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Jephael 09-30-2012 03:09 PM

Anyone else a little concerned about Mikey?
 
As much as I loved the series premiere, I have to admit it kind of bothers me how Michelangelo is being portrayed as a total moron here. He's even more of a stooge than he was in the 4Kids toon! The most annoying part was when they were climbing the wall and Mikey didn't seem to get that the van was part of Leo's plan. Come on, writers! Mikey may be a party dude, but he's never been that idiotic.

CyberCubed 09-30-2012 03:21 PM

I don't see how Mikey was "stupid" at all. He is unfamiliar with the human world, hence his reaction to the neon lights in the store windows, and he is eager like wanting to become the leader just because he says so.

In fact this version of Mike is just plain fun. In just two episodes I feel this could be the funniest version of the character in animation.

MikeandRaph87 09-30-2012 03:22 PM

I admit I had a bad feeling myself. He is the "dumb one" again it seems and Raphael still smacks him on the head after Mike irritates him and it seems not to be exclusive as Leo shows. Townsend Coleman made me love the character. He was goofy and fun loving,but not the "dumb one". I hope we don't get a retread of the 2003 cartoon. Perhaps its setting it up for him to mature as they are just 15 and starting their mission to fight evil. I can go along with that just fine I just hate for my favorite to be looked at as the "dumb one".

CyberCubed 09-30-2012 03:24 PM

That's because Fred Wolf Mike was very laid-back and it was just his surfer lingo and addiction to pizza that made him stand out.

Heather Breckel 09-30-2012 03:28 PM

Not too worried. I found him to be legitimately entertaining even if he wasn't the brightest crayon in the box. But I still didn't really see him as being stupid.

Gyt Kaliba 09-30-2012 03:33 PM

I can see the problem if he does become completely insipid later on or something, but as it is now (based on what I saw in the premiere I mean), I'm not worried at all. Yes, he was a little bit dumb, but it's Mikey - that's what I love about the guy. To me, he's a fun-loving goofball, with a lot of heart.

CyberCubed 09-30-2012 03:34 PM

He's not even portrayed as being dumb and incompetent though. The other guys didn't believe him when he saw a Kraang alien, and he comes across as cute and loveable.

I don't often say this word, but I honestly think this version of Mikey is "adorable."

Jester 09-30-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1004020)
He's not even portrayed as being dumb and incompetent though. The other guys didn't believe him when he saw a Kraang alien, and he comes across as cute and loveable.

I don't often say this word, but I honestly think this version of Mikey is "adorable."

And maybe that's why I don't have much of an issue either. My wife and I came to the conclusion that this Mikey is naive, not necessarily stupid. Everyone knows how I feel about 4Kids Mikey, that by the time he won the Battle Nexus Tournament he was insufferable, and that wasn't really because he was "the dumb one" but the fact that he was way to cocky....and then at times a coward. For me this Mikey is just kinda sweet and innocent. Naive, not stupid.

Oculus Orbus 09-30-2012 04:15 PM

I liked him better than I was expecting to. His jokes are pretty fun, so it doesn't get too annoying.

Spoiler:
But when he lets Snake escape because he gets distracted thinking of eating pizza, I thought it was just plain ridiculous. I hope they keep that kind of stupid stuff under control.

TurtleTitan97 09-30-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Heather Breckel (Post 1004017)
Not too worried. I found him to be legitimately entertaining even if he wasn't the brightest crayon in the box. But I still didn't really see him as being stupid.

^ This. As a fan of 4kids Mikey, I can honestly say that 2k12 Mikey is WAY better than him.

Cipher 09-30-2012 04:30 PM

He's infinitely better than 4Kids Mike.

While he's still playing a bit of a doofus, he seems genuine and just a bit overwhelmed by the things around him.

Also, he probably got more laughs out of me in the single hour of this show I've seen than 4Kids Mike did in the entire series.

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1004028)
And maybe that's why I don't have much of an issue either. My wife and I came to the conclusion that this Mikey is naive, not necessarily stupid. Everyone knows how I feel about 4Kids Mikey, that by the time he won the Battle Nexus Tournament he was insufferable, and that wasn't really because he was "the dumb one" but the fact that he was way to cocky....and then at times a coward. For me this Mikey is just kinda sweet and innocent. Naive, not stupid.

Yeah, this.

BubblyShell22 09-30-2012 04:39 PM

I'm not too worried. Like others have said, he doesn't come off as dumb to me. He's just naive and exploring the world. He's just a fun loving goofball who can be dense at times but not altogether dumb.

Cowabunga Carl 09-30-2012 04:43 PM

I like this version of Mikey honestly. They play him very childlike and naive in the ways of the human world. I feel like he is the one who wants to learn the most about it out of the Turtles. It also came across to me that he is the biggest one that sees them as a true family. I've had friends with little brothers and that's what he reminded me of.

Jephael 09-30-2012 04:58 PM

I wil say I did love the part where Mikey faced that one Kraang right before discovering its true identity, but that exchange with Leo while scaling the wall still bugs me a little, as does that part where he said "You'd think Snake would turn into a snake." was a bit of a groaner. But I digress.

MikeandRaph87 09-30-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1004067)
I wil say I did love the part where Mikey faced that one Kraang right before discovering its true identity, but that exchange with Leo while scaling the wall still bugs me a little, as does that part where he said "You'd think Snake would turn into a snake." was a bit of a groaner. But I digress.

What made Snake turn into a weed anyway? I did like how Mike renamed him,the pizza bit was good,but they should know what pizza is just never tried it,and the fight where he discovers Krang. I hope that Mike is set up this way to grow as the series goes on much like he did in Archie.Do you think that is the idea?

TurtleTitan97 09-30-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1004075)
What made Snake turn into a weed anyway?

If you look closely at the ground were Snake was talking to the kraang, you see weeds.

Cure 09-30-2012 05:20 PM

I'd rather have a naive and confused Mikey than an annoyingly arrogant coward.

If Mikey doesn't get something, he'll ask and at least TRY to learn. 2003 Mikey would just brush everything off.

Andrew NDB 09-30-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1004020)
He's not even portrayed as being dumb and incompetent though.

Yes he is. He couldn't comprehend the other Turtles' [super simple] plan.

Drose18 09-30-2012 06:01 PM

I think this mikey is more fun than 2k3 mikey. 2k3 Mikey is better for that show because it had a draker tone. 2k12 mikey is better because this is more directed to kids. Also he is very fun i thought it was hillarious n he let snake get away beecause he was hungry.

Jester 09-30-2012 06:26 PM

He's 15, and has a serious case of AD-HD. :P

oldmanwinters 09-30-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1004088)
I'd rather have a naive and confused Mikey than an annoyingly arrogant coward.

If Mikey doesn't get something, he'll ask and at least TRY to learn. 2003 Mikey would just brush everything off.

Agreed, man. The new kid has got heart.

Agent 86 09-30-2012 07:39 PM

The only aspect which I thought stretched his ... innocence/naivety too far was when he didn't understand (or forgot) that the van smashing into the front gate of the Kraang compound and causing a distraction was part of the plan.

Sure, he didn't help set up the van, but surely he understood what was happening or at least should have been able to figure it out shortly after it happened.

Otherwise, while he was a little "slow" with some concepts (e.g. forgetting to watch Snake which gave Snake a chance to escape), I saw that as simply a lack of experience and an inability to focus given that he's never really been in those situations before.

Powder 09-30-2012 07:42 PM

I'm not worried at all, I don't agree with how you interpreted this new version. I think he's refreshing as hell, and super funny.

wussy fuz bunny 09-30-2012 08:13 PM

i missed the premier cuz i was constipated. So my wife went to walmart and got me some Phillips Colon TM. stuff. Thank you colon lady

Vegeta 09-30-2012 08:22 PM

Mikey is my least favorite turtle, but at least in this cartoon he seems more fun that idiotic.

Coola Yagami 09-30-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1004090)
Yes he is. He couldn't comprehend the other Turtles' [super simple] plan.

THIS. That and 'drink the Mutagen' and letting Snake get away. Also Splinter laughing that Mike woulda been a bad leader. It's too much.

The neon light thing was naive and adorable. The examples above were just being dumb.

sdp 09-30-2012 08:53 PM

As long as he isn't as annoying as 2k3 mikey everything will be fine. He's good now.

ComicBookBoy 09-30-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1004005)
The most annoying part was when they were climbing the wall and Mikey didn't seem to get that the van was part of Leo's plan. Come on, writers! Mikey may be a party dude, but he's never been that idiotic.

That was one of my favorite scenes out of the whole first episode.

Before anyone tells me it was the second episode; I count two-parters as one episode, so I say it is episode one.:twink:

Redeemer 09-30-2012 09:08 PM

Truthfully, I think the Nick Mikey makes 2k3 Mikey look like a rocket science, imo, but we do only have only seen 2 eps....

NinjaMan 09-30-2012 09:16 PM

Me and my wife though Mikey was quite funny. I really dig this version.

Powder 09-30-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wussy fuz bunny (Post 1004190)
i missed the premier cuz i was constipated. So my wife went to walmart and got me some Phillips Colon TM. stuff. Thank you colon lady

Who the hell asked?

Jester 09-30-2012 09:28 PM

Well I know I was waiting with baited breath to hear his opinion of the premier and Mikey...

TheCanadiandrome 09-30-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heather Breckel (Post 1004017)
Not too worried. I found him to be legitimately entertaining even if he wasn't the brightest crayon in the box. But I still didn't really see him as being stupid.

^ this, QFT

Zulithe 09-30-2012 10:07 PM

He's entertaining and a great fighter. I prefer him when he is portrayed as being the kind of turtle who makes stupid jokes rather than smart jokes, ya know

zkarlette 10-01-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wussy fuz bunny (Post 1004190)
i missed the premier cuz i was constipated. So my wife went to walmart and got me some Phillips Colon TM. stuff. Thank you colon lady

Thank you for this Lol moment brought to you by Mr. Fuzzy wuzzy bunny..:lol:

Anyways.. I think Mike was probably on the verge of looking a little too stupid but I thought that if he is just being portrayed as a funny little kid he is probably just adorable, cute and definetly funny.

BubblyShell22 10-01-2012 06:38 AM

I think this Mikey is adorable. I wanted to punch 2K3 Mikey in the face after his Battle Nexus win, but I love Nick Mikey. I loved when he hugged the container and called it Mom. That was just so sweet.

Icegaze 10-01-2012 07:28 AM

I like Mikey's voice and the way he carries himself. But if there is one gripe I had whilst watching the premiere, it is that I felt they made our green party dude too... dumb.

It was particularily cringe-worthy when Mike didn't understand Leo and Raph's plan of using the van as a bait to get into the hideout. I mean, his remark was so extreme that it put me off a bit. It's not like he didn't pay attention to the plan or forgot how it would play out. It was like: "We wanted to make them think we were in the van" (Leo); "But we were not in the van" (Mikey). Really? -___-
Anyway, I'm hoping that that side of Mikey mellows down in the long run because it could become annoying.

But that didn't stop me from enjoying his character as a whole in the premiere. :)

VaughnMichael 10-01-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1004172)
I'm not worried at all, I don't agree with how you interpreted this new version. I think he's refreshing as hell, and super funny.

I'm going to have to agree here.
I didn't think I'd like him but he's now my favorite turtle of this series and I've always been a huge Don or Raph fan.

chrisdude 10-01-2012 10:32 AM

For some reason, I found this, um... ignorant Mikey FAR less offensive than that of TMNT (how has no one brought up TMNT?).

The TMNT Mikey was like, stoner stupid. My least favorite Mikey ever. I feel like this kid is more distracted than stupid. He's just not paying attention or thinking ahead.

cryan 10-01-2012 10:54 AM

I liked the version of Mikey.I do think he's more likeable actually.


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