One Turtle has to die... you choose which

*Andrew NDB* · 08-11-2010, 12:35 PM

Hypothetical situation: a villain has a firing squad of machine gun-toting thugs trained on all four Turtles -- they Turtles are dead in their sights and there's no escape, not even for them.

The villain makes you an offer: Pick one Turtle to die and the other three will live. If you don't pick any, then all four Turtles will die.

For the sake of argument let's assume the villain will not attempt any kind of doublecross.

So... which Turtle should die, and why?

*plastroncafe* · 08-11-2010, 12:51 PM

Why?
Because no matter who I choose, he'll be the one most likely to dive out in front of the bullets to take them for his brothers.

*shuriken* · 08-11-2010, 12:51 PM

Raph. Mikey would become more driven to use his potential and even surpass Leo in terms of skill after Raph's death. Donnie is too important to let die in terms of his clear head, tech saviness and his uncanny ability to create sh*t out of garbage. Leo is the Leader and the most skilled of the four, killing him would demoralize the rest, even moreso than any of th other turtles dying. Without Raph they don't have their power forward so to speak, and eventually the team will fall without him, but his temper and his not wanting to be led attitude sometimes are a liabilty to the team. Tough call though. This is in the Mirage universe right? Cuz if it's 2k3 then I'd kill Mikey

Gyt Kaliba · 08-11-2010, 01:05 PM

I think regardless of canon (well, save for OT maybe, there I'd probably say it'd be Leo), it'd be Raph. Leo would be the one who'd say he's going to take the death, but then when Leo's about to be gunned down, Raph would knock him out of the way and take the bullets. Their dislike for each-other may run deep, but I suspect Raph's respect for Leo runs even deeper...or something.

I should clarify, this is my answer based on who WOULD die in the situation, not really who I'd pick personally. I can't really decide on the other way of looking at it.

*Prowler* · 08-11-2010, 04:12 PM

This is very hard since aach turtle is unique, so the loss of one would weaken the team.

Leonardo is the most disciplined and the most skilled Ninja of the team. He's also the leader, every team needs one or else they will have trouble staying united or getting moralised.

Donatello is like MacGuyver, he can make something explode with a chewing gum and a soda, he's also responsible for fixing broken appliances and making new vehicles to help the team in battle. He can also defuse bombs, hack into computers and shut down security systems and ended up saving their lifes many times, you can't let someone like that just die.

Raphael is the most aggressive and physically strongest turtle. He's the one that's least likely to have qualms when it comes to hit or even kill enemies, someone like that always comes in handy when you're feeling unsure or hesitant. If he died the others would get in less trouble that's for sure, but there's been times where Raph's reckless behaviour has been a great help to the team, sometimes a bit of irreverence isn't a bad thing.

Michelangelo while being somewhat of an airhead is very talented at fighting and can light up the mood when everyone's down. If Mikey died I'm affraid his brothers wouldn't be able to smile anymore.

In the end, I just couldn't chose. That's right, I'd rather let all of them die at the same time since if I let one of them die the rest of the team would be seriously affected by the loss of one of their brothers and one day would eventually lose a battle resulting in the other three dieing.

PS: Let's not forget the fact that if I let one of them die the others would come after me.

*Master Splinter* · 08-11-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gyt Kaliba

it'd be Raph. Leo would be the one who'd say he's going to take the death, but then when Leo's about to be gunned down, Raph would knock him out of the way and take the bullets. Their dislike for each-other may run deep, but I suspect Raph's respect for Leo runs even deeper...or something.

I was thinking a long these same lines... I can't really pick one of the four but something like this panning out in a story seems very feasible to me.

-ms

ooglafina · 08-11-2010, 04:50 PM

I'd just let them all die.

Go look at the deathfics that are swimming around out there. They aren't in short supply.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-11-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ooglafina

Go look at the deathfics that are swimming around out there. They aren't in short supply.

Depending on what TMNT universe we're talking about I'd almost assuredly lean that way.

Ninja Tiptup · 08-11-2010, 07:42 PM

I feel the urge to point out if you kill Donnie you get Same as it Never Was.

I'm not going to pick but I think in a scenario in which one turtle has to choose to die to let the others live its inevitably going to be Leo or Raph. And as Gyt put it, Raph would surely push Leo out of the way and Leo would do the same for Raph.

If Leo dies we might have something similar to the 2007 movie only Leo never comes back.

If Raph dies, Leo would probably have a hard time letting go of the pain and that would affect him as a leader. You might end up with a very cynical Leonardo. Somewhat like Raph often is.

Yeah... I couldn't choose. Mikey is my favorite but I like the other three too much to throw any of them under the bus.

**Venom** · 08-11-2010, 09:48 PM

What! I'd see Casey sneak up behind the nearest shooter, then kick the villain in the nuts as Casey bashes the baddies head in, then we'd both grab their guns and mow down the other three bangers while the Turtles most likely had a moment to slip away in the ensuing confusion.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-12-2010, 10:27 AM

I can never pick one. I let fate decide - pick randomly and I got Don.
Bye-bye Donnie.

*Redeemer* · 08-12-2010, 11:03 AM

which one I would want to die-Don

Which one would probably die- Raph

If Raph dies
Leo would train even hard to forget the pain and then would struggle between good and evil. Not being evil, but crossing the line morally with his thirst of vengence being like a dark version of Nightwatcher.

Mikey like mentioned early would become inspired and begin to train with Leo and become the best natural fighter. He would lose his comedic style and become more like Leo was b4.

Don would entrench himself with technology. He would build them awesome battle armor. Like Nightwatchers except better.

Splinter would probably feel so guilty he would join the turtle on every mission making sure none of his other sons would never die b4 him again.

The turtles would seek vengence first and surely achieve it. They would ulimately eliminate crime, but being wanted themselve by all authorities and become rogues. Constantly running and hiding.

*Slap-Happy* · 08-12-2010, 06:37 PM

Raph is always getting them into trouble anyways, so him. Though I wouldn't want any to.

ooglafina · 08-12-2010, 06:59 PM

My sister said I should vote for Leo because she doesn't like him. And so I did.

*Redeemer* · 08-13-2010, 07:50 PM

Man for some reason everybody is hating on Raph and Leo lately

ooglafina · 08-13-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

Man for some reason everybody is hating on Raph and Leo lately

I know. Maybe that means that we all secretly love them. I think we sort of pick one and go "Grrr!" to the other.

*Samhain* · 08-13-2010, 08:26 PM

Raph. Out of everyone I think his death will have the least amount of effect whereas if any of the other 3 died it would be much worse.

*Ninjinister* · 08-13-2010, 08:44 PM

Didn't we do this already?

Mr. Stay Puft · 08-13-2010, 09:09 PM

Leo, only because he's always been my least favorite.

Oniri · 08-13-2010, 09:41 PM

If I could, I would pick none. This is a pretty horrible thread, but I have an sadistic answer to match.

I went with Mikey because that would bring a certain darkness to team that maybe interesting. For several reasons (particularly because he is like the little brother of the group and "the party dude"), he would be the hardest death for the TMNT to get pass and sometimes the hardest death is the best death storywise. Because Mikey tends to be the emotional support of the group (someone mentions he brings the smiles), I believe things would fall apart in more interesting ways.

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08-11-2010, 12:35 PM	#1
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08-11-2010, 12:51 PM	#3
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Raph. Mikey would become more driven to use his potential and even surpass Leo in terms of skill after Raph's death. Donnie is too important to let die in terms of his clear head, tech saviness and his uncanny ability to create sh*t out of garbage. Leo is the Leader and the most skilled of the four, killing him would demoralize the rest, even moreso than any of th other turtles dying. Without Raph they don't have their power forward so to speak, and eventually the team will fall without him, but his temper and his not wanting to be led attitude sometimes are a liabilty to the team. Tough call though. This is in the Mirage universe right? Cuz if it's 2k3 then I'd kill Mikey __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

08-11-2010, 01:05 PM	#4
Gyt Kaliba Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 770	I think regardless of canon (well, save for OT maybe, there I'd probably say it'd be Leo), it'd be Raph. Leo would be the one who'd say he's going to take the death, but then when Leo's about to be gunned down, Raph would knock him out of the way and take the bullets. Their dislike for each-other may run deep, but I suspect Raph's respect for Leo runs even deeper...or something. I should clarify, this is my answer based on who WOULD die in the situation, not really who I'd pick personally. I can't really decide on the other way of looking at it. __________________ My FanFiction

08-11-2010, 04:50 PM	#7
ooglafina Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Olaf, Minnesota Posts: 413	I'd just let them all die. Go look at the deathfics that are swimming around out there. They aren't in short supply. __________________ "You look sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde's witticisms that have been rolled to a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye" - Ace Rimmer http://www.fanfiction.net/~connienervegas http://pizzas-scrolls.be/viewuser.php?uid=76 http://www.5wwwww5.com/forum/viewfor...tealthystories

08-11-2010, 04:12 PM	#5
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,999	This is very hard since aach turtle is unique, so the loss of one would weaken the team. Leonardo is the most disciplined and the most skilled Ninja of the team. He's also the leader, every team needs one or else they will have trouble staying united or getting moralised. Donatello is like MacGuyver, he can make something explode with a chewing gum and a soda, he's also responsible for fixing broken appliances and making new vehicles to help the team in battle. He can also defuse bombs, hack into computers and shut down security systems and ended up saving their lifes many times, you can't let someone like that just die. Raphael is the most aggressive and physically strongest turtle. He's the one that's least likely to have qualms when it comes to hit or even kill enemies, someone like that always comes in handy when you're feeling unsure or hesitant. If he died the others would get in less trouble that's for sure, but there's been times where Raph's reckless behaviour has been a great help to the team, sometimes a bit of irreverence isn't a bad thing. Michelangelo while being somewhat of an airhead is very talented at fighting and can light up the mood when everyone's down. If Mikey died I'm affraid his brothers wouldn't be able to smile anymore. In the end, I just couldn't chose. That's right, I'd rather let all of them die at the same time since if I let one of them die the rest of the team would be seriously affected by the loss of one of their brothers and one day would eventually lose a battle resulting in the other three dieing. PS: Let's not forget the fact that if I let one of them die the others would come after me.

08-11-2010, 07:42 PM	#9
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	I feel the urge to point out if you kill Donnie you get Same as it Never Was. I'm not going to pick but I think in a scenario in which one turtle has to choose to die to let the others live its inevitably going to be Leo or Raph. And as Gyt put it, Raph would surely push Leo out of the way and Leo would do the same for Raph. If Leo dies we might have something similar to the 2007 movie only Leo never comes back. If Raph dies, Leo would probably have a hard time letting go of the pain and that would affect him as a leader. You might end up with a very cynical Leonardo. Somewhat like Raph often is. Yeah... I couldn't choose. Mikey is my favorite but I like the other three too much to throw any of them under the bus. __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

08-11-2010, 09:48 PM	#10
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	What! I'd see Casey sneak up behind the nearest shooter, then kick the villain in the nuts as Casey bashes the baddies head in, then we'd both grab their guns and mow down the other three bangers while the Turtles most likely had a moment to slip away in the ensuing confusion.

08-12-2010, 10:27 AM	#11
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	I can never pick one. I let fate decide - pick randomly and I got Don. Bye-bye Donnie.

08-12-2010, 11:03 AM	#12
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	which one I would want to die-Don Which one would probably die- Raph If Raph dies Leo would train even hard to forget the pain and then would struggle between good and evil. Not being evil, but crossing the line morally with his thirst of vengence being like a dark version of Nightwatcher. Mikey like mentioned early would become inspired and begin to train with Leo and become the best natural fighter. He would lose his comedic style and become more like Leo was b4. Don would entrench himself with technology. He would build them awesome battle armor. Like Nightwatchers except better. Splinter would probably feel so guilty he would join the turtle on every mission making sure none of his other sons would never die b4 him again. The turtles would seek vengence first and surely achieve it. They would ulimately eliminate crime, but being wanted themselve by all authorities and become rogues. Constantly running and hiding. __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594 Last edited by Redeemer; 08-12-2010 at 06:35 PM.

08-12-2010, 06:37 PM	#13
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	Raph is always getting them into trouble anyways, so him. Though I wouldn't want any to.

08-12-2010, 06:59 PM	#14
ooglafina Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Olaf, Minnesota Posts: 413	My sister said I should vote for Leo because she doesn't like him. And so I did. __________________ "You look sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde's witticisms that have been rolled to a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye" - Ace Rimmer http://www.fanfiction.net/~connienervegas http://pizzas-scrolls.be/viewuser.php?uid=76 http://www.5wwwww5.com/forum/viewfor...tealthystories

08-13-2010, 07:50 PM	#15
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	Man for some reason everybody is hating on Raph and Leo lately __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594

08-13-2010, 08:26 PM	#17
Samhain Dare To Be Stupid! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 4,752	Raph. Out of everyone I think his death will have the least amount of effect whereas if any of the other 3 died it would be much worse.

08-13-2010, 08:44 PM	#18
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Didn't we do this already? __________________

08-13-2010, 09:09 PM	#19
Mr. Stay Puft Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NH Posts: 580	Leo, only because he's always been my least favorite. __________________ And there came a day. A day unlike any other, when Earth’s mightiest heroes found themselves united against a common threat, to fight the foes no single superhero could withstand. On that day, the Avengers were born. R.I.P Chi Cheng and Jeff Hanneman

08-13-2010, 09:41 PM	#20
Oniri Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 151	If I could, I would pick none. This is a pretty horrible thread, but I have an sadistic answer to match. I went with Mikey because that would bring a certain darkness to team that maybe interesting. For several reasons (particularly because he is like the little brother of the group and "the party dude"), he would be the hardest death for the TMNT to get pass and sometimes the hardest death is the best death storywise. Because Mikey tends to be the emotional support of the group (someone mentions he brings the smiles), I believe things would fall apart in more interesting ways. __________________ Check out my fanart! http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=31376