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Andrew NDB 08-11-2010 01:35 PM

One Turtle has to die... you choose which
 
Hypothetical situation: a villain has a firing squad of machine gun-toting thugs trained on all four Turtles -- they Turtles are dead in their sights and there's no escape, not even for them.

The villain makes you an offer: Pick one Turtle to die and the other three will live. If you don't pick any, then all four Turtles will die.

For the sake of argument let's assume the villain will not attempt any kind of doublecross.

So... which Turtle should die, and why?

plastroncafe 08-11-2010 01:51 PM

Why?
Because no matter who I choose, he'll be the one most likely to dive out in front of the bullets to take them for his brothers.

shuriken 08-11-2010 01:51 PM

Raph. Mikey would become more driven to use his potential and even surpass Leo in terms of skill after Raph's death. Donnie is too important to let die in terms of his clear head, tech saviness and his uncanny ability to create sh*t out of garbage. Leo is the Leader and the most skilled of the four, killing him would demoralize the rest, even moreso than any of th other turtles dying. Without Raph they don't have their power forward so to speak, and eventually the team will fall without him, but his temper and his not wanting to be led attitude sometimes are a liabilty to the team. Tough call though. This is in the Mirage universe right? Cuz if it's 2k3 then I'd kill Mikey

Gyt Kaliba 08-11-2010 02:05 PM

I think regardless of canon (well, save for OT maybe, there I'd probably say it'd be Leo), it'd be Raph. Leo would be the one who'd say he's going to take the death, but then when Leo's about to be gunned down, Raph would knock him out of the way and take the bullets. Their dislike for each-other may run deep, but I suspect Raph's respect for Leo runs even deeper...or something.

I should clarify, this is my answer based on who WOULD die in the situation, not really who I'd pick personally. I can't really decide on the other way of looking at it.

Prowler 08-11-2010 05:12 PM

This is very hard since aach turtle is unique, so the loss of one would weaken the team.

Leonardo is the most disciplined and the most skilled Ninja of the team. He's also the leader, every team needs one or else they will have trouble staying united or getting moralised.

Donatello is like MacGuyver, he can make something explode with a chewing gum and a soda, he's also responsible for fixing broken appliances and making new vehicles to help the team in battle. He can also defuse bombs, hack into computers and shut down security systems and ended up saving their lifes many times, you can't let someone like that just die.

Raphael is the most aggressive and physically strongest turtle. He's the one that's least likely to have qualms when it comes to hit or even kill enemies, someone like that always comes in handy when you're feeling unsure or hesitant. If he died the others would get in less trouble that's for sure, but there's been times where Raph's reckless behaviour has been a great help to the team, sometimes a bit of irreverence isn't a bad thing.

Michelangelo while being somewhat of an airhead is very talented at fighting and can light up the mood when everyone's down. If Mikey died I'm affraid his brothers wouldn't be able to smile anymore.

In the end, I just couldn't chose. That's right, I'd rather let all of them die at the same time since if I let one of them die the rest of the team would be seriously affected by the loss of one of their brothers and one day would eventually lose a battle resulting in the other three dieing.

PS: Let's not forget the fact that if I let one of them die the others would come after me. :P

Master Splinter 08-11-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gyt Kaliba (Post 792491)
it'd be Raph. Leo would be the one who'd say he's going to take the death, but then when Leo's about to be gunned down, Raph would knock him out of the way and take the bullets. Their dislike for each-other may run deep, but I suspect Raph's respect for Leo runs even deeper...or something.

I was thinking a long these same lines... I can't really pick one of the four but something like this panning out in a story seems very feasible to me.

-ms

ooglafina 08-11-2010 05:50 PM

I'd just let them all die.

Go look at the deathfics that are swimming around out there. They aren't in short supply.

Andrew NDB 08-11-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ooglafina (Post 792548)
Go look at the deathfics that are swimming around out there. They aren't in short supply.

Depending on what TMNT universe we're talking about I'd almost assuredly lean that way.

Ninja Tiptup 08-11-2010 08:42 PM

I feel the urge to point out if you kill Donnie you get Same as it Never Was.

I'm not going to pick but I think in a scenario in which one turtle has to choose to die to let the others live its inevitably going to be Leo or Raph. And as Gyt put it, Raph would surely push Leo out of the way and Leo would do the same for Raph.

If Leo dies we might have something similar to the 2007 movie only Leo never comes back.

If Raph dies, Leo would probably have a hard time letting go of the pain and that would affect him as a leader. You might end up with a very cynical Leonardo. Somewhat like Raph often is.

Yeah... I couldn't choose. Mikey is my favorite but I like the other three too much to throw any of them under the bus.

Venom 08-11-2010 10:48 PM

What! I'd see Casey sneak up behind the nearest shooter, then kick the villain in the nuts as Casey bashes the baddies head in, then we'd both grab their guns and mow down the other three bangers while the Turtles most likely had a moment to slip away in the ensuing confusion.

Shark_Blade 08-12-2010 11:27 AM

I can never pick one. I let fate decide - pick randomly and I got Don.
Bye-bye Donnie. :(

Redeemer 08-12-2010 12:03 PM

which one I would want to die-Don :(

Which one would probably die- Raph :(

If Raph dies
Leo would train even hard to forget the pain and then would struggle between good and evil. Not being evil, but crossing the line morally with his thirst of vengence being like a dark version of Nightwatcher.

Mikey like mentioned early would become inspired and begin to train with Leo and become the best natural fighter. He would lose his comedic style and become more like Leo was b4.

Don would entrench himself with technology. He would build them awesome battle armor. Like Nightwatchers except better.

Splinter would probably feel so guilty he would join the turtle on every mission making sure none of his other sons would never die b4 him again.

The turtles would seek vengence first and surely achieve it. They would ulimately eliminate crime, but being wanted themselve by all authorities and become rogues. Constantly running and hiding.

Slap-Happy 08-12-2010 07:37 PM

Raph is always getting them into trouble anyways, so him. Though I wouldn't want any to.

ooglafina 08-12-2010 07:59 PM

My sister said I should vote for Leo because she doesn't like him. And so I did. :D

Redeemer 08-13-2010 08:50 PM

Man for some reason everybody is hating on Raph and Leo lately:lol:

ooglafina 08-13-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 793119)
Man for some reason everybody is hating on Raph and Leo lately:lol:

I know. Maybe that means that we all secretly love them. I think we sort of pick one and go "Grrr!" to the other.

Samhain 08-13-2010 09:26 PM

Raph. Out of everyone I think his death will have the least amount of effect whereas if any of the other 3 died it would be much worse.

Ninjinister 08-13-2010 09:44 PM

Didn't we do this already?

Mr. Stay Puft 08-13-2010 10:09 PM

Leo, only because he's always been my least favorite.

Oniri 08-13-2010 10:41 PM

If I could, I would pick none. This is a pretty horrible thread, but I have an sadistic answer to match. :tgrin:

I went with Mikey because that would bring a certain darkness to team that maybe interesting. For several reasons (particularly because he is like the little brother of the group and "the party dude"), he would be the hardest death for the TMNT to get pass and sometimes the hardest death is the best death storywise. Because Mikey tends to be the emotional support of the group (someone mentions he brings the smiles), I believe things would fall apart in more interesting ways.

Spacefille 08-14-2010 02:57 PM

Raph, but the moment any of them die the group would slowly fall apart imho.

However, in this situation Leo'd do something amazing/stupid and end up saving them all or doing his best to save them all. So maybe Leo would fall and that'd be disaster for the surviving three.

I like Redeemer's comment about Leo struggling with good and evil if Raph dies. *thumbs up*

Redeemer 08-14-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ooglafina (Post 793128)
I know. Maybe that means that we all secretly love them. I think we sort of pick one and go "Grrr!" to the other.

exactly!!!!!!! ;)

and thanx Spacefille

Redeemer 08-15-2010 10:21 PM

Long Live Leonardo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:tgrin:


250 Post!:tgrin:

Koi 08-15-2010 11:02 PM

Umm... First we have this thread
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=31015
then later came this thread
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=31431
Now this thread. What is up with the hate and death of turtles?

Nelson 08-16-2010 11:26 AM

I'd rather see all four turtles die at the same time. But if I HAD to kill one I guess it would be Leonardo, because as I see it, he acccomplished his main goals (being a great ninja, making Splinter proud of him) a long time ago. Raph still has to work on his anger issues, Mike has not made it big as a writer, and Don has this uneasy feeling, he is clearly dissatisfied with the state of the world, and he'll have to do something about it eventually (running for president or something.)

BUT LET'S NOT MAKE THE RESULTS OF THIS POLL AFFECT THE CONCLUSION OF VOLUME 3 THANKS.

Redeemer 08-16-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson (Post 793539)
I'd rather see all four turtles die at the same time. But if I HAD to kill one I guess it would be Leonardo, because as I see it, he acccomplished his main goals (being a great ninja, making Splinter proud of him) a long time ago. Raph still has to work on his anger issues, Mike has not made it big as a writer, and Don has this uneasy feeling, he is clearly dissatisfied with the state of the world, and he'll have to do something about it eventually (running for president or something.)

BUT LET'S NOT MAKE THE RESULTS OF THIS POLL AFFECT THE CONCLUSION OF VOLUME 3 THANKS.

Don has made his mark on the world through O'neil tech

Nelson 08-16-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 793571)
Don has made his mark on the world through O'neil tech

Hmm... true...
Didn't think of that, I assumed we were talking about the Mirage universe.

Cowabunga Kiefer 08-16-2010 10:48 PM

This thread is a little sad, but hey, it's creative. So let's see...(thinking logically) if one turtle were to die I'd have to consider how it would effect them in saving the world and all. Leo is a no brainer and should obviously stay (but that's an obvious subjective statement since I'm a Leo fan here), Don has a lot of pressure on him to help the turtles for the most part, without him they'd probably be lost with a cheap compass. Raph has proved himself useful by getting into situations and handling them pretty well, given his attitude isn't the best doesn't mean he should be despised and thrown under the bus.

So, after briefly debating myself, Mikey happens to be my last option. I mean sure he's fun and keeps the group entertained, and you can never ever replace him, but in regards to how it would all end up in the future he seems to be the obvious choice. This isn't saying I hate him, I'm just trying to think logically of the situation.

Luzmagica 08-17-2010 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arella (Post 793491)
Umm... First we have this thread
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=31015
then later came this thread
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=31431
Now this thread. What is up with the hate and death of turtles?

You are right Arella....at least one of them starts as a joke... (I remember posted something about Zach ...) but I dont like this kind of threads! Im not voting on them....If some turtle :dead: things will never be the same....It will be the begining of the end for them...! I dont want that for my fav. characters!

Redeemer 08-17-2010 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luzmagica (Post 793698)
You are right Arella....at least one of them starts as a joke... (I remember posted something about Zach ...) but I dont like this kind of threads! Im not voting on them....If some turtle :dead: things will never be the same....It will be the begining of the end for them...! I dont want that for my fav. characters!


I dont think these threads r alike bc this is asking which turtle dies.

The others r asking least favorite turlte or which turtle do u hate these threads r not alike.

collectormike 08-17-2010 07:38 PM

Haha definitely raph. A lot of folks picked him as their fav, but i kinda resented his attitude and rebellious personality. heh

Lynn 08-18-2010 07:21 PM

I choose Raph because he'd be cocky enough to throw down the gauntlet and get shot fo it. But I don't want him to die.

Shellsweet 08-19-2010 10:46 PM

I don't want any of them to die! XD;;;

It's so hard cuz they're all so different and unique, and HECK all of them would take a bullet for each other.

But I chose Raph cuz He would seem to react faster then all of them to jump in and take the bullet.

Voidoid 08-19-2010 11:33 PM

Hmmmm I'd say Raph. I mean Michaelangelo is the weakest, so naturally the weakest of the group should die but...... Raphs temper gets them into unnecessary **** sometimes, so..Raph. Besides Mikey is my favorite, I couldn't kill him. I think killing off Leonardo would be stupid since he's the leader, and without him the other 3 turtles wouldn't function the same.

Redmage1987 08-23-2010 01:40 AM

I'd Let Venus Die...Wait...

Anyway, lol. I don't think I could choose really, they are all unique and very important in many ways. Heck sometimes I even have trouble picking which one is my Favorite Ninja Turtle to be honest. They are all amazing, lol. :)

Vivi 08-23-2010 02:50 AM

I want Mikey to die.

I'm not being flippant, I think this would cause the most psychological trauma. How entertaining for us.

collectormike 08-23-2010 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivi (Post 794798)
I want Mikey to die.

I'm not being flippant, I think this would cause the most psychological trauma. How entertaining for us.

haha true. Dont kill muh mikey!

Redeemer 08-27-2010 07:02 AM

I don't know about that I think if Raph died it would be the most interesting.
Like I said b4 I think Leo would stuggle with good and evil. Mikey would go into a depression and begin to train unrelentlessly and become the ultimate ninja, but at a price. He would become silent, rarely talk. Mikey really like Raph in the the 2k3. He pissed him off all the time, but they were really close. I am not sure how this would affect Donny. If I had to gues I would say Don might actual abandon his ninja ways and focus completely on Technology. I think this could ultimately either get him kill and leave an intersting turtle dou. Or have some sort of backlash.:ohwell:

Mr.Turtle 08-27-2010 03:35 PM

Raph or Mikey perhapse. This decision is not based on how much love I have for the turtles. It's out of technical reason. How it will affact the team if one of them disappears. A leader and a scientist are indispensible in a team. As to the muscle...:roll: But this question is cruel. The team will never be the same as before once a brother disappears. So I refuse to vote in this poll. :ohwell:

Shark_Blade 08-29-2010 06:33 PM

Looks like many wants Raph to be dead lol. That's what you get for being an air head and hogging the movies.


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