Forever War
 

I don't know if there has been a thread made for this but I figured I'd make one because I had an interesting thought...

So I'm reading Terracide (probably one of the saddest moments in TMNT history), and Future Don mentioned something... he said that their younger selves had just come back from their first battle with Animus. Archie never had a second battle or any other battles for taht matter against Animus. So maybe Animus comes back? Maybe Mutanimals make a return as enemies but then become allies? Who knows, but just a thought...

Good observation. Perhaps in Forever War he gets unshrunk? We don't know much about Forever War or who all are involved (other than Shredder, the TMNT, and Ninjara). Perhaps Animus is in it as well?

There's another encounter with Animus in Michael Zulli's Soul's Winter trillogy in the Mirage book (vol 1). Splinter summons a different version of him to heal the turtles.

But Animus also appears several times in sci-fi/fantasy: Doctor Who, he's identified as one of the Lovecraftian old ones, he was an intelligent megazord in Power Rangers Wild Force, a Greek band.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animus (wikipedia doesn't list the TMNT character)

That can't be the encounter their talking about because the Future TMNT are in Forever War. So if they see Animus again that would be their third encounter.

I'm pretty sure the plot of Forever War is Shredder uses the Time Slip to pull the turtles deadliest enemies from all over their timeline.

Then what would keep the Future TMNT from using the timeslip to pull versions of themselves from all over the timeline?

Shredder has the controller.;)

Aww, man I loved the Archie series!
Sad when it was ended. :cry:
I remember reading about Clairren(sp?) & Allen were working on the Forever War, in the back of Tales a while back, can't recall which iss, thou....
HopeHOPEhope Mirage gets to publish it someday:)

The Animus War is one of my favorite Archie storylines. I like the heroine. I like the setting. This is one arc that they can adapt into the 2k3 cartoon without resorting to other mutants or changing the main premise.

And what was published first- Souls Winter or Animus War?

A quick check of ninjaturtles.com shows "Souls Winter" was first printed in 1990 and "Animus War" in 1994.

Info on the Forever War can be found at: http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2...rever-war.html

:)

Cool! So it looks like things are back on as far as it being released? It keeps getting planned and then cancelled, planned and then cancelled, let's hope this one sticks!

Plus...a trade of TMNT Adventures? More awesome news. Ideally, I'd like to see all the old Mirage and Archie stuff reprinted again, but then again...Mirage probably doesn't have the same resources as Marvel. One can dream (and chase down old issues) I guess.:)

Aye... expect Forever War to be out in 2009 along with TPB's of the Archie series. This is one of the many things being done for the 25th annaversary.

As for seeing the old Mirage stuff in reprint. There's many reprints of Vol 1 out now. Most of Vol 1 is in TPB.... Tales of the TMNT vol 2 is in TPB format.... Tales vol 1 will be someday (they're having some problems with it tho).

U can still buy copies of the Mirage and Archie books thru the official site too.

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/catalog.htm

I tracked down copies of the colorized Vol. 1 trades not to long ago. I've also gotten books 2-5 of the Mirage trades as well. I also have a trade of the first 5 Image issues that I found a long time ago.

As someone becoming more interested in the Mirage turtles, what would the next step be? To start getting the Tales vol. 2 trades?

Krang
 

Maybe Krang apperars. Are these stories written now or in 1995?

He very well may, and they take place in the archie series not mirage and I'm pretty sure it takes place in the archie future world but shredder keeps bringing the turtles enimies from all over time back to haunt them.

Krang was never an integral character in the Archie series. Neither really were Rocksteady and BeBop. All 3 characters left after issue 15. Rocksteady and BeBop have their own world.

I know Shredder's in it...maybe perhaps Hitler, Armagen, and Null? Dunno... Ninjara's in it...that's all I care really. :D

Putrescent sure does love that Armagen. :lol:

Personally, I want to see more of Golani. "The Animus War" has been my favorite arc so far.

I love how I get made fun of yet Raphs Girl said it wrong..shesus.:P
I'm pretty sure she is in from the art that was shown.

I know you mean issue #25 ;) hehe

The original cover art was drafted back in the day, although a fully scripted story was not yet ready. More or less, the covers were used as the basis for the evolving story. With the cancellation of the series, the amount of detail put on paper is anyone's guess. The story is being written now ("now" meaning over a period of time where we've seen cancellations and approvals come and go for this project, lol), as Dean Clarrain is scripting and Chris Allan will return to the pencils.

Hope that helps :)

More confirmation of The Forever War can be found in the comments in the following entry by Mr. Murphy:

http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2...ng-part-1.html

The blog entry itself has some interesting info regarding the end of the series.

:D

So Archie wasn't big on doing a more "serious" kind of superhero story with a threatening Shredder?

Just so everyone knows these are going to be in black and white..ick.
Looks like I'll have lots of coloring to do.:P

Black and white doesn't bug me at all. I have a big collection of Marvel Essentials and DC Showcase Presents.

I don't have a problem with black and white.
Also, you can look up the pages on line, save them, and practice coloring them with Photoshop or Corel draw, ect.
Black and white is fine with me.

And that means? sorry I don't read marvel comic the only I was ever into from them was Deadpool and they killed that series when they changed artists.

Well, those 2 types of TPBs are done in black-and-white (as opposed to the comics they reprint having been in color originally).

if something came out in color to start with I really don't see the point of releasing something in black and white...it seems like a downgrade to me.:dead:

Let's just hope they make up for it by featuring a really detailed style of art.

You already know what the art is going to look like Spit.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this final huge arc come out. I always loved the archie comics, especially checking out new issues whenever I went with my parents to the Grocery store...

I remember seeing the covers from Chris Allan's site some years ago, and the details are incredibly good... I'm sure Murphy'll be posting his final cover pic of Splinter and Shredder fighting. It's a very gritty kind of art, in my opinion. I can't wait to see it.. :D

http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2...ng-part-6.html

First 6 pages of the original plan for Forever War Part 1 up on Mr. Murphy's blog!!!!

Best Christmas present ever!!!

no kidding :)

Yay!!! That was awesome reading the first 6 pages!! :D

Snowflakes! :lol:

The best present is when it comes out, I'm still sketchy on that happening. Either way seeing this pisses me off knowing they didn't release it when it just needed inking.

Awesome!!! Can't believe this train is finally in motion! I guess Archie TMNT will get its proper finish! :D

Murphy's confirmed it's coming out more than once, what more do you need?

And if you'd read any of Murphy's postings this week, you'd know there was far more involved than just a need for inking (and pencils were only complete on the first issue). Sheesh, Scrooge.

I don't trust stuff till I see it in my hand. It comes from being let down by releases on lots of things. I call it being cautious.

Well, the Marvel ESSENTIAL TPBs are huge meaning we get a lot of the series at once! However, they're also very inexpensive. They probably pull this off by reprinting them without color.