I almost quite literally hate him(warning wall of text)
 

Long time lurker first time poster here,first I would like to say that I mean no offense to any of his many fans on here and that you are all of course free to agree or disagree with what I say,but having recently gotten the chance to catch up on the new series(which is great in so many ways) yet again I find myself strongly disliking Raphael now I have never been overly fond of his character having watched most of the 2k3 series and read some of the comics his whole"rebel bad boy Mr attitude" schtick is something I never understood the appeal of but accepted has part of he's so wildly popular .In the 2k3 series he had a temper he whacked Mikey on the head on numerous occasions I never liked it then but in this newest incarnation he seems to have taken that mean spiritedness and snarkiness against his brothers up to eleven,I recall in the gauntlet episode him slapping poor Mikey after he trips while trying to get away from the kraang and now not even leo or donnie are safe from his "whacks" it seems,and according to some official sources he is now the strongest of the four turtles which just doesn't sit well with me him having such a obvious advantage over the others.I know their trained ninja I know their rambunctious teenage boys I know fighting is apart of their daily lives (heck I love the fight scenes in this series the choreography is amazing)and I know raph is has good or bad has the writers want to make him but does he really have to be such a ahole all the time I've known Raphael's(not physically abusive but verbally) in real life they are not fun people to be around their nasty attitude is not "cool" and it can be exhausting to be on guard against them 24 7.I'm not calling raph a complete monster and I know his so called bad boy persona is why so many people find him so appealing and more power to them for that I just wish the writers of this show would dial his attitude back a notch and let him learn once and for all that its NOT okay to beat up on your brothers for even the smallest infractions

What? This Raph is much more toned down from the anger-heavy Raph's.

God this post was difficult to read.

Raph is a jerk. It's the stereotype attributed to the character, just as Mikey is the idiot, Don is smart, and Leo is disciplined.

I'll go with Mikey being the comic relief, not the idiot. I seriously don't get why some people think he's the dumb one. Well, I get it. But obviously, that's not the right title to give him. It just makes him sound useless.

I like this Raph a lot more than the 03 version and 87 version.

03 raph was the best for me. This new raph can be an ahole but he its how he is supposed to be.

I think, with the exception of the smacks and whacks, Raph's attitude has been toned down. He hasn't run off on his own and started taking his anger out on street thugs, yet...

I dub this post tl;dr

I agree with allie300. I'll never understand the appeal of Raphael's hot-headed nature. It's one thing to occasionally blow up, but they've got him doing it like 3-5 times every episode, and over the most trivial crap! Atleast 4Kids Raph only got pissed during extreme circumstances.

Same here. I don't really have a problem with this version of Raph.

I too have never like Raph as much as the other turtles, his personality just doesn't really appeal to me as an interesting character. I wouldn't say I hate him, but he's probably my least favorite of the four turtles.

Raph never even lost his temper in this series much.

MIKEY: "Are you talking to your pet turtle?"
RAPHAEL: "No. Shut up!"
MIKEY: "That's adorable!"
RAPHAEL: ::proceeds to beat Mikey with a wooden spoon::

Later in that same episode he acts like a dick just because Donatello's explaining how power conduits work.

Thanks for all the responses,perhaps hate was too strong a word I don't hate raph without him the team wouldn't be the same(and he's not real)I just feel that the writers have made him so much more malicious?with his verbal attacks and so much more willing to hit his brothers out of training situations eh I don't know maybe its just me

But he is an idiot. He acts like he's five years old.

Wasn't there an old profile of him somewhere saying he had ADD?

I agree on that, I really hate this Raph he's twice as abusive as the 2003 and 80's Raph. If he is not hitting someone he is making fun of him or insulting. I now he adds some spice to the team but I never liked people who verbally or physically abuse of others.

I think it's not that he 'loses his temper'. It's that he's always insulting, threatening or smacking one of his brothers almost every time he's on screen.
"Another option is me slapping you". and so forth. The one where Raph tells Don he's crowding him, and Don quickly backs off as if he's worried he's gonna get smacked again are two examples.
He's basically the bully of the team, though Leo does seem to enjoy putting him in line once in a while.

Why do people make a big deal out of this? People act like this in real life all the time, maybe not the physical hitting, but I'm talking about the sarcasm and jabs.

This has to be in the Top 3 Dumbest arguments about this Series I've heard so far from this forum! That's EXACTLY how brothers act, it's meant to be humourous. Raph has always been like this.

I think its not so much of a 'Raph has always been like this' it's more like 'Raph is doing this ALL THE TIME'.
80's Raph wasn't dissing everyone all the time
2K3 Raph wasn't pissed all the time
Nick2012 Raph does seem to be insulting, smacking and bullying his bros all the time. Every third line is an insult. I do like seeing Leo fight back sometimes. Just wish Mike and Don would too.

Agreed. Sometimes I get the feeling that people here get really bored a lot of the time and just start random complaining for no reason. First it was Mikey being dumb, then it was Leo being a space geek, now it's Raphael being hotheaded.

I guess the next thread we'll have is someone complaining about Donatello, or did we have one like that already?

:teek:

just...wow...

i cant breathe with all that irony in here...

How is what I said dumb?and in the top 3 of your dumbest list no less I feel so special:roll:reading through the responses some actually agree with me it seems like every other word out of this raph's mouth is a threat or a snark I mean it's your prerogative to find it amusing to me he just comes of as such a bully most time for instance 'panic in the sewers' what was his response to don's perfectly legitimate request on listening to find out more about "shredders evil plans"?breaking don's shell over his knee riiiight reasonable response right there

I complain about DVD releases, not about characters personalities.

*can't breathe...suffocating...* *gasp*

I think people just like attacking the Nick Turtles personalities because they're portrayed younger and more like real teens than ever before.

It's almost as if people don't remember what they were like at 15.

Which is better than attacking the show because, "4Kids did it better..."

I think I got it....wait...no I don't.

You little female dog! Raph is a God of war! I hope you will burn in the pits of a ditch filled to the brink with ph1 acid.

LOL!!! This post made my day LOL. :D

(Not sure if serious)did I touch a nerve or what?female dog,burning in a pit of acid:teek: seriously?are you one of those creepy overzealous fans?well I'm sorry if I hurt your fee fees by saying your pretend boyfriend comes of as an even bigger jerk in the new series but there you go.

I dig this version of Raph. I feel like they are capturing the teenage aspect of Raph and the other turtles perfectly. I mean he's 15 years old. Mix that with his insane physical talents and the traditional Raph personality and you have an accurate representation of a smart ass, testosterone fueled kid.

I don't know whether that user was serious or not, but there are some obsessive female fans who have crushes on the Turtles that go too far. They're not really on this forum though, you'll find them on places like deviantart.

HE wasn't serious, I know because... I live with him. :dead:

As for this thread. I'm sure Raph will have his soft moments. They might be small, but I like this version of him. :D

This Raph is thoroughly toned down from most incarnations, with the only exception being the OT version. But seriously, as far as his being a hothead goes? If I lived in a sewer, cut off from the world and was labeled a freak by those I attempt to protect, I can't imagine I'd be Mr. Sunshine either.

I like the way people complaining about complaining about tmnt related topics in a tmnt forum.

Where else should we discuss stuff like this if not in a tmnt forum? If you guys feel people have lost theyr reality-feeling just because thinking about stuff like this- like the guy who opened this topic, you should think about drop your tmnt fandom for a while and spend more time in real life. TMNT Forum -> TMNT related topics - no matter how "senseless" they seem for you (of course at least they have to go along with the forum-rules)


Well i guess they should show Raph from a different view more often. his love for his pet turtle shows that he has a calm site too. But they didn't showed it much for now.. maybe it will come in future episodes.

I like the Raphael from the 87' cartoon at most. I think should have made this raphael more extreme like an...hmm... Lot of you will laugh but can you imagine Raphael with the kind of Dr. House? A sarcastic, ironic asshole who talks all the time with the audience? That would be perfect, hehe.

2k3 Raph is not bad, i think i like him second most.

Lol...:lol:

I think Raph's comments are funny sometimes and are meant to make their interactions a little more interesting or humorous. He seems to love his little pet turtle and was supportive of Mike when he was upset. I would like to see how his character develops on this series.

Raph tried to kill Mikey once in 2K3 and quite nearly succeeded.

Check and mate.

Raph's alright. Dunno why people complained about him being aggressive when it's part of his character.

Or they want him to hit on nameless thugs instead of his bros because it's healthier and more socially acceptable I dunno.

Didn't 2K3 Raph almost killed Mikey? 2K7 Raph almost killed Leo.

Anyways, I disagree with the whole "his bros do nothing while he rules over them". Leo shoves back, true. But Don actually picks fights with Raph the most and mocks his intelligence (Leo is actually the one being the peacemaker). Mikey WANTS to aggravate him because he's a troll and doesn't mind Raph picking on him.

jajajaja

That's whats funny about forums, people telling you what to talk about and what NOT.

CyberCubed in one hell of a troll.

Nay, I dub this post "Word count: 387, period count: 3".