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Andrew NDB 03-19-2011 02:11 PM

Wait, so Mike's chuks have scythe blades in them and Don's staff is now bladed?
 
Sounds cool to me.

oldmanwinters 03-19-2011 02:41 PM

I approve as well. What's with all these pacifist complaints anyway?

discordiatookie 03-19-2011 03:16 PM

Does remind me a bit of that 2k3 episode, when they are fighting off some mousers.

Leonardo: Guys! The only way to stop them is to slice their heads off!
Michelangelo: Well, aint that great news, for the turtles with the BLADES!

I can just imagine Don thinking to himself: Hmm, that gives me an idea!


So yeah, all the better to slice up mousers (and pizzas) with...

Candy Kappa 03-19-2011 03:40 PM

I find the pop-up blades silly, why not just give them a Naginata and a Kusarigama.

Powder 03-19-2011 04:14 PM

I've stated my love for it in every thread, but yeah, I love it.

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa (Post 830263)
I find the pop-up blades silly, why not just give them a Naginata and a Kusarigama.

'Cause fans love to complain.

FearlessLeader 03-19-2011 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 830248)
I approve as well. What's with all these pacifist complaints anyway?

Plus I am assuming the guys are like 15/16 in the new show and even if someone wants to make an argument a certain character has pacifist tendency it would be far more likely these would develop as they got older anyway.

At least that's my take :twink:

Redeemer 03-19-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Reira (Post 830308)
Plus I am assuming the guys are like 15/16 in the new show and even if someone wants to make an argument a certain character has pacifist tendency it would be far more likely these would develop as they got older anyway.

At least that's my take :twink:

Very good point, but werent they all 15/16?

FearlessLeader 03-19-2011 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 830352)
Very good point, but werent they all 15/16?

Well in the comics the guys aged over time and I personally felt any pacifist tendencies Don had grew with him as he aged.

In the beginning all the guys were all kinda about kicking butt. :twink:

DrSpengler 03-19-2011 11:03 PM

I've always felt that the Turtles should be adept at using weapons other than their preferenced ones (which is why I thought that "trade weapons" part of "What a Croc" was really cool), so to see them using similar-but-different weapons is fine with me. And besides, Mike has already used tonfa and a grappling line regular in previous incarnations. What's one more notch on his belt?

My only fear, as I addressed in another thread, is that if they give the Turtles with bludgeoning weapons bladed weapons, and they only end up fighting human oponents... All they'll ever be able to do is "cut down conveniently placed chandeliers" (the 4Kids series was surpringly lax in letting Mike and Don thwak their foes with their weapons).

So I hope they fight a lotta robots and actually get to use the sharp parts of their weapons to do something other than deflect lasers and cut rope.

PizzaPower 03-19-2011 11:04 PM

ive said it before and ill say it again i love the blades. Lets give the TMNT a fresh start.

Andrew NDB 03-19-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 830379)
I've always felt that the Turtles should be adept at using weapons other than their preferenced ones (which is why I thought that "trade weapons" part of "What a Croc" was really cool), so to see them using similar-but-different weapons is fine with me. And besides, Mike has already used tonfa and a grappling line regular in previous incarnations. What's one more notch on his belt?

My only fear, as I addressed in another thread, is that if they give the Turtles with bludgeoning weapons bladed weapons, and they only end up fighting human oponents... All they'll ever be able to do is "cut down conveniently placed chandeliers" (the 4Kids series was surpringly lax in letting Mike and Don thwak their foes with their weapons).

So I hope they fight a lotta robots and actually get to use the sharp parts of their weapons to do something other than deflect lasers and cut rope.

Yeah, that would be pretty awful. "The TMNT all have awesome weapons and now... watch as they... don't use them." If we go back to Krang and Bebop and all of that with armadas of robot Foot Soldiers and maybe Rock Soldiers, maybe not a problem. Sounds like that's probably the case.

Donnie 03-19-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 830248)
I approve as well. What's with all these pacifist complaints anyway?

Welp, because Don's primarily a pacifist.

I can see what Reira is saying, how traits grow with age, and there is no doubt the early Turtles were very much about kicking butt. But even in the early series Donatello exhibits many pacifist tendencies. As early as issue #2 he is taking the back seat with fighting in favor of his computer skills (it is only Leo, Mike, and Raph who fight the mousers) and his one-shot shows him to be extremely sensitive. I always liked that Donny didn't have a blade...he used the simplest of weapons while being the most complex Turtle, at least in my opinion.

I guess I'm just anal, but I prefer Donny to stick with his plain old bo staff without a blade. However, I will also say I'm looking forward to seeing what Nick has up their sleeves...

Andrew NDB 03-19-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyTMNT (Post 830390)
Welp, because Don's primarily a pacifist.

I can see what Reira is saying, how traits grow with age, and there is no doubt the early Turtles were very much about kicking butt. But even in the early series Donatello exhibits many pacifist tendencies. As early as issue #2 he is taking the back seat with fighting in favor of his computer skills (it is only Leo, Mike, and Raph who fight the mousers) and his one-shot shows him to be extremely sensitive. I always liked that Donny didn't have a blade...he used the simplest of weapons while being the most complex Turtle, at least in my opinion.

I guess I'm just anal, but I prefer Donny to stick with his plain old bo staff without a blade. However, I will also say I'm looking forward to seeing what Nick has up their sleeves...

I can point you to pics from Mirage TMNT Vol. 1, #20, where Don wields a bo-staff with a blade at the end of it. And cuts some muthaf***ers up.

Powder 03-19-2011 11:43 PM

He's also killed a dog, killed people, used guns, threatened suicide, and more.
He may be more mellow than the others but I wouldn't call him a pacifist.

Donnie 03-19-2011 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 830392)
I can point you to pics from Mirage TMNT Vol. 1, #20, where Don wields a bo-staff with a blade at the end of it. And cuts some muthaf***ers up.

Lol no doubt Don knows how to cut 'em up like the rest, just wanted to make a case that his weapon, sans blade, reflects his pacifist tendencies. But like I said, I'm looking forward to what Nick has in store!

Donnie 03-20-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 830395)
He's also killed a dog, killed people, used guns, threatened suicide, and more.
He may be more mellow than the others but I wouldn't call him a pacifist.

Heh, I see your point...(no pun intended) :lol:

Eiko 03-20-2011 03:28 AM

The blades are a neat idea can't wait to see what Nick has in store.

Vivi 03-20-2011 08:29 AM

So bladed chucks are okay with the censors and the regular bladeless kind are not?
I like their original weapons but don't really mind at all about them using other kinds.

deadpoolRKO 03-20-2011 08:35 AM

I hope the top of splinter's cane twist off into a dagger

JoeGro 03-21-2011 01:25 PM

I guess I really won't know what my feelings are on the use of other weapons or the addition of blades to existing weapons until I completely understand the reasoning behind it. In the comics they would use different weapons here and there, but nothing really overshadowed the original weapons they were given.

discordiatookie 03-21-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vivi (Post 830452)
So bladed chucks are okay with the censors and the regular bladeless kind are not?

Wasn't that in the 80s?

Raph's Girl 03-21-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by deadpoolRKO (Post 830453)
I hope the top of splinter's cane twist off into a dagger

Or like in the case of a recent ep of House where in a dream sequence he had a blade that popped out from the bottom of his cane. "Im glad I brought my sword cane today!" *lol*

deadpoolRKO 03-21-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 830803)
Or like in the case of a recent ep of House where in a dream sequence he had a blade that popped out from the bottom of his cane. "Im glad I brought my sword cane today!" *lol*


lol , exactly :lol:

cartoonistaaron 03-21-2011 02:28 PM

The bladed weapons look more like a shameless attempt to have the Turtles look more "BADASSSS!!!" than anything else.

I'll certainly check the show out. I'm hoping by the time it's done, it'll have a "grittier" feel than the previous incarnations. I just bought a copy of RAPHAEL #1 (for six bucks! Cheap!) and my love of the old black-and-white stuff was rekindled. Hopefully the new show will have at least a little of that sensibility to it.

oldmanwinters 03-21-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 830395)
He's also killed a dog, killed people, used guns, threatened suicide, and more.
He may be more mellow than the others but I wouldn't call him a pacifist.

Quoted for Truth!:tsmile:

Andrew NDB 03-21-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cartoonistaaron (Post 830812)
I'll certainly check the show out. I'm hoping by the time it's done, it'll have a "grittier" feel than the previous incarnations.

I feel like every new generation of incarnations of TMNT (outside of the comics) keep promising "oh, this time they're much grittier!" and never delivering.

oldmanwinters 03-21-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 830823)
I feel like every new generation of incarnations of TMNT (outside of the comics) keep promising "oh, this time they're much grittier!" and never delivering.

Ah, come on now, Andrew. Don't you remember how "OMG no they they didn't" unexpected it was when Leo cut off Shredder's head in the Return to New York adaptation (as far as we knew at the time)? Also, Leo was stabbed by Karai in Exodus (where exactly it happened, only Lloyd Goldfire knows for sure)! And then you've got "Same as it Never Was." I mean, I could go on all day.:twink:

Donny 03-21-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 830824)
Ah, come on now, Andrew. Don't you remember how "OMG no they they didn't" unexpected it was when Leo cut off Shredder's head in the Return to New York adaptation (as far as we knew at the time)? Also, Leo was stabbed by Karai in Exodus (where exactly it happened, only Lloyd Goldfire knows for sure)! And then you've got "Same as it Never Was." I mean, I could go on all day.:twink:

Oh yes...some of the best episodes the show delievered!

Utromshredderhater 03-21-2011 03:25 PM

the blades pop out, plus Mikeys chuks can extend

discordiatookie 03-21-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Utromshredderhater (Post 830833)
the blades pop out, plus Mikeys chuks can extend

All made possible by tiny little utroms inside...
























I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.

sdp 03-21-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 830823)
I feel like every new generation of incarnations of TMNT (outside of the comics) keep promising "oh, this time they're much grittier!" and never delivering.

TNM was said to be "more xtreme" or something along those lines but that was referring to 90s XTREEEEME and it mostly delivered that, motorcycles, over the top designs etc and even if it was pretty silly at times you can argue it took itself more seriously than the OT, at in the way that they weren't self aware.

2k3 was a much grittier version, of course you weren't going to have the gritty version you want but come on are you actually telling it wasn't a grittier reboot than the OT? You have to remember the cartoons target audience is and will always be in the west.

TMNT 2007 had a pretty dark teaser trailer but even then we had mikey joking around. And we were only promised in "its going to be PG but borderline PG-13" so yeah it wasn't as dark as the 2k3 show but definitely darker than say the previous movies and at least as dark as the first one. Not saying the first movie is particularly dark but it wasn't like the OT.

Now for the new show we haven't been promised anything, everyone assumed it'd be more like the OT but everything we've seen so far makes it feel closer to 2k3 and 2k7 in terms of mood.

The new movie was indeed promised to be based more on the comics but that was before the buy out, I really expect the new movie to be PG-13 and the closest thing outside of comics that may appeal to you. Your version of the turtles is never going to happen outside of comics, I'd love to see it but I don't mind if it doesn't happen either.


For a more on topic comment, I actually think its pretty stupid that they have "oh look its not just a bo but a bladed bo!", but I'll take it, who knows maybe they do make it work and its not just "look how new and improved we are its now bladed".

Redeemer 03-21-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 830824)
Ah, come on now, Andrew. Don't you remember how "OMG no they they didn't" unexpected it was when Leo cut off Shredder's head in the Return to New York adaptation (as far as we knew at the time)? Also, Leo was stabbed by Karai in Exodus (where exactly it happened, only Lloyd Goldfire knows for sure)! And then you've got "Same as it Never Was." I mean, I could go on all day.:twink:

Amen I said Amen Can I get Another Amen :x

Newton Gimmick 03-21-2011 08:17 PM

Have they said for certain that those are their weapons all the time?

Kendamu 03-21-2011 09:16 PM

I would be surprised those were their weapons only part of the time.

BubblyShell22 03-22-2011 08:07 AM

I'm excited about the bladed weapons and can't wait to see the guys in action.

k_lala 03-22-2011 08:12 PM

Does this mean they are going to be fighting a lot of robots?

Dejablue 03-22-2011 11:49 PM

I think its stupid. In pretty much every adaption, whenever they aren't fighting robots (which is often I'll admit but still), Leo and Raph and always restricted to smacking people with the hilts of their weapons. Because you can't show people getting run through and stabbed up in cartoons. Oh woopdy doo Leo decapitated Shredder in 2k3. Except he really didn't.

Also isn't it easy to hurt yourself with regular nunchucks? What sense does it make to add blades to them? In every continuity Mikey accidentally smacks himself with his chucks at least once. If he does it this time he'll slice his skull open. Adding blades to a bo staff is stupid because, to me, it messes up the brilliant simplicity of the weapon. Pffft.

Powder 03-22-2011 11:54 PM

The blades are retractable. Deal with it already.

Dejablue 03-23-2011 12:02 AM

Ah see I didn't know they were retractable. That makes it a little better. And I am "dealing with it" by stating my opinion like I have the right to. Deal with that.

gobo 03-23-2011 12:49 PM

Oh, snap !


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