Are we going to see Leo further his training with the ninja tribunal? (re: FF)
 

I know the stuff in 'the journal' was made up by Splinter and Cody, but do you think that's going to be a potential glimpse into the future of the turtles? I think so.

I've always envisioned Leo furthering his training (with the ninja tribunal) and eventually becoming a ninja master, and later training other people in ninjitsu. It fits his personality. I think it happened in the comics, where Leo became a ninja master and started to train other people in the ways of ninjitsu.

I've also envisioned Don helping April and Casey to form O'Neil Tech, Mikey eventually becoming a comic book writer, and Raph maybe going into wrestling or something? That stuff also fits into the individual personality of the turtles.

I think it would be a natural progression for the turtles to grow up, kinda go their separate ways and do their own thing. Yet, they are still close. They won't be kids, forever.

I am not saying it should happen in season seven, but it would be interesting if it happened towards the end of the series.

One could hope they keep with the continuity, and don't forget past characters.

I personally hope to see a return of -

- The Justice Force
- Usagi and Gen
- Leatherhead
- Bishop and Stockman
- Karai, Chaplin and the Foot
- Garbageman and the homeless dudes
- Angel, Casey, April and Sid
- Touch and Go, Hun, Purple Dragons
- Klunk

There are more, but people get the point. There is no excuse to forget the past characters just so they can focus on keeping people watching, by changing the theme of every season. I miss episodes pre FF where episodes felt like they had depth and character. FF while fun, didn't feel at all like 2k3, and didn't feel as slow paced.

Being a screenwriter, I kind of wished I had my hand at the TMNT brand. Had I had the money to have any say so, I'd keep this show on the air as long as Power Rangers has been on, but would keep to the code that you don't ditch characters so you can visit Cyberspace every episode (which I hope some episodes take place out of Cyberspace.)

In the Image series he was a romance novelist. :lol:

Well, i doubt their gonna choose to separate the turtles in the cartoon series, the Tribunal thing I'd say is done, they served their purpose with that...and the training other people in ninjitsu bit, the turtles already did that with Cody, though they might do it again.

They actually did that in the original series tho. Splinter left them cuz he thought he had taught them enough (so he just flat out abandoned em! ) and the turtles went their seperate ways. Don got a job at a fix it store, Raph became a clown for kid's parties, Mike became a tv cook on the Food Network, and Leo continued fighting crime (till he seemingly "died"). This happened in an ep. I forget which season tho.

Yeah, they also did in the new series with the Reality Check, Across the Universe, SAINW, and Real World eps. I meant I don't think they'll separate them for long-term periods. That episode by the way was Splinter Vanishes, season 4.

Nope. leonardo actually worked as a aerobics instructor for a bunch of reallygigantic overweight women in seatsuits. it stuck with me because they named it "Rosanne's Gym" Wocka Wocka Wocka.

But he really didn't leave them, did he? He came back later, and they also faced Leatherhead and Rat King teaming up in that episode.

Yeap, Splinter did come back. It was one of my most faviorite epsidoes of the old TMNT.

Also, I think it would be cool to see the guys go their sepearate ways for a while. THey did that in the comics and then they came back together. I really LOVE leo and I think it would be great to see him continue his training.

Wearing an all black costume? :p

It was not serious training with Cody. The turtles are not done training themselves.

I think them going their seperate ways towads the end of the series would be realistic, because the four all have different interests and different personalities. They can't be together all the time. IMO, they should have their own lives. They can't remain teenagers forever.

People have different lives and yet are close everyday. So the turtles going their separate ways and living their own lives would be a natural progression with their characters. This did happen in the comics.

Leo going higher in his training to the point where he becomes a ninja master and starts training others in ninjitsu fits his personality. I think that's the only time we see the ninja tribunal again, is when and if they send for Leo so Leo can further his training and become a ninja master. He's always wanted to better himself and since he's very dedicated and has a personality that's closest to Splinter's, I can easily see him becoming a ninja master and passing on the legacy that started with the tribunal themselves, than went to the ancient one, than to Yoshi, than to Splinter, and than to the turtles. I believe this did happen in the comics, where Leo becomes a ninja master and even trains other people.

Don helping April and Casey to establish O'Neil tech fits his personality as well. Don is a genius and its already been said in FF that Don helps to get O'Neil Tech off the ground.

Mikey loves comic books and it would be realistic to see him becoming a comic book writer, somewhat like what happened in the comics.

Raph would do something radical, like becoming a wrestler or something. Or he could go to Japan and hang out with Joi.

You just described the way the series should end. That's perfect.

Maybe so, but the fact still remains the turtles aren't like ordinary people, and closeness does happen between family members and friends whether they live together or separately, but when a family's lives have a daily routine of fighting to stay alive and protect innocents as well as each other, that tends to develop a much stronger closeness than is normal, plus the turtles differences in personality play of each other, that's part of what makes it watchable. The "team and family" theme is the best part of the turtles in my opinion. I'm more than certain they're be more individual eps to come, but I honestly think permanently putting each turtle on a separate ledger is unlikely. The comics may have separated them, but the last cartoon series & the movie series ended with them together. That thing with Cody, well not the most exciting thing in the series, but still a nice little accomplishment on their part...and the thing about training, even if any were to become masters, a ninja can never really afford to be done with training.

And families who are close are not always together. The turtles all have different personalities and different interests. Their lives are not always going to revolve around each other.

The guys are not always going to be kids and Splinter will not always be able to protect them all the time. The time is going to come when the guys will grow up and eventually go their separate ways. Its just the way it is.

Just because fans may have sentimental issues in wanting the guys together all the time, it does not mean that's its going to happen. The guys will always be brothers. They will always be close. They will always be there for each other. At the same time, it does not mean that their entire lives have to always revolve around each other, either. They are allowed to have their own lives, just like the next person.

Besides, the series ending with the guys going their separate ways and doing their own thing would be a natural progression in their growth.

I brought up Leo training with the tribunal to become a master, because honestly, it fits his personality with him seeking to always learn, and never being satisfied with where he's at. He would definately want to pass down the legacy that pretty much started with the tribunal themselves, and went to the ancient one, to yoshi, to splinter, and to the turtles themselves.

While Don, Mike, and Raph will always be ninjas, they do have other interests as well as they should. Don is a genius, and Mikey could become a writer like he does in the comics. They shouldn't stop pursuing their own dreams for their brothers or anyone else. Don playing a huge role in O'Neil Tech being formed makes sense, with Don being a genius and always working with April or Leatherhead on inventions among other things.

This would be a fantastic ending to TMNT. The only medium in which I have seen something close to this be established would be in the Archie comics. In the future, Leo was a martial arts instructor, Donnie had a tech empire, and I do not remember what Raphael and Mikey did.

In fact, I think it would be a better ending than what is going on in Mirage right now.

Most likely not since Leo would be seperated from the others. And he would much rather be trained by the Ancient One than the Tribunal.

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I dont think so considering he wasnt in The Journal. Or maybe he just lives with them.

The Journal was written by Cody and Splinter to teach the turtles a lesson. It wasn't real.

Nevertheless, his absence is still strange.

absence from where?

This is just an idea for how the series could end. And yes, the turtles are going to to their own separate ways at some point. They all should have their own lives. They can still be close yet not live together. It would be a realistic progression in their growth as characters.

It was writtn by Cody and Splinter, but the turtles going their own way and Leo training to become a master could be a potential spoiler (or possible future) for the turtles.

However, I don't think the future will turn out to be dark like how it was described in that fake Journal, which was written by Cody and Splinter.

At the same time, I can really see Leo becoming a ninja master and training others in ninjitsu. I really could see Don helping to form O'Neil Tech and helping April and Casey run the business. It fits the personality of the individual characters. Again, this did happen in the comics, where Leo became a master and trained others, Don ran a tech business, and Mikey became a comic book writer or something. I can't remember what became of Raph.

Since the Ancient One does become apart of the ninja tribunal at the end of season five, Leo would naturally end up training with him, as well as training with Kon, Hisomi, Chikara, and Juto.

I dont remember seeing The Ancient One in The Journal along side the Tribunal. How could they include Nano with the Justice Force in the story but not include the Ancient One with the Tribunal? I'am not doubting the Ancient One is with them I'am doubting hes actually an official fifth member of the Tribunal.

He is the fifth member of the Tribunal. Just wait until the 13th episode of the lost season, and you'll see.

Besides, the "Journal" the turtles read is a fake. It was written by Cody and Splinter to teach the turtles a lesson.

Cody had the real Journal hidden away in his room.

Ah I see what you're saying. Although technically your stance is solid, I think you're reading too much in. FF was bad enough in terms in keeping with reality. Look at "timing is everything." Everything about that episode contradicts! :ohwell:
I'm sure the ancient one is a member. cody probably didn't know he was. Anyway, since there were no pictures in the journal, whose to say Splinter didn't have him in mind when he was writing it?

honestly, I would like to see Mikey step away from the superhero thing and pursue something else.

Well, while these theories are fine, to say they are going to separate at some point...well, stating it that way sounds presumptious, there's no guarantees.

People who grow up together do naturally go their own separate ways at some point, and live their own lives. Its a natural progression in one's growth.

Do children live with their parents forever?

No, but there is such thing as cohabition and extended family. True, it's not always permanent and does put a restriction on freedom, but there's a lot of freedoms in the world the turtles couldn't afford any which way whatsoever.

More than you might think, but probably not in the current cartoon universe since the world is not the same as it is in vol 4. Leo07 has a point about them eventually going their own ways but the world in the current series is not ready for them to leave seclusion just yet.

Yeah, in Volume 4 the Turtles are in their mid-30s and

But in the current 2k3 cartoon episodes, the Turtles are still only around 18 and Master Splinter is still around. So there is no need really for them to go their own ways. I think that if they do that, it should be shown as the ending- kind of like the Archie comics did in the issues where they showed the Future Turtles.

Personally I wish they'd stop focusing so much on LEO! He has 3 other brothers who need some spotlight! It's not Adventures of Leo and his brothers.

How would Raph go into wrestling, he's not human; they'd figure it out pretty fast.

Other universes focused on the three other Turtles and often had Leo get the shaft. It was time for Leo to get the spotlight. For his leadership to not just be mentioned in passing- but for it to be shown what it is like to be the leader. I think 2k3 is a great medium to have Leonardo be on the spotlight. And I am not saying it just because Leo is my fave Turtle or 2k3 my fave universe.

watch the movies, it is pretty much Raphael's world plus those three other guys in the movie mediums LOL ;)

I don't think they focus on Leo too much. He is the leader and therefore has a lot of responsibility. Besides in Fast Forward, they seemed to focus a lot on Mikey and Raph.

I didnt mean focus 100% on Raph :P
Why can't Don get more training? Why not focus with him?
Or Raphers? We seen Mike even get a little more. And Splinter Junior seems to get all the highest training of them all, WHY? Aren't the others worthy of such?

suuuure you didn't ;) :P

no kidding. Lets see Donatello warrior side explored more and less of his techno geek characteristics

I would like to see some good ol' Casey+Raph pair ups and see them tackle some urban story lines with gangs. Mayber show more of Raph compassinate/sweet heart side some more instead of the eternally constipated grouchy Raph we've been treated to lately.

I've already made my thought known on Mikey...more eveolution over-all would be nice and less tantrum prone moments :roll:

yeah I'd like to see a mature Mikey.