The TV shows

rayfillet101 · 02-16-2003, 03:07 PM

On the official website I can not find one picture of Venus. I know people are gonna say"thats cause she sucked" but i likd her. Does anyone hve pictures that ued to be on there of her?(not in live action but drawn?)

and Zach from the cartoon is really cool. Is he in the comics? Anyone have pictures of him? Didnt h turn into a turtle? pics?

**Kali** · 02-16-2003, 03:17 PM

Well, I think a lot of the pictures of her that used to be on the site were moved here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/venusdemiloclub/
Yeah, you gotta sign up to see the pictures, but it is free.

You could also try and do a google image search for pics:
http://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&ta...-8&oe=UTF-8&q=

As for Zach, no, he wasn't in the comics, nor was he turned into a turtle. Try the google search for pictures.

**Karpo_007** · 02-16-2003, 03:18 PM

Yeah Venus has been erased.

Sparvid · 02-16-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kali

/venusdemiloclub/

*That Matt Guy* · 02-16-2003, 05:12 PM

What was the point of having a female Ninja Turtle?

**Karpo_007** · 02-16-2003, 05:51 PM

There is no point. They were forced into it, and Since Peter Laird got the sole ownership of the TMNT, Venus has been erased.

*Eye of Sarnath* · 02-16-2003, 06:55 PM

Venus has been erased from memory... much like the god-awful Star Wars Christmas Special.

*That Matt Guy* · 02-16-2003, 07:29 PM

Star Wars Christmas special?

*Anarchistguy* · 02-16-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138

What was the point of having a female Ninja Turtle?

She wasn't even a ninja to begin with.

Shadow · 02-16-2003, 09:06 PM

As far as Zach... he was the "origional" 5th turtle...except he was just a little boy who dressed up like one. It was kinda the old shows way of joking about the fans wanting to "grow up and be ninja turtles"

BigThew · 02-16-2003, 09:07 PM

how was laird forced into having a female ninja turtle?

~~Reznorite420~~ · 02-16-2003, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigThew

how was laird forced into having a female ninja turtle?

Let's see:

It was on Fox...
Saban made it...
Parents wanted him to be politically correct...
Yada yada yada....

While only one of those answer might explain it, you get the picture.

EDIT: Wait a minute, who am I talking about now?

**Karpo_007** · 02-17-2003, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigThew

how was laird forced into having a female ninja turtle?

Yes they were saying that If there is no Female turtle, there won't be a show. Well Laird didn't have much to do with the show, Eastman did that. Laird was really disapointed about Next Mutation, and So after buing the ownership, Venus was erased for eternity.

*heretic888* · 02-17-2003, 09:37 AM

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She wasn't even a ninja to begin with.

Heh. I wouldn't call ANY of the characters on Next Mutation 'ninja'.

Now, the new TMNT animated series is a different story.....

**Karpo_007** · 02-17-2003, 10:21 AM

Yeah there is actually stealth included. Very Nice.

**Kali** · 02-17-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138

What was the point of having a female Ninja Turtle?

Heh, there was a PC thing involved. They probably wanted to appeal to the girls watching the show, since girls never really had a role model in TMNT aside from April.

I think she had potential, and you can't say that no fan would want a female turtle to exist because there are more female mutant turtles out there in the fandom than you can shake a stick at. I don't think she would have worked well in any TMNT-verse other than TNM (or maybe TMNT Letters), but there are plenty of other characters out there that were only in one universe and didn't need to be "erased".

Wonder how much it would cost to buy her character rights from Peter...

~~Reznorite420~~ · 02-17-2003, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rayfillet101

On the official website I can not find one picture of Venus.

You were saying?

rayfillet101 · 02-17-2003, 01:14 PM

ok, i stand corrected, one picture of venus is on the site

Shadow · 02-17-2003, 01:21 PM

Venus is actually the one reason I didn't like TNM.
I know that sounds SO harsh. It wasn't that I didn't like her...but that I didn't like the concept. Her back story seemed so far-fetched and stretched that it was FORCED.

I guess that was symbolic of how her existance was forced to begin with.

I like the idea of having the Turtles not being able to reproduce...but IF you had to have them reproduce I think there are better ways to go about it than to shove a long lost female turtle who JUST happend to know martal arts into the glass bowl. [Now...if that makes your head shake...(because in theory it would mine) feel free to PM me and I'll go into detail.]

The concept of venus is alright...in my opinion she would have had to be there from the start...else she is too forced...and that's why I didn't like her.

Just my thoughts though...no need to agree!

Shadow Jones

rayfillet101 · 02-17-2003, 01:32 PM

yea, I agree, her history was a little weak. Who is to saythat there is only four mutant turtles on earth though?How did all the other animls get affected, certently they were not allin the same placeat the same time. If they went with that approach for Venus I belive it could have worked. Maybe she needs a second chance. Fan comic anyone?

02-16-2003, 03:07 PM	#1
rayfillet101 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 1,454	The TV shows On the official website I can not find one picture of Venus. I know people are gonna say"thats cause she sucked" but i likd her. Does anyone hve pictures that ued to be on there of her?(not in live action but drawn?) and Zach from the cartoon is really cool. Is he in the comics? Anyone have pictures of him? Didnt h turn into a turtle? pics? __________________ "When you scream my name, pleading for the pain to stop, you may call me...Bishop."

02-16-2003, 06:55 PM	#7
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	Venus has been erased from memory... much like the god-awful Star Wars Christmas Special. __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

02-16-2003, 09:06 PM	#10
Shadow Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 489	as far as zach As far as Zach... he was the "origional" 5th turtle...except he was just a little boy who dressed up like one. It was kinda the old shows way of joking about the fans wanting to "grow up and be ninja turtles"

02-17-2003, 01:14 PM	#18
rayfillet101 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 1,454	ok, i stand corrected, one picture of venus is on the site __________________ "When you scream my name, pleading for the pain to stop, you may call me...Bishop."

02-17-2003, 01:21 PM	#19
Shadow Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 489	Venus Venus is actually the one reason I didn't like TNM. I know that sounds SO harsh. It wasn't that I didn't like her...but that I didn't like the concept. Her back story seemed so far-fetched and stretched that it was FORCED. I guess that was symbolic of how her existance was forced to begin with. I like the idea of having the Turtles not being able to reproduce...but IF you had to have them reproduce I think there are better ways to go about it than to shove a long lost female turtle who JUST happend to know martal arts into the glass bowl. [Now...if that makes your head shake...(because in theory it would mine) feel free to PM me and I'll go into detail.] The concept of venus is alright...in my opinion she would have had to be there from the start...else she is too forced...and that's why I didn't like her. Just my thoughts though...no need to agree! Shadow Jones

02-16-2003, 03:17 PM	#2
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Well, I think a lot of the pictures of her that used to be on the site were moved here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/venusdemiloclub/ Yeah, you gotta sign up to see the pictures, but it is free. You could also try and do a google image search for pics: http://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&ta...-8&oe=UTF-8&q= As for Zach, no, he wasn't in the comics, nor was he turned into a turtle. Try the google search for pictures.

02-16-2003, 03:18 PM	#3
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah Venus has been erased.

02-16-2003, 05:12 PM	#5
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	What was the point of having a female Ninja Turtle?

02-16-2003, 05:51 PM	#6
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	There is no point. They were forced into it, and Since Peter Laird got the sole ownership of the TMNT, Venus has been erased.

02-16-2003, 07:29 PM	#8
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Star Wars Christmas special?

02-16-2003, 09:07 PM	#11
BigThew Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 574	how was laird forced into having a female ninja turtle?

02-17-2003, 10:21 AM	#15
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah there is actually stealth included. Very Nice.

02-17-2003, 01:32 PM	#20
rayfillet101 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 1,454	yea, I agree, her history was a little weak. Who is to saythat there is only four mutant turtles on earth though?How did all the other animls get affected, certently they were not allin the same placeat the same time. If they went with that approach for Venus I belive it could have worked. Maybe she needs a second chance. Fan comic anyone? __________________ "When you scream my name, pleading for the pain to stop, you may call me...Bishop."