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Turtles: Dawn of the Ninja - Fan comic
Hey guys, it's Luke from Dawn of the Ninja. Incase you haven't already heard, the graphic novel is officially in the works!!! Visit our website for updates or follow @TMNTmovie for information as it becomes available.
Looking forward to showing off what we are working on! I hope you guys are as excited as we are about this! It's like a dream come true, Steve and I never imagined we would make it this far when we started the project back in 2005. We wouldn't have made it without the support of the fans! Thanks! http://www.DawnoftheNinja.com First concept art Leonardo concept sketch Shredder concept sketch Turtles concept sketch Leonardo concept art Raphael concept art Michelangelo concept art Donatello concept art Splinter concept art Oroku Saki concept art Baxter Stockman concept art Human Bebop and Rocksteady concept art |
What graphic novel?
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We would NEVER attempt to make money off anything we have done without obtaining the proper licensing. Obviously we would "HOPE to sell it in a store"... but that doesn't mean we will get the licensing.
I HOPE they let me direct Transformers 3.... I HOPE I win the lottery tomorrow.... I HOPE people will stop attacking our love for TMNT and desire to make it awesome...... But this is reality, we don't always get what we hope for, but that won't stop us from trying. |
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This project has been one of the most exciting things I have ever done in my life (aside from marrying my wife, that's still ranks #1) And if Steve ever gets married, I'm sure he would agree too =). |
Check the site now, hopefully that satisfies those who.... don't seem to understand that this is a fan project.
Man, what a fun thread! I think this is the most I have ever used a forum in my life.... thanks for the entertainment! :D |
Hey, everyone!!
I'm the artist of the graphic novel. I'm SO excited to be a part of this. Been a huge Turtles fan all my life and getting that chance to do a different take on them is incredible. Taking the characters seriously! It's going to be intense! I'm going to try my best to represent them in a great new way. I hope I can make at least some of you happy! No it isn't official. But we do hope to change that. Is it a far-fetched dream? Definitely, but it's still worth shooting for the stars! I'm sure we're all the same, and we want to see the Turtles done right! Plus, it's just great to have more Turtles content out there! Worst case scenario, we have a lot of fun making a Turtles Graphic novel and, I believe, most fans will love it! (obviously not everyone) And what's really cool about the http://www.TURTLESthemovie.com website, Luke is giving artists and fans of the Turtles a chance to showcase their artwork. That means YOU!! Right now, one of my favorite Turtles fan artists has a ton of his stuff on there! You have to check out Erik Arreaga Go to the Fan Art page: http://turtlesthemovie.com/fanart.php And yes, YOU can submit your art to us, too! We'd LOVE to see it. The more the merrier! So, let's get the POSITIVE energy flowing here! We're making a TURTLES Graphic Novel, people!!! It's going to be rad!! You're going to get to see pages and pages of art and story! I'll be posting progress everyday on my Twitter, which also updates my Twitter and MySpace, so if you're interested, follow me and be a part of the creation. I DO read all replies and WILL be listening to your thoughts and opinions. Oh, and just to set the record straight from what was said above: I'M a comic industry professional and I'm not laughing. And also, I'm a fan of the project and I DO REALLY hope we get the license. Now, we don't want to confuse people or get their hopes up too high with the site, so yeah, maybe a banner saying it's a fan-based project is a good idea. Luke, I'm sure you can design it and make it look good without it taking anything away from the professional design. Anyway, here is my first QUICK sketch of Leo! http://www.goldengoatstudios.com/pri...rtles/Leo2.jpg I look forward to talking with all of you and getting to know each other. ***** Updated to put 1st page of comic on 1st page of thread http://www.goldengoatstudios.com/pri...lesDawn-01.jpg |
I love the whole mood of the concept art and the site.
Way excited for the graphic novel to be completed. Plus if it releases without the "Official Stamp", whats the difference between this and Dōjinshi? |
I say we are all about to get a falcon pwnch from 'You know who' in 3, 2, 1...
Anyway, people who want to knock it down and treat the project like toxic waste give me the creeps. I feel that those who don't support the project are trying to be smart (Not working much, what are you gonna get for it, favor from Nick?) and some just don't have the guts. Now that we have established proper terms, laying out specifically this is a fan project, is it possible to just lay off? Or shall we continue? Really this is pointless, this project is continuing without most of you whether you like it or not. In the very least appreciate effort, that's more than what you've been doing. |
Seems to me like you're pretending to be the upcoming movie. Not knocking anything about the project, most of your ideas are pretty clever. |
yeeeeah with the greenscreened 'trailer poster' & fake reporter...
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Yeah, the site is labeled a "fan-project" NOW, after several people have said something regarding the original deception.
I kind of doubted the legitimacy after reading over several sections of the site several weeks ago. Not to say that I dislike the ideas. I hope one day your projects will become legitimate and then you can laugh in everyone's faces. |
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Considering we have zero budget and everyone volunteered their time... I am in no way disappointed with the production quality of the interview. |
I don't believe it was ever Luke's intention to "pretend" to be the real movie or mislead anyone.
We are professionals who are taking this as seriously as if it were a green-lit official project. Just because it looks as good as if it were official doesn't mean we're being dishonest, it just means that YOU (we) the fans are getting a FAN project that's serious, quality, and will hopefully grab attention of people who CAN make it official. Anyone seen the JAMES POTTER series? http://www.elderscrossing.com/ Started as a MUCH more misleading fan-site, became at least an approved project by JK Rowling and WB as a free release fan project. What gives some Hollywood exec more rights to present their project in a quality way? Because he paid thousands to buy the license? No way! That's all business nonsense. We as fans have more right to represent this project than any exec because we really CARE about these characters and how they are represented. We're not just trying to make a buck. Again, until this becomes official we are NOT selling anything. That would be illegal. We will attempt to get the license or work with someone who does have it. And, as I said before, if nothing else, we'll have some fun, new Turtles content on the web for everyone (who wants to) to enjoy! |
And yes, we wrote this with the intent to become a foundation for the next TMNT movie.
We have some good friends in the industry (who I will leave anonymous) who have been introducing us to key people and generally just helping us along the way. The possibility is actually there, but as of this moment, we are not on board. We would love to be, but that is simply not the case at this time. And if all else fails, we will still have some of the most incredible TMNT related artwork on the net thanks to Ray. |
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No. That's what gives them the right to MAKE MONEY off of a property.
Creating content, using it for proposals and showing it on the web as a fan project is perfectly legal. |
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Who cares what these guys do with their project? That is why it is their project. You aren't financing anything, you won't be paying lawyer fees, so who cares? At this point in time they are not the basis for the new TMNT flick, they have a 50/50 shot of getting it. Either they do or don't simple as that. So let them do what they want to do and you do you. I think their site is f**king boss and a million times better than old school geocities pages. I don't see why everyone has to crap their pants about what these guys do in their own time. Many of you said you respect the project and think its a great idea but just can't get over the fact that they want it to be backed by a studio.... WHO CARES!!!
And if you are one of the posters that think what these guys are doing is illegal, let's not forget about all the dvr to internet transfers that happened a few weeks ago... :evilgrin: Keep the project going guys, it looks fantastic and I cannot wait for more updates for the novel and the movie. -ms |
If this puts some of your minds at ease, I have worked on many licenses properties before and I know a lot about copyrighted materials.
For instance, right now, my wife and I are doing a LICENSED adaptation of the novel "The Last Unicorn" for IDW Publishing. It is directly licensed from the author Peter S. Beagle. You can read about that here: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/11/17...rn-comic-book/ We're also working with Jennifer Love Hewitt on "Music Box" again for IDW. Read about that here: http://www.comicbox.com/index.php/ne...music-box-idw/ IDW Publishing is one of the leading licensed property publishers out there and we're working with them on tons of stuff. I recently worked on GI JOE, Transformers, DC Comics (title tba), Marvel Comics (title tba). I've personally negotiated a licensing agreement with a few authors, including Brian Lumley and companies like King Features Syndicate. I know you're seeing this as a fan attempt to do something and copyright issues are confusing, but please trust me, we know what we're doing. |
EVERYONE RELAX!! :D
Let's sit back and see some Turtle art, huh? I mean, I have to create it first, but YEAH! And in the mean time, go check out some of the awesome fan art that Luke has posted: http://www.turtlesthemovie.com/fanart.php TURTLES!!!! |
:) Your ambition for this project is admirable! Good luck, from one tmnt fan to another. I look forward to seeing what you guys come up with.
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"As of today, a graphic novel is officially in the works. We are still in the process of negotiating our contract, but I expect production to begin shortly" |
I'm starting a new concept painting tonight and hope to have it done in a few days! It's a piece of Turtles history that hasn't been elaborated on. Lots of high emotion. I'll see about posting sketches and progress.
Oh, and I'll also be adding video of the work on my YouTube Channel: http://www.YouTube.com/raydillon So, subscribe, or watch the site, twitter, these forums, etc. and I'll try to get that up soon as well. |
I think I'm staying out of arguement territory, but I wanted to say I enjoy the youtube digital painting videos.
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First off, please note that the criticism below is meant to be taken constructively.
As someone who has spent the last 5 years of his career helping to grow and protect intellectual properties for the largest entertainment company in the world; The one thing I would caution against is arrogance. Quote:
The fact is that fanfiction is a derivative work, and as such, the license holders have every right in the world to control the distribution of your product. Can they then take it and use it themselves? No. The events; fictional locations; additional characters; and so on, belong to you. But again, they can force you to cease distribution. WOULD they control your distribution? Probably not...unless they either thought you were cutting into their profits significantly, or simply want to make an example out of you. Which again...arrogance and insults may make you a perfect candidate for that. Next, a word on trademark violation. Each of these viacom characters are also registered trademarks. Trademark infringement can be claimed when a "likelyhood of confusion" can be shown. This means that your work cannot confuse the consumer into thinking that your product is a legitimate work of the first party. While I agree that there is nothing wrong with having high production values, things like that interview CLEARLY emulate a legitimate "Hollywood Blockbuster" interview, which could definately be cited as likelyhood of confusion. So while yes, i think your work SHOULD be as wonderful and professional as you would like it to be... you are treading a very thin line with the style in which you are presenting some of your content. Lastly, I would like to say that I am behind this project 100%. And while I do think some of our veteran members could use a lesson in tact, they generally know what they are talking about, and their warnings should be taken to heart. Try not to take the attitudes to heart though...being "the new guys" can be tough around these parts. |
I say Rock On!
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We get it. You're big time.
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Dude, if I was trying to show off, I'd find someone better than that. And I'd find a movie better than "Something' Wrong in Kansas." You remember that movie, right? Distributed by that one company. Won best picture last year. Yeah...
Think about it, man. You were ready to say something negative when you came in this thread. |
Holy crap, guys... Remind me to never post any fan art or fan fiction on this site.
I'm supporting this project entirely. There is nothing wrong with looking professional and chasing a dream. And, like they've said a thousand times, if it doesnt work out, we all get free(gorgeous) art work to look at and a new story to enjoy. The hells a matter with you people? Putting together a graphic novel is no small feat. I'm in the process of putting together 4 at a time and there are *so* many steps in the creation process that I was oblivious to before I started. Its hard work. Bottom line, these guys are passionate. They arent hurting anyone. They have posted on their website that it is a FAN PROJECT. What bothers me most about all of this is, they're doing it for us. For the fans. And some members here are just kicking the crap out of them for presenting their idea. And I'm not seeing the "arrogance" or "high horse" vibe in their posts. They just seem truly passionate and telling everyone to relax and enjoy. Why do so many people look for reasons to put others down these days? Lighten up guys. It has nothing to do with any of you personally. Geesh... Keep up the great work guys. I cant wait to see more :) |
I think You guys are doing a pretty bitchin job with the Art-work and the site presentation. I DON'T think it'sa good idea misleading people into thinking that you're making the Next TMNT movie, or pretending that it's official for giggle-sh*ts. Just saying.
I wish you the best and hopefully those people waiting to give you the I told you so never get their chance. Best of luck dudes. |
You doubt that Luke Keith can make this movie happen. Dude's doin' a 1-handed hand-stand! http://bit.ly/4pdTGK He can do anything!!! :D
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So much negativity in this thread... Ray you have impressive work and I think this graphic novel idea is something I'll look forward to seeing. Even if they don't get a licence if there is a good story to be told with fantastic art work even if only reased online as a fan work I think people could appreciate the effort and I think i'd enjoy it.
On the idea of the movie I can agree that I have thought that it is very possible that Viacom may change the idea Scott Mednick and Galen Walker had and not keep things close to the comics. I'd like to see an adaption that is gritty and follows the comics very closely. If we got a movie from them in the way they described wanting to do it at comic con I would be happy. With that said it seems it maybe similar to the idea they are trying to pitch with Dawn of the ninja turtles making it batman beginsish starting in Japan etc. I think that for the 2012 movie if they are still going the way they were they must have some sort of script and probably a good idea where they are headed and it probably wont change that much. I'll give you guys props for following the dream so to speak and being passionate about it. The site has good production values and the video interview as well. Although it may have seemed missleading getting the inside scoop on the movie in the interview at the beginging you admit you don't have the rights or anything so I don't see anything wrong with what your doing. If anything you will be able to tell a story with the graphic novel idea even if you guys don't get the chance to participate in the production new movie. I think chances are slim that you will get to be involved but its similar to what Christopher Johnson did by producing the Nightmare on elm street teaser as hope to be involved in the new movie following a dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxPmOP1_HIY) although he wanted to be the director. |
I appreciate those of you trying to keep things positive. Means a lot to us!!
Here's a new QUICK Shredder sketch. Not final design. Just getting warmed up: http://www.goldengoatstudios.com/pri...s/Shredder.jpg |
I dig that.
I'm a fan of digital painting style things, so I'm biased to that. |
Hey, Thanks! And me, too! Trying to decide which style to go with on this GN. Sleek digital painting? Rough, classic painting? Comic book illustrated? Somewhere in the middle?
Still feeling it out. What do you all think? What type of style would you like to see? |
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