksteady. notice it was green in some parts of the inside of the technodrome.

jenna 09-15-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fastforwarddregg (Post 557102)
still Divide and Conquer was the Final episode evfer of the series that cloesd with Splinter saying he is no longer their mentor!!!

Eh? What's your point, dude?

fastforwarddregg 09-15-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna (Post 557133)
Eh? What's your point, dude?

my point is the finale could have had more like having Shredder and KRang and old villians in the Technodrome. But I loved it having old Bad guy remains like the Android Body and the severly destroyed Technodrome.

and I am happy the series did have a finale! and it gave us an IDea that dregg may have died as the Android body was attached to dregg when it would explode soon and where did the body land? and no pizza in the finale but it had popcorn.

jenna 09-15-2007 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fastforwarddregg (Post 557134)
my point is the finale could have had more like having Shredder and KRang and old villians in the Technodrome. But I loved it having old Bad guy remains like the Android Body and the severly destroyed Technodrome.

and I am happy the series did have a finale! and it gave us an IDea that dregg may have died as the Android body was attached to dregg when it would explode soon and where did the body land? and no pizza in the finale but it had popcorn.

OT rule number one: logic will get you no-where.

ebo 08-29-2009 08:50 AM

Another plothole that I mentioned in my own thread was they never cured Leonardo's advanced mutation completely according to dregg in "the beginning of the end" episode. I know they thought they did, but dregg said he permanetly altered it, and the show never mentioned it again after that. That drove me nuts for days trying to figure out whether the turtles completely fixed him, but I finally told myself it was a cartoon, and to get over it. lol

gobo 08-29-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jenna (Post 557141)
OT rule number one: logic will get you no-where.

I dig how you think. :tthumbsu:

Deathknight 08-29-2009 04:26 PM

I wasn't a big fan of the episode. Though it was rather ironic that they had to use a device made by Shredder to defeat Dregg. Though it was kind of inconclusive since you don't really see Dregg. He goes through the portal and you hear the body explode... that doesn't necessarily mean he died. Though of course they couldn't show that since it was a kid's cartoon but it also left the possibility of season 11. I remember hearing that the reason there was no reason 11 was not because of bad ratings but merely because CBS wanted to start making their Saturday mornings more educational.

ToTheNines 08-29-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathknight (Post 717781)
I remember hearing that the reason there was no reason 11 was not because of bad ratings but merely because CBS wanted to start making their Saturday mornings more educational.

Meh. It was time to let it go, just like it's the NT's time right now.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 08-29-2009 05:26 PM

Street gang
 
They could have the street gang where Bebop and Rocksteady once were members (probably Purple Dragons, just not mentioned in that show) in the Technodrome.

ToTheNines 08-29-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 717792)
They could have the street gang where Bebop and Rocksteady once were members (probably Purple Dragons, just not mentioned in that show) in the Technodrome.

What does that pertain to?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 08-30-2009 10:42 AM

Bebop and Rocksteady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 717807)
What does that pertain to?

Fight the same guys and gurls who they fought met in "Turtle Tracks". Of course, Bebop and Rocksteady should be there as leading the gang.

ToTheNines 08-30-2009 10:46 AM

You mean for the eleventh season? I doubt anyone would have remembered a few cameo characters from 9 seasons previous.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 08-31-2009 06:38 AM

Last episode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 717864)
You mean for the eleventh season? I doubt anyone would have remembered a few cameo characters from 9 seasons previous.

I mean the last episode. And many of those who watched the show from the start would remember.

Deathknight 08-31-2009 03:11 PM

I always found it amusing how many times in Season 8 Splinter or someone else was like we might see them (the guest character[s]) again yet not a single one came back. Though I guess you do get to see Landor and Meritt in Season 10 after their season 9 appearance but meh.

ToTheNines 08-31-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 717982)
I mean the last episode. And many of those who watched the show from the start would remember.

You seriously think those guys just sat in the Drome for 10 seasons and did nothing? I think they rolled out after season 1.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 09-01-2009 07:07 AM

It has been discussed earlier what happened to them?
 
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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 718067)
You seriously think those guys just sat in the Drome for 10 seasons and did nothing? I think they rolled out after season 1.

It has been discussed earlier what happened to them?

mikey22 10-01-2009 01:15 PM

pizza-

cmon i think you all would agree that there should have been a pizza reference instead of popcorn at the end!

Icebot 10-12-2009 03:31 PM

I don't think Dregg was destroyed when he got pushed into Dimension X with Krang's body. At the end of the previous episode (the Day the Earth Disappeared), Dregg's ship exploded like a supernova and got sucked in the black hole. If Dregg can survive that, he should be able to survive the one from Krang's body. Plus he had the exoskeleton for extra protection, and he didn't have that in the Day the Earth Disappeared.

And since Dregg went through the portal that led to the Technodrome, he probably thought of the Technodrome as a very useful base. He probably could have easily repaired the Technodrome with his Microbots, as they have made technology so easily in Season 10. Eventually, maybe Shredder and Krang could take it back from him somehow.

General Traag 10-12-2009 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 718189)
It has been discussed earlier what happened to them?

If i remember right, the gang was shown being locked up inside the technodrome in a later episode. Their status after that is not known, chances are they are still locked up inside the technodrome untill this very day, they might aswell have hired on a different show after the first season though.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-13-2009 06:01 AM

Shredder & Splintered
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Traag (Post 725495)
If i remember right, the gang was shown being locked up inside the technodrome in a later episode. Their status after that is not known, chances are they are still locked up inside the technodrome untill this very day, they might aswell have hired on a different show after the first season though.

It's "Shredder & Splintered".

Darky5K 10-15-2009 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fastforwarddregg (Post 557102)
still Divide and Conquer was the Final episode evfer of the series that cloesd with Splinter saying he is no longer their mentor!!!

Shredder and KRang should have been in it somehow! how did those monsters get in the technodrome and I wish it was rock and foot solders and Shredder Krang and bebop and Rocksteady. notice it was green in some parts of the inside of the technodrome.

I always guessed the monsters were Dimension X denizens that revolted in retatliation for Krang's crimes after news spread of the Technodrome having its engines blown out and all weapons used up over the series. Seriously, the Rock and Foot forces couldn't repel an entire galaxy.

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Originally Posted by coola yugami
Hmm you raised a fine point... what about Rat King? Leatherhead? Slash? Baxter? Lotus? Getting Usagi back to his homeworld? And all that stuff?

Leatherhead and Slash, last we saw, ran away in Night of the Rogues. Rat King was among them, but arrested in season 8.

Baxter, last we saw, was stranded in a dimensional limbo going insane, near where the Krangazoids were banished. No one was there for them to harm.

Lotus was a one time character, hinting she may go straight, and Usagi was stuck here.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-15-2009 06:36 AM

Usagi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darky5K (Post 725959)
Usagi was stuck here.

I doubt Usagi was stuck in this history, they just forgot to show his return home.

wyldsilence 11-29-2009 09:50 PM

so the Original turtles from the recent turtles forever cross didn't pick up from this point I take it?

And this was never shown on television correct?

ZariusTwo 11-30-2009 05:22 AM

Nothing says that they didnt pick off from season ten. The Technodrome is left upgraded, so it obviously DID take place after it. Everything obviously went back to the original status quoe in between seasons

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Originally Posted by Icebot (Post 725465)
And since Dregg went through the portal that led to the Technodrome, he probably thought of the Technodrome as a very useful base. He probably could have easily repaired the Technodrome with his Microbots, as they have made technology so easily in Season 10. Eventually, maybe Shredder and Krang could take it back from him somehow.

A fridge full of "Win" for you.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-30-2009 05:58 AM

The Gang's All Here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Traag (Post 725495)
If i remember right, the gang was shown being locked up inside the technodrome in a later episode. Their status after that is not known, chances are they are still locked up inside the technodrome untill this very day, they might aswell have hired on a different show after the first season though.

Some appeared in "The Gang's All Here" in season 3 (1989).

Coola Yagami 11-30-2009 08:01 AM

Weren't they all completely new gang members? Even though it was supposed to be 'their old gang'.

Icebot 11-30-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 738090)
Weren't they all completely new gang members? Even though it was supposed to be 'their old gang'.

I'm pretty sure Jersey Red was. She was nowhere to be seen in Season 1 and her name wasn't mentioned back then.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 12-01-2009 05:58 AM

Technodrome
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 738090)
Weren't they all completely new gang members? Even though it was supposed to be 'their old gang'.

Maybe it was more gang members, some of them weren't in the Technodrome during season 1.

MikeandRaph87 12-29-2011 06:02 PM

It was a great ending to Dregg but instead of him coming back why not Shredder and Krang in the last three episodes after they and Dregg were sucked into Dimension X in "Turtles To The Second Power"?

Yeah,why end on a joke like Don's poor job of cooking popcorn?:ohwell:
It seemed just like "Shredder Triumphant", Turtle Trek", and "Doomsquest" as nice finales to a season,but it did not feel like a series finale.

I found it amusing that Dregg kidnapped April like old times. It had been since "Invasion of The Krangoids" that she was kidnapped by a villain unless her being locked up with the rest of Channel Six's employment counts towards that. I always wanted to see Shredder put Dregg away instead of the turtles as a way to claim his rightful place over the underworld of New York and the TMNT's greatest threat. A sword fight between him and Dregg was a missed opportunity. Still in a way Krang and he got revenge on Dregg and did defeat him in a way through Krang's Andriod body. Aside from "Split Second" which didn't even need Dregg in there for thirty seconds it was the best episode that he was in that did not have Shredder and Krang. I especially liked how the TMNT drove him insane and he couldn't care less about his original goal at this point.

It always made me wonder why is it called "Divide and Conquer"? The TMNT were not broke up to beat one by one or anything of the sort.

Bill 03-11-2012 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastforwarddregg (Post 557134)
my point is the finale could have had more like having Shredder and KRang and old villians in the Technodrome. But I loved it having old Bad guy remains like the Android Body and the severly destroyed Technodrome.

and I am happy the series did have a finale! and it gave us an IDea that dregg may have died as the Android body was attached to dregg when it would explode soon and where did the body land? and no pizza in the finale but it had popcorn.

I couldn´t agree more.It is shocking to me to see that Technodrome end
like that. Wish they have change the direction of the series, having it
repaired, with full power They could have sent (Krang and Shredder) to the moon, sahara or other place and got stuck there. But after ten years
of seeing the Technodrome you realy don´t want to see it destroyed and
abandon.


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