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Dirty Blond 03-28-2012 07:31 PM

Are You 'Over It' Regarding Mask Color?
 
Has any one let go of how they first felt about the mask matter in the IDW book? Have you moved on?

I know I have!

Princess Anri 03-28-2012 07:47 PM

Yes. I moved on instantly.

I liked the all red bandanas.

But this is fine too.

Grimlock 03-28-2012 07:53 PM

Did we have a choice? Yeah, it sucks but yes, we move on.

ToTheNines 03-28-2012 08:33 PM

I was over it the day #5 came out, only fuss out of me was due to the debate we were having in that one thread.

Powder 03-28-2012 08:53 PM

Define "over it". I still wish they had red masks. I'm not gonna write IDW or bitch about it in issue reviews, though.

DonatelloFan 03-28-2012 08:55 PM

I can't believe people have a strong opinion one way or another.

I couldn't care either way. Red or Colored, it's all the same to me. I never had any qualms about it.

But seriously, how can anyone care SO much about a bandana color? It's a COMIC...

Jester 03-28-2012 09:18 PM

I think the big issue was the bait and switch. We saw red bandanas from the start and then suddenly "Here are you're colored masks, my sons." It seemed a bit off. That and many fans see the comics as Turtles in their purest form...and in that pure form the Turtles wear all red.

oldmanwinters 03-28-2012 09:26 PM

I wonder if IDW is really gonna run with the all-red bandanas cover for #9 since they are still colored that way in the latest preview at the end of issue #8.

DonatelloFan 03-28-2012 09:33 PM

Well, I guess that makes sense. But for people to worked up either way is just silly. I like the red bandanas, but colored is fine, too. I don't pay attention to colors of bandanas when I'm reading a story.

Archon_Turtle 03-28-2012 09:41 PM

It never bothered me in the first place.

Dirty Blond 03-28-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 930102)
Define "over it". I still wish they had red masks. I'm not gonna write IDW or bitch about it in issue reviews, though.

Sounds like you've moved on like I have.

mysterycolor 03-28-2012 10:50 PM

never made a difference for me

Andrew NDB 03-29-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

I can't believe people have a strong opinion one way or another.
Hm. Were you, like, absent from the boards for like the past... entire duration of the IDW series? It's OK if you were, of course. I only ask because it's the only possible conclusion I can arrive at for you to be arriving at such a statement in the here and now.

Quote:

But seriously, how can anyone care SO much about a bandana color? It's a COMIC...
I'm going to not comment on that for reasons of it being... ridiculous, on many levels. Number one, comic book discussions on message boards... eh, you know what, never mind. It's just not worth the energy.

Anyway, honest thoughts:

I'm beginning to see that all-red masks would not suit or befit the direction they appear to be going in (if things are to be rather quasi-Fred Wolf centric, I'd just as soon the "all-red TMNT" continue to be confined to the source material). That said, while I can appreciate the IDW team "honoring the roots" with the initial red-bandannaing, I think the reasoning for going rainbow is pretty sketchy and dodgy at best and would have preferred not to have been baited-and-switched.

Andrew NDB 03-29-2012 12:41 AM

Also, it seems that the "all red" still leads by some 60%:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...=multi-colored

And oh, since we're on the subject, I posted something in that thread that I noticed didn't see a lot of response. Let me repost here for sh**s and giggles:

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Rank 102 for 12/11: TMNT #5 -- 19,689 copies
#5 hits, at the end of which we see them getting the rainbow bandannas. And then...

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Rank 100 for 1/12: TMNT #6 -- 18,773 copies
... the book loses about a thousand readers.

I thought the general idea from a lot of the pro-rainbow bandanna people was that it would boost sales?

Jester 03-29-2012 12:56 AM

What do #7's sales numbers look like, smarty-pants? :P

Andrew NDB 03-29-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 930180)
What do #7's sales numbers look like, smarty-pants? :P

Rank 107 for 2/12: TMNT #7 -- 18,769 copies

So one issue later with the continued rainbow bandannas, it lost 4 more readers. In theory.

Matches Malone 03-29-2012 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 930177)
... the book loses about a thousand readers.

I thought the general idea from a lot of the pro-rainbow bandanna people was that it would boost sales?

Another way to look at it is it climbed up 2 ranks from 102 to 100. And then... fell down to 107. <shrugs>

Archon_Turtle 03-29-2012 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 930177)
Also, it seems that the "all red" still leads by some 60%:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...=multi-colored

And oh, since we're on the subject, I posted something in that thread that I noticed didn't see a lot of response. Let me repost here for sh**s and giggles:



#5 hits, at the end of which we see them getting the rainbow bandannas. And then...



... the book loses about a thousand readers.

I thought the general idea from a lot of the pro-rainbow bandanna people was that it would boost sales?

But if it gained 2 ranks by losing 1000 readers, doesn't that mean that everyone lost readers?

Candy Kappa 03-29-2012 03:43 AM

some like their Batman all back, some black and gray and other prefer the gray and blue costume.

I have a preference, it's the red masks, but it's not bugging me to the point where I'm standing on the roof top screaming "TOOOOOM WAAAAALTZ!" shaking my fists in the air. Or ranting on the net, which ever makes more sense :P

In the end, this isn't the Mirage comics, and as long as the stories are good, the art is top notch and coloring is solid. I be a happy camper.

And I'll take this Hamato Yoshi/Splinter of the Fred Wolf Hamato Yoshi/Splinter anytime ;)

discordiatookie 03-29-2012 03:44 AM

Didn't really bother me in the first place.

Weapons@theready 03-29-2012 06:28 AM

It was never that big of a deal to me because I knew that what I preferred would have no bearing on which direction the masks went. ANd as far as sales dropping off after Issue 5, #5 is also the introduction of the reincarnation angle, so take that for what its worth as well

pannoni1 03-29-2012 06:29 AM

I didn't mind at all, since I just see both red and colored as interchangble, even among the comics (Mirage vs. Archie). IDW gives us the chance to see both versions for the first time, and lets continue to enjoy the series.

Revan 03-29-2012 06:33 AM

I prefer the all red masks but there isn't much I can do about it so it's whatever. I'm not one all up in arms bitching about it. I can still enjoy the books. Honestly, that was a good thing about the Mirage books. Officially, they all wore red but we didn't see it on the pages since they were black and white. The covers were the only places we got to see the red bandanas... WHICH ARE FAR SUPERIOR

:P I couldn't resist

Candy Kappa 03-29-2012 06:34 AM

this reminds me of a TMNT coloring book I had as a kid, it had coloring pens included, But. it did not come with orange :lol:

pihb 03-29-2012 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Revan (Post 930216)
I prefer the all red masks but there isn't much I can do about it so it's whatever. I'm not one all up in arms bitching about it. I can still enjoy the books. Honestly, that was a good thing about the Mirage books. Officially, they all wore red but we didn't see it on the pages since they were black and white. The covers were the only places we got to see the red bandanas... WHICH ARE FAR SUPERIOR

:P I couldn't resist

That is a very good point. When I was talking to Kevin Eastman when he flew to Austin. We were chatting about the colored bandanas. He told me the red came about by accident because he didn't know what else to color. He also thought it was comical how divided fans get over it.

Personally I love the red, I loved the color in the TV show and movies. In this series they made the transition work. I am not going to complain over it because there is no need to.

ToTheNines 03-29-2012 06:51 AM

I've brought this up before, but the thing that still bugs me about it story-wise is the fact that Splinter decided to give them their favorite colors from their past lives... but tossed their original names aside just because they were given pet names by the employees at Stockgen.

Toby Barrett 03-29-2012 07:10 AM

He was also willing to toss aside his own name.

Candy Kappa 03-29-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 930223)
I've brought this up before, but the thing that still bugs me about it story-wise is the fact that Splinter decided to give them their favorite colors from their past lives... but tossed their original names aside just because they were given pet names by the employees at Stockgen.

yeah, that is kinda bugging

Oculus Orbus 03-29-2012 07:54 AM

Well, I'm "over it" because there's not much that can be done about it, and there's no point in ranting forever. But I still wish they were wearing red bandanas, and still think the way they introduced the rainbow bandanas didn't make much sense. ToTheNines makes an excellent point.

Looks like I might not be "over it" after all.

Donnie 03-29-2012 09:21 AM

Anyone else feel like this is gonna turn into that other thread all over again? :roll:

CyberCubed 03-29-2012 09:39 AM

I bet the Turtles have color bandanas so Slash can eventually show up with the black bandana. ;)

ToTheNines 03-29-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 930275)
I bet the Turtles have color bandanas so Slash can eventually show up with the black bandana. ;)

How would all-red deter that?

Toby Barrett 03-29-2012 10:43 AM

Slash with a red bandana would look killer badass

Andrew NDB 03-29-2012 11:44 AM

I've never been really sold on Slash wearing any bandanna. It's strange enough that the Ninja Turtles wear the bandannas (stranger still that they would wear different, mood-colored ones), but whatever, we accept it... but when an alien Turtle from another planet in a different galaxy/universe/dimension just happens to wear one exactly like they do (even if it's a different color) then that's hard to rationalize.

CyberCubed 03-29-2012 12:07 PM

Well it certainly looks better than his old toon design.

Matches Malone 03-29-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archon_Turtle (Post 930196)
But if it gained 2 ranks by losing 1000 readers, doesn't that mean that everyone lost readers?

People were so depressed about the color change that no one wanted to read ANY comics that month. :P

The Master 03-29-2012 01:17 PM

Mask color is the absolute least of my gripes regarding this new series. Non-issue.

TMNT is cooler than MOTU 03-29-2012 02:03 PM

I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes the colored masks. Although I have to say the colored knee/elbow pads and wrist bands look silly. Says the guy talking about mutant turtles...

Andrew NDB 03-29-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNT is cooler than MOTU (Post 930340)
Says the guy talking about mutant turtles...

No need to Crisler's Law yourself.

Toby Barrett 03-29-2012 02:40 PM

Andrew's Law:

The law of averages that states that sooner or later in a reason-minded discussion about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, someone will attempt to refute the entire discussion or argument with a statement equivalent to "But we're talking about four mutant ninja turtles living in a sewer!", causing Andrew to post Crisler's Law.

Kidding! Kidding! :lol:


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