The TV shows
 

On the official website I can not find one picture of Venus. I know people are gonna say"thats cause she sucked" but i likd her. Does anyone hve pictures that ued to be on there of her?(not in live action but drawn?)

and Zach from the cartoon is really cool. Is he in the comics? Anyone have pictures of him? Didnt h turn into a turtle? pics?

Well, I think a lot of the pictures of her that used to be on the site were moved here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/venusdemiloclub/
Yeah, you gotta sign up to see the pictures, but it is free.

You could also try and do a google image search for pics:
http://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&ta...-8&oe=UTF-8&q=

As for Zach, no, he wasn't in the comics, nor was he turned into a turtle. Try the google search for pictures.

Yeah Venus has been erased.

:o

What was the point of having a female Ninja Turtle?

There is no point. They were forced into it, and Since Peter Laird got the sole ownership of the TMNT, Venus has been erased.

Venus has been erased from memory... much like the god-awful Star Wars Christmas Special.

Star Wars Christmas special?

She wasn't even a ninja to begin with.

as far as zach
 

As far as Zach... he was the "origional" 5th turtle...except he was just a little boy who dressed up like one. It was kinda the old shows way of joking about the fans wanting to "grow up and be ninja turtles"
:nod:

how was laird forced into having a female ninja turtle?

Let's see:

It was on Fox...
Saban made it...
Parents wanted him to be politically correct...
Yada yada yada....

While only one of those answer might explain it, you get the picture.

EDIT: Wait a minute, who am I talking about now? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes they were saying that If there is no Female turtle, there won't be a show. Well Laird didn't have much to do with the show, Eastman did that. Laird was really disapointed about Next Mutation, and So after buing the ownership, Venus was erased for eternity.

heh
 

Heh. I wouldn't call ANY of the characters on Next Mutation 'ninja'.

Now, the new TMNT animated series is a different story.....

Yeah there is actually stealth included. Very Nice.

Heh, there was a PC thing involved. They probably wanted to appeal to the girls watching the show, since girls never really had a role model in TMNT aside from April.

I think she had potential, and you can't say that no fan would want a female turtle to exist because there are more female mutant turtles out there in the fandom than you can shake a stick at. I don't think she would have worked well in any TMNT-verse other than TNM (or maybe TMNT Letters), but there are plenty of other characters out there that were only in one universe and didn't need to be "erased".

Wonder how much it would cost to buy her character rights from Peter...

Re: The TV shows
 

ok, i stand corrected, one picture of venus is on the site

Venus
 

Venus is actually the one reason I didn't like TNM.
I know that sounds SO harsh. It wasn't that I didn't like her...but that I didn't like the concept. Her back story seemed so far-fetched and stretched that it was FORCED.

I guess that was symbolic of how her existance was forced to begin with.

I like the idea of having the Turtles not being able to reproduce...but IF you had to have them reproduce I think there are better ways to go about it than to shove a long lost female turtle who JUST happend to know martal arts into the glass bowl. [Now...if that makes your head shake...(because in theory it would mine) feel free to PM me and I'll go into detail.]

The concept of venus is alright...in my opinion she would have had to be there from the start...else she is too forced...and that's why I didn't like her.

Just my thoughts though...no need to agree!

Shadow Jones

yea, I agree, her history was a little weak. Who is to saythat there is only four mutant turtles on earth though?How did all the other animls get affected, certently they were not allin the same placeat the same time. If they went with that approach for Venus I belive it could have worked. Maybe she needs a second chance. Fan comic anyone?

Hey, I never said the character was perfect. The idea for a female turtle was okay, but the backstory created by Saban, and in fact the entire way she was protrayed on the show, was horrid. However, coincedences do happen in real life, and things like that do fall into place. What confused me was haow she got from China to New York in less than a night! (I say she struck a deal with a demon, who will later come back for payment. Reminds me, gotta finish that fic.)

As a matter of fact, I'm playing around with the idea for a fan comic with Venus and the Dragonlord. Based on the TMNT Letters (which, BTW, were a hell of a lot better than TNM) the Dragonlord reaches out from his prison to pull Venus from her world to his (hence why she "dissapears" for the official universe.)

There are some pretty good fan fics out there already with a good portrayal of Venus.

How about evil Lord Lairdos trying to erase every piece of evidence about her existence.... :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh my God, I think you've just inspired me Karpo. I'm gonna go write a fanfic based on that right now!

Heh! :lol:

Or how about a story where there was a parallel universe where the TMNT were all female, and Krang ended up bringing them together somehow.

Hmm, there already is a fan parody where the Turtles are all girls. TMKT, Teenage Mutant Kung-Fu Turtles, by Amandatello. I always thought a crossover between that and an official universe would be cool.

I think a female Mutant Cat would be cool... but then again.. of course I would ^^

I Finally got the AVI of East meets West to work, and yeah I dun like Venus, for the reasons Shadow mentioned.. way to forced.

i agree with Kali the idea of her was alright... but there were far better ways to do it...I know it wasn't larid's fault...believe me he would have figured out a better way!

VENUS WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!! :wink:

I dunno, she never bothered me. It's already a show about talking humanoid turtles, folks -- I could care less about the sex of 'em. Plus didn't she drive Shredder insane? Not even SPLINTA could do that! Oh Venus, we <3 you.

Quick question: Can anyone see the image in anarchistguy's sig? On page 1.

And Kali: Hey, I just checked out your artwork. Awesome stuff. I really like your Shredder drawings...the head looks a little flat, somehow, but there's something about it that just looks cool. I dunno! Rock on. :)

Gyah! it's like return of the dead threads!

Dude, this threads last post was a year ago! Mon Feb 17, 2003

Whoa, holy crap! You're absolutely right. I was looking at the date, but I didn't see the year.

Well. How the hell did I get here?

Oh, right, following the image referrals in the logs. Sorry about that, GK!

That's alright, I think for now I'll leave it open incase anyone has anything they'd like to add. ya never know :)

Well, before this page is buried again, Thanks.

When the NM was on of course i only seen 2 scenes of one episode.(I can't put a good reason why I never seen much of the live action show).

In the beginning I don't remenber seeing Venus before on the show. So I just read the info of NM on the internet a year ago. So I just know that she's raised in China for 17 years and has magical powers.

I blame Laird for the live action to become a flop. Since he didn't have much control on TMNT back then.

Atleast 5 years after NM got cancel there comes the new show with a more successful idea.

I might never of seen much of the NM. Too bad there won't be any chances for it to be released on DVD either. Oh well.

Perhaps she used her mystic powers to teleport herself to America...

Me personally, if I only had a Venus mini figure I'd shoot a TMNT lego animation starring her. I'd love to see Venus in the new show, if only Laird would give her the chance...

Kali: I'm guessing you wrote that fanfic a while ago (assuming you finished it?), but are you saying that your fanfic is based on the TMNT letters or that Venus's disappearance was actually explained in them in this way? And I'm assuming you mean the letters on the website, right?

Speaking of which, does anyone know the e-mail address that they used to have for Venus? I wonder if you'd get a reply if you tried to contact her...

Oh, Venus! We will never forget you.

Don't think so. Based on what she's done magic-wise through the rest of the series, she simply isn't advanced enough for that kind of spell.

Well it's a good theory though...

What the shell do you think Shinobi means?

True, Shinobi is another word for ninja, but the principles behind her "art" weren't those of ninjutsu. Then again, neither were anything we saw the guys do, but that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish...