divide and conquer thought

fastforwarddregg · 07-29-2007, 10:30 AM

the episode divide and conquer was the final episode. what did anyone think of it? It kind of had a good send off. I liked how in the end of the that episode is how Splinter told the Turtles he is no longer their mentor and have learned everything from him. I hated how it was popcorn that went kaput.

I loved how they had original bad guy remains: Krang's android and the technodrome. it was good to see his android body in this for the first time since Shredder Triumphant. I hated how Shredder and Krang were not in it. they should have been in it somehow. I mean it was the last episode and their longtime enemies were not in the last episode., I guess Turtle Trek served as the Turtles final battle with Shredder and Krang and Shredder and KRang were just part of the guest cast after that as they appeared in the 3 parter. Shredder and KRang got sent back to dimension X (watch closley as Shredder and Krang get blown on the been and when the turtles transport dregg while on the beam you hear Shredder yell I wont go back). they should have had them in there somehow. I LOVED HOW THEY HAD THE OLD MECHANIZED SOUND OF THE TECHNODROME WHEN IT APPEARED, there was an eerrie sound added to it though. I loved how the Technodrome was shown destroyed and wrecked on the hill, the inside was all wrecked and moldy, it probably got on the hill because the plant creature threw it in the air. the inside was wrecked and aliens inhabited it. But Shredder and KRang left it. WHY DIDNT They have like rock soilders or Foot Soilders or whatever instead of those aliens. they even had a krang android look alike. Notice this: Donatello tells Mikey that they dont know if the Technodrome portal has enough power to get them back. I loved how the sense of continuty was of the Turtles saying they destryoed the Technodrome.

mung's fate was never shown really.

I noticed one goof: April saying what on earth is that when the Turtles use Krang's android as she had seen it many times!!!!

we dont know what happened to dregg as he was thrown through the portal attached to Krang's android. he was just screaming no and Mikey said it was going to explode any second.

so no shredder and krang and even bebop and rocksteady.

was it intended to be the last episode? I mean the series was far gone by that point. good to show us the technodrome as a wrecked shell.

its on youtube

*CyberCubed* · 07-29-2007, 10:48 AM

It was meant to be the last episode, they pretty much knew the show was ending at that point. I thought Shredder/Krang already got a nice "last hurrah" with their 3-part return in the middle of Season 10.

Yeah, I really liked the return to the Technodrome and the use of Krang's Android body. It felt like a nice throwback to how long the show has been going on, and how the Technodrome, the "invicible war machine" from Season 1 was now totally destroyed.

The original cartoon did have a pretty good ending, I can't think of any loose ends that weren't tied up, aside from if Carter was ever able to cure his mutation, but that's better left open ended.

General Traag · 07-29-2007, 11:50 AM

I dunno, the last story-arc with dregg might had a pretty good ending,
but all of the major villains from the time before where totally unsolved.

What about Bebop/Rocksteady and Baxter just to name a few. And even though the technodrome got a good smash in 'turtle trek' it didn't seem more destroyed then back when it crashed into that big starship thingie. And krang still had his army of rock soldiers.
All the bad guys vanished, but with little to no explanation.

fastforwarddregg · 07-29-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by General Traag

I dunno, the last story-arc with dregg might had a pretty good ending,
but all of the major villains from the time before where totally unsolved.

What about Bebop/Rocksteady and Baxter just to name a few. And even though the technodrome got a good smash in 'turtle trek' it didn't seem more destroyed then back when it crashed into that big starship thingie. And krang still had his army of rock soldiers.
All the bad guys vanished, but with little to no explanation.

maybe the bad guys had had enough (But krang said to shredder in power of three that fool dregg has given us another chance to destroy the turtles and take over where we left off). krang even yelled curse the day I ever met those miserable turtles.

What are other people's comments on this episode. IT seemed just as about destroyed as it did in Big blow out / plan 6 from outer space. But the inside of the technodrome and outside looked wrecked in Divide and conquered. bebop and rocksteady's fate was just unknown. maybe shredder and krang ditched them.

still I wish they had past villians in the ruined technodrome than those aliens. the technodrome was just a wasteland.

baxter was the biggest unresolved one by far.

how did you like Divide and conquer?

*Scandia* · 07-29-2007, 12:17 PM

I think it was a very good ending. It was conclusive of the major plotlines while at the same time leaving room for future fanfiction. TMNT is not the tightest story ever written- so there can be plenty of Tales-style additions.

Another little plot hole I noticed- they went to get Krang's android body. But Krang and company were not shown dying or fleeing the Technodrome in Dimension X. While it is unlikely that they would have tried to come back to Earth, the Turtles had no way to know that Krang and Shredder and Bebop and Rocksteady would NOT be lurking near the Technodrome and be a potential threat to them.

But otherwise, it was a fantastic conclusion to an awesome toon that is still one of my favorites and one of the best I have seen in both style and substance.

Turtle Power!

General Traag · 07-29-2007, 06:23 PM

The biggest plothole is that krangs android body magically moved from earth to dimension x.
In the last episode before red sky ('shredder triumphant'?) krang was seen to drive off with the others on a old pickup inside his android body. In the next episode ('get shredder') he's in his bubble walker. And in 'divide and conquer' the body somehow ended up in the technodrome in dimension x. Eh?

I still liked that episode though. :p

fastforwarddregg · 07-29-2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by General Traag

The biggest plothole is that krangs android body magically moved from earth to dimension x.
In the last episode before red sky ('shredder triumphant'?) krang was seen to drive off with the others on a old pickup inside his android body. In the next episode ('get shredder') he's in his bubble walker. And in 'divide and conquer' the body somehow ended up in the technodrome in dimension x. Eh?

I still liked that episode though. :p

I agree about how it was in the technodrome.

but I still wish that shredder and Krang were in the last episode.

WAS SEASon 11 even planned and what could they do with Shredder, Krang adn dregg defeated and Splinter saying he is no longer their mentor.

*Coola Yagami* · 07-29-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by General Traag

I dunno, the last story-arc with dregg might had a pretty good ending,
but all of the major villains from the time before where totally unsolved.

What about Bebop/Rocksteady and Baxter just to name a few. And even though the technodrome got a good smash in 'turtle trek' it didn't seem more destroyed then back when it crashed into that big starship thingie. And krang still had his army of rock soldiers.
All the bad guys vanished, but with little to no explanation.

Hmm you raised a fine point... what about Rat King? Leatherhead? Slash? Baxter? Lotus? Getting Usagi back to his homeworld? And all that stuff?

*VaughnMichael* · 07-29-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Hmm you raised a fine point... what about Rat King? Leatherhead? Slash? Baxter? Lotus? Getting Usagi back to his homeworld? And all that stuff?

Rat King was Arrested at the end of the episode Wrath of The Rat King.
Well they didn't show it but the turtles mention him going away for a long time.

jenna · 07-30-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I thought Shredder/Krang already got a nice "last hurrah" with their 3-part return in the middle of Season 10.

I loved that three-parter so much I nearly cried. I'm a simple soul.

fastforwarddregg · 09-15-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna

I loved that three-parter so much I nearly cried. I'm a simple soul.

still Divide and Conquer was the Final episode evfer of the series that cloesd with Splinter saying he is no longer their mentor!!!

Shredder and KRang should have been in it somehow! how did those monsters get in the technodrome and I wish it was rock and foot solders and Shredder Krang and bebop and Rocksteady. notice it was green in some parts of the inside of the technodrome.

jenna · 09-15-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fastforwarddregg

still Divide and Conquer was the Final episode evfer of the series that cloesd with Splinter saying he is no longer their mentor!!!

Eh? What's your point, dude?

fastforwarddregg · 09-15-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jenna

Eh? What's your point, dude?

my point is the finale could have had more like having Shredder and KRang and old villians in the Technodrome. But I loved it having old Bad guy remains like the Android Body and the severly destroyed Technodrome.

and I am happy the series did have a finale! and it gave us an IDea that dregg may have died as the Android body was attached to dregg when it would explode soon and where did the body land? and no pizza in the finale but it had popcorn.

jenna · 09-15-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fastforwarddregg

my point is the finale could have had more like having Shredder and KRang and old villians in the Technodrome. But I loved it having old Bad guy remains like the Android Body and the severly destroyed Technodrome.

and I am happy the series did have a finale! and it gave us an IDea that dregg may have died as the Android body was attached to dregg when it would explode soon and where did the body land? and no pizza in the finale but it had popcorn.

OT rule number one: logic will get you no-where.

ebo · 08-29-2009, 08:50 AM

Another plothole that I mentioned in my own thread was they never cured Leonardo's advanced mutation completely according to dregg in "the beginning of the end" episode. I know they thought they did, but dregg said he permanetly altered it, and the show never mentioned it again after that. That drove me nuts for days trying to figure out whether the turtles completely fixed him, but I finally told myself it was a cartoon, and to get over it. lol

*gobo* · 08-29-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jenna

OT rule number one: logic will get you no-where.

I dig how you think.

*Deathknight* · 08-29-2009, 04:26 PM

I wasn't a big fan of the episode. Though it was rather ironic that they had to use a device made by Shredder to defeat Dregg. Though it was kind of inconclusive since you don't really see Dregg. He goes through the portal and you hear the body explode... that doesn't necessarily mean he died. Though of course they couldn't show that since it was a kid's cartoon but it also left the possibility of season 11. I remember hearing that the reason there was no reason 11 was not because of bad ratings but merely because CBS wanted to start making their Saturday mornings more educational.

*ToTheNines* · 08-29-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathknight

I remember hearing that the reason there was no reason 11 was not because of bad ratings but merely because CBS wanted to start making their Saturday mornings more educational.

Meh. It was time to let it go, just like it's the NT's time right now.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 08-29-2009, 05:26 PM

They could have the street gang where Bebop and Rocksteady once were members (probably Purple Dragons, just not mentioned in that show) in the Technodrome.

*ToTheNines* · 08-29-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

They could have the street gang where Bebop and Rocksteady once were members (probably Purple Dragons, just not mentioned in that show) in the Technodrome.

What does that pertain to?

07-29-2007, 10:30 AM	#1
fastforwarddregg Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 164	divide and conquer thought the episode divide and conquer was the final episode. what did anyone think of it? It kind of had a good send off. I liked how in the end of the that episode is how Splinter told the Turtles he is no longer their mentor and have learned everything from him. I hated how it was popcorn that went kaput. I loved how they had original bad guy remains: Krang's android and the technodrome. it was good to see his android body in this for the first time since Shredder Triumphant. I hated how Shredder and Krang were not in it. they should have been in it somehow. I mean it was the last episode and their longtime enemies were not in the last episode., I guess Turtle Trek served as the Turtles final battle with Shredder and Krang and Shredder and KRang were just part of the guest cast after that as they appeared in the 3 parter. Shredder and KRang got sent back to dimension X (watch closley as Shredder and Krang get blown on the been and when the turtles transport dregg while on the beam you hear Shredder yell I wont go back). they should have had them in there somehow. I LOVED HOW THEY HAD THE OLD MECHANIZED SOUND OF THE TECHNODROME WHEN IT APPEARED, there was an eerrie sound added to it though. I loved how the Technodrome was shown destroyed and wrecked on the hill, the inside was all wrecked and moldy, it probably got on the hill because the plant creature threw it in the air. the inside was wrecked and aliens inhabited it. But Shredder and KRang left it. WHY DIDNT They have like rock soilders or Foot Soilders or whatever instead of those aliens. they even had a krang android look alike. Notice this: Donatello tells Mikey that they dont know if the Technodrome portal has enough power to get them back. I loved how the sense of continuty was of the Turtles saying they destryoed the Technodrome. mung's fate was never shown really. I noticed one goof: April saying what on earth is that when the Turtles use Krang's android as she had seen it many times!!!! we dont know what happened to dregg as he was thrown through the portal attached to Krang's android. he was just screaming no and Mikey said it was going to explode any second. so no shredder and krang and even bebop and rocksteady. was it intended to be the last episode? I mean the series was far gone by that point. good to show us the technodrome as a wrecked shell. its on youtube

07-29-2007, 11:50 AM	#3
General Traag Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Technodrome Mark III, Dimension X Posts: 174	I dunno, the last story-arc with dregg might had a pretty good ending, but all of the major villains from the time before where totally unsolved. What about Bebop/Rocksteady and Baxter just to name a few. And even though the technodrome got a good smash in 'turtle trek' it didn't seem more destroyed then back when it crashed into that big starship thingie. And krang still had his army of rock soldiers. All the bad guys vanished, but with little to no explanation. __________________ -

07-29-2007, 12:17 PM	#5
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I think it was a very good ending. It was conclusive of the major plotlines while at the same time leaving room for future fanfiction. TMNT is not the tightest story ever written- so there can be plenty of Tales-style additions. Another little plot hole I noticed- they went to get Krang's android body. But Krang and company were not shown dying or fleeing the Technodrome in Dimension X. While it is unlikely that they would have tried to come back to Earth, the Turtles had no way to know that Krang and Shredder and Bebop and Rocksteady would NOT be lurking near the Technodrome and be a potential threat to them. But otherwise, it was a fantastic conclusion to an awesome toon that is still one of my favorites and one of the best I have seen in both style and substance. Turtle Power! __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

07-29-2007, 06:23 PM	#6
General Traag Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Technodrome Mark III, Dimension X Posts: 174	The biggest plothole is that krangs android body magically moved from earth to dimension x. In the last episode before red sky ('shredder triumphant'?) krang was seen to drive off with the others on a old pickup inside his android body. In the next episode ('get shredder') he's in his bubble walker. And in 'divide and conquer' the body somehow ended up in the technodrome in dimension x. Eh? I still liked that episode though. :p __________________ -

08-29-2009, 04:26 PM	#17
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	I wasn't a big fan of the episode. Though it was rather ironic that they had to use a device made by Shredder to defeat Dregg. Though it was kind of inconclusive since you don't really see Dregg. He goes through the portal and you hear the body explode... that doesn't necessarily mean he died. Though of course they couldn't show that since it was a kid's cartoon but it also left the possibility of season 11. I remember hearing that the reason there was no reason 11 was not because of bad ratings but merely because CBS wanted to start making their Saturday mornings more educational. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

07-29-2007, 10:48 AM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,732	It was meant to be the last episode, they pretty much knew the show was ending at that point. I thought Shredder/Krang already got a nice "last hurrah" with their 3-part return in the middle of Season 10. Yeah, I really liked the return to the Technodrome and the use of Krang's Android body. It felt like a nice throwback to how long the show has been going on, and how the Technodrome, the "invicible war machine" from Season 1 was now totally destroyed. The original cartoon did have a pretty good ending, I can't think of any loose ends that weren't tied up, aside from if Carter was ever able to cure his mutation, but that's better left open ended.

08-29-2009, 08:50 AM	#15
ebo Mouser Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 11	Another plothole that I mentioned in my own thread was they never cured Leonardo's advanced mutation completely according to dregg in "the beginning of the end" episode. I know they thought they did, but dregg said he permanetly altered it, and the show never mentioned it again after that. That drove me nuts for days trying to figure out whether the turtles completely fixed him, but I finally told myself it was a cartoon, and to get over it. lol

08-29-2009, 05:26 PM	#19
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,478	Street gang They could have the street gang where Bebop and Rocksteady once were members (probably Purple Dragons, just not mentioned in that show) in the Technodrome.