Forever War

*odupianist* · 10-02-2007, 11:12 AM

I don't know if there has been a thread made for this but I figured I'd make one because I had an interesting thought...

So I'm reading Terracide (probably one of the saddest moments in TMNT history), and Future Don mentioned something... he said that their younger selves had just come back from their first battle with Animus. Archie never had a second battle or any other battles for taht matter against Animus. So maybe Animus comes back? Maybe Mutanimals make a return as enemies but then become allies? Who knows, but just a thought...

*Raph's Girl* · 10-02-2007, 11:38 AM

Good observation. Perhaps in Forever War he gets unshrunk? We don't know much about Forever War or who all are involved (other than Shredder, the TMNT, and Ninjara). Perhaps Animus is in it as well?

There's another encounter with Animus in Michael Zulli's Soul's Winter trillogy in the Mirage book (vol 1). Splinter summons a different version of him to heal the turtles.

But Animus also appears several times in sci-fi/fantasy: Doctor Who, he's identified as one of the Lovecraftian old ones, he was an intelligent megazord in Power Rangers Wild Force, a Greek band.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animus (wikipedia doesn't list the TMNT character)

*Spitfire* · 10-02-2007, 01:57 PM

That can't be the encounter their talking about because the Future TMNT are in Forever War. So if they see Animus again that would be their third encounter.

I'm pretty sure the plot of Forever War is Shredder uses the Time Slip to pull the turtles deadliest enemies from all over their timeline.

*odupianist* · 10-03-2007, 08:17 AM

Then what would keep the Future TMNT from using the timeslip to pull versions of themselves from all over the timeline?

*VaughnMichael* · 10-03-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

Then what would keep the Future TMNT from using the timeslip to pull versions of themselves from all over the timeline?

Shredder has the controller.

NinjaFootClan75 · 10-18-2007, 11:14 PM

Aww, man I loved the Archie series!
Sad when it was ended.

I remember reading about Clairren(sp?) & Allen were working on the Forever War, in the back of Tales a while back, can't recall which iss, thou....
HopeHOPEhope Mirage gets to publish it someday

*Scandia* · 10-19-2007, 04:52 AM

The Animus War is one of my favorite Archie storylines. I like the heroine. I like the setting. This is one arc that they can adapt into the 2k3 cartoon without resorting to other mutants or changing the main premise.

And what was published first- Souls Winter or Animus War?

Jon · 10-19-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

And what was published first- Souls Winter or Animus War?

A quick check of ninjaturtles.com shows "Souls Winter" was first printed in 1990 and "Animus War" in 1994.

darthsmozers · 10-30-2007, 09:31 AM

Info on the Forever War can be found at: http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2...rever-war.html

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 11-01-2007, 06:52 PM

Cool! So it looks like things are back on as far as it being released? It keeps getting planned and then cancelled, planned and then cancelled, let's hope this one sticks!

Plus...a trade of TMNT Adventures? More awesome news. Ideally, I'd like to see all the old Mirage and Archie stuff reprinted again, but then again...Mirage probably doesn't have the same resources as Marvel. One can dream (and chase down old issues) I guess.

*Raph's Girl* · 11-01-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Cool! So it looks like things are back on as far as it being released? It keeps getting planned and then cancelled, planned and then cancelled, let's hope this one sticks!

Plus...a trade of TMNT Adventures? More awesome news. Ideally, I'd like to see all the old Mirage and Archie stuff reprinted again, but then again...Mirage probably doesn't have the same resources as Marvel. One can dream (and chase down old issues) I guess.

Aye... expect Forever War to be out in 2009 along with TPB's of the Archie series. This is one of the many things being done for the 25th annaversary.

As for seeing the old Mirage stuff in reprint. There's many reprints of Vol 1 out now. Most of Vol 1 is in TPB.... Tales of the TMNT vol 2 is in TPB format.... Tales vol 1 will be someday (they're having some problems with it tho).

U can still buy copies of the Mirage and Archie books thru the official site too.

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/catalog.htm

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 11-01-2007, 08:09 PM

I tracked down copies of the colorized Vol. 1 trades not to long ago. I've also gotten books 2-5 of the Mirage trades as well. I also have a trade of the first 5 Image issues that I found a long time ago.

As someone becoming more interested in the Mirage turtles, what would the next step be? To start getting the Tales vol. 2 trades?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 11-02-2007, 09:18 AM

Maybe Krang apperars. Are these stories written now or in 1995?

*VaughnMichael* · 11-02-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Johan Sweden 1982

Maybe Krang apperars. Are these stories written now or in 1995?

He very well may, and they take place in the archie series not mirage and I'm pretty sure it takes place in the archie future world but shredder keeps bringing the turtles enimies from all over time back to haunt them.

*Raph's Girl* · 11-02-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Johan Sweden 1982

Maybe Krang apperars. Are these stories written now or in 1995?

Krang was never an integral character in the Archie series. Neither really were Rocksteady and BeBop. All 3 characters left after issue 15. Rocksteady and BeBop have their own world.

I know Shredder's in it...maybe perhaps Hitler, Armagen, and Null? Dunno... Ninjara's in it...that's all I care really.

*gobo* · 11-02-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

I know Shredder's in it...maybe perhaps Hitler, Armagen, and Null? Dunno... Ninjara's in it...that's all I care really.

Putrescent sure does love that Armagen.

*Scandia* · 11-02-2007, 04:16 PM

Personally, I want to see more of Golani. "The Animus War" has been my favorite arc so far.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-02-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Putrescent sure does love that Armagen.

I love how I get made fun of yet Raphs Girl said it wrong..shesus.

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Personally, I want to see more of Golani. "The Animus War" has been my favorite arc so far.

I'm pretty sure she is in from the art that was shown.

darthsmozers · 11-16-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Krang was never an integral character in the Archie series. Neither really were Rocksteady and BeBop. All 3 characters left after issue 15. Rocksteady and BeBop have their own world.

I know Shredder's in it...maybe perhaps Hitler, Armagen, and Null? Dunno... Ninjara's in it...that's all I care really.

I know you mean issue #25

hehe

darthsmozers · 11-16-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Johan Sweden 1982

Maybe Krang apperars. Are these stories written now or in 1995?

The original cover art was drafted back in the day, although a fully scripted story was not yet ready. More or less, the covers were used as the basis for the evolving story. With the cancellation of the series, the amount of detail put on paper is anyone's guess. The story is being written now ("now" meaning over a period of time where we've seen cancellations and approvals come and go for this project, lol), as Dean Clarrain is scripting and Chris Allan will return to the pencils.

Hope that helps

10-02-2007, 11:12 AM	#1
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	Forever War I don't know if there has been a thread made for this but I figured I'd make one because I had an interesting thought... So I'm reading Terracide (probably one of the saddest moments in TMNT history), and Future Don mentioned something... he said that their younger selves had just come back from their first battle with Animus. Archie never had a second battle or any other battles for taht matter against Animus. So maybe Animus comes back? Maybe Mutanimals make a return as enemies but then become allies? Who knows, but just a thought...

10-02-2007, 01:57 PM	#3
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	That can't be the encounter their talking about because the Future TMNT are in Forever War. So if they see Animus again that would be their third encounter. I'm pretty sure the plot of Forever War is Shredder uses the Time Slip to pull the turtles deadliest enemies from all over their timeline. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

10-19-2007, 04:52 AM	#7
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	The Animus War is one of my favorite Archie storylines. I like the heroine. I like the setting. This is one arc that they can adapt into the 2k3 cartoon without resorting to other mutants or changing the main premise. And what was published first- Souls Winter or Animus War? __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

11-02-2007, 09:18 AM	#13
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Krang Maybe Krang apperars. Are these stories written now or in 1995?

11-02-2007, 04:16 PM	#17
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Personally, I want to see more of Golani. "The Animus War" has been my favorite arc so far. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

10-02-2007, 11:38 AM	#2
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Good observation. Perhaps in Forever War he gets unshrunk? We don't know much about Forever War or who all are involved (other than Shredder, the TMNT, and Ninjara). Perhaps Animus is in it as well? There's another encounter with Animus in Michael Zulli's Soul's Winter trillogy in the Mirage book (vol 1). Splinter summons a different version of him to heal the turtles. But Animus also appears several times in sci-fi/fantasy: Doctor Who, he's identified as one of the Lovecraftian old ones, he was an intelligent megazord in Power Rangers Wild Force, a Greek band..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animus (wikipedia doesn't list the TMNT character) __________________

10-03-2007, 08:17 AM	#4
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	Then what would keep the Future TMNT from using the timeslip to pull versions of themselves from all over the timeline?

10-18-2007, 11:14 PM	#6
NinjaFootClan75 New Recruit Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 3	Aww, man I loved the Archie series! Sad when it was ended. I remember reading about Clairren(sp?) & Allen were working on the Forever War, in the back of Tales a while back, can't recall which iss, thou.... HopeHOPEhope Mirage gets to publish it someday

10-30-2007, 09:31 AM	#9
darthsmozers Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,277	Info on the Forever War can be found at: http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2...rever-war.html

11-01-2007, 06:52 PM	#10
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	Cool! So it looks like things are back on as far as it being released? It keeps getting planned and then cancelled, planned and then cancelled, let's hope this one sticks! Plus...a trade of TMNT Adventures? More awesome news. Ideally, I'd like to see all the old Mirage and Archie stuff reprinted again, but then again...Mirage probably doesn't have the same resources as Marvel. One can dream (and chase down old issues) I guess.

11-01-2007, 08:09 PM	#12
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	I tracked down copies of the colorized Vol. 1 trades not to long ago. I've also gotten books 2-5 of the Mirage trades as well. I also have a trade of the first 5 Image issues that I found a long time ago. As someone becoming more interested in the Mirage turtles, what would the next step be? To start getting the Tales vol. 2 trades?